House of Assembly: Vol7 - WEDNESDAY 4 MAY 1988

WEDNESDAY, 4 MAY 1988 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY

†Indicates translated version.

For written reply:

General Affairs:

East London: hunger strike in prison 434. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Justice:

  1. (1) Whether any detainees and/or prisoners in the East London Prison went on a hunger strike in January 1988; if so, (a) how many detainees and/or prisoners were involved and (b) what (i) was the duration of and (ii) were the reasons for the hunger strike;
  2. (2) whether any complaints have been received by the East London Prison authorities concerning the (a) food and (b) medical care given to detainees and prisoners; if so, (i) when were these complaints received, (ii) what was the nature of the complaints in each case and (iii) what action was taken in response to them;
  3. (3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:

(1) (a) and (b) (i) and (ii)

Detainees in terms of the Emergency Regulations

No.

However, thirty-one detainees in terms of the Emergency Regulations refused the meals served to them from lunch on 25 January 1988. Five of the thirty-one detainees took dinner on 27 January 1988. Another detainee refused his meals from breakfast on 28 January 1988. The five who took dinner on 27 January again refused breakfast on 28 January 1988. All the detainees took breakfast on 29 January 1988 and thereafter continued taking their meals regularly. The detainees refused to give a reason for their actions during this time and stated that they are not on a hunger strike.

Sentenced prisoners and prisoners awaiting trial

Yes.

A sentenced prisoner at East London Prison refused the meals served to him from 5 January 1988 up to and including lunch on 8 January 1988. The reason he gave for his hunger strike was that the doctor had not prescribed the “right” medical treatment for his complaints. However, he thereafter consulted two other doctors on five occasions.

(2) Yes.

In terms of Prisons Regulation 103 the Head of a Prison shall see every prisoner daily, investigate every complaint and request submitted by a prisoner and, as far as possible, dispose thereof. All these complaints and the manner of disposal are recorded and any complaint and request which cannot be disposed of by the Head of the Prison is submitted to the Commanding Officer without delay for his attention and disposal.

Furthermore, Judges of the Supreme Court also visit prisons, and complaints and requests may also be submitted on these occasions.

The honourable member did not indicate for which period the information is required, but for the purpose of answering the question, complaints regarding medical care/food submitted during January 1988 by an average of 1 183 prisoners and 52 detainees incarcerated in the East London Prison during that month, are furnished.

Complaints by sentenced prisoners and prisoners who were awaiting trial:

None.

Complaints by detainees in terms of Section 29 of Act 74/1982

None.

Complaints by detainees in terms of the Emergency Regulations 88.01.20

COMPLAINT: A detainee alleged that the bread was stale.

DISPOSAL: The Head and the Assistant Head of the Prison investigated the matter personally and found the complaint to be without any substance. No other prisoner or detainee had complaints in this regard. The detainees in terms of the Emergency Regulations however also submitted a list of complaints to the Head of the Prison on 7 January 1988. The nature and extent of the complaints were however vague and contained generalisations. The Head of the Prison requested the detainees to lay their complaints individually in order that the complaints could be recorded and attended to thoroughly. No complaints were received from individuals in this regard.

It should also be mentioned that the District Surgeon inspects prepared and raw rations as well as the kitchen utensils on a regular basis.

(3) No.

Pregnant women detained 467. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Justice:

