A Joint Select Committee of Parliament is presently investigating the entire matter concerning the delimitation of constituencies of all three the Houses.

The redelimitation of constituency boundaries will consequently only come under consideration after this Committee has submitted its report.

The Department does not keep statistics on a continual basis of non-South African journalists on the staffs of South African newspapers. As part of its control of aliens in South Africa, the Department during the second half of 1986 obtained returns in terms of section 5 quat of the Aliens Act, 1937 (Act 1 of 1937), from thousands of employers in respect of foreign workers in their employ. This survey included 21 South African newspapers. From their returns it has been established that 115 nonSouth Africans, who can contribute towards influencing public opinion, are in their employ as journalists and photographers. The number represents 103 holders of permanent residence permits and 12 holders of temporary work permits. According to the records of the Department, 59 of the permits for permanent residence were issued prior to 1976, 16 between 1976 and 1980, 26 between 1981 and 1985 and 2 during 1986. Of the holders of temporary work permits, 3 have already left South Africa, whilst the permits of the others are being reviewed on a regular basis.

Mr Chairman, the survey did not include the SABC, and I therefore cannot reply to the question.

Yes. The representations can be categorized as follows:

Firstly

1. (a) Various groups of people and institutions including the Animal Welfare Society of South Africa and the Animal Anti-Cruelty League, as well as certain individuals.
2. (b) That legislation to regulate and control animal experimentation be enacted.
3. (c) All correspondents have been informed that the Department of Agricultural Economics and Marketing is at present conducting an investigation into the possibility of regulating animal experimentation. The hon member is also referred to my reply to oral question number 7 on 23 February 1988.

Secondly

1. (a) The Southern African Federation of SPCAs and Affiliated Societies.
2. (b) That section 8(1) of the Animals Protection Act, 1962 (Act 71 of 1962), be amended to provide that officers of societies for the prevention of cruelty to animals be given the authorization by a single central authority to exercise the powers referred to in section 8 of the Act, which authorization will be valid in the whole of the Republic.
3. (c) Initially I could not support the amendment. The Federation, however, has requested me to reconsider the matter which I am now doing.

Thirdly

1. (a) The Southern African Federation of SPCAs and Affiliated Societies.
2. (b) That an officer authorized in terms of section 8(1) of the Animals Protection Act, 1962, be deemed to be a police officer so as to be able to have the accompanying powers.
3. (c) None, as the request cannot be supported. The Federation has been notified accordingly.

Fourthly

1. (a) The South African Veterinary Council.
2. (b) That a certificate of a veterinarian in terms of the Performing Animals Protection Act, 1935 (Act 24 of 1935), to the effect that the animals mentioned therein are fit to be trained and/or exhibited and that the owner’s premises are fit and suitable, be valid for a shorter period than a year.
3. (c) The matter is being investigated.

I may add that the ill-treatment and maiming of animals are cowardly and inhuman deeds. Since animals are not able to defend themselves or state their case, an immense responsibility rests on Parliament to counteract the incidence of brutal acts against animals, but an even greater responsibility rests on the community. This can be done by education and community action, of which the Societies for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals are the best examples. The public is not sensitive enough to realize the role it can play in this regard. Police action and prosecutions in our courts are reactionary steps and merely represent the tip of the iceberg regarding what can be and should be done. Statistics reveal the following:

I, however, believe that the real occurrence of this malady in humans is far greater than is indicated by the number of court cases. It is therefore appropriate to make an appeal to the public to become more involved and to become engaged in the activities of Societies for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals as well as other societies. The NP is also concerned about the incidence of cruelty to animals and has already discussed the matter at one of its congresses.

Mr Chairman, the very purpose of the research that is being done at the moment is to establish whether it should have the force of law or act as a guide. My personal inclination is to support the view that it should have the force of law.

Anyone who ill-treats children can be prosecuted for various offences, statutory as well as under the common law. The courts have the necessary jurisdiction to impose a suitable sentence in cases of convictions of any of these offences.

