House of Assembly: Vol21 - WEDNESDAY 31 MAY 1933
Mr. SPEAKER, as chairman, brought up the report of the Committee on Standing Rules and Orders, as follows—
E. G. Jansen, Chairman.
Committee Rooms, House of Assembly, 31st May, 1933.
Report considered and adopted
Following message sent to the Senate—
House of Assembly, 31st May, 1933.
Mr. SPEAKER announced that the Committee on Standing Rules and Orders has appointed the following members to serve on the Select Committee on the Rand Water Board Statutes 1903-’32 Amendment (Private) Bill, viz.: Messrs. O’Brien, Coulter and Oost; Mr. O’Brien to be chairman.
Message read from the Senate—
The Senate, 30th May, 1933.
I move—
In the ordinary way it would have been a little early to ask the House at this stage for consent to commence night sittings. I think, however, that every hon. member realizes that, inasmuch as this is practically an extraordinary session, it is desirable to take this step now. The chief work of this session, or, rather, the only big work of it, is to dispose of the estimates. The budget debate will actually be started on Thursday by hon. members, and it is accordingly necessary that evening sittings should be started at once so that full days can be given to the debate in accordance with the rules of the House. Then there is also another reason. I think we all want to get this session over as soon as possible, because it is in the interests of all hon. members to get through the work as soon as possible instead of having the evenings idle and to allow time to be lost in that way. It will, to a great extent, be for the sake of hon. members’ convenience that the evenings should be taken because we cannot get away from the fact that we want to finish the work as soon as possible. There may be cases where hon. members would like to have a definite evening free and, so far as that is concerned, the Government will always be prepared to meet the wishes of the House as far as possible.
Mr. M. L. MALAN seconded.
Motion put and agreed to.
I move, as an unopposed motion—
The object of this is that the other House is waiting, looking for employment.
Put them on the dole.
The object is that these small measures should be dealt with by the House, so that they may be referred to the other House as soon as possible.
Mr. VAN COLLER seconded.
Motion put and agreed to.
Second Order read: Second reading, South Africa Act Amendment Bill.
I move—
The intention underlying this Bill is to make two small amendments in the South Africa Act. The first amendment is to provide for the substitution, during the absence of Ministers, of persons qualified to act in their stead. At the present time, in accordance with the provisions of section 14 of the South Africa Act, the Governor-General has power to appoint ten Ministers, and afterwards that was amended to eleven Ministers of State, to administer such departments of State of the Union as the Governor-General-in-Council may establish. Under section 126 of the South Africa Act, subject to the authority of the Governor-General-in-Council, the control and management of the railways, ports and harbours of the Union, are exercised through a board consisting of not more than three commissioners, and a Minister of State. As the House is aware, we are faced with the position that in quite a short time three of the Ministers of State will have to be absent on important business overseas, and it is necessary to provide for other Ministers to take the place of these Ministers of State. My hon. friend, Mr. Stuttaford, is not in the position of a Minister of State. He is a Minister without portfolio, and as the law only allows for eleven Ministers of State, he is not qualified to take the place of an absent Minister. To cure that defect in the law, this Bill is introduced. Clause I of the Bill provides for the addition of a new sub-section to section 14 of the South Africa Act, the existing section becoming sub-section (1). This new sub-section provides that whenever any Minister of State is, from any cause whatever, unable to perform any of the functions of his office, the Governor-General-in-Council may appoint any member of the Executive Council (whether he has or has not been appointed as a Minister of State, under sub-section (1) ) to act in the said Minister’s stead, either generally or in the performance of any particular function. That is to give the Governor-General power, in the absence of a particular Minister of State, to summon another member of the Executive Council, who may not be an executive Minister of State, to act in his stead. The second and third clauses are in the nature of an enabling Act and an Act of indemnity. The ingenuity of certain legal advisers has brought about the discovery that the holding of the office of justice of the peace is the holding of an office of profit under the Crown, and, as hon. members are aware, under section 53 of the South Africa Act, a person holding an office of profit under the Crown is not qualified to be a member of this House, and if anyone sits or acts as a member of this House without being qualified in accordance with law, he is liable to a penalty of £100 for each day on which he sits and votes. If that legal opinion is correct, and if it is true that the holding of the office of justice of the peace is the holding of an office of profit under the Crown, then I am afraid that certain members of this House, and members of preceding Parliaments, may have rendered themselves liable to the penalty provided under the South Africa Act. I do not say that this opinion is a thing which is free from doubt. It might possibly be considered as arguable. But it is very important that in a matter of this kind no doubt should remain, and anybody who in the past has stood under this possible disqualification should be relieved from any liability he may be under to be submitted to these extreme penalties: therefore, I am proposing to add to section 53 of the South Africa Act a new subparagraph as follows—
Clause three provides—
I would like to say a word on this. I do not want to oppose the Bill, and I should be a strong supporter of it, seeing that I have been a justice of the peace for the past thirty years or thereabouts. It is rather a misnomer to call it an office of profit. There is not a single fee attached to the office, and it is entirely voluntary work. It is true that under his appointment a justice of the peace appeared to be allowed to do all sorts of things—to hold inquests, issue warrants of arrest, and so forth, but in the Cape at present a justice of the peace is little more than a commissioner of oaths with regard to voting by post and naturalization, the law requires a justice of the peace; but, apart from that, he is nothing more than a glorified commissioner of oaths in the Cape. He is distinct from special justices of the peace, who are Government officials, and the ordinary justices of the peace in the Cape are a dying race, and there are no new appointments except under the Act of 1914. I merely mention this because someone has expressed a doubt about the matter whether they hold an office of profit under the Crown, but this doubt can hardly apply to the Cape. I would heartily support the motion because, even if I was one of the new millionaires in Johannesburg created through our going off gold, I could not pay the fines referred to by the Minister which might be imposed. Under the circumstances I heartily support the Bill.
I merely want to point out that the statement of the previous speaker is not quite right. There are two kinds of justices of the peace. The one is called a commissioner of oaths and he receives no fees. The other is what we call a justice of the peace in the Cape Province, and he has the right to charge for his work. I speak from experience, because I was unseated myself because I was a justice of the peace. I was elected as a member of the provincial council and was unseated because as justice of the peace I had the right of receiving fees for the work. The justice of the peace does registration of births and deaths, and has the right of being paid for the work. I think it is 6d. a case. This Bill will therefore lead to difficulties if it does not distinguish between a justice of the peace and a commissioner of oaths. There is actually a big difference between the two, and a justice of the peace may get into trouble even if he has only received a few sixpences, if he is not indemnified by law.
Motion put and agreed to.
Bill read a second time; House to go into committee now.
House in Committee:
On Clause 1,
Is the penalty which may be incurred not remitted? This is not so expressly declared in this clause.
It is dealt with in the next clause.
Clause put and agreed to.
On Clause 2,
I want to ask the Minister whether, in addition to making this retrospective from the 1st day of August, 1914, there should not be an express remission of any penalty which might have been incurred. I have a recollection that in a similar case in the House of Commons, in addition to validating what was irregular, it was provided expressly that the penalty which had been incurred would be remitted. I ask the Minister to accept a sub-clause (b), which might set at rest the fears of the hon. member for Cape Town (Castle) (Mr. Alexander). It would be wise also expressly to declare that any member who has been chosen as such when he was disqualified was in fact duly elected on the date of his return. I move accordingly.
What the hon. member for Cape Town (Gardens) (Mr. Coulter) proposes may involve some difficulty, because we may have to get the Governor-General’s message with regard to the remission, as it is a matter of revenue. If my hon. friend will look at Clause 3 he will see it makes Clause 2 become operative from the 1st day of August, 1914. If the Bill becomes law the provisions of Clause 2 become operative from that date.
Clause put and agreed to.
Clause 3 and title having been agreed to,
House Resumed:
Bill reported without amendment and read a third time.
Third Order read: Third reading, Agricultural Pests Amendment Bill.
Bill read a third time.
Fourth Order read: Third reading, Franschhoek Water (Private) Bill.
Bill read a third time.
First Order read: Adjourned debate on motion for House to go into Committee of Supply.
[Debate, adjourned on 30th May, resumed.]
1. Before dealing with the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the ensuing year, it will assist hon. members to a better understanding of the figures if I first of all comment briefly on the results of working the railways, harbours and steamships during the financial year which terminated on the 31st March last.
- 2. The year 1932-’33 commenced with an accumulated deficit, brought forward from the previous year, of £2,498,209.
- 3. In the estimates approved by Parliament last year, provision was made for an expenditure during 1932-’33 of £26,066,652.
- 4. Revenue for the year was anticipated to amount to £25,997,511, so that allowance was made for a deficit for the year 1932 ’33 of £69,141.
- 5. In the green book, which will be distributed this afternoon, hon. members will find published therein figures showing the revised estimated results for the year 1932’33.
- 6. The accounts for the year 1932-’33 are not yet closed finally, but it is considered that the figures shown in the green book will be sufficiently close to the actual results, when it is known, to warrant our regarding them for the moment as actual.
- 7. From the green book it will be noted that instead of a deficit of £69,141, the year 1932 ’33 ended with a deficit of £1,196,273 or an increase in the deficit of £1,127,132.
- 8. This adverse result was brought about by the revenue from all sources failing to reach anticipations by £1,954,067, while, on the other hand, savings in expenditure were effected of £826,935, the adverse difference, of course, being as already stated, £1,127,132.
- 9. To deal with the revenue first, it will be recalled that, at the time the estimates for the year under review were framed, there was nothing to indicate that traffic would continue on the down grade to such depths as were actually experienced.
- 10. On the contrary, bearing in mind the abnormal drop in revenue that had already taken place during the preceding year and the special steps that had been taken partly to meet the position, it was confidently anticipated that revenue for 1932-’33 would at least be no less than that of the year 1931-’32.
- 11. Experience, however, proved otherwise.