  1. (1) Whether any women approaching fullterm pregnancy were being detained in prisons in terms of (a) emergency regulations and (b) the Internal Security Act, No 74 of 1982, as at the latest specified date for which information is available ; if so, (i) how many and (ii) what arangements have been made to care for these women (aa) during their pregnancy and (bb) when their babies are delivered;
  2. (2) how many babies were bom to women detained in terms of emergency regulations and the Internal Security Act during the latest specified 12-month period for which information is available?
The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:
  1. (1) (a) and (b)
    None on 31 December 1987
    1. (i), (ii), (aa) and (bb) Fall away.
      In general it can, however, be mentioned that the South African Prisons Service places a high premium on the medical treatment of all persons entrusted to its care. In this regard the nursing staff of the Prisons Service are guided by the medical officer (district surgeon) and his prescriptions and orders are carried out carefully. This includes general treatment which can be provided in the prison and prison hospitals, hospitalizing in private or provincial hospitals and treatment by specialists.
      This approach also applies to pregnant women and provide for their specific needs.
  2. (2) Regarding detainees in prisons under the auspices of the SA Prisons Service, one baby was born during the period 1 January 1987 to 31 December 1987 in a hospital outside a prison to which the mother was referred by a medical practitioner for the birth. The mother was a detainee in terms of the emergency regulations.
    In terms of Prisons Regulation 94, a female prisoner may be permitted to have her baby with her in prison during the period of lactation and for such further period as may be necessary, subject to such conditions as are prescribed.
    The necessary clothing, food, vaccinations and medical treatment in general are provided by the State.
    The eventual removal of the baby is, furthermore, subject to a certificate by a medical practitioner that the child, if separated from the mother, will not suffer mentally or physically.
    The honourable member is also referred to my reply to question number 344 on 18 March 1988.
Prisoners: beds/sisal/felt mats issued 870. Mr J VAN ECK

asked the Minister of Justice:

With reference to his reply to Question No 22 on 1 March 1988, how many White, Coloured and African prisoners, respectively, had been issued with (a) beds and (b) (i) sisal and/or (ii) felt mats in the (aa) Pollsmoor, (bb) Victor Verster, (cc) Modderbee and (dd) Middelburg Prison as at 1 January 1988 or the latest specified date for which information is available?

The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:

For the information of the Honourable Member it must be mentioned that:

  • — The information requested is not kept at a central point. Consequently a special survey had to be done. Such surveys are expensive and manpower intensive.
  • — It is not clear as to which specific prisons the Honourable Member requires information. For the sake of completeness the Heads of all the prisons in the Pollsmoor, Victor Verster and Modderbee Prison Commands as well as the Heads of the Middelburg Prison in the Cape Province and the Middelburg Prison in Transvaal, were approached for the information in question.

As mentioned in my reply to Oral Question No 22 on 1 March 1988, it has already been accepted as policy that each prisoner should be provided with a bed and a mattress. However, financial and accommodation realities determine the tempo at which the policy can be implemented. At present 45 791 beds are already in use country-wide.

Details as at 15 March 1988.

(a)

(b) Sleeping Mats (2 or more per prisoner)

Beds with mattresses and bedding

Matresses with bedding

(i) Sisal mats with bedding

(ii) Felt mats with bedding

Combined sisal and felt mats with bedding

(aa) Prisons at Pollsmoor

Whites

538

23

Coloureds

787

85

3 394

Blacks

128

54

933

Total

1 453

139

23

4 327

Prisons at Victor Verster

Whites

Coloureds

646

45

674

614

Blacks

33

9

99

8

Total

679

54

773

622

Modderbee Prison

Whites

Coloureds

22

181

Blacks

119

1

4 000

Total

141

1

4 181

Middelburg Prison (Cape)

Whites

5

Coloureds

8

135

Blacks

1

2

137

Total

6

10

272

Middelburg Prison (Tvl)

Whites

9

Coloureds

5

Blacks

457

Total

9

462

The above-mentioned information is not representative of the situation in all 241 prisons in the Republic of South Africa. Prison hospitals were equipped with beds as first priority. All prisoners receive clean and adequate bedding which can be increased or decreased according to prevailing weather conditions.

Persons employed at each post level of rank structure 971. Mr M J ELLIS

asked the Minister of Agriculture:

How many (a) Black, (b) Coloured, (c) White and (d) Indian persons were employed by his Department at each post level of the approved rank structure as at the latest specified date for which information is available?