The cowardly ill-treatment of defenceless children cannot be condemned in strong enough terms. Again it is the community and the various welfare and educational organizations which can fulfil a colossal role by acting in prevention. By leaving it to the State means that the child will first have to be ill-treated before the State can prosecute. Statistics for the period 1 July 1986 to 30 June 1987 indicate that 414 people have been prosecuted for child abuse, infanticide and kidnapping, 271 of which have been convicted. On 18 January 1988 several people were in prison who were serving sentences for 239 offences relating to child abuse. These statistics are again only the tip of the iceberg.

In 1987 I decided that offenders serving sentences of imprisonment for violence against children, will not automatically be entitled to parole. I consider each such case personally and I may even decide to refer such cases to the Advisory Release Board. The SA Police have also established a special unit which concentrates only on offences which have a bearing on child abuse. This will lead to more prosecutions and the Attorneys-General will undoubtedly react accordingly.

I once again request Attorneys-General to ensure that the maximum amount of evidence reflecting the attitude of the community is placed before the courts. One of the biggest problems is, in fact, that the public does not come to the fore with evidence.

I make an earnest appeal to the public to become involved in this problem of our society and to be alert for possible cases of child abuse. In cases where members of the public suspect that child abuse is occurring, they must please, without further ado, report this to the special unit of the SA Police or to child and family care societies. It is the bounden duty of each of us to make a real contribution—we owe it to our children.

While I am discussing this matter, I just want it placed on record that we are similarly very worried about the increasing number of attacks on defenceless elderly people. This phenomenon is upsetting. The motive is usually robbery and what goes with it. I therefore want to emphasize that we on this side of the House are also taking action in connection with all the people in our community who are defenceless. [Interjections.]

Order! The convention is that a Minister in reply to a question should confine himself to the question as asked. The hon the Minister of Justice has replied to the question, and I shall leave the matter at that.

None.

No.

1. (a) and (b) Fall away.

1. (a) 73 policemen.
2. (b) 636 policemen.

No.

Section 3 of the South African Certification Council Act, No 85 of 1986, stipulates that it is the object of the Council to ensure that the certificates issued by the Council at a point of withdrawal represent the same standard of education and examination. Because the Council, does not control education departments, it cannot introduce equal standards of education but it can however ensure that the certificates issued by it will represent the same standard. The quality of education that is provided in each education department and the standards which pupils achieve in each department, depend upon that department and the community it serves.

The members of the Council have already been appointed and the Council will in due course be able to determine its working programme.

1. (1) No.
2. (2) Falls away.
   1. (a) and (b) Fall away.
3. (3) No.
   1. (a) and (b) Fall away.
4. (4) No.

Yes.

1. (a) Eight.
2. (b) The Coloured community of Pretoria requested that Coloured student nurses from their community be trained through the medium of Afrikaans.
   1. (i) At the Coloured, Indian and Black sections of the H F Verwoerd and Weskoppies hospitals and at clinics in Eersterust.
   2. (ii) In the Dennekruin residence for Coloured nurses at the H F Verwoerd Hospital.
   3. (iii) At the Lebone Nurses Training College, where training was done in English.