- 12. Of the total shortfall in revenue, railway earnings alone dropped by £1,420,444, and it is of interest to compare, with the previous year, the earnings under this head for each quarter of the year.
13. The comparison is as follows:—
- 14. I mention these figures because they illustrate the abnormal drop experienced during the first quarter of the financial year and how in later quarters a steady improvement was manifested until in the last quarter of the year there was actually an increase, as compared with the same quarter of the previous year.
- 15. In this shrinkage of revenue all heads of railway earnings were affected, but it was proportionately greater in some cases than in others.
- 16. This is illustrated by the following:— Passengers decreased by £578,448 or 12.4 cent.; parcels decreased by £50,378 or 6.5 per cent; goods and minerals decreased by £485,264 or 3.9 per cent.; coal decreased by £297,781 or 10 per cent.; livestock and miscellaneous decreased by £8,573 or .7 per cent.—Total decrease for the year, £1,420,444 or 6.4 per cent.
- 17. In regard to earnings derived from harbours and steamships, a similar state of affairs was experienced, the position being that, compared with the previous year, there was a shrinkage in harbour revenue of £114,155 or 9.6 per cent.; and in steamships revenue of £33,594 or 28.1 per cent.
- 18. The improvement in earnings that has taken place in the last quarter of the year is, indeed, a welcome sign, as it would seem to indicate that the lowest point in earnings has actually been passed and that from now onwards, a more hopeful view may be taken of the prospects for the current year.
- 19. Turning now to the expenditure incurred during 1932-’33, I have already mentioned that, compared with the original estimates for that year, a saving was effected amounting to £826,935.
- 20. This represents a saving of 3.2 per cent. and may appear at first glance to have been insufficient in its relationship to the shortfall of £1,954,067 or 7.5 per cent. under revenue.
- 21. But in this connection I would remind hon. members that in a business concern of the magnitude of our railways, harbours and steamships, it is impossible for expenditure to be reduced concurrently with, and in the same ratio to, a decrease in revenue.
- 22. This applies especially to the year under review when the shortfall in revenue was abnormal and wholly unexpected.
- 23. It must also be remembered that a large proportion of our costs includes charges which do not vary to any appreciable extent with fluctuations in the volume of traffic transported.
- 24. As a matter of fact, in the extraordinary circumstances that prevailed, the saving effected was a remarkable achievement, and to illustrate this, I would like to mention for the information of hon. members certain unit cost figures.
- 25. Let me first direct attention to the operating ratio for the railway transportation services—that is, the ratio of the working expenses to the revenue earned by these services, expressed as a percentage of the revenue.
- 26. Hon. members will appreciate that the tendency in times of falling revenue is for the operating ratio to rise, without it necessarily meaning that the railways are being badly managed.
- 27. In spite of this, however, in the year 1932-’33, when, as I have already mentioned, there was a heavy drop in revenue, the operating ratio was reduced to 75.61 per cent. or a decrease of 4.26 per cent. as compared with 79.87 per cent. for the previous year.
- 28. Stated in another way, this means that for the year 1932-’33 it cost £4 5s. 2d. less to earn £100 of railway revenue, than it did in 1931-’32.
- 29. Then again, in the train mile costs there was a reduction of 5d. per train mile, the total cost being 7s. 11d. as compared with 8s. 4d. for the previous year.
- 30. These figures afford evidence amply sufficient to convince hon. members, that the comparatively heavy deficit for the year was not due in any way to lack of efficiency, or lack of economy in management.
31. Before concluding my remarks on the results of working of the past financial year, permit me to mention a few facts and figures for 1932-’33 compared with the previous year.
- 32. The number of passenger journeys during the year ended February last was 69,941,617, a decrease compared with the previous year of 3,464,587.
- 33. Of this decrease in the number of passenger journeys—1,948,139 were in respect of suburban traffic and 1,516,448 in respect of other than suburban traffic.
- 34. For the 12 months ended February last, the tonnage of goods and mineral traffic conveyed was 11,293,865 tons, whereas in the previous corresponding 12 months the tonnage was 11,550,077, or a decrease of 256,212 or 2.2 per cent.
- 35. The decrease was composed of: General merchandise, 180,593 tons; grain and produce (excluding grain for export), 130,289; minerals and low grade traffic, 200,223; or a gross decrease of 511,105; while on the other hand, increases were experienced in respect of: Sugar cane, 10,219 tons; grain for export, 244,674— 254,893; making, as I have just mentioned, a net decrease of 256,212.
- 36. The tonnage of coal conveyed also shows a considerable falling off, compared with 1931-’32. The quantity conveyed during the 12 months ended February, 1933, was 6,538,599 tons, which, compared with the previous year of 7,765,357, represents a decrease of 1,226,758 or 15.8 per cent.
- 37. Of this decrease in coal traffic, coal for local consumption accounts for 816,057 tons, and coal for shipment accounts for 410,701, total decrease, 1,226,758.
- 38. In regard to livestock traffic, for the 12 months ended February, 1933, compared with the previous year, there was an increase in the number of head conveyed, the figures being respectively: For the year 1932-’33, 3,711,613; and for the year 1931-’32, 3,593,649; an increase over the previous year of 117,964 or 3.3 per cent.
- 39. Turning to the results of working the subsidiary services, which, as in the case of main services, experienced an all-round drop in revenue, I will deal first with that of the catering services.
- 40. The business of the catering service has continued to suffer severely, not only on account of a reduction in the number of passengers travelling, but on account of a lack of patronage on the part of a large number of those who did travel.
- 41. With a view to encouraging patronage of the dining cars, it was decided, with effect from December last, to reduce the cash tariff for meals on dining cars from 10s. 6d. to 8s. 6d. per day, the latter being the rate at which meal coupon books were previously sold. In view of this arrangement the sale of meal coupon books is no longer necessary and has been discontinued.
- 42. While on the subject of the catering department, it may interest hon. members to learn that since the removal of the catering facilities, in November last, from the old Johannesburg station premises, to the new building, a gratifying increase in catering revenue has been experienced.
- 43. The average weekly receipts have been approximately trebled compared with the takings in the old station.
- 44. The reduction in number of the travelling public has also had an adverse effect on sales at bookstalls and from automatic machines.
- 45. A significant feature of the bookstall business, however, is the increasing extent to which the travelling public are now supporting South African as against overseas publications.
- 46. In regard to the advertising section—that is commercial advertising as distinct from advertising for the purpose of attracting traffic— considering the shrinkage in business brought about by the depression, the results obtained for 1932 ’33 may be regarded as not unsatisfactory, a profit having been earned in this branch only slightly less than that of the previous year.
- 47. In connection with bedding equipment of trains a net profit equal to that of the previous year was also maintained.
- 48. The working of the grain elevators for the financial year 1931-’32 resulted in a deficit of £59,000, while the year 1932-’33 ended with a deficit of only £9,391.
- 49. This improvement was brought about by increased activities, particularly during the last quarter of the financial year when a marked increase took place in the quantities of maize exported, and the increased volume of wheat handled through the elevator system.
- 50. The total quantity of maize and kafir corn dealt with through the elevator system for the current season up to the 31st March last amounted to 479,552 tons.
- 51. This represents an increase of 39 per cent. over the previous year.
- 52. Of this total tonnage, 321,422 tons were exported, representing an increase of 140,822 tons over the previous year.
- 53. A gratifying feature of the season’s working has been the increased tonnage of maize shipments to Canada.
- 54. On the termination of the Ottawa conference, as hon. members will remember, the embargo on the importation of South African maize into Canada was removed, with the result that approximately 104,000 tons of maize have been exported through the elevator system to Canada this season, as compared with the previous record of 86,000 tons.
- 55. The wheat crop this last season was a record one in all areas in the Union, the total quantity deposited in the elevators amounting to 871,434 bags, as compared with 175,592 bags deposited during the previous year.
- 56. Normally, all the 1931-’32 season’s wheat was due to be cleared from the elevators by the end of October, 1932, but owing to the supply being in excess of the demand, there were over half a million bags of wheat still in the elevators at that date.
- 57. On representations being made by the wheat pool board on the difficulty of disposing of the wheat at a reasonable price, the Administration agreed to extend the storage period at the ordinary scale of storage charges, and in consideration of this concession the Administration was indemnified against all losses which might be sustained through deterioration of or damage to the wheat.
- 58. The road motor services continue to fill an important role in the transport system of the country, without which primary producers not directly served by railways would be practically cut off from markets.
- 59. In addition to light traffic, the transport of large quantities of heavy traffic such as maize, wheat, wool and fruit traffic has been undertaken. To mention just one instance in this connection:
- 60. A heavy road motor transport service for the conveyance of wheat crops was introduced in the Heidelberg (Cape) area during the first week of December last, since when many thousands of bags of wheat have been carried direct from the farms to the railway station at Heidelberg.
- 61. Where formerly, the farmers had to rely on small lorries doing numerous trips to and from with average loads of only 20 bags per trip, the railway administration’s large powerful lorries, with two trailers attached, have been moving wheat at the rate of 150 to 200 bags per trip.
- 62. The bulk transport of such large quantities of wheat has come as a pleasant surprise to the farmers, who agree that it has relieved them of a good deal of the worry and trouble connected with the transport of small lots by private lorries.
- 63. The provisions of the Motor Carrier Transportation Act have been the means of eliminating unfair and wasteful competition in a number of areas, though there are still some areas where the position is unsatisfactory.
- 64. Owing to the financial stringency and hardship experienced by farmers, a large number have resorted to transport as a means of livelihood. Competition from this service has assumed alarming proportions, and the Administration is finding it extremely difficult to retain an adequate measure of support from primary producers and country storekeepers, owing to the exceptionally low rates charged by these carriers, whose operating costs are naturally very low—donkeys are employed in the majority of cases.
- 65. The increase in these competitive services must be attributed to the difficult conditions to which the farming community is to-day subjected, but with the prospect of a return to better times it is hoped that this competition will cease.
