House of Assembly: Vol13 - WEDNESDAY 19 APRIL 1989

WEDNESDAY, 19 APRIL 1989 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY QUESTIONS

†Indicates translated version.

For written reply:

General Affairs:

Hostel accommodation 172. Mr K M ANDREW

asked the Minister of Education and Development Aid:

  1. (1) Whether any hostel accommodation is provided at any schools falling under the control of his Department; if not, why not; if so, how many (a) hostels and (b) places for pupils at such hostels are there at (i) high and (ii) primary schools in respect of each departmental region;
  2. (2) whether any hostel accommodation is planned at any schools falling under the control of his Department; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details?

B407E

The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND DEVELOPMENT AID:
  1. (1) Yes
    1. (i) Secondary Schools

(a)

(b)

Cape Region

1

800

Natal Region

2

1 366

Northern Transvaal Region

3

1 892

Orange Free State Region

0

0

Orange Vaal Region

0

0

Johannesburg Region

0

0

Highveld Region

0

0

  1. (ii) Primary Schools

(a)

(b)

Cape Region

1

50

Natal Region

0

0

Northern Transvaal Region

0

0

Orange Free State Region

0

0

Orange Vaal Region

0

0

Johannesburg Region

0

0

Highveld Region

0

0

Information as on 1 March 1988.

NOTE:

For the sake of completeness a list of non-departmental hostels is furnished as well:

NATAL

Control

Church

Community

Private

TOTAL

Number

11

1

1

13

Accommodation

2 061

69

38

2 168

N TVL

Number

2

2

Accommodation

78

78

JOHANNESBURG

Number

1

1

Accommodation

150

150

(2) Yes

Hostel accommodation is being planned for the Nancefield township at Messina in the Northern Transvaal Region.

Transportation of pupils: amount spent 198. Mr D S PIENAAR

asked the Minister of

Education and Development Aid:†

What total amount was spent by his Department in each province in 1986, 1987 and 1988, respectively, on the transportation of pupils from their parental homes to school and back?

B476E

The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND DEVELOPMENT AID:

1986 — None

1987 — None

1988 — R2 412 500.

The particulars requested of the amount spent per Province, unfortunately, is not readily available as the Department of Transport administers the claims of the various bus services which mostly operate countrywide, on behalf of the Department of Education and Training.

NOTE:

In reply to a similar question (Question 1444) during 1988 an amount of R1 930 000 was mentioned. The difference between this amount and the above-mentioned amount can be ascribed to the fact that late in 1988 the Department undertook to subsidise the pupils’ contributions for the period 13 January 1988 to 31 March 1988 as well.

Nurses: applications 208. Dr M S BARNARD

asked the Minister of National Health and Population Development:

  1. (1) How many (a) applications to train as nurses were (i) received and (ii) accepted from, and (b) vacancies existed at institutions for the training of nurses for, (aa) Whites, (bb) Coloureds, (cc) Indians and (dd) Blacks in 1987;
  2. (2) How many nurses of each of these race groups completed their training in that year?

B492E

The MINISTER OF NATIONAL HEALTH AND POPULATION DEVELOPMENT:

Information as provided by the provincial administrations.

(1) (a)

(i) Received

(aa)

Whites

2 745

(bb)

Coloureds

9 147

(cc)

Indians

722

(dd)

Blacks

25 414

Total

38 028

In addition to the total, 215 applications are not identifiable per population group,

(ii) Accepted

(aa)

Whites

1 449

(bb)

Coloureds

329

(cc)

Indians

97

(dd)

Blacks

844

Total

2 719

In addition to the total, 75 accepted applications are not identifiable per population group.

(b)

(aa) Whites

1 973

(bb)

Coloureds

169

(cc)

Indians

(dd)

Blacks

713

Total

2 855

In addition to the total, 468 vacancies are not identifiable per population group.