The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE:

The following particulars are furnished as on 31 March 1988:

(a)

(b)

(c)

(d)

Director-General

1

Deputy-Director-General

1

Chief Director

4

Director

10

Deputy Director

20

Assistant Director

59

General Assistant I

251

39

General Assistant II

407

60

21

General Assistant III

94

23

150

7

Artisan

1

Chief Messenger

1

Assistant Soil Protection Officer

1

Senior Soil Protection Officer

1

Pupil Soil Protection Inspector

8

Soil Protection Inspector

2

Senior Soil Protection Inspector

2

Principal Soil Protection Inspector

3

Chief Soil Protection Inspector

7

Control Soil Protection Inspector

1

Data Typist

10

Chief: Data Capturing

1

Driver

1

1

Assistant Economist (Agriculture)

28

Economist (Agriculture)

12

Photo Copy Machine Operator

1

1

Helicopter Pilot

1

Quarantine Officer

1

Senior Quarantine Officer

1

Chief Quarantine Officer

1

Laboratory Assistant

5

71

4

Agricultural Attaché

14

Agricultural Administration Clerk

16

Senior Agricultural Administration Clerk

29

Chief Agricultural Administration Clerk

7

Assistant Agricultural Administration Officer

5

Agricultural Administration Officer

8

Senior Agricultural Administration Officer

15

Assistant Agricultural Produce Standards Officer

6

Agricultural Standards Officer

3

Senior Agricultural Standards Officer

6

Assistant Liquor Quality Officer

1

Senior Liquor Quality Technician

3

First Liquor Quality Technician

2

Principal Liquor Quality Technician

1

Pupil Agricultural Standards Technician

25

Agricultural Standards Technician

10

Senior Agricultural Standards Technician

27

Principal Agricultural Standards Technician

99

Chief Agricultural Standards Technician

38

Control Agricultural Standards Technician

6

Principal Control Agricultural Standards Technician

2

Agricultural Produce Analysis Technician

3

Senior Agricultural Produce Analysis Technician

2

Agricultural Legislation Inspector

2

Senior Agricultural Legislation Inspector

6

Principal Agricultural Legislationinspector

4

Chief Agricultural Legislation Inspector

3

Control Agricultural Legislation Inspector

1

Storekeeper

1

Senior Storekeeper

1

Chief Storekeeper

1

Media Officer

2

Senior Media Officer

1

Training Officer

1

Weed Inspector

12

Assistant Personnel Officer

3

Personnel Officer

4

Senior Personnel Officer

4

Personnel Clerk

9

Senior Personnel Clerk

20

Chief Personnel Clerk

4

Personal Secretary

16

Personal Secretary (DG)

1

Farm Manager

1

Principal Farm Manager

2

Control Farm Manager

1

Farm Foreman

2

Assistant Plant and Seed Officer

7

Plant and Seed Officer

1

Senior Plant and Seed Officer

5

Pupil Plant and Seed Inspector

5

Plant and Seed Inspector

19

Senior Plant and Seed Inspector

5

Principal Plant and Seed Inspector

35

Chief Plant and Seed Inspector

14

Control Plant and Seed Inspector

3

Produce Examiner

11

Programmer

1

Senior Programmer

2

Chief Programmer

1

Control Programmer

1

Registration Clerk

15

Senior Registration Clerk

8

Chief Registration Clerk

3

Legal Officer

4

Security Administration Officer

2

Chief Security Administration Officer

1

Security Officer

10

Security Guard

2

Senior Security Guard

2

State Veterinarian

112

Assistant State Accountant

1

State Accountant

6

Senior State Accountant

3

Telephonist

7

Chief Telephonist

1

Typist (Ministerial)