- 66. On the whole the road conditions have improved, but many roads still remain in a very unsatisfactory condition, the provincial authorities having been hampered by lack of funds.
- 67. Financially, the road motor services have paid their way, the year 1932-’33 having ended with a surplus of £4,789, which represents an improvement of £1,452 over the previous year.
- 68. Like other services, the earnings of the road motor services were affected adversely by the prevailing depression, but effective steps were taken to keep down working costs, as far as possible, in consonance with the drop in revenue.
- 69. An outstanding feature of the year’s working is, that in spite of the severe drought experienced in many areas suitable for dairy farming, the quantity of cream conveyed is the highest on record, the figures in this respect being 959,115 gallons, compared with the previous record of 944,780 gallons.
- 70. In regard to the Administration’s tourist service, as was naturally to be expected, bearing in mind the factors which occasioned stagnation everywhere throughout the world, the flow of visitors from overseas registered a shortfall in the year 1932-’33 as compared with the figures for the preceding year.
- 71. The number of holiday and business visitors for the year 1932-’33 totalled 6,701 as against 7,953 for the previous year—a reduction of 1,252.
- 72. In spite of this reduction, however, it is pleasing to record that, financially, a slight profit, corresponding more or less to the results obtained for the preceding financial year, was obtained for the year 1932-’33.
- 73. There are abundant indications that the Kruger National Park is being recognized more and more, as an outstanding national travel asset. To-day, not only is the interest of South Africans growingly centred on this wild life sanctuary, but prospective holidaymakers in America, Great Britain, and elsewhere are indicating, by their enquiries, the rapidly increasing cognizance taken of the park throughout the world.
- 74. Conditions in the area are continually being improved—the comfort and convenience of visitors thus being advanced, and it is safe to predict that as the years progress, the park will prove an even more powerful magnet, whereby sight-seeing tourist traffic from overseas is largely attracted.
- 75. The Drakensberg National Park and holiday playgrounds thereabouts are likewise steadily advancing in public popularity, so much so, indeed, that at certain periods of the year, the available hostel accommodation is taxed to its utmost.
- 76. In its publicity literature, the Administration kept the Kruger National Park and Drakensberg holiday fields well in the lime-light.
- 77. The Administration, through its publicity and travel department, co-operates widely and harmoniously with a large number of tourist agencies throughout civilised countries in all parts of the world.
- 78. This measure of collaboration is consistently registering an upward trend, and a solid basis of working continues to be laid, which must, in years to come, yield results of great importance to South Africa.
- 79. To summarize the foregoing, the position is that at the 31st March, 1933, the Administration is faced with an accumulated deficit of £3,694,482
- 80. This deficit has been financed from the Administration’s general balances, and the question of its liquidation is a matter to which I will refer at a later stage.
- 81. In the meantime I would just like to say that the period covered by the three financial years ended March last, has been one of almost unprecedented decrease in the earnings of our railways, and a period of the greatest anxiety to those who were in control and were responsible for their administration.
- 82. Revenue in the last of those 3 years was lower than the year 1929-’30 by no less than £6,630,457. This speaks for itself.
- 83. It is true, that we are now faced with an accumulated deficit of comparatively large proportions, but notwithstanding this, I am sure honourable members will agree, that everything which it was humanly possible to do, to cope with the position, was done by the management, under the exceptionally able guidance of our late Minister of Railways.
84. Turning now to the
for the year 1933-’34, I propose to deal first of all with the estimated expenditure; then with the estimated revenue; and finally with the difference between the two; that is with the estimated net result.
- 85. Dealing then with the estimated expenditure, I would invite hon. members to refer to the printed Estimates of Expenditure from Revenue Funds, which were laid on the table a few days ago, from which it will be seen that the expenditure for the year is estimated to amount to £25,716,281 made up of:—Railways, £24,320,418; harbours, £1,298,270; steamships, £97,593. Total, £25,716,281.
- 86. Compared with the estimates for the previous year, this represents a decrease of £350,371 sub-divided as follows:—On account of railways, £253,328; on account of harbours, £83,388; and on account of steamships, £13,655. Total, £350,371.
- 87. Before going into detail, I think it would be as well, at this stage, to mention two factors which require to be borne in mind when making a comparison between the two sets of estimates, because they affect such a comparison in its entirety.
- 88. The two factors are:—Firstly—the additional expenditure provided in the estimates for 1933-’34, by reason of the discontinuance of the temporary wage deduction; secondly—the benefit derived from the decision to cancel the Administration’s annual payment to the Treasury for interest on capital expenditure from pre-Union revenue.
- 89. It so happens that the additional expenditure involved is practically nullified by the savings in interest charges, with, however, this distinction, that while the additional expenditure brought about by the discontinuance of the temporary wage deduction affects almost every individual wage account, the saving on account of reduction in interest payments affects only one account, namely, the net revenue account.
- 90. The decrease of £253,328 under railways, is made up of:—
Net revenue account, £324,996; subsidiary services, £117,535; betterment fund, £50,000. Gross decrease, £492,531. Less increased expenditure on account of—Transportation services, £239,203; leaving a net decrease, as I have mentioned, of £253,328. - 91. The increase of £239,203 on account of transportation services consists, in turn, of:— Increases under—Maintenance of way and works, £95,326; running and traffic expenses, £120,942; superannuation, £117,505; or a gross increase of £333,773. And the decreases occur under—General charges, £5,689; maintenance of rolling stock, £56,978; cartage services, £31,903—£94,570; or a net increase of £239,203.
- 92. The increase of £95,326 contemplated under maintenance of way and works, is brought about, principally, by the provision made for the cost of additional sleepers, rails, and other permanent way material required for renewals of the track, and also to cover the cost of enlarged fishplates, the introduction of which, it is claimed, will result in reduced track maintenance costs in the future.
- 93. In this connection, it may interest hon. members to learn that after rails have been in the track a number of years, the fishplates become loose, due to wear on the contact surfaces, the ends of the rails at the joints, under the constant hammer blows of the wheels, become dipped and, eventually, do much damage to engines and rolling stock.
- 94. The “dipped ’ joint is a source of annoyance to passengers, and a source of expense to the Administration, as a track with “dipped” joints requires very much more attention and maintenance than a track that is uniformly level throughout.
- 95. The Administration’s engineers, however, have developed a method of treating these joints, which, by bending up the end of the rail until it is straight, and inserting new fishplates, suitably enlarged, to take up all the wear, secures a marked improvement in both smooth running and maintenance costs.
- 96. It is hoped, that if this method proves as successful as is anticipated from trials already made, rails will be kept in the track considerably longer than they are at present.
- 97. The Administration has also been experimenting on repairs to points and crossings by electric welding, and, from the experience gained so far, it is hoped that fairly substantial reductions in maintenance costs in future will flow from the result of these experiments.
98. The increased expenditure provided for under running and traffic expenses is occasioned mainly by the discontinuance of the temporary wage deductions.
- 99. The train and engine mileage for 1933-’34 is expected to be less than that provided for in the original estimates for 1932-’33, by 3,170,760 miles or 6.01 per cent.
- 100. This lesser mileage has been brought about by an intensive curtailment and reorganization of train services in every possible direction, commensurate, of course, with the requirements of the public, and approximates the actual train and engine mileage of the year just completed (1932-’33).
- 101. Cognisance has not been lost of the fact, that the traffic to be handled during the year 1933 ’34, is expected to exceed that of the previous year. The bulk of this additional traffic is, however, expected to flow in the direction in which trucks had, of necessity, to be run empty, or only partially loaded, during 1932-’33. On this account it is anticipated that the train and engine mileage estimated will be sufficient to transport all traffic offering.
102. Under traffic expenses, provision is made for additional expenditure on account of the Administration’s contribution towards overseas advertising.
103. In connection with the increase of £117,505 provided for under superannuation, the late Minister in introducing his estimates last year, intimated, that staff, who were found to be spare, were being allowed, in certain circumstances, to relinquish their appointments and receive the benefits to which they were entitled. This resulted in increased expenditure from revenue funds under the head of superannuation, which, of course, has its counterpart in a reduction in the wages vote under other heads.
104. As already intimated, the estimates for railways provide for decreased expenditure, totalling £94,570, under general charges, maintenance of rolling stock and cartage services. These decreases are arrived at after making provision for additional expenditure, due to the discontinuance of the temporary wage deductions, and, but for such additional expenditure, the savings would be much greater.
105. The amount provided in the estimates for the contribution to renewals fund on account of depreciation, represents 7½ per cent. of the estimated revenue for the year. This conforms to the principle introduced last year, that when the contribution, calculated on the estimated life of the assets, amounts to more than 7½ per cent. of the revenue, the contribution shall be limited to 7½ per cent. of the revenue.
- 106. A reference to the estimates of expenditure under the head of subsidiary services discloses that decreases are reflected which total £117,535.
- 107. Reduced business and general economies in working permit of provision for less expenditure than was provided in the estimate for last year.
- 108. This decrease in expenditure has its counterpart in a reduction in the revenue anticipated to accrue on these services during the financial year 1933-’34.
- 109. Under net revenue account, it will be observed that, compared with the estimates of last year, provision is made for a net decrease of £324,996.
- 110. Actually, provision is made under this head for increases to cover:—Interest charges on additional capital met from loan funds, £16,790; interest charges on increased superannuation and other fund balances, £36,530; additional miscellaneous net revenue charges, to cover, principally, the cost of withdrawing assets which have served their purpose and are no longer required, £52,545; or a total increase of £105,865.
- 111. But this increase of £105,865 has been more than offset by a saving, with effect from the 1st April, 1933, of £430,861 in interest on capital payable by the Administration to the Treasury.
- 112. The amount of £430,861, mentioned, represents the railway proportion of an amount of £459,840, being interest at 3½ per cent. per annum on an amount of £13,000,000 odd, expended on capital works out of revenue prior to Union.
- 113. Despite this relief, the Railway Adminitration is still called upon to meet a charge for interest on capital of nearly six million pounds per annum, a figure which is constantly increasing as additional assets are brought into service.