(2) (aa)

Whites

789

(bb)

Coloureds

38

(cc)

Indians

71

(dd)

Blacks

751

Total

1 649

In addition to the total, 263 nurses completed their training but cannot be identified per population group.

Remedial teachers 217. Mr R R HULLEY

asked the Minister of Education and Development Aid:

  1. (1) (a) How many qualified remedial teachers were employed at schools falling under the control of his Department, and (b) what was the (i) pupil: remedial teacher ratio (ii) school: remedial teacher ratio at such schools, in 1975 and 1988, respectively;
  2. (2) whether the (a) number and (b) ratio of remedial teachers varies from province to province; if so, (i) what are the differences and (ii) why;
  3. (3) whether there are any schools falling under the control of his Department which cater specifically for children requiring remedial teaching; if not, why not; is so, (a) which schools and (b) where are they situated;
  4. (4) whether the training and employment of remedial teachers for schools falling under the control of his Department is regarded as a top priority by his Department; if so, what steps are being taken in this respect; if not, (a) why not and (b) what is regarded as having higher priority?

B501E

The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND DEVELOPMENT AID:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) 123 in 1988. In 1975 there were no such teachers in the service of the Department. Sixty-nine of the aforementioned 123 teachers fill ordinary teaching posts at schools, while 54 render service as remedial advisers in the various regions. Each remedial adviser is responsible for a number of schools.
      1 500 panels were established for the identification and diagnosis of and rendering of assistance to pupils with learning and other problems. Remedial work forms an essential part of this assistance. Teachers on these panels receive in-service training.
      Owing to the system prevailing at this stage, it is not possible to supply a meaningful ratio of pupils: remedial teacher and of school: teacher.
    2. (b) (i) and (ii) lapse.
  2. (2) (a) and (b) Yes.
    1. (i) The Departement’s statistics are not available according to province and the information on the number of remedial advisers are furnished per region:

Northern Transvaal :

10

Highveld

9

Johannesburg :

5

Orange Vaal :

9

Orange Free State :

7

Natal

7

Cape Province :

7

The number of remedial teachers in ordinary teaching posts is as follows:

Northern Transvaal :

13

Highveld :

12

Johannesburg

5

Orange Vaal

11

Orange Free State :

8

Natal :

9

Cape Province :

11

(ii) The regions differ from one another in respect of the geographical area covered, number of schools in each region and number of pupils per region.

  1. (3) No. The Department follows the practice of offering remedial education within the ordinary classroom situation in ordinary schools. The rendering of assistance according to the system of panels for identification, diagnosis and assistance is gradually being extended to all public schools by means of in-service training programmes for selected teachers.
    1. (a) and (b) lapse.
  2. (4) No. Although it is a high priority.
    1. (a) The employment of remedial teachers is very important but is to the benefit of a relatively small percentage of the total school population.
    2. (b) An effective system whereby education is provided to mainstream pupils which represent approximately 95% of the total enrolment in schools.
Legal Aid Board: financial obligations 240. Mr D J DALLING

asked the Minister of Justice:

(a) What were the unpaid (i) financial and (ii) contingent financial obligations of the Legal Aid Board as at 31 January 1989 and (b) what cash funds did the Board have at its disposal as at that date?