1. (1) Yes.
   1. (a) 2 persons on 10 February 1988 and 2 persons on 11 February 1988. They were, however, released shortly after their arrest after they had been summonsed.
   2. (b) Contravening section 19(b) of the Immorality Act, 1957 (Act 23 of 1957), public indecency.
   3. (c) (i) and (ii)
      One detective sergeant and one detective constable of the Narcotics Bureau of the South African Police.
2. (2) (a) and (b) Yes. The Narcotics Bureau of the South African Police who are responsible for the investigation of cases of this nature, received several written complaints on various dates from residents of the area and also from persons who objected on account of moral and religious grounds.
3. (3) No. Members of the Narcotics Bureau perform duty in civilian clothes.
4. (4) No. Section 40(1)(a) of the Criminal Procedure Act, 1977 (Act 51 of 1977), authorises a police official to arrest someone who commits a crime in his presence without a warrant. The Act does not stipulate that the police official must warn the person that he/she is committing an offence before he/she is arrested.
   When the arrest is carried out, the police official must inform the person that he/she is being arrested and for what offence or crime. During the arrest of the 4 persons concerned, this requirement was met.
5. (5) Yes. Section 37(1)(a)(ii) of the Criminal Procedure Act, 1977 (Act 51 of 1977), authorizes a police official to take the finger-, palm- or footprints of a person arrested upon any charge. In the case of these 4 persons, their fingerprints were taken and sent to the South African Criminal Bureau to ascertain by that means whether they had previous convictions or not. In the event of a conviction by a competent court, the clean record/previous convictions are taken into consideration for purposes of sentencing. If the person is acquitted, the fingerprints are destroyed by the South African Criminal Bureau as soon as they are informed of the acquittal.

NOTE: I wish to point out to the hon member that according to representations received from the residents of the area, since the beginning of the summer and since the press started giving publicity to topless bathing, men of dubious character have flocked to this beach. Police observation has confirmed this fact. Therefore action is being taken against the transgressors in the interests of the residents of the area and the law abiding persons who visit the beach.

Mr Chairman, the hon member is now after something that is not clear to me. [Interjections.] People flock to the beach and the local residents complain to us that there are unsavoury characters in the neighbourhood. Therefore we act against those people who cause the influx of unsavoury characters. Now the hon member is angry with us; now he is at loggerheads with us. I do not want to spoil the hon member’s fun. I do not think that the hon member will be seen in that light when he pays a visit there.

Mr Chairman, if the people who flock there do not commit an offence, why should we pick them up?

No.

1. (a) and (b) Fall away.

1. (1) Particulars of the race of air passengers are not recorded on passenger records.
2. (2) Particulars of requests for specific seats are not kept.
3. (3) No, a uniform policy in respect of seating allocations in the economy class, viz a choice of seat during check-in or if such a choice is not made, at random by computer, is applied.

Yes. The hon member’s attention is invited to section 80 read with section 107 of the Electoral Act, 1979 (Act 45 of 1979). Marked ballot papers and the counterfoils of such ballot papers are sealed separately in the presence of representatives of political parties. The marked ballot papers are kept in the sealed packets by the Returning Officer and the counterfoils are kept in the sealed packets by the Chief Electoral Officer in Pretoria for a period of twelve months before they are destroyed. All these documents are kept in safe custody for the said period. Access to such ballot papers may be granted only by an order of the Supreme Court.

Yes.

1. (a) The Bureau for Information was responsible for the preparation and placement of the advertisements.
2. (b) R153 768,16 on 1 March 1988.
3. (c)
   1. (i) Newspapers
      Rapport
      Sunday Times
      Sunday Tribune
      Beeld
      Die Burger
      The Star
      The Argus
      The Citizen
      Sowetan
      Business Day
      Oosterlig
      Die Volksblad
      City Press
      Ilanga
      Imvo Zabantsundu
      Eastern Province Herald
   2. (ii) Magazines
      Africa Business
      Finansies en Tegniek
      Finance Week
      Financial Mail
4. (d) 2 123 718 (newspapers only)
   2 197 818 (magazines included)
5. (e)
   1. (i) Bureau for Information
   2. (ii) The Deputy Minister of Information.

Order! That is not a question arising from the hon the Deputy Minister’s reply.

Yes, the Matimba power station.

1. (a) 3 900 MW on completion.
2. (b)
   1. (i) R3 927 million on forecast (in 1988 money values).
   2. (ii) R3 880 million, excluding interest charges.
3. (c)
   1. (i) 1981.
   2. (ii) September 1991.
4. (d) Unit 1 of the power station should have started to operate in September 1986 but was only put into operation in September 1987 and the delay did not increase the estimated final cost of the project. Unit 2 was completed in December 1987.