- 114. I mention this figure, in passing, to indicate to hon. members the extent of the “standing charge,” for interest on capital alone, that the Administration has to face each year.
115. For the betterment fund, a contribution of £50,000 is provided. This is only half the i sum contributed last year, but, taking into account the balance standing to the credit of this fund, it is considered that the amount provided will be sufficient for the anticipated expenditure on betterment works, for the current year.
- 116. Coming now to harbours, it will be noticed that provision is made for a total decrease in expenditure of £83,388.
- 117. In this decrease, provision is made for a reduction of £28,979 on account of interest on capital. This is the harbour proportion of the annual amount of £459,840, waived by the Treasury.
- 118. The balance of the decrease is due to economies effected in connection with the maintenance of assets and operating expenses.
119. In regard to the Administration’s steamships, there is a decrease of £13,655, brought about, principally, by a reduction in charges at the various overseas ports of call.
- 120. I mentioned, at the outset, that the total expenditure for all services for the coming year is estimated to be £25,716,281 and that, compared with the estimates for last year, this represents a decrease of £350,371.
- 121. In order that hon. members may appreciate the full magnitude of the alterations that occur in the estimates now before the House, I will briefly summarise the most important of the causes responsible for the decrease of £350,371 in the expenditure.
- 122. First of all, the decreases amount to £1,322,000, the details being:—Non-payment of interest on capital met from pre-Union revenue, £459,800; changes in personnel and reduced staff, £416,600; reduction in overtime payments and travelling expenses, £53,500; reduced requirements of running stores and equipment, £42,400; reduced requirements of other stores, stationery and printing, £53,700; non-recurring expenditure on washaways, £50,700; reduced contribution to betterment fund, £50,000; reduced expenditure on jetties, wharves and floating craft, £44,600; reduced expenditure on subsidiary services and steamships, £150,700. Total decrease, £1,322,000.
- 123. On the other hand, it has been necessary to provide for increases totalling £971,600 on account of:—Discontinuance of temporary wage deductions, £401,600; superannuation payments from revenue, £119,700; increments to staff, £150,100; increased requirements of rails and sleepers—for maintenance of track, £110,600; interest on additional loan funds and fund balances, £54,600; decreased recoveries from new works, £46,900; electric traction power, £21,400; overseas advertising, £8,900; contribution to renewals fund for additional harbour assets, £5,200; withdrawal of assets from service and other miscellaneous expenditure under net revenue account, £52,600; total increases, £971,600; leaving a net decrease of £350,400.
- 124. Turning now to the estimates of revenue for the year 1933-’34—
- 125. If hon. members will refer to the green book, they will see that we anticipate a total revenue, from all sources, of £25,852,395.
- 126. This is estimated to be derived from—
Railways |
£24,478,820 |
Harbours |
1,273,550 |
Steamships |
100,025 |
Total |
£25,852,395 |
- 127. Dealing first with the amount pertaining to railways, it is estimated that £22,168,000 will be earned in respect of transportation services alone.
- 128. This figure of £22,168,000 is based on a weekly average return of £425,000, and this figure corresponds to the weekly average anticipated when the estimates for last year (1932-’33) were framed, but, compared with the actual earnings of that year, is an increase of, per week, £29,700.
- 129. In providing for this increase of £29,700 per week, over the actual earnings of the past year, we are guided by the upward trend that has already taken place in earnings during the last three months, an improvement which, there is reason to believe, will continue throughout the year.
- 130. Increased activity is indicated in a number of industries, particularly in gold and coal mines.
- 131. Naturally, this will have its reflex in the earnings of the railways, and it is felt, therefore, that we are not over-optimistic in allowing for a return equal to an average of £425,000 per week.
132. In regard to the subsidiary services, it is anticipated that the revenue to accrue during 1933-’34 will slightly exceed the actual revenue earned during the year just ended, and provision has been made accordingly.
- 133. For harbours, the revenue anticipated is based on a weekly average of £23,100 which, compared with the corresponding actual earnings for the year 1932-’33, represents an increase per week, of approximately £2,500.
- 134. The revival in trade that has taken place justifies the opinion that harbour earnings for 1933-’34 will exceed, to the extent indicated, those of the previous year.
- 135. Compared with the year 1932 ’33, a slight improvement in the revenue to be derived from our steamships during the current year is anticipated.
- 136. The estimates provide for the operation of three units. On outward voyages the principle will be observed, as in the past, of assisting the South African coal export trade as far as possible.
- 137. The possibility of using the S.S. “Dahlia” for the conveyance of South African cattle to Europe, is expected to be a feature of outward voyages.
- 138. On return voyages, the vessels will be employed partly in transporting cargoes of Government material from Europe and elsewhere, and partly for the conveyance of private cargo to South Africa and other suitable points en route.
- 139. Coming now to the estimated final results for 1933 ’34, that is, the difference between the estimated revenue and expenditure, hon. members will have noted that, for the year ending 31st March, 1934—revenue is anticipated to amount to £25,852,395, and that expenditure, to earn that revenue, is estimated to amount to £25,716,281, and so we expect that the year 1933 ’34 will result in a surplus of £136,114.
- 140. If this surplus is realized, then the accumulated deficit, at the 31st March, 1934, will be £3,558,368.
- 141. As previously intimated, this deficit has been financed from our general balances. It will continue to be so financed until such time as it is found possible to liquidate it from future surpluses in working.
- 142. Faced then, as we are, with having to wipe out this accumulated deficit of just over £3,500,000, from future surpluses, hon. members will appreciate, I am sure, that our policy must necessarily continue to be one of extreme caution.
- 143. Having indicated the financial prospects of the ensuing year, I will now deal with other matters of a relevant nature.
- 144. First of all, I want to refer to the several funds controlled by the administration.
- 145. The renewals fund had a credit balance at 31st March, 1933, of £4,218,091, against which there are, at the moment, definite commitments totalling £1,073,008.
- 146. The figures I have quoted indicate an improvement in the financial position of the fund, compared with the credit balance at the corresponding date of the previous year, when it was £3,364,005 and the commitments £1,537,365.
- 147. The prospect of increased traffic and the consequently greater use of our assets will, of course, result in increased calls on the renewals fund, to keep such assets up to their full revenue-earning capacity, but it is considered that such calls can be met without any financial embarrassment.
- 148. The balance at credit of the pension and superannuation funds at 31st March last, was £17,910,317, the respective balances, due to the different, funds being—
To the pension fund |
£2,149.615 |
To the superannuation fund |
15,047,881 |
To the Cape widows pension fund (railways |
712,821 |
Total |
£17,910,317 |
- 149. The interest derived from the investment of these fund balances with the public debt commissioners averages a little more than 4½ per cent.
- 150. During the financial year which ended on the 31st March, 1933, the administration paid from revenue funds, on account of pensions and gratuities, £ for £ contributions, and contributions towards the liquidation of the deficiencies of the pension and superannuation funds, the total amount of £1,215,656.
- 151. This was greater than the amount for the previous year, by reason of the larger numbers of staff retired before the statutory age of superannuation.
- 152. Many servants who were retired before the superannuation age, availed themselves of the opportunity of commuting a portion of their pension. In this connection a special Act (No. 16 of 1932) was passed, authorizing the Administration to advance from the superannuation funds, such sums as may be required, from time to time, to pay the commuted portions of annuities, which are chargeable to revenue. These advances are repaid to the funds in monthly instalments, during the period between the date of retirement of the servant concerned, and the date upon which he attains the prescribed age of superannuation.
- 153. This arrangement avoids the disturbing effect that would take place if the lump sum payment formed a charge against the accounts of the year concerned.
- 154. The balance outstanding at the credit of the betterment fund at the 31st March last was £110,928.
- 155. As it is not anticipated that works chargeable against this fund will he of the same magnitude as in former years, it has been decided, as I have already stated, to reduce the contribution for the year 1933-’34, from £100,000 to £50,000.
- 156. The Administration’s general insurance fund covers all insurable assets, except a few minor items, for which insurance is placed with outside companies.
- 157. The credit balance of the fund at the 31st March last was £959,069, a decrease of £166,878 compared with the previous year, This decrease has been brought about entirely by the disastrous fire which occurred at Salt River recently. The fund’s liability in that connection amounts to no less a sum than £240,000.
- 158. Viewed in the light of the total value of the insurable assets covered, viz., £41,000,000, this balance cannot be regarded as in any way excessive.
- 159. The establishment of what is termed the rates equalization fund from railway and har bour revenue, as hon. members are probably aware, is permitted by the South Africa Act, and it has been the practice to contribute towards this fund from any surpluses that accrued from time to time.
- 160. At the moment, however, there is no amount standing to the credit of this fund, the last balance having been utilized in part liquidation of the deficit in working at 31st March, 1931.
- 161. The sick fund, which is maintained by contributions from the Administration’s servants, and by contributions from the Administration equal to 75 per cent. of the servants’ contributions, continues to show satisfactory financial results, the year ended 31st March last showing an excess of revenue over expenditure of £4,721.
- 162. The capital and betterment estimates for 1933-’34 are, at present, under consideration.
- 163. The extent to which future commitments can be entered into, must be governed by the funds available.
- 164. The proposals, submitted by the officers responsible, will be subjected to the closest examination, and only those works which cannot be postponed, or those to which we are already committed, will be placed on the estimates.
- 165. The proposals that are selected will be listed in detail and made available later on in the session.
- 166. I will now refer briefly to some of the outstanding features connected with the operation of the railways and harbours, which, I think, will be found interesting.
- 167. The improvement that has taken place during recent months in the operation of the gold mining industry, it is anticipated, will result in increased capital expenditure on the Witwatersrand in connection with shaft sinking, machinery, equipment, etc. There is also the probability of prospecting and opening up of low grade mines in the Klerksdorp, Barberton and Pilgrims Rest districts.
- 168. The incidence of these operations should be reflected in increased traffic to be transported over the railways.