B545E

The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:
  1. (a) (i) and (ii). A rough estimate done by the staff of the Legal Aid Board indicates that the Board may receive accounts for about R15,3 million in respect of live cases (some of them up to thirteen years old) over probably the next thirteen years. This is a contingent liability which becomes claimable in the future as and when these cases reach finality. Should these cases therefore not reach finality the contingent liability will be reduced accordingly.
  2. (b) On 31 January 1989 the Board had R7 589 365 at its disposal for the financial year ending 31 March 1989. This includes the balance of funds appropriated, interest received and legal costs recovered. The administration costs of the Board amount to approximately 14% of its annual budget. The remainder is available for legal aid to needy persons. The Board therefore has sufficient funds to fulfil its financial obligations for the previous financial year which ended on 31 March 1989.
    The Board’s financial obligations in respect of live cases referred to in (a), must not be assessed in direct relation to its cash funds referred to in (b), since the cash funds only had to cover the Board’s cash flow until 31 March 1989. The Board is funded annually in such a way so as to be able to fulfil its accumulated financial obligations in a specific year. This is apparent from the budget of R15 million which has been appropriated to the Board for the current financial year, in contrast with the budget of R12 million for the previous financial year. The Government has also approved that the following amounts at the least would be appropriated over the next three years: 1990/91 financial year R17 million; 1991/92 financial year R19 million and 1992/93 financial year R22 million.
    I may add that due to the nature of the Legal Aid Board’s activities it occurs that cases, especially civil cases, are only disposed of years after legal representatives are instructed and that legal costs become payable only then. It is also not possible to predict in which financial year a case will be disposed of and the legal costs become payable. It is therefore difficult to budget accurately. The effect of the suspension of services and the restriction of legal costs is likewise unpredictable. However in the past, whenever an unforeseen shortfall loomed in a particular financial year, the Government has always provided the necessary additional funds.
Legal Aid Board: services suspended 241. Mr D J DALLING

asked the Minister of Justice:

Whether any legal aid services were suspended by the Legal Aid Board in 1988; if so, (a) (i) which services and (ii) for what period and (b) why were these services suspended?

B546E

The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:

Yes.

  1. (a) (i) and (ii) For the period 1 January 1988 to 31 December 1988 legal aid was not granted in criminal and civil appeals and legal aid instructions were not given to advocates in lower courts in criminal as well as civil cases and to senior advocates in the Supreme Court in criminal as well as civil cases. For the period 1 January 1988 to 31 March 1988 legal aid was not granted in civil matters where the quantum of the claim was R1 200 or less for the period 1 April 1988 to 31 December 1988 in civil matters where the quantum of the claim was R2 000 or less. For the period 1 January 1988 to 30 November 1988 legal aid was not granted in industrial court matters. For the period of 1 January 1988 to 31 March 1988 legal costs in respect of divorce and related cases were restricted on the legal aid tariff to a maximum of R500; the legal costs in respect of the defence in criminal cases were restricted on the legal aid tariff to a maximum of R240 and R360 in district and regional courts, respectively; the legal costs in respect of applications or petitions after imposition of the death penalty were restricted on the legal aid tariff to a maximum of R360 per application or petition. For the period 1 April 1988 to 31 December 1988 legal costs in respect of divorce and related cases were restricted on the legal aid tariff to a maximum of R750 if one attorney was involved and R1 000 if two attorneys were involved: Provided that if permission was granted for the institution or defence of interlocutory actions, legal costs therefor could have been allowed in addition to the legal costs for the main action: Provided further that the legal costs for the interlocutory action were restricted on the legal aid tariff to a maximum of R500 if one attorney was involved and R750 if two attorneys were involved; the legal costs in respect of applications or petitions after imposition of the death penalty were restricted on the legal aid tariff to a maximum of R500 per application or petition. For the period 1 to 31 December 1988 legal costs in respect of industrial court matters were restricted as follows: For a consultation if section 43 proceedings were not instituted—the moneys as prescribed for a consultation in scale C of the tariff in the Magistrates’ Courts Rules, minus 20%; if section 43 proceedings were instituted—the moneys as prescribed in scale C of the tariff in the Magistrates’ Courts Rules, minus 20%, to a maximum of R500; if the legal aid mandate was extended to include section 46 proceedings—the moneys as prescribed in scale C of the tariff in the Magistrates’ Courts Rules, minus 20%, to a maximum of R250. The Director of the Legal Aid Board, however, retained the authority to grant legal aid to meritorious cases, to instruct advocates and senior advocates and to increase or remove restrictions.
  2. (b) In order not to spend more money than was available.
Citizen Force and Commando members called up 244. Mr R R HULLEY

asked the Minister of Defence:

  1. (1) What percentage of Citizen Force and Commando members called up to attend camps (a) applied for deferment and (b) (i) failed to report for service and (ii) requested exemption from rendering service in townships in 1988;
  2. (2) what total number of persons called up for military service in 1988 requested exemption on (a) religious and (b) other specified grounds?