1. (1) No. In accordance with section 9(1)(a) of the National Roads Act, 1971 (Act 54 of 1971), toll may only be levied on a national road. As the relevant road is not a national road the operating authority is precluded from levying toll.
2. (2) No. The body responsible for the maintenance and upgrading of this road is the Soweto City Council. The Urban Transport Fund, however, made a contribution of 60 percent of the cost.

No.

1. (a) The Auditor-General had foreseen that the Committee would base its investigation on a random test, covering the last three years. 31 January 1988 was regarded as an attainable date. The Committee was, however, of the opinion that an investigation of this nature necessitated that full particulars of all transactions over a period of five years should serve as basis for the investigation. This view of the Committee has a substantial influence on the extent of the investigation, and consequent date of completion.
2. (b) 31 May 1988.

The Department of Development Aid is erecting a community health centre in Seshego, Lebowa. This centre is so designed that with the provision of certain clinical facilities, surgical facilities, nursing units and accompanying support services the centre can readily be upgraded into a community hospital.

1. (a) The current contract makes provision for the first phase of the nurses’ home, outpatient and casualty facilities together with essential support services for an eventual 200 bed hospital. The further development of the project is to be carried out at the discretion of the Lebowa Government in response to identified needs and the availability of finance. Beds made available under the present contract comprise 24 for maternity cases and 16 for casualty cases.
2. (b) The estimated cost of erecting the community health centre is R11 024 000.
3. (c) It is anticipated that the building will be made available to the Lebowa Department of Health at the end of May 1988.

1. (1) No. The Department has not received a copy of the report as yet.
2. (2) (a) and (b) Fall away.
3. (3)
   1. (a) 145 per 100 000 of the population in the Republic of South Africa.
   2. (b) Information is for the year 1987 as available on 23 February 1988.
4. (4) None.

1. (1)
   — Beds
   — Mattresses
   — Pillows
   — Sheets
   — Pillow-cases
   — Blankets
   — Bedspreads
   — Sisal mats
   — Felt mats
2. (2) Yes.
   The population group or category prisoner is not determining factors with regard to the type of bedding which is provided.
   It is policy that every prisoner shall be provided with adequate and clean bedding. This is in line with the Standard Minimum Rules for the Treatment of Prisoners of which the Republic of South Africa is a signatory and in terms of which every prisoner shall, in accordance with local or national standards, be provided with sufficient bedding.
   The provision of beds to all prisoners, irrespective of race, sex or category, has been accepted in principle and is being implemented gradually with due cognisance of funds- and accommodation realities.
   Where beds and mattresses are not provided, sisal mats and felt mats are issued instead. The quantity of sisal and felt mats is adapted according to climatic conditions.
   (a) and (b) (i) and (ii) fall away.

Yes.

(a) , (b), (c), (d) and (e)

In order to prevent situations from developing to the point where personnel and detainees may be seriously injured or even killed, the SA Prisons Service staff is committed to and also trained in the use of the minimum force. The use of tear-smoke is subject to strict rules and serves as an alternative when all other less drastic options to defuse a potentially dangerous situation have been exhausted and where it is obvious that violence aimed at fellow detainees or personnel has to be prevented, property be protected from wanton and malicious damage and order be restored. Tear-smoke which is used in such cases after requests to calm down have been ignored, is an effective alternative to the application and deployment of more stringent means. This is in line with the International Standard Minimum Rules for the Treatment of Prisoners.