- 169. In regard to coal, the quantity exported and utilized for bunkering has fallen away tremendously during the last few years, but there are already indications that an improvement may be anticipated for the current year with, of course, beneficial results to the railways, not only in respect of revenue for coal transported, but through the incidence of increased activities at the coal mines.
- 170. Facilities were provided by the Railway Administration—on a guaranteed basis—for the conveyance of manganese ore from the Postmasburg district to Durban for shipment overseas, and, by those facilities, material assistance was given in the development of an important industry.
- 171. The dispatch of ore from Postmasburg to Durban, for export, commenced in June, 1930, and substantial tonnages were forwarded for some months.
- 172. Unfortunately, towards the latter part of 1931, quantities offered for transport were curtailed and, in October, 1931, were entirely suspended. Since that date only odd consignments have been transported for export.
- 173. Various factors have contributed towards the inability of the Manganese Corporation to continue operations, and the prospects of their being able to do so in the near future are, at the moment, very problematical.
- 174. As regards other minerals, whilst generally speaking, there are indications that an improvement over last year will take place in production and output, it is not possible to estimate, with any degree of confidence, the extent to which railway earnings will be affected by such improvement.
- 175. In connection with the manufacturing industries, reports indicate that increased employment has taken place in the larger centres of the Union, and that a material increase in the Union’s export trade, particularly to the Rhodesian markets, may be anticipated during the current year.
- 176. A distinct revival in trade has already taken place in general merchandise, and from reports received, there is every reason to believe that the improvement will continue throughout the rest of the year.
- 177. Agriculture, particularly maize and wheat, has had a setback on account of the prolonged drought and the effects of the foot and mouth disease. For these reasons, no material improvement in this class of traffic can be contemplated.
- 178. Increased traffic might, however, be expected to take place in respect of sugar and fruit, the indications being that the output for this year will show an improvement over last year.
- 179. Under the auspices of the Agricultural Department, several consignments of chilled meat were forwarded during last year from Johannesburg for shipment to Great Britain. An experiment was made of conveying this traffic in ice-cooled trucks, and proved an unqualified success. The meat was conveyed in these trucks at a more or less uniform temperature of 32 degrees throughout the journey from Newtown to Table Bay docks.
- 180. This means of conveyance has proved quite efficient for the purpose of transporting chilled meat over journeys up to 75 hours, and, indeed, the surplus of ice remaining in the bunkers at the end of each journey indicates that even longer journeys could be undertaken, without the necessity of replenishing the bunkers.
- 181. The foot and mouth disease, to a certain extent, adversely affected this trade, owing to the restrictions applied to imports into the Union from Southern Rhodesia and the Bechu-analand Protectorate, and, on this account, it is difficult to forecast the volume of traffic that may be expected.
- 182. It is, however, fully anticipated that there will be a marked development in the chilled meat export trade.
- 183. Considerable quantities of chilled beef for export are now being dispatched from Bulawayo to Table Bay docks.
- 184. The prospects in regard to the export of fruit this year are good, the preference given to Empire fruits in Great Britain being sure to result in increased exports to that market.
- 185. I might also state that a new market is being developed in India for South African deciduous fruits, with good results.
- 186. During January this year, there was a heavy demand for rolling stock on account of the large quantities of wool, maize, wheat, forage, and lucerne offering for transport, otherwise no difficulty has been experienced in meeting all requirements for trucks throughout last year, the supply of vehicles being in excess of the demand. Although 400 new wagons were ordered during the year, they were merely to replace wastage.
- 187. The Administration is continuing the policy of catering for passenger traffic by means of rail cars, on sections where the volume of traffic does not justify the expenditure of running a frequent service of passenger trains. There are 25 rail cars operating on 22 services. These cars are of 150 h.p. or less, and it is not the intention to proceed with the construction of any more comparatively light cars of this type, until some experience has been gained of the performance of the two high power cars now under construction. These will be 300 h.p. and 450 h.p., respectively, and it is expected they will be handed over by the Administration’s workshops for service towards the end of the present calendar year.
- 188. Due to lack of expansion and curtailment of services, no new road motor vehicles were purchased during the last financial year.
- 189. In this connection, the Administration is keeping in close touch with the development of other than petrol vehicles in other parts of the world, especially the experiments which are being conducted with crude oil machines.
- 190. Motor repair shops have been established at Johannesburg, Kimberley, Cape Town, Port Elizabeth, East London, Durban and Bloemfontein. These shops, where practically all repairs to motor vehicles owned by the Administration are undertaken, are functioning very satisfactorily, and have been the means of materially reducing the cost of reconditioning plant.
- 191. A large percentage of worn parts are reclaimed from vehicles sent in for overhauling, and these, after having been reconditioned, are made use of when effecting repairs to plant.
- 192. During the financial year 1932-’33, the 1929 programme of new railway construction was finished, by the completion of the Dordrecht deviation, 8½ miles in length, which was opened for traffic on the 19th October last.
- 193. The entire work on the Mimosa-Alicedale deviation, which covers 19½ miles, is expected to be completed during the current financial year, including the four bridges over the Bushman’s River.
- 194. On the Kleinstraat-Matroosberg loop line, which extends for 7½ miles, the earthworks, the concrete work and the fencing are well advanced, and the whole work will probably be completed towards the end of this financial year.
- 195. In terms of the agreement entered into with the S.A. Iron and Steel Industrial Corporation, the construction of the Northam-Kwaggashoek line extension of 28 miles is to be completed to coincide with the commencement of operations at the iron and steel works. The construction is now well in hand. It is expected that the work will be completed by the beginning of next year.
- 196. In connection with the Point-Congella relief line, which consists of 1¾ miles of double track, in order to ease the unemployment position, arrangements have been made with the Labour Department, to finance the employment of between 300 and 400 European labourers. This work involves a certain amount of reclamation and is not expected to be completed during the current financial year.
- 197. In order to facilitate the use by the Railway Administration of the unemployed relief labour offered free of cost by the Department of Labour, authority was given for the work to be commenced in September last, on the construction of a loop line from Germiston to Elsburg. The line in question is purely a local traffic facility to relieve the congestion in Germiston station yard. The construction was authorized by Parliament during last session under Act No. 3, 1933. Rapid progress is being made, and it is anticipated the line will be ready for traffic operations before the close of the current financial year.
- 198. The newly-electrified section from Masons Mill to Cato Ridge, which was opened in February, 1932, has, from an operating point of view, been an unqualified success. Owing, however, to the heavy decline of traffic on the Natal main line, the full benefit from the facilities provided has not been obtained, but there is no doubt that the scheme will amply justify itself when normal trade conditions are resumed.
- 199. The mileage added to the electrified section in Natal, as a result of this extension, represents approximately 26 route miles, which brings the total length of railway line electrified in Natal to 200¼ route miles.
- 200. An outstanding feature of the extension was the low construction cost of the railway portion of the work, i.e., the overhead equipment and track bonding. This amounted to approximately £1,348 per mile of equivalent single track, as against a cost of more than twice that sum for similar work on the Glencoe-Pietermaritzburg section constructed under contract. The reduction was achieved principally by the adoption by the Administration of a less expensive, but, as experience has proved, equally effective type of equipment.
- 201. It has been decided to proceed with the electrification of the section of the Cape western main line, between Salt River and Bellville, which is approximately 10 miles in length. This is an extension of the Cape Town-Salt River section, which is already operated under electrification conditions.
- 202. The operating efficiency of the line between Cape Town and Bellville will be considerably improved, and, being electrically operated, the local passenger service will provide quicker and a more attractive service. This should encourage additional passenger traffic.
- 203. The capital expenditure in connection with the scheme is estimated at approximately £42,000, whilst it is anticipated there will be a saving in operating costs of approximately £16,000 per annum, as compared with steam working.
- 204. Goods trains, through main line passenger trains, and local services to areas beyond Bellville, will continue to be worked by steam locomotives.
- 205. The results of working the Cape Town-Simonstown section for the twelve months ended February last, show an improvement over corresponding period of the previous year, the loss amounting to £153,200, as compared with £178,000 for 1931-’32, or a reduced loss of £24,800 for the year.
- 206. An interesting feature of the returns is that the passenger traffic on the Cape Town-Wynberg section reflected an increase, whereas, on the section Wynberg-Simonstown, the reverse was the case. The improvement on the former section was brought about chiefly by the elimination of road transport services in excess of public requirements, and the introduction of “feeder” bus services between specified termini and railway stations on the Mowbray-Plumstead section.
- 207. Representations have been made, from time to time, in regard to the elimination of the level crossing at President Street, Germiston, over which there is a very heavy road and rail traffic.
- 208. A scheme was formulated to provide a subway for pedestrian traffic, and as the Germiston municipality agreed to bear half the cost of the construction, the Administration decided to proceed with the work.
- 209. As a result of the Johannesburg municipality having established a large modern township for natives between Canada Junction and Nancefield on the Canada-Vereeniging line, the Administration has built a new station, which is known as " Orlando,” to serve the township.
- 210. A train service, to suit the needs of the new residents, has been introduced and will be increased as the township develops.
- 211. In August, 1932, occupation was taken of the new station buildings, Johannesburg, and hon. members will agree that the structure is one of which we can be proud.
- 212. In connection with refrigerator services, introduced for the conveyance of fresh meat, butter and other goods of a highly perishable nature, I may state that, owing to lack of patronage, the Oudtshoorn-Cape Town butter refrigerator services had to be reduced to once per fortnight at the beginning of the year, while the Darling-Cape Town refrigerator service was withdrawn in the middle of January last.
- 213. In order to improve the facilities for the conveyance of cream in the Orange Free State, refrigerator trucks have been utilized with beneficial results, and all concerned have expressed themselves as being highly satisfied with the arrangement.
- 214. With the object of assisting in the checking of the spread of the foot-and-mouth disease, the Administration co-operated with the veterinary authorities for the special cleaning of trucks working south from Mafeking.