1

Typist

51

Chief Typist

1

Stock Inspector/Senior Stock Inspector

365

Principal Stock Inspector

14

Chief Stock Inspector

1

Accounting Clerk

18

Senior Accounting Clerk

6

Chief Accounting Clerk

2

Pupil Veterinary Technician

5

Veterinary Technician

9

Senior Veterinary Technician

8

Principal Veterinary Technician

7

Control Veterinary Technician

1

Chief Veterinary Technician

24

Pupil Meat Examiner

1

9

Meat Inspector

7

4

12

10

Principal Meat Inspector

37

11

Chief Meat Inspector

45

2

Control Meat Inspector

5

Pupil Meat Inspector

3

Meat Examiner

74

24

3

3

Foreman: General Gr II

6

Provisioning Administration Clerk

1

45

Senior Provisioning Administration Clerk

136

Chief Provisioning Administration Clerk

6

Assistant Provisioning Administration Officer

2

Provisioning Administration Officer

10

Senior Provisioning Administration Officer

8

Chief Work Study Officer

2

Wine Controller

2

Senior Wine Controller

1

Principal Wine Controller

4

Chief Wine Controller

6

Conservation of Agricultural Resources Act: persons prosecuted 988. Mr R W HARDINGHAM

asked the Minister of Agriculture:

Whether any persons were prosecuted for contravening the provisions of the Conservation of Agricultural Resources Act, No 43 of 1983, during the latest specified period of 12 months for which figures are available; if so, (a) how many and (b) (i) for what contraventions and (ii) what were the fines in each case?

The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE:

Yes;

(a) 17 persons were charged during the 12 months ending 31 March 1988.

(b) (i)

(ii)

Overgrazing of veld (1) Keeping of too many stock (1)

Found not guilty R1 000 fine or 6 months’ imprisonment

Grazing of burnt veld (2)

R100 admission of guilt

Spreading of weeds (1)

Found not guilty

Erosion on lands (1)

Found not guilty

Erosion on lands (1)

Found guilty, warned and discharged

Ploughing of virgin soil (1)

Found not guilty

Ploughing of virgin soil (1)

R3 000 fine, of which R2 500 was suspended

Ploughing of virgin soil (2)

R500 fine or 3 months’ imprisonment, suspended

Ploughing of virgin soil (1)

R400 fine or 2 months’ imprisonment, suspended

Ploughing of virgin soil (1)

R100 admission of guilt

Ploughing of virgin soil (1)

R300 fine or 3 months’ imprisonment, suspended

Ploughing of virgin soil (3)

R200 fine or 2 months’ imprisonment, suspended.

Own Affairs:

Housing units built for Whites 5. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Local Government, Housing and Works:

  1. (1) (a) How many housing units for White occupation were built in each specified area in the Republic in 1987 and (b) what is the number to be built for members of this population group in 1988;
  2. (2) whether, with reference to his reply to Question No 38 on 10 April 1986, the survey of the shortage in housing has been completed; if not, (a) why not and (b) when will it be completed; if so, (i) what was the scope of the survey and (ii) what were the findings?
The MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND HOUSING:

(1) (a)

Number of Houses

Welfare Housing Number of Persons

Cape Metropolitan area

0

255

Durban Metropolitan area

58

128

Pietermaritzburg

0

44

Pretoria Metropolitan area

0

27

Port Elizabeth Metropolitan area

0

78

East London

0

14

Bloemfontein

10

0

Witwatersrand Metropolitan area

22

598

(b) The honourable member is referred to my reply to question 7.

  1. (2) No.
    1. (a) and (b) The survey of housing needs is not a once-only survey which will be completed on a certain date, but as an ongoing process in order to maintain a reliable concept of housing shortages on a continuous basis.

According to the computerised waiting-list programme, 31 871 cases in respect of Whites who has some kind of housing need, were registered up to 22 April 1988, of which the particulars are as follows:

Married persons

10 521

Divorced persons

3 187

Widows or widowers

14 047

Single persons

2 938

Persons of which marital status and income is uncertain

1 178

Housing units: construction 7. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Local Government, Housing and Works:

Whether his Department intends constructing any housing units in the Republic in 1988; if not, why not; if so, (a) how many units in each case and (b) in which centres will they be constructed?

The MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND HOUSING:

No;

(a) and (b) The Department of Local Government, Housing and Works finances the construction of dwellings by local authorities, housing utility companies and welfare organisations from the Development and Housing Fund. The information indicated below reflects the housing in respect of projects at present under construction in 1988 or which will be constructed in 1988:

Region

Number of Houses

Welfare Housing Number of Persons

Pretoria

Breyton

4

Coligny

43

Ermelo

33

Pietersburg

50

40

Potchefstroom

69

Klerksdorp

36

Orkney

12

Lichtenburg

5

Ottosdal

46

Phalaborwa

18

Pretoria

355

Rustenburg

38

Sannieshof

2

Verwoerdburg

68

Wolmaransstad

42

Johannesburg

Alberton

30

Benoni

120

Boksburg

44

Brakpan

15

Carletonville

20

Edenvale

24

Germiston

64

Kempton Park

30

Johannesburg

98

745

Krugersdorp

60

Randburg

110

Randfontein

88

Roodepoort

52

218

Vereeniging

38

Durban

Amanzimtoti

44

Durban

198

Howick

40

Kingsborough

105

8

Pietermaritzburg

55

Pinetown

8

Port Shepstone

62

Queensburgh

60

Richmond

20

Vryheid

2

Westville

24

Port Elizabeth

Aliwal North

35

Beacon Bay

50

Despatch

13

Fort Beaufort

24

Joubertina

21

Kirkwood

14

Komga

12

East London

106

Port Elizabeth

119

Queenstown

38

Uitenhage

20

Cape Town

Bellville

40

Caledon

10

Citrusdal

20

Durbanville

120

George

35

Goodwood

92

Hartenbos

20

Hermanus

2

Cape Town

60

272

Knysna

35

Kraaifontein

22

Malmesbury

113

Montagu

32

Mossel Bay

24

Napier

25

Nieuwoudtville

14

Paarl

110

Prins Albert

11

Riversdal

20

Springbok

18

Swellendam

4

Fish Hoek

70

Vredenburg/

Saldanha

90

Wellington

72

Wolseley

56

Worcester

19

Kimberley

Kimberley

30

Postmasburg

18

Bloemfontein

Bloemfontein

92

Bultfontein

8

Dealesville

9

Harrismith

16

Kroonstad

3

Ladybrand

3

Parys

6

Sasolburg

80

Villiers

4

Warden

7

Welkom

30

40

Welfare housing/dwelling units in RSA 39. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Local Government, Housing and Works:

Whether, with reference to his reply to Question No 3 on 19 August 1987, his Department intends building any (a) welfare housing and (b) dwelling units in the Republic in 1988; if not, why not; if so, (i) how many units in each case and (ii) in which centres will they be constructed?

The MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND HOUSING:

(a) and (b) No; but the honourable member is kindly referred to my reply to Question 7.

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

†Indicates translated version.

For oral reply:

General Affairs:

State President:

Appointment of Prime Minister: consideration of Minister of colour *1. Mr P A C HENDRICKSE

asked the State President:

  1. (1) Whether, with reference to his recently announced proposals for constitutional reform, any consideration has been or will be given to appointing a Minister of colour as Prime Minister;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
†The DEPUTY MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING (for the State President):

(1) and (2)

On 21 April 1988,1 said the following about the matter in the House of Assembly:

“The State President should mainly concern himself with matters such as for example population relations, macro-economic policy and the determination of financial priorities, security and foreign affairs, as well as ceremonial occasions and functions which developed by convention. The day to day administration under Ministers should then rather continue under the chairmanship of a Prime Minister appointed by the State President.”

This is naturally a matter that requires further consideration. If the proposal is accepted, the State President will deal with the matter at that stage. The person for such an appointment will necessarily be considered on the basis of his expertise with regard to administration.

In the meantime the status quo is maintained.