From 10 February 1987 to 31 January 1988 small quantities of tear-smoke sprayed by hand with aerosol spray cans by the personnel were used on seven occasions and tear-smoke cartridges were used on two more serious occasions to calm down emergency regulation detainees and to effectively defuse potentially dangerous situations. The particulars are as follows [Remainder of reply laid upon the Table with leave of House]:

1. (1) Durban Medium B Prison
   Date: 16 February 1987
   Detainees acted riotous, refused to come out of their cells and blocked their cell doors with beds. Tear-smoke cartridges were used.
2. (2) Modderbee Medium Prison
   Date: 12 March 1987
   I dealt extensively with this incident in this House in reply to Oral Question No 1 on 4 August 1987.
3. (3) Middelburg Prison (CP)
   Date: 15 March 1987
   Detainees shouted slogans, acted riotous and refused to respond to requests to calm down. Tear-smoke in an aerosol spray can was used.
4. (4) Potchefstroom Prison
   Date: 16 March 1987
   A detainee broke the toilet in his cell on purpose and threatened to assault members of the staff with it, should they enter the cell. Tear-smoke in an aerosol spray can was used.
5. (5) Vereeniging Prison
   Date: 4 April 1987
   Detainees swore at the personnel and set fire to towels, creating a fire hazard which may have threatened many lives. Tearsmoke in an aerosol spray can was used.
6. (6) Johannesburg Prison
   Date: 1 May 1987
   Detainees refused to enter their cells and swore at the personnel. Tear-smoke in an aerosol spray can was used.
7. (7) Durban Medium B Prison
   Date: 5 May 1987
   I dealt with this incident in this House on 26 May 1987 and 11 August 1987 in reply to Oral Questions No 11 and No 13 respectively.
   The applicants withdrew their motion application which was brought before the Supreme Court in Durban on 1 September 1987. The circumstances of this incident forms part of the plea which is public information and which cannot be dealt with in full within the scope of this reply due to the volume thereof. Tear-smoke cartridges were used.
8. (8) Grootvlei Maximum Prison
   Date: 11 May 1987
   Detainees swore at the personnel and acted aggressively by kicking and hitting at members of the staff. Tear-smoke in an aerosol spray can was used.
9. (9) East London Medium A Prison
   Date: 12 May 1987
   A detainee acted aggressively and assaulted personnel. Tear-smoke in an aerosol spray can was used.
   In all the above-mentioned cases, where necessary medical treatment was given to detainees after the use of tear-smoke.

1. (1) Yes, “Contact”.
2. (2) It represents the personal opinions of the writer and is not necessarily the official viewpoint of the South African Defence Force.
3. (3) The article has not yet been drafted.

1. (1) to (4) The person involved is Mr Robert Von Palace Kolbatschenko, who, according to the records of the Department, was granted a permit for permanent residence on 21 December 1987.
   It is my intention to make public as soon as possible all relevant facts at the Department’s disposal. I have been advised not to do so at this stage due to a police investigation which is presently being conducted. The premature disclosure of these facts may prejudice the investigation.
   The Department of Home Affairs is giving its full co-operation to the SA Police in its investigation, and has already supplied the Police with all the available information in this matter.
2. (5) One official of the Department has been arrested, but no charges have been formulated as yet.
   1. (a) Clerical.
   2. (b) J D Scheffer.
   3. (c) Falls away.

Mr Chairman, in the records which we have in the department the name is the one I read now. I believe the name to which the hon member referred, was also used.

No, but enquiries are presently being conducted to establish whether any criminal offences were committed by any person. I am not prepared to furnish information regarding these enquiries as it will defeat the purpose of such enquiries.

(a) to (d) Fall away.

1. (1) No, but enquiries are presently being conducted to establish whether any criminal offences were committed by any person, I am not prepared to furnish information regarding these enquiries as it will defeat the purpose of such enquiries.
   1. (a) and (b) Fall away.
2. (2) Falls away.
3. (3) No.

Mr Chairman, I have mentioned that we are at present making enquiries in this regard. As I have indicated I am not prepared to give any further information at this stage.

1. (a) and (b) No, not of which my Departments are aware of.
   1. (i)-(iv) fall away.