- 215. This disinfecting operation has been carried out since the end of January last.
- 216. At the beginning of this calendar year, an alteration was made in connection with charges raised for the conveyance of tourists’ motor cars, and full advantage has been taken by the public of this concession.
- 217. A considerable amount of thought is being devoted to ways and means of improving the conditions of rail travel for natives, and thus encouraging greater use of the Administration’s transport facilities.
- 218. The services of inspectors are being used for the purpose of ascertaining requirements. Valuable suggestions have been received, many of which have been put into effect and will add to the amenities of travel.
- 219. Turning now to matters connected with the staff, the anxiety occasioned by the financial position of recent years has continued to have an effect upon the staff position.
- 220. During the past year, many members of the staff were rendered redundant, owing to the restriction in the Administration’s activities, and, after providing for replacement of normal wastage due to deaths, resignations, retirements at age limit, dismissals, etc., there remained a large number of units for whom work was not available.
- 221. Owing to the depressed state of the open labour market, the stagnation in the normal flow of promotion, and the hardship that would follow upon the retirement of comparatively young members of the permanent staff, the Administration decided that, as far as practicable, retirement should be made from amongst staff who were within measurable approach of the normal retiring age, the majority of whom were entitled to pension benefits of a more favourable character than their younger colleagues.
- 222. A departure from the normal policy has been introduced in the grades of staff classified in the artisan pay schedules at the instance of the staff association representing their interests, on whose representations it was agreed in August, 1931, that the junior men in any grade, carrying redundant men, should be the first to be selected for retirement, subject to his being given an option to revert to lower grade work.
- 223. For the purpose of applying the agreement, each workshop centre acts independently of other workshop centres in dealing with its redundant staff.
- 224. At the end of March last, the total staff in the service of the Administration numbered 77,776.
- 225. This represents a reduction of 8,634 compared with March of the previous year, and is made un of—
Graded staff |
3,165 |
European labourers |
100 |
Non-European labourers |
5,369 |
Total reduction |
8,634 |
- 226. The improvement that has taken place in the prospects for this year has enabled the Administration to relax certain of the staff economy measures which have been in force for some time.
- 227. For instance, as from the beginning of this financial year—
- 228. Whilst the Government would have liked to restore all the conditions affected by the economy measures taken, it must necessarily be guided in this respect by the state of the finances of the Administration, and the particular fact that there is a large accumulated deficit to be wiped out before normal working conditions can be accepted.
- 229. Committees of enquiry were set up some time ago to investigate methods of working in operation in each of the various departments.
- 230. The object of these committees has been to achieve elimination of unnecessary work and expensive methods of operation, the better use and control of staff employed, and the more efficient co-ordination of railway operation as a whole.
- 231. These committees have accomplished very valuable work, and substantial economies have resulted.
- 232. The Administration has actively pursued the ideal of having a fully bilingual staff, in order that the requirements of the public may be adequately served.
- 233. Various facilities are extended to the staff to assist and encourage them in securing the necessary proficiency in both official languages, and it is pleasing to record that the response of the staff as a whole has been excellent.
- 234. Each year reveals a distinct improvement in the situation, demonstrating that the efforts of the Administration in this matter are bearing fruit, and that the staff themselves are more and more appreciating their responsibility towards the users of the railways.
- 235. In 1931, the head of the railway police was retired on pension. The Administration, as an economy measure, decided not to fill this post, being of the opinion that, under the decentralized system introduced in 1929, efficiency could be maintained without a chief inspector. This assumption has, however, proved mistaken.
- 236. It was consequently decided to fill the vacant post by the appointment of Lt.-Col. A. A. Celliers, head of the Union Criminal Investigation Department. Col. Celliers will concentrate on developing the detective side of the railway police, which at present is weak.
- 237. The post of appeals officer, vacant since 1931, was recently filled by the appointment of Advocate A. H. Broeksma, junior law adviser to the Department of Justice. Mr. Broeksma will also act as the departmental legal adviser to the Administration.
- 238. He is at present investigating the existing system of disciplinary trials and appeals, with a view to co-ordinating such trials and speeding up the appeals.
- 239. On account of Mr. J. R. More, the general manager, being absent on leave prior to retirement, Mr. T. H. Watermeyer was appointed acting general manager, and the position vacated by him was filled in an acting capacity by Mr. G. H. Whitehouse, who will continue to perform also the duties of chief civil engineer.
- 240. For some years past, there has been a demand that we should take stock of the railway position by means of an extra departmental commission. The Government is of opinion that the time is opportune for such an enquiry. Steps will be taken overseas by the Union delegates to the World Economic Conference for the appointment of such a commission, capable of enquiring into and advising on all aspects of the South African railways and harbours.
- 241. In conclusion, I wish to state that the financial year just completed has been even more trying than any previous period during the time of depression through which we have passed, consequently there has been a continuous strain on the staff of the railways and harbours.
- 242. I am sure, therefore, that this House will desire once more to record its appreciation of the vigilance and unswerving loyalty which has characterized at all times the service of the Administration’s officers, and, in fact, all grades of the railway and harbours staff.
I should like, in speaking to the motion before the House, to commend especially the budget statements which we have just heard, and also to commend the painstaking and careful manner in which they have been put before us for our consideration. I should also like to congratulate the Minister who has just sat down on the manner in which he has presented the first statement of this kind that he has laid before the House. I hope, as I am sure we all hope, that this first statement will be followed by many others, and we all hope that future statements to be submitted by him will show the same improvement in a progressive ratio. With regard to the budget, I have no doubt that many members will desire to offer criticism in certain particulars—I have myself some criticism to offer— but whatever criticism is offered, I feel sure that this House will agree that the Government on the whole have faced the difficult position in which the country is placed with considerable courage and foresight. In some respects I think the Government have faced the position with perhaps too much courage, but I have not the slightest doubt that the hon. member for Benoni (Mr. Madeley) will say that they have shown too little courage, so that on the whole they have probably shown the amount of courage which the circumstances require. Hon. members no doubt wish to peruse with care the statements made by Ministers, and to give us an opportunity of doing so, I would like to ask the Minister to accept a motion for the adjournment of the debate.
On the motion of Mr. Sturrock, the debate was adjourned; to be resumed to-morrow.
Fifth Order read: Second reading, Co-operative Societies (Further Amendment) Bill.
I move—
The amendment now moved by me in the Act on co-operative agricultural societies has been intended to be made for years. More than a year ago I promised the House that I would make important alterations in the Act. There are, therefore, two very important amendments which are now being moved by me. One is to provide for limiting joint and several liability for new members wanting to join co-operative societies, or, as far as possible, to exempt new members from responsibility which has been incurred by old members of that society. The second very big principle which is here proposed by me is to give co-operative societies the right to take as pledges the produce of a farmer got by the help of advances, until the advances have been paid. The complaint was made that co-operative societies are not successful. Let me say at once that that is so in many cases. Very often there is a considerable amount of disappointment in consequence of poor business: in other cases in consequence of the debts of members. It will, however, be seen that the failures that have taken place are not so enormous. When the Co-operative Societies Act was passed we felt that it was necessary for our farmers to act jointly in order to sell their produce. Unfortunately in a country like South Africa where people live so far apart it is not so easy to get co-operation to work successfully. The co-operative societies have not such good supervision over members. There are, therefore, many factors in South Africa in the conditions prevailing which are not existent in countries where the people live close together and co-operation is a great success. Many failures have, therefore, occurred in the past and the Government feels that the time has come for us to make proper enquiry and I will shortly inform the House that a commission is being appointed consisting of a few farmers, business men, and probably a representative of the Department of Agriculture to make en quiries into the work of the co-operative societies, and whether we can continue that system. The commission will have to enquire whether we can continue in the present way and whether the time has possibly come for us to consider whether we can go so far, where necessary, as to sell the produce of the farmers through one and the same channel. The commission will further have to enquire into the working of the Agricultural Credit Act and all such matters. I hope that as I am now introducing these two short amendments of so great importance, they will be accepted until such time as next year we can go into the amendment of the Co-operative Societies Act. Coming now to the joint and several liability, hon. members will agree with me that when the co-operative societies started in South Africa there was a rush to join up with them. But, as I have already said, in some cases there was a lack of leading and also of supervision in the case of those societies, with the result that many of them failed. The Land Bank had to recover the money lent to the people with the result that many farmers were ruined. To-day there are still 19 co-operative societies in liquidation, and it is hard on those people. We want that commission to enquire how far the Government should assist these societies and people. I, therefore, say that the system of joint and several liability as it exists to-day has frightened away many people owing to events in the past. In consequence of the fact that certain farmers have to be sold up for the sake of people who cannot pay, people are becoming frightened. That is one of the reasons why it should be made easier for new members who want to join up with the existing co-operative societies to do so by their not being made liable for the existing debts owing to which they have had no advantage. That was the first cause of members being frightened away. I, therefore, move an amendment in this Act so that where new members join a co-operative society they shall only be liable for the buildings and assets of that society, but that they will not be held liable for overdue loans entered into previously by the societies for advances of seasonal loans, for the supply of seed corn, bags, fertilizer, etc. We, therefore, propose that where the old Act provided that new members should be responsible for all the debts of the societies, whether old debts or not, they shall now be indemnified against liability for debts previously incurred. This is one of the most important amendments contained in the Bill, and a second one in this short Bill is in connection with the right of pledge. As hon. members know, the co-operative societies give advances to members who, e.g., want to buy seed, or bags. But it was always hoped that if such a person bought, say, 1,000 bags of maize that he would deliver those 1,000 bags of maize that he harvested to the society. But it happened that when he delivered his maize a portion of the bags belonged to a bywoner or a friend. That did not always happen, but such cases did occur. And accordingly it is the duty of Parliament to see that when that money is given as an advance the produce in the bags should also be delivered to that co-operative society. The same occurs with fertilizers. If fertilizers are given by way of advance and a large harvest is obtained, then that harvest which is obtained with the assistance of the fertilizers and is delivered to the co-operative society is not always sold through the co-operative society. We feel that it is important that not only bags and