B549E

The MINISTER OF DEFENCE:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) 24,63%
    2. (b)
      1. (i) 14,55%
      2. (ii) 0,38%
  2. (2)
    1. (a) 165

(b) Educational :

9

Essential Services :

682

Service in other Forces :

11

Occupational Circumstances :

74

Medical :

27

Other :

17

820

Public servants: pensionable service 249. Mr H H SCHWARZ

asked the Minister of National Health and Population Development:

  1. (1) (a) (i) How many public servants have bought back pensionable service since 31 March 1988 and (ii) on what basis and (b) in respect of what date is this information furnished;
  2. (2) how is the amount payable by public servants calculated;
  3. (3) (a) what total amount had been paid to the Government Service Pension Fund by (i) public servants and (ii) the State, and (b) how much was owed to the Fund by (i) public servants, (ii) former public servants who are currently on pension and (iii) the State, as at the latest specified date for which information is available?

B554E

The MINISTER OF NATIONAL HEALTH AND POPULATION DEVELOPMENT:
  1. (1)
    1. (a)
      1. (i) 1 029
      2. (ii)
        • — Former service: 947 cases on basis of refunding benefit received together with compound interest at 5,5 per cent per annum.
        • — Other periods: 82 cases in terms of formula n X S X F(x) in which —
        • “n” — represents the period purchased
        • “S” — represents the annual salary on date of application
        • “F(x)” — represent an actuarial factor (as published in Government Notices No R2121 and No R2123 of 21 September 1987 and No R416 and No R418 dated 11 March 1988 respective), together with compound interest (currently) at 12 per cent per annum from date payable up to date of payment.
    2. (b) 17 March 1989;
  2. (2) See (1) (a) (ii);
  3. (3)
    1. (a)
      1. (i) During period 31 March 1988 to 28 February 1989: R59 146 546,
      2. (ii) nil, members are responsible for the full settlement,
    2. (b)
      1. (i) R208 117 203 as at 17 March 1989 (recovered by way of monthly instalment or in full on retirement),
      2. (ii) none. Recovered in full on retirement,
      3. (iii) nil, see (3) (a) (ii).
South African Development Trust Account : money spent 251. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Education and Development Aid:

  1. (a) What total amount was spent on projects in each independent Black state from the South African Development Trust Account in the 1988-89 financial year and (b) on what projects was this money spent?

B556E

The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND DEVELOPMENT AID:

(a) Total amount spent:

R23 672 186

1.

Bophuthatswana

3 359 111

2.

Ciskei

17 863 418

3.

Transkei

2 449 657

4.

Venda

None

(b) Projects on which this money was spent:

A. BOPHUTHATSWANA

1. Villages/Towns

R2 276 871

1.1 Atamalang

R516

a. Housing

11

b. Office Accommodation

484

c. Schools

11

d. Admin costs

10

1.2 Itsoseng

R2 153 633

a. Water

114 423

b. Sanitation

167 894

c. Electricity

22 231

d. Machinery

95 434

e. Housing

1 040 802

f. Public Buildings

150 794

g. Office accommodation

13 080

h. Maintenance

29 708

i. Schools

470 418

j. Admin costs

48 849

1.3 Pampierstad

R122 722

a. Roads

38 409

b. Public Buildings

84 313

2. Physical infrastructure

R271 240

a. Road 114 Roodewal & Teerputfontein

31 943

b. Hebron/Jericho road over Nietgedacht

132 671

c. Hartbeesfontein main water supply

106 626

3. Independence projects

R811 000

a. Itsoseng community hall

451 000

b. Pampierstad community hall

360 000

R 3 359 111

B. CISKEI

1. Villages/Towns

R8 981 010

1.1 Mdantsane

R8 043 465

a. Roads

3 837 465

b. Water

1 273 556

c. Sanitation

260 276

d. Electricity

656 101

e. Machinery & Plant

136 409

f. Housing

457 709

g. Public Buildings

680 764

h. Sport facilities

554 664

i. Schools

186 521

1.2 Sada/Whittlesea

R937 545

a. Roads

365 951

b. Sanitation

6 143

c. Electricity

224 498

d. Maintenance

12 385

e. Schools

299 898

f. Admin costs

28 670

2.