1. (1) The Department of Education and Training does not differentiate between persons of different population groups in the appointment of teachers.
2. (2) No.
   1. (a) and (b) fall away.

Mr Chairman, the question reads: What are the conditions under which qualified Black teachers are employed?

The answer to that is that all the teachers in our department are appointed under the same conditions.

Yes, Mr Chairman, I can. In the first place there must be a vacant post. In the second place, the person must be of good character, have no mental or physical deficiency, illness or weakness, must be under the age of 55 years and be a South African citizen or a citizen of an independent state, with the provision that the Minister may appoint a non-South African citizen in a full-time, permanent capacity. In the third place, all appointments are on probation for at least 12 calendar months. The appointment must be recommended by the school committee, the governing body and the circuit inspector.

Mr Chairman, the same conditions as for permanent appointments apply for temporary appointments with the exception of the age limit and citizenship. Temporary appointments are not subject to probation.

1. (1)
   1. (a) Yes
   2. (b) Yes
   3. (c) Yes

1. (1) (iii) The best available candidates after advertising.
2. (2) Yes
   1. (a) Falls away
   2. (b) Permanent on probation on the dates shown above.
3. (3) Yes.
   Choices were made by the Selection Committee of the Department. The rest of the question falls away.
4. (4)
   1. (a) Yes
      1. (i) 6
      2. (ii) Luhlaza Secondary School
         Isilemela Comprehensive School
         Intshukumo Comprehensive School
         Lugunya Secondary School (two)
         Crossroads No 3 Secondary School
   2. (b) Yes
      1. (i) 7
      2. (ii) Masiyile Secondary School
         Maliso Secondary School
         ID Makize Secondary School
         Crossroads No 3 Secondary School
         Fezeka Secondary School
         Langa Secondary School
         Sizamile Secondary School

1. (1) Yes
   1. (a) Eleven (out of a total of 44 090)
   2. (b) Two because of unprofessional conduct, two because they submitted false information on their application documents, one was dismissed due to inefficiency, absenteeism and lack of interest in his work and six had their probationary appointments terminated because of unsatisfactory service.
   3. (c) Natal Region nine and Highveld Region two.
2. (2) Yes
   1. (a) One
   2. (b) The school committee and principal concerned were not satisfied with the quality of his work during 1987.
3. (c) Highveld Region.

1. (a) The Department of Agricultural Economics and Marketing follows the policy laid down in accordance with the provisions of the Public Service Act, 1984 (Act 111 of 1984), with regard to the promotion of Black employees, namely according to the relative merit, proven work achievements, skills, level of training and in consideration of the suitability for the higher post within the rank structure determined for Black employees; and
2. (b) to the highest level according to the post classification in the Public Service in terms of the said Act, but with due observance of the qualifications required for the post concerned.

1. (a) The promotion of Black employees is based on relative merit, level of training and suitability for the post.
2. (b) Taking (a) into consideration there is no limitation to the level to which Black employees can be promoted.

1. (1) The College is being closed as part of the rationalization of teacher training necessitated by the decrease in pupil numbers;
2. (2) yes, the reasons were discussed at meetings on 9 September 1986, 11 June 1987 and 9 October 1987 with a delegation from the Regional Development Advisory Committee (Region A) (Western Cape) and also on 25 September 1987 and 9 October 1987 with a delegation from the Paarl Teachers’ College;
3. (3) an understanding for the necessity of rationalization was shown;
4. (4) no.

The answer to that is “no”.

Mr Chairman, there is a question on the Question Paper in this regard, and if the reply to that does not satisfy the hon member is at liberty to have a further question on that placed on the Question Paper.

1. (1) One handwork centre one swimming-pool two more rooms for tuition in Physical Education four more netball fields;
2. (2) music laboratory music theatre six more rooms for tuition in music hostel accommodation for 119 more students tuition facilities for 50 more students six more tennis courts one cricket field;
3. (3) yes,
   1. (a) facilities for tuition in Woodwork and Metalwork,
   2. (b) R1 150 000;
4. (4) yes,

Rationalization of any type generates certain costs. These costs must be avaluated against the overhead saving brought about by the rationalization.