fertilizers, but also seed ought to fall under this same provision. If, e.g., seed corn or seed mealies, or any other kind of seed, is delivered by a cooperative society, then the yield ought to be sold through the co-operative society because it has advanced the money and the farmers are jointly responsible for the money that was advanced. We intended to draft the Bill in such a way that when bags, fertilizers or seed were given by way of advance the members who received them should only be liable for the value that they had received, but in drafting the Bill it appeared that there were certain difficulties in the way. The Land Bank would, e.g., in those circumstances not be able to grant any loans. The Land Bank, however, thinks that if a first bond is taken in this way over the proceeds of that produce that the other members are then already protected. But assume that locusts or drought come hon. members will say, then those members will not be able to pay with their harvest and then the land owners, or the few members who keep the co-operative society going, would be ruined. My reply, however, is that the Government has always heretofore given assistance in such circumstances because it felt that co-operation was a sound system, and the Government will not allow the co-operative society to fail in that way. So, e.g., we have the written off £556,000 on mealies this year a writing off of £120.000 on wheat and in 1925 also a writing-off of about a quarter of a million on maize. When co-operative societies were in trouble the Government, therefore have never yet left them in the lurch or allowed people to run into danger owing to the joint liability. It may be that dangers will arise in future, but if they do they can be brought to the notice of the Government which will take the necessary steps. For the moment, however, this point is not of any importance. The object, therefore, is for the produce to be delivered by means of the society and that the society shall be the sole bondholder in respect of that harvest. It may be said that there may also be other creditors possibly who have old claims, and who think that they also are entitled to their share of the yield of such a harvest, but those creditors have done nothing to procure that harvest. We give the co-operative societies the power and assurance here that that produce which has been obtained by their advances shall be, in the first place, used for the repayment of that produce. We go further and make it punishable for any outsider to buy that produce, a step which is necessary to prevent evasion of the law. I do not think it is necessary to go into all the various aspects of this short Bill. I think this Bill is necessary for the farmers who cannot wait until other measures are taken, and I hope hon. members will have no objection. Perhaps the merchants will object that other creditors are deprived of certain rights, viz., of claiming a share of the yield of the produce, but, as I have said, they have no right to claim because the produce was obtained by advances made by the co-operative society which, therefore, has the first claim upon it. This is not the first time that such a thing has been done. We have, e.g., the precedent of the Land Bank which, in certain circumstances, has a right of pledge over certain assets of a farmer, while other creditors do not have the same rights. It is for this reason that we propose to allow the property to remain in the hands of the co-operative societies. The sections are all very clear but if there should be any difficulty, then I am prepared to go into it during the committee stage. I merely want to add that if we want to keep the co-operative societies and to see that they are a success then we must encourage them to get new members who will not be obliged to be jointly liable for the debts of the past. We want to encourage them by assisting them to give advances, or bags, fertilizers, etc., as encouragement to new members. It is certain that co-operative societies, notwithstanding all the criticism of them, have carried many outsiders on their backs. What, e.g., would have become of the prices of agricultural produce if the societies had not seen to it that the prices were kept up as much as possible? If those societies had not been in existence then I fear the prices of agricultural produce would have been lowered a little. Take, e.g., maize, the price would probably have been that of the world market, and that would have been a disastrous position for our farmers. In spite of all the mistakes that have been made, our co-operative societies have contributed to the improvement of the prices of produce over what they otherwise would have been. If the flaws which there still are in the operation of the Act can be remedied then I think that it will be possible to make a great success of co-operation. I hope, therefore, to appoint a commission which can go into all the flaws, and as a result of that enquiry we can introduce a Bill to amend the existing Acts. I may mention one question here, viz., that of control over the co-operative societies. At the moment we can have the societies inspected and give them advice, that is all the control we have practically, and the societies can refuse to follow the advice. It is our intention that more powers should be given for the exercise of control over the societies so that they can be called to account if it is found that their affairs are not in order. I do not think it is necessary to detain the House any longer.
I am glad to learn from the Minister that he intends appointing a commission to enquire into the working of our Act in connection with co-operative societies. I think every member will admit that it is absolutely necessary to do so, and I do not know, therefore, whether it is not desirable for the Minister not to proceed further in the Bill before the House. The Bill itself looks very simple and innocent and the Minister has represented it in that way, but there are principles incorporated in this Bill which in my opinion are very dangerous to the farmng population, especially the one emphasized here by the Minister, and which is already included in our Land Bank Act, viz., that the co-operative societies shall have a preference on the harvest of the farmers.
Why not?
Because it is dangerous for the farmers. We know that the Land Bank has, so to say, a preference over the stock of the farmers in respect of which money has been advanced. They have the first right on the produce sold by the farmers. Now we are going further with the same principle by applying it to the harvests of the farmers which they obtained by an advance through the cooperative society. This will mean that the farmer will in future have absolutely nothing which he can really call his own. What will be the result? That he will no longer get any credit, and if he can get no credit how will he carry on his daily life? We are going to make it absolutely impossible for him here. If we pass legislation of this kind which so restricts the farmers in connection with his financial affairs it will be impossible for him in future to do anything for his business. We are going to hamper him by this action. I want to make an appeal to the Minister. He said he was appointing a commission to investigate tile whole matter and it is absolutely necessary. It is urgently necessary that it should be done and as quickly as possible, so that we can see how the Co-operative Societies Act can be altered in the interests of the farmers. If that is the impression of the Minister then I say I think we should appeal to him not to proceed with this Bill, but to postpone it so that the investigation can first be made. There is one matter I sympathize with whole-heartedly. You cannot make new members liable for the old debts of a co-operative society. That is a principle in the old Act which has prevented many people from joining up with the societies. They were frightened of the old debts and would not join. Let me tell the Minister that many of our co-operative societies are just now in a very bad financial way and we cannot expect to make a success of those societies unless we put their business on a proper basis. At present the position of the societies is very unsound and I am glad that this amendment is being supported. I want to point out to the Minister that there is a penalty clause in the Bill providing for a fine of £100 if a person is guilty of a contravention of the Act or of doing anything inconsistent with the provisions of the Act. I also notice that certain officials and other officials of the co-operative society will have the right of prosecuting such people. If that is the case then I just want to point out that the farmer might get into a position which he does not know of and may expose himself to a fine of not exceeding £100. That is a wrong principle and one against which I must protest, because I cannot permit its being laid upon the farmer. I feel very strongly against it and I therefore hope that the Minister will not proceed with the Bill as drafted.
As a member of a cooperative society and one interested in it I am very glad to hear the Minister’s statement of his intention later on to appoint a commission to enquire into the working of co-operation generally. I am also glad to hear from the Minister that it will probably be included in the terms of reference for enquiry to be made to what extent produce such as maize can be co-operatively marketed through one channel, to what extent that is possible, or possibly desirable. I am glad because it is clear to me that co-operation can only be a real success if it can control all the produce, in other words if all the produce of a definite kind can be sold through one channel. If we do not get that then I fear that co-operation will be a failure. As for the Bill, before I discuss it in general I would like to draw the attention of the Minister to Clause 1, where apparently certain words have been left out of the Dutch text. If after the word “1933” the words “has become a member of a society”, are not incorporated then the Dutch text does not agree with the English. And, moreover, it will have no meaning. That is just in passing. As for Clause 2 (c), I am very glad of it, viz., that co-operative societies are going to be protected by being given rights of place in cases where they have advanced money, or seed corn, or bags and other requirements to members, because it will undoubtedly encourage the society to advance requirements of this kind to their members. When sales are made it is absolutely in the interests of the co-operative societies to have protection, the question now is merely whether this clause does not go just a little too far. It gives a right of pledge and lays down in paragraph (c) that if there is any further amount due by the member who has received an advance, say, of £5 to his co-operative society, then that member may not be attached by other creditors and his harvest sold. I think here we are going a little too far. Take a case like this, a member possibly owes a society a small amount of £5, his harvest is worth a few hundred pounds, but now no creditor can be allowed to attach his harvest. It would be better procedure if a co-operative society were simply given the preference in the sale of the harvest which had been attached by other creditors. As for the rest of Clause 2 (2), I am glad of the inclusion of that provision. On a former occasion when we were attending a congress in Pretoria on this matter this proposal was made but the authorities would not accept it. I think, however, that the Minister has not gone far enough here. Clause 2 (2) lays down that as long as any amount is due by the member to the society or company in respect of the supply of seed, fertiliser, or bags, no produce which has been obtained through the seed or fertiliser can be disposed of by such member. If the merchant obtains anything from the person otherwise than through the association or with its consent he has contravened the Act. I want the Minister to go further. A member of the co-operative society is obliged to deliver all his produce to the society. It should be a punishable offence for a merchant to buy anything from the member of the co-operative society, not only in the case of the member who is indebted to his co-operative society, but in all cases. I hope the Minister will give further attention to the matter by making the penalties much more, severe than they are. With these few words I welcome this Bill. When we go into committee there may be matters here and there which can possibly be put right. I think that we are all thankful to the Government for the introduction of this Bill.
I agree to a great extent, in accordance with instructions that my co-operative society has given me, with what the previous speaker has said. I just want to emphasize the last words he used, viz., that the entire yield of such a harvest shall be at the sole disposal of cooperative societies. I, however, together with other members who belong to such societies, feel that the body which has supplied seed corn, fertilizer, or other requirements, has the first right on the harvest. At the same time I also feel that the individual has also other obligations, and that he should not be handicapped in fulfilling them. I will support this Bill, and hope that the provisions will be gone into more closely in the committee stage. I am satisfied with the promise of the Minister that a commission will be appointed to investigate the causes why our co-operative societies have been such a failure, whether it has been through bad management or misunderstanding, or what not. I hope enquiry will be made as to whether those failures were occasioned by lack of a lead, or owing to the heads not doing enough work in the service of the societies, or whatever may be responsible for the failures.