Ministers:

Former director-general of SABC: resignation *1. Mr P A C HENDRICKSE

asked the Minister of Information, Broadcasting Services and the Film Industry:

  1. (1) Whether he was consulted beforehand in connection with the resignation of the former director-general of the SABC; if not, why not; if so, (a) when, (b) what was the purport of these consultations and (c) what action did he take in consequence of these consultations;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
†The MINISTER OF INFORMATION, BROADCASTING SERVICES AND THE FILM INDUSTRY:
  1. (1) No.
    1. (a) to (c) Fall away.
  2. (2) In order to avoid any misunderstanding regarding the reply given above I want to state clearly that I had discussions with the Chairman of the Board, as well as with the members of the relevant committee of the Board, regarding the circumstances which lead to the resignation of the former director-general.
    However as the matter falls within the jurisdiction of the Board and outside the jurisdiction of the Minister, these discussions cannot be described as “consultation”.
Vereeniging: Sharpville mother arrested for breast-feeding in public *2. Mr W J DIETRICH

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether, with reference to information furnished to the South African Police for the purpose of the Minister’s reply, a Sharpeville mother was arrested at the Vereeniging charge office for breast-feeding her baby in public early in November 1987; if so, (a) in terms of what statutory provisions, (b) what were the circumstances surrounding the incident and (c) what is her name;
  2. (2) whether any action has been taken against the policeman concerned; if not, why not; if so (a) what action and (b) when;
  3. (3) whether any steps have been taken to prevent further arrests for offences of this nature; if not, why not; if so, (a) what steps and (b) when?
The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

(1) to (3)

I wish to point out to the honourable member that shortly after this unfortunate and isolated incident had taken place, the matter was personally dealt with by the Commissioner of the South African Police. He severely reprimanded the member of the Force concerned and immediately issued appropriate instructions to prevent a recurrence of similar incidents. Consequently it will serve no purpose to publicly speculate further about the matter and I regard the matter as closed.

Mr W J DIETRICH:

Mr Chairman, arising from the hon the Minister’s reply, may I ask him what the chances are of this law in particular, and other laws infringing upon the traditional rights of people, being amended or repealed.

*The MINISTER:

Mr Chairman, as I have indicated we regard this as an isolated incident. The Commissioner of Police has dealt with this personally and held a discussion with the policeman concerned, after which instructions were issued in which members of the Force were told that they must act carefully regarding such sensitive matters. I think that all our people are undergoing a process of education in this respect and that it will eventually be successful.

Own Affairs:

Questions standing over from Wednesday, 30 March 1988:

Audrey Renecke Hall, West End, Port Elizabeth: meeting by extra-school sports organization *2. Mr W J DIETRICH

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

  1. (1) Whether his Department received a report on a meeting held at the Audrey Renecke Hall in West End, Port Elizabeth, on or about 2 November 1987 by an extra-school sports organization, the name of which has been furnished to the Minister’s Department for the purpose of his reply; if not, why not; if so, what is the (a) purport of this report and (b) name of the organization concerned;
  2. (2) whether any pamphlets to advertise this meeting were distributed by teachers during school hours; if so, (a) why and (b) what are the names of the (i) schools and (ii) teachers involved;
  3. (3) whether these teachers (a) sought and (b) obtained the permission of their school principals; if not, why not;
  4. (4) whether the teachers concerned were reported to the inspectorate; if not, why not; if so, (a) when and (b) with what result;
  5. (5) whether the school principals concerned have been approached for comment; if not, why not; if so, (a) when, (b) in what manner and (c) with what result;
  6. (6) whether he will make a statement on his Department’s policy in this regard?
The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (1), (2), (3) (4) and (5)
    A written complaint was filed in the office of the Regional Chief Inspector, Port Elizabeth wherein it is alleged that on 30 October 1987 a teacher of the Astra Primary School, Gelvandale distributed pamphlets advertising an extra-school organization’s meeting to be held on 2 November 1987, during school hours.
    No report on the meeting was received because the meeting did not deal with education matters.
    The matter regarding the teacher’s absence during school hours, was investigated and the particular principal acknowledged telephonically that he had consented to the teacher’s temporary absence. However, he refused to answer questions regarding the reasons for the teacher’s temporary absence and instead referred the investigating officer as well as a written request in this regard, to his attorneys and the Cape Professional Teachers’ Association. The whole matter was subsequently referred to the Administration’s legal advisor who is of the opinion that because of a lack of valid evidence it would serve no purpose to pursue the matter further.
  2. (6) A statement is not deemed necessary.
Reynder Street Primary School, Bethelsdorp: petition by teachers *3. Mr W J DIETRICH