Facilities that became redundant during the process of rationalization are utilized, in every instance, in the interests of the country.

Mr Chairman, no such discussion was held, but the policy of my Department concerning these matters is very clear. I have already spelt it out here on previous occasions and I have also set it out by means of statements. In short, it is that when buildings that fall under the jurisdiction of the Department of Education and Culture become available, this Department takes no pleasure in retaining such buildings for itself. In that case the following policies apply. Firstly an investigation is made to see whether the buildings concerned could be utilized for the needs of the Department of Education and Culture, instead of constructing a new building for a different purpose. Secondly we try to establish from the Administration: House of Assembly whether there is a need for buildings for one of the other departments. If the buildings are not needed there, we try, thirdly, to establish whether there may be such a need in any other State department, which in the nature of things also includes own affairs departments of the House of Representatives, the House of Delegates and Education and Development Aid. In this particular case there were indications that the buildings concerned could be used by certain State departments—a matter that we are investigating at present.

Mr Chairman, the whole matter is still under consideration. In reply to a further question on the Question Paper we shall indicate that finality has not yet been reached about this.

Yes, no further rationalization of teachertraining facilities is being considered at this stage.

1. (a)
   1. (i) Applications were handed in by six persons to the Department and is now under consideration. Local authorities were requested by means of a circular letter to administer the scheme and there may thus be further applications which are being processed for submission to the Department. I thank local authorities for their willingness to find methods together with the Department for protection in the interest of our aged.
   2. (ii) One to date; the other applications are in various stages of consideration.
      For the information of the hon member, I wish to point out that applications for safety features were also received from institutions in respect of projects and housing units for the aged and that loans were granted in the amounts as follows:

1. (b) The conditions applicable in respect of the repayment of these loans are as follows:
   The loan must be secured by means of a first or second mortgage bond registered against the land on which the dwelling is situated or against the unit (in the case of a sectional title scheme);
   registration of the required bond must be undertaken by the mortgagee’s attorneys: the approved quotation may be accepted by the mortgagor only after the required power of attorney to register a bond has been signed by the borrower;
   the loan may be paid out only after the bond has been registered and the work executed to the satisfaction of the mortgagee;
   the loan together with the interest due thereon must be repaid monthly in equal instalments over a maximum period of five years;
   the first monthly instalment is payable on the first day of the month following the date on which the loan is paid out; and the borrower is responsible for payment of registration costs of the required bond as well as the payment of administration costs.
   As far as the financial assistance is concerned, a maximum loan of R2 000 will be considered, on the merit of applications, which is repayable over a redemption period of five years at an interest rate of 13,5% per annum, compounded monthly on an annuity basis. Accepting that the maximum loan of R2 000 is granted, the subsidy on the interest and capital redemption of the monthly repayment will be on the following basis:

On a loan of less than R2 000 the monthly repayment and amount of subsidy are reduced pro rata, as follows:

Monthly repayment/subsidy X Amount of Loan / 2000

1. (1) No,
   1. (a) the Commission for Administration is at present investigating the division of staff and finances,
   2. (b) as soon as the investigation is completed,
      1. (i) and (ii) fall away;
2. (2)
   1. (a) no,
   2. (b) this matter is currently being finally negotiated,
3. (3) no.

1. (1) Yes, at all schools requiring their services;
2. (2) yes;
3. (3) yes;
4. (4) no.

1. (1) Yes, on 15 May 1986
   The Minister of Education and Culture, however, decided on 27 November 1987 not to proceed with the closure of hospital schools;
2. (2) Yes, due to a shortage of funds spending priorities had to be reconsidered;
3. (3) Yes,
   1. (a) 28 September 1987,
   2. (b) to the Minister of Education and Culture,
   3. (c) for the continuation of the hospital schools.