Physical infrastructure

2.1 Fees and Disbursements for:

R5 467 369

a. Design Ntabetemba dam & irrigation scheme

2 159

b. Oxton irrigation scheme

310

c. Northern Ciskei irrigation

107 183

Ntabetemba settlements Phase I water supply

6 428

Ntabetemba Zwelindinga project management

63 552

f. Hewu district roads & stormwater drainage

101 572

g. Ntabetemba water supply

94 913

h. Hewu roads & stormwater drainage

299 364

i. Ntabetemba settlement Phase II design of water supply

8 200

j. Glenmore development of residential & agricultural plots

17 317

k. Balfour infrastructure

29 755

1. Drilling and grouting at Bushmankrantz dam

19 727

m. Needs Camp temporary water supply

189

n. Needs Camp/Good Hope water supply

19 503

o. Ntabetemba water supply

780 423

p. Border Black areas

20 929

q. Proposed Binfield Park dam mass water supply

14 137

2.2 Construction of:

a. Hewu district 174 km gravel roads

2 299 173

b. Hewu services water supply

1 427 667

c. Glenmore electrical equipment section 2

18 992

d. Binfield Parkdam 4,5 ml water treatment 6 ml reservoir

43 113

e. Binfield Park/Alice pipeline

92 763

3. Independence projects

3 415 039

291 396

a. Civic square offices

b. Health & Agriculture building

2 476 375

c. Works & Transport building

235 704

d. Middeldrift prison

144 887

e. Radio Ciskei

803

f. Garage/Service station

155 874

g. Directors-General furniture

110 000

R17 863 418

C.

TRANSKEI

1.

Villages/Towns

1.1 Ezibeleni

2 449 657

2 449 657

a. Roads

129 826

b. Water

31 265

c. Sanitation

31 763

d. Electricity

874 738

e.

Housing

1 278 543

f.

Maintenance

13 916

g.

Schools

89 606

R2 449 657

D. VENDA

None.

Department of Education and Training: investigations into irregularities 265. Mr D S PIENAAR

asked the Minister of Education and Development Aid:†

  1. (1) (a) What investigations have been made into alleged irregularities in the Department of Education and Training since 1 July 1987, (b) by whom was each of these investigations made and (c) what, during the period 1 July 1987 up to the latest specified date for which information is available, was the cost to the State of each such investigation;
  2. (2) whether any outside consultants have been appointed to make further investigations into and to make evaluations regarding certain alleged irregularities that have come to light as a result of the above-mentioned investigations; if so, what are the relevant details?

B577E

The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND DEVELOPMENT AID:
  1. (1)
    1. (a)
      1. (i) Investigation by the Advocate-General into the purchasing of an Ivis interactive video system by the Department of Education and Training.
      2. (ii) Inquiry into the regularity or otherwise of the acquisition, by the Department of Education and Training, of an Ivis interactive video system and of any other spending of state funds, by that Department, which comes to the attention of the Commission of Inquiry and which should according to the commission’s judgement be investigated.
      3. (iii) Investigation into alleged irregularities in connection with the procurement of sites and facilities from the private sector for the running of courses for Black youths by the Department of Education and Training.
    2. (b)
      1. (i) The Advocate-General.
      2. (ii) Commission of Inquiry appointed by the State President.
      3. (iii) Mr S J P du Plessis.
    3. (c)
      1. (i) An amount of R8 510 was paid to the advocate who represented the Department. The cost of the investigation was paid out of the budget of the Advocate-General. This cost is not known.
      2. (ii) R44 217,58 (as on 7 April 1989).
      3. (iii) R3 197 (as on 7 april 1989).
  2. (2) No.
SADF: suicide attempts 279. Mr R R HULLEY

asked the Minister of Defence:

Whether any (a) national servicemen, (b) members of the Permanent Force and (c) members of the Citizen Force/Commandos (i) attempted to commit and (ii) committed suicide in 1988; if so, (aa) how many in each case and (bb) what means did each such person employ?

B599E

The MINISTER OF DEFENCE:

(a) National Servicemen

(i)

(aa)

294

11

(bb)

Overdose

208

Shot

6

Slashed wrists

65

Hanged

3

Shot

14

Overdose

2

Hanged

3

Drank poison

3

Gassed

2

(b) Permanent Force

(i)

(ii)

(aa) 44

4

(bb) Overdose

29

Shot

2

Slashed wrists

6

Overdose

2

Shot

4

Hanged

2

Drank poison

2

Gassed

1

(c) Citizen Force/Commandos

(i)

(ii)

(aa) 6

6

(bb) Overdose

6

Overdose

3

Shot

2

Gassed

1

Military hospitals: bed-occupancy rate 280. Mr R R HULLEY

asked the Minister of Defence:

  1. (1) What was the average bed-occupancy rate in military hospitals in 1988;
  2. (2) whether any notifiable diseases were diagnosed at military hospitals in that year; if so, how many cases in respect of each specified disease?

B600E

The MINISTER OF DEFENCE:
  1. (1) 70,7%.
  2. (2) Yes, in 1, 2 and 3 Military Hospitals and various sickbays, as follows:

Bilhazia :

1

Hepatitis :

129

Malaria :

425

Measles :

11

Meningitis :

21

Tuberculosis :

6

Typhoid :

6

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES QUESTIONS

†Indicates translated version.

For oral reply:

General Affairs:

Question transferred from Wednesday,12 April 1989:

National servicemen: Black woman assaulted *1. Mr J A RABIE

asked the Minister of Defence:†

  1. (1) Whether, with reference to information furnished to the South African Defence Force for the purpose of the Minister’s reply, a national serviceman who allegedly assaulted a Black woman at Nelspruit in or about December 1988 was tried by a court martial; if so, (a) what are the names of the persons concerned, (b) what are the details of the (i) incident and (ii) court case and (c) why did the national serviceman concerned not appear in an ordinary court;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?

C57E

†The DEPUTY MINISTER OF DEFENCE:
  1. (1) No, the National Serviceman was not tried by a Court Martial for the incident the Honourable Member referred to, but by a Summary Trial for drunkeness and conduct to the prejudice of Military Discipline. The alleged assault was investigated by the SA Police with the purpose of prosecuting the member in an ordinary court. The Black woman, however, died and on completion of the Inquest, the Attorney General will decide on further steps to be taken.
  2. (2) No.
†Mr P A C HENDRICKSE:

Mr Chairman, on a point of order: May I draw your attention to the fact that the hon member for Reigerpark is not present in the House?

†The CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE:

Order! Just the other day I made a request that hon members must be present when their questions are answered. It takes time, the hon Ministers must run from one House to the other and that costs money. Hon members must be more responsible. I appreciate the fact that the hon member for Addo drew my attention to it.

New questions:

Workers: organize into trade unions *1. Mr J A RABIE

asked the Minister of Manpower:†

  1. (1) Whether his Department has reached any decision on whether farm workers, domestic servants and workers in the public sector may organize themselves into trade unions by way of labour legislation; if not, why not; if so, (a) what decision has been reached and (b) when;
  2. (2) whether he intends introducing legislation in this regard; if so, (a) when and (b) who was consulted when this legislation was drafted;
  3. (3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?