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

  1. (1) Whether his Department has been informed of a petition submitted by certain teachers at a school in Bethelsdorp, the name of which has been furnished to the Minister’s Department for the purpose of his reply; if not, why not; if so, (a) what is the name of this school and (b) (i) what is the purport of the petition and (ii) (aa) when and (bb) to whom was it submitted;
  2. (2) whether this petition has been referred to his Department; if not, why not; if so, (a) when and (b) what was the reaction of his Department thereto;
  3. (3) whether a complaint regarding this petition was lodged with his Department by the principal of the school concerned; if so, (a) what was the purport of this complaint and (b) (i) when and (ii) with what result was it lodged;
  4. (4) whether his Department has taken or intends taking any steps in this regard; if not, why not; if so, what steps have been or are to be taken in respect of (a) the teachers concerned and (b) the matter in general;
  5. (5) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (1), (2), (3) and (4)
    A petition signed by twenty-eight (28) teachers of the Reynder Street Primary School, Bethelsdorp was received in the office of the Regional Chief Inspector, Port Elizabeth. In the petition the teachers object to accompanying pupils to a sports meeting. The petition was returned to the school with the request that each teacher raise his/her objections separately. This request has not been acceded to.
    The matter was nevertheless discussed at a Regional Board meeting held on 11 April 1988 where it was learned that the particular teachers conscientiously objected to the exercise of normal sport.
    The Board, however, found that the particular teachers had no grounds for such objections but that they were in fact guilty of insubordination because they refused to carry out a reasonable instruction given by their Principal.
    Whereas the Board has noted that some of the teachers involved, had already apologised to the Principal for their behaviour, the Board decided to recommend to the Department that those teachers who did not do so, be seriouly reprimanded and that it be pertinently brought to their attention that they must at all times subject themselves to the authority of the Principal. This matter is receiving the Department’s urgent attention.
  2. (5) A statement is not deemed necessary.
HOUSE OF DELEGATES

†Indicates translated version.

For written reply :

General Affairs:

Umzinto: erection of prison 6. Mr M RAJAB

asked the Minister of Justice:

  1. (1) Whether it is the intention of the Prisons Service to erect a prison near Umzinto; if so, (a) when is it anticipated that (i) building operations will be (aa) commenced and (bb) completed and (ii) the new prison will be taken into use and (b) what is the estimated cost of the project;
  2. (2) whether interested parties were consulted on this matter; if not, why not; if so, (a) what interested parties, (b) when and (c) with what results;
  3. (3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:
  1. (1) Yes. A new prison for 355 prisoners is envisaged.
    1. (a)
      1. (i)
        1. (aa) Civil works commenced on 27 August 1987 and subject to the availability of funds, construction of the buildings is scheduled to commence during 1989.
        2. (bb) The projected construction period is 30 months, and it is expected that building works will be completed during 1991/ 1992, provided that funds are available throughout that period.
      2. (ii) The prison will be inaugurated as soon as possible after completion.
    2. (b) The estimated cost of the project is R22,6 million.
  2. (2) (a) (b) and (c) Yes. The SA Prisons Service registered the need for a new prison to replace the existing prison at Umzinto with the Department of Public Works and Land Affairs during 1967. Since then liaison has taken place with various interested parties over a wide spectrum which cannot be dealt with within the scope of this reply. However, should the honourable member require details regarding representations by or contact with a specific individual, interest group or body, the information will gladly be furnished.
  3. (3) No.

Own Affairs:

Qualified teachers employed temporarily 59. Mr P I DEVAN

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

Whether any professionally qualified Indian teachers were employed as temporary teachers by his Department as at the last school-day in 1987; if so, (a) how many of these teachers (i) were absorbed into the permanent staff in 1988 and (ii) are still employed in a temporary capacity and (b) in respect of what date is this information furnished?

The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:

Yes.