Mr Chairman, in reply to the question of the hon member I can just point out that in the meantime continual negotiations took place between the various parties.

1. (1)
   1. (a) The Director of Education for Natal,
   2. (b) the required number of school days; request from the road safety authorities that the schools of the provinces, especially Natal and Transvaal, where possible not open and close simultaneously; to have school terms of approximately equal length; to include the Easter weekend in a school vacation, to provide some overlap of vacations to facilitate inter-provincial sporting and cultural events for school pupils; to avoid Mondays as the first day of school terms where possible; to ensure that a public holiday does not fall in the first week of a school term where possible; to ensure that schools do not close on the day immediately preceding a public holiday where possible, or re-open on the day immediately after a public holiday;
2. (2) the general requirements of the calendar were discussed by the Natal Provincial Advisory Committee on Education Services (PACES) on which senior officials of the Natal Education Department and representatives of the recognized teachers’ societies serve;
3. (3) yes, regarding the 1989 calendar,
   1. (a) the Natal Teachers’ Society, the Rector of the Natal College of education, a member of the Natal Education Council, individual parents,
   2. (b) that the Natal Education Department reconsider the abnormally early reopening date of 10 January 1989, in view of the very hot and humid weather at that time of year;
4. (4) yes, the 1989 calendar has been adjusted to provide for a later re-opening (17 January 1989) and a later closing (6 December 1989) of the school year.

1. (1)
   1. (a) The Paarl Teachers’ College and the Wellington Teachers’ College will amalgamate and form a new college with effect from 1 January 1990,
   2. (b) the options open to members of staff whose posts become redundant as a result of reorganization have been discussed with the lecturers. Some staff members have already been appointed to other posts;
2. (2) no, negotiations regarding the utilization of the buildings are still taking place;
3. (3) yes, but it was decided not to make the buildings and facilities available for this purpose;
4. (4) no.

1. (a) Promotion of Black employees in the Department is effected according to the approved rank structure for General Assistants Grades I to III in the Public Service. Promotions are considered according to merit, proven work achievements and skills.
2. (b) The highest rank is that of General Assistant Grade III.

1. (a) The maintenance of sports fields: 14 April 1987,
   the requests to effect savings:
   textbooks: 15 January 1987
   consumable items: 14 April 1987
   water, electricity and telephone: 18 May 1987;
2. (b) 100% on water and electricity in respect of sporting facilities and 10% on telephone calls: 15 January 1988.

Mr Chairman, the hon member’s question is a reasonable one. One would like to do that earlier as far as possible. As far as 1987 is concerned, it was already stated by 1 April 1987. One must also understand that the budgeting process is such that it is only at a fairly late stage that finality is reached on the particular budgeted amounts that is allocated to the various Education Departments. For that reason planning cannot take place far in advance. As far as general savings is concerned, that is done in the time we find for it and also in the process of rationalization. As far as particular items are concerned, it can really only be done after we have been notified of the budgeted amount.

1. (1) Yes, revised post level ratio norms have been approved,
   1. (a) the implementation of revised post level ratio norms has not yet been finalized and, as a consequence the total expenditure is not yet available,
   2. (b) the posts will be filled retrospectively as from 1 November 1987;
2. (2) yes,
   1. (a) qualification categories E, F and G,
   2. (b) R12,5 million,
   3. (c) it is the policy of the Department to extend parity to all qualification categories. Implementation depends on the availability of funds;
3. (3) yes,
   1. (a) and (b) the posts were established on 1 November 1987 and the policy is to fill the posts with retrospective effect from that date;
4. (4) yes,
   1. (a) 1 November 1987,
   2. (b) and (c) in accordance with the above-mentioned policy;
5. (5) no, no underqualified teachers for whom salary improvements have been announced are employed by the Department;
6. (6) no.