C59E

The MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT AFFAIRS AND OF WATER AFFAIRS (for The Acting Minister of Manpower):
  1. (1) No, because consultations with organized agriculture and other interested parties have as yet not been concluded. The Labour Relations Act, 1956, already recognises trade unions consisting exclusively of employees of the State, but the conciliation and some other provisions of the Act do not apply to such unions.
    1. (a) and (b) Fall away.
  2. (2) The introduction of legislation will be considered once consultations have been concluded.
    1. (a) and (b) Fall away.
  3. (3) No.
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF POPULATION DEVELOPMENT:

Mr Chairman, will the hon the Minister take a supplementary question?

The MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT AFFAIRS AND OF WATER AFFAIRS:

Mr Chairman, seeing that this is not my portfolio I would rather have the hon the Deputy Minister put it on the Order Paper.

Certain person: contravention of Group Areas Act *2. Mr J A RABIE

asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:!

  1. (1) Whether he has received any complaints that a certain person, whose name has been furnished to the Minister’s Department for the purpose of his reply, has allegedly contravened the Group Areas Act by living at 62 St Jefferies Street, Mayfair West; if so, (a) what is the name of the person concerned, (b) from whom have these complaints been received and (c) what action has been taken as a result of the complaints;
  2. (2) whether the person or persons from whom the above complaints were received have lodged similar complaints against other persons; if so, what are the relevant details;
  3. (3) whether alternative accommodation has been arranged for the persons against whom these complaints were lodged; if not, why not; if so, where, in each case?

C60E

†The DEPUTY MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:
  1. (1) No, no record of this specific case can be traced. When such complaints are received, the complainants are referred to the SA Police.
  2. (2) and (3) Fall away.
Chatty, PE: post office *3. Mr W J DIETRICH

asked the Minister of Communications:

  1. (1) Whether, since his reply to Question No 4 on 13 April 1988, any progress has been made in the provision of a post office in Chatty, Port Elizabeth; if not, why not; if so, (a) what progress has been made to date and (b) when is it anticipated that building operations will be completed;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?

C67E

The CHAIRMAN OF THE MINISTER’S COUNCIL (for The Minister of Communications):
  1. (1) No, the procurement of the site is being delayed due to a dispute on a condition in the Title Deed according to which the State has the right of resumption without payment of compensation. The Town Council of Port Elizabeth who is the present owner of the property, however, repudiates this ruling in the light thereof that the State has already exercised its right of resumption on another portion of the same property. The matter has been referred to the Department of Public Works and Land Affairs and the State Attorney for a ruling and the outcome is expected shortly.
    1. (a) falls away, and
    2. (b) the planning processes will be accelerated once the site aspect has been cleared. It is still expected that the building operations will be completed during December 1990;
  2. (2) no.
Grabouw: action against certain person *4. Mr A P ADRIAANSE

asked the Minister of Environment Affairs:†

  1. (1) Whether, in the light of information furnished to the Minister’s Department for the purpose of his reply, he intends taking any action against a certain official of his Department employed at Grabouw; if not, why not; if so, (a) what action, (b) when and (c) what are the relevant details in this connection;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?

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†The MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT AFFAIRS:
  1. (1) No. As the honourable Member is aware, I invited him on 10 March 1989 in writing to discuss the alleged problem in the first instance with the Regional Director of the Forest Region Western Cape. According to my information he has not done so yet. The allegations are, therefore, still unfounded and do not warrant a departmental investigation or action against the official involved at this stage.
    1. (a), (b) and (c) Fall away.
  2. (2) No.
†Mr P A C HENDRICKSE:

Mr Chairman, arising out of the hon the Minister’s reply, I should like to say we do not know what information the hon the Minister has received. Could he perhaps give it to us or tell us what it’s all about?

†The MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT AFFAIRS:

Mr Chairman, I assume that I may not furnish the information without the permission of the hon member who has put the question.

†The CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE:

Order! Unfortunately the time allocated for questions has now expired. [Interjections.]