  1. (a)
    1. (i) Nil
    2. (ii) 248
  2. (b) 20 April 1988
Durban-Westville: persons qualified as teachers 60. Mr P I DEVAN

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

  1. (1) Whether any persons qualified as teachers at the University of Durban-Westville in 1987; if not, why not; if so, how many;
  2. (2) whether any of these teachers were in the employ of his Department as at the latest specified date in 1988 for which information is available; if so, how many were so employed in a (a) temporary and (b) permanent capacity?
The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (1) Yes, 367
  2. (2) Yes
    1. (a) 163
    2. (b) Nil
Professionally qualified teachers: records 61. Mr P I DEVAN

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

Whether his Department keeps records of all professionally qualified Indian teachers; if not, why not; if so, how many such teachers were not in the employ of his Department as at the (a) last school-day in 1987 and (b) latest specified date in 1988 for which information is available?

The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:

Yes

  1. (a) 33
  2. (b) 204 as at 20 April 1988.
Persons expected to qualify as teachers 62. Mr P I DEVAN

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

How many persons are expected to qualify as teachers at the end of 1988 at the (a) University of Durban-Westville, (b) Springfield College of Education and (c) Transvaal College of Education?

The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (a) 313
  2. (b) 179
  3. (c) 62
Qualified teachers dismissed 67. Mr K CHETTY

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

Whether any qualified teachers employed by his Department were dismissed in 1987; if so, (a) how many and (b) why?

The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:

Yes

  1. (a) 9
  2. (b) Dismissals due to redundancy and abscondment.
Teaching posts: applications from qualified teachers 72. Mr K CHETTY

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

  1. (1) Whether any qualified teachers from (a) Natal, (b) the Transvaal and (c) the Cape Province who have applied for teaching posts with his Department are still waiting to be appointed; if so, how many in each case as at the latest specified date for which figures are available;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (1) Yes
    1. (a) 177
    2. (b) 22
    3. (c) 5
      As at 20 April 1988.
  2. (2) No.
Politically related disturbances: pupils involved 73. Mr K CHETTY

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

  1. (1) Whether any Indian pupils were involved in politically related disturbances at schools falling under the control of his Department during the latest specified period of four years for which figures are available; if so, (a) how many pupils, and (b) which schools were involved, in each of these years;
  2. (2) whether any schools were damaged as a result of such disturbances during this period; if so, (a) which schools, (b) what was the total amount of the damage, (c) what amount was spent on repair costs, and (d) out of what sources of revenue were these repair costs paid, in respect of each of these years;
  3. (3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (1) Yes — 1984 to 1987.
    1. (a) Not known.
    2. (b) 1984 —None.
      1985/1986 — Rylands Secondary School — Cape.
      1987 —None.
  2. (2) Yes.
    1. (a) 1984 — None.
      1985 — None.
      1986 — Rylands Secondary School.
      1987 —None.
    2. (b) 1986 —R2 936.
    3. (c) 1986 —R2 936.
    4. (d) State Revenue Fund.
  3. (3) No.
Teachers inspected individually 76. Mr P I DEVAN

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

(a) How many teachers in his Department were inspected individually for (i) confirmation and (ii) advisory purposes in 1987 and (b) (i) what are the corresponding figures for 1988 and (ii) in respect of what date is this information furnished?

The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (a)
    1. (i) 14
    2. (ii) 329
  2. (b)
    1. (i) Confirmation: Nil.
      Advisory: 81.
    2. (ii) 31 March 1988.
Investigations into complaints conducted by superintendent of education 77. Mr P I DEVAN

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

  1. (1) How many investigations into complaints were conducted on average, by each superintendent of education of his Department in 1986 and 1987, respectively;
  2. (2) how many of these complaints were lodged (a) (i) anonymously and (ii) by complainants who identified themselves, and (b) (i) telephonically and (ii) in writing, in each of these years;
  3. (3) whether any of these investigations were initiated by the Chief Director (Control); if so, how many in each of these years?
The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:

(1)

1986: 6

1987:7

(2)

1986

1987

(a) (i)

8

11

(ii)

22

22

(b) (i)

Nil

Nil

(iii)

30

33

(3)

No.