I was very interested to hear the Minister of Agriculture this afternoon state that he was appointing a commission to enquire into the running of cooperative societies. That commission is very badly overdue, and I think no further powers should be given to the Minister until the commission has carried out its investigations. Clause 2 of the Bill provides—
- (a) ownership in the seeds, fertilizers or bags so supplied shall remain vested in the society or company as fully and effectually as if they had been retained in the possession of the society or company.
That is creating a very dangerous precedent. A large number of farmers are financed by overseas firms in the way of cash and material, and we may find a position arising in which co-operative societies will supply fruit-growers with fertilizers. Under this Bill, the co-operative society would then have the right to a lien on all the fruit grown by the farmer, to whom they have supplied fertilizers. This is a very dangerous measure, and before such a far-reaching power is given to the Minister of Agriculture, full investigation should be made as to whether the co-operative societies are capable of running themselves in a business-like manner. When they can convince the commission that this is the case, then by all means give the agricultural co-operative societies additional powers, but not before.
We heard an announcement made by the Minister yesterday that the credit associations would be relieved of the joint and several liability, and here the Minister comes and proposes that people, in regard to the purchase of bags, seed, etc., should join the co-operative societies on the same principle. They will indeed be released from the joint old debt, but if a man, e.g., wants seed corn, then the other members of his society must be his sureties. In the credit associations the farmers could at least select each other, but here in the co-operative societies you find people who do not know each other at all. The members who take no seed corn must then be sureties for other members who do take it. I think this will frighten away the people, and I shall not advise my electors to agree to it. One will possibly take five bags, and the other fifty, and yet they are all liable for the same amount. It is said that the harvest is a guarantee, but I do not consider it as sufficient, and I therefore do not see my way to support the motion.
I would like to draw the Minister’s attention to a matter though I am not certain whether this is the proper time to do it: the advances the co-operative societies get as seasonal loans must be repaid within twelve months. In certain parts of my constituency the farmers raise a seasonal loan on lucerne, but they are not assisted very much by that. In some parts of the country lucerne is not yet profitable in one year. I want to ask the Minister if he cannot so amend the law that longer loans can be given by the Land Bank, e.g., two years or more in the case of lucerne. Then there will be an opportunity for the cooperative societies really to assist the people, but as the law stands to-day things are in a sad way. The farmers have to sell their lucerne before it is at its best because the seasonal loan has to be repaid, although it would be far more profitable for them if they could wait another year.
I am a little surprised at the hon. member for Prieska (Mr. Geldenhuys), who, I believe, also represents co-operative societies, that he is so much opposed to the societies getting a preference in regard to the security. I do not believe the hon. member objected previously when similar legislation was introduced, such as the Drought Emergency Relief Act by which the north-west was especially assisted. The hon. member wants us to allow the matter to stand over until such time as other legislation is passed, but other hon. members agree with me that this Bill is urgently required. I also want to mention the Flood Distress Relief Act of 1932. Here also the Cape Province got its share. The Government under that Act also gave assistance, but took a mortgage. That also was in connection with seed, plant, etc., and the Land Bank had a mortgage over them. I therefore cannot see what the objection is against the right of security. Then I come to the hon. member for Maitland (Mr. R. J. du Toit) who objects to the Minister being given further powers. The Minister, however, is not asking for further powers here, all the Minister says is that at the request of hon. members he is trying to assist the co-operative societies. I ask the House whether hon. members are pre pared to give certain powers to the societies. If the House thinks differently about it, and that we had better allow the co-operative societies to disappear, then it is in its hands to pass such a resolution. I hope the hon. member for Maitland when he considers the matter properly will see that it is our duty to maintain the co-operative societies as far as possible, and even to encourage farmers to join them, until such time as better legislation is introduced to put the farmers on a better basis. If the co-operative societies were to be dissolved to-morrow what will happen to the farmers who have to sell their produce because it will take a certain time before other assist ance can be given. What, e.g., would happen to the fruit farmers of the Cape and the Transvaal if the co-operative societies suddenly cease to exist. The co-operative societies must be maintained while the commission is making enquiries and making its recommendations. The hon. member for Harrismith (Mr. Cilliers) also objects to our, on the one hand, taking away the joint and several liability of credit associations, and reintroducing the same principle here. But my hon. friend forgets that the Government goes so far here as to give the co-operative societies rights which they have never yet had viz., the first mortgage on the harvests. I, therefore, cannot understand the objection. If we were to meet that objection then I may say that the Land Bank would not be prepared to make advances to these societies. I have also been asked in connection with the commission of enquiry—I am glad to see everybody welcomes it—whether it will also enquire into the small co-operative societies and credit associations. My answer is, yes, not only the small societies, but also the credit associations and the whole position will be enquired into, as well as the general manner in which societies of that kind can in future be economically managed. They will go into all those matters and make a detailed report, and I hope this will be of such a nature that the Government will be enabled to make the necessary improvements. Those are the chief points that have been raised. There are some members who think we are going too far in this Bill. There are others, on the other hand, who think that we do not go far enough. I think that in the present circumstances we ought to take the middle course, and not to take either extreme. Let us take the middle course and wait for the report of the proposed commission. If then further steps are necessary we can take them in the light of that report. What is proposed in this Bill are matters which in my opinion are absolutely necessary.
Motion put and agreed to.
Bill read a second time; House to go into committee now.
House in Committee:
On Clause 1,
An amendment was made in the Dutch ver sion which did not occur in the English
Clause, as amended, put and agreed to.
On Clause 2,
I move—
I would like to say a few words in connection with that amendment. That is this, that 1 feel if you say “to the value of the goods supplied”, it means a member of a co-operative society is able to negotiate outside for further financial assistance if he desires such assistance. On the other hand, his credit is liable to be injured if such a clause is left standing as it is.
1 hope that the committee will not pass the amendment, because it will lead to a lot of trouble and work in practice. How are we to keep supervision over anything of that kind. It will be expected of the co-operative societies to point out what lands are cultivated with that fertilizer or seed. I object to such an amendment. A farmer is possibly assisted by the Land Bank and then he sells his produce to other people; if he sells it to the co-opeative society then he is paid the balance which is not necessary for the covering of his advance.
Amendment put and negatived.
Clause, as printed, put and agreed to.
Clause 3 and title, having been agreed to,
House Resumed:
Bill reported with an amendment, which was considered and agreed to, and the Bill, as amended, adopted; third reading to-morrow.
Sixth Order read: Second reading, Immigration (Amendment) Bill.
I move—
This is another little Bill conceived to tie up the loose ends of our immigration legislation. It contains only three proposals. They are all, I think, non-contentious and they are all necessary, and some of them have been on the stocks for quite a long time; for instance, the proposal in Clause 2 which deals with certain old Cape legislation with regard to Chinese, which proposal had the olessings of my predecessor in office, the hon. member for Calvinia (Dr. D. F. Malan), and which he thought it desirable to include in legislation to make provision there for. That provision was in the Bill which the hon. member for Calvinia introduced last session, and that Bill contained also the other two clauses which are contained in this Bill, which is virtually a repetition of the Bill of last session. Unfortunately, owing to the early prorogation of the last Parliament, he was not able to proceed with that measure, and I am introducing the Bill in the way in which it is now introduced, and I hope it will have the commendation of the House. It is not necessary for me to do anything except explain briefly the three provisions of the Bill. If any further explanation is needed, it can be given when we are at the committee stage. The first of these clauses repeals certain provisions in an old Natal immigration law, and it is being introduced at the request of the Indian community in Natal, transmitted to us through the Pro tector of Immigrants. These provisions are contained in sections 73 and 74 of the old Natal law of 1891. Section 73 fixes minimum ages for marriage for Indian immigrants. Perhaps I may say that it has been held that the term “Indian immigrants” covers the descendants of original immigrants. That fixes the minimum ages for marriage at 16 in the case of males and 13 in the case of females, and it further lays down that these shall be the ages of majority. Section 74 empowers marriage officers to solemnize marriages between parties who are not below these ages. The effect, therefore, is that boys of 16 and over and girls of 13 and over can be married without the consent of their parents. That, as I have said, is causing a good deal of dissatisfaction amongst the Indian community in Natal whose ideas are, of course, more and more closely approximating to those of the rest of the community in South Africa. The effect of the repeal of these two sections as proposed in section I of this Bill will be to place the Indian immigrants in Natal and, of course, their descendants in the same position as the rest of the community in regard to the ages at which marriage can take place without the consent of parents. There is certainly no reason for continuing the present differentiation and I hope therefore that the House will be prepared to accept this particular proposal. The second clause deals with certain old Cape legislation. It proposes the repeal of certain old Cape Acts which to-day are no longer necessary. They are Acts dealing with Chinese immigration, and I think one may say they bear the mark of the period at which they were passed into law. The principal Act was passed in 1904 which, of course, was just at the time of the Chinese labour invasion, if one may use that word, in the Transvaal. There was naturally a good deal of apprehension in the Cape that the old Cape Colony might suffer from the effects of the policy then being adopted in the northern provinces. There was a feeling that just as Indian immigration into Natal had led to the introduction of Indians into the Transvaal, so the introduction of Chinese labour into the Transvaal might in turn lead to the introduction of a large number of Chinese residents into the Cape Colony, and on that account the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1904 was passed, containing some very stringent provisions in regard to the exclusion of Chinese immigrants and in regard to the control of those who were actually in the old Cape Colony. In the meantime, as the House is aware, Union legislation has been passed dealing with immigration as a whole. That legislation has been proved by actual experience to control quite adequately both the entrance into South Africa of Asiatics and also the registration and control of those already in the country. The general legislation to which I have referred is less stringent than the old Chinese Exclusion Act of the Cape but no less effective. It is, therefore, quite unnecessary for us any longer to retain these special discriminating provisions in the old Cape legislation at the expense of the Chinese in this province of the Cape. For instance, under the old Cape law, it is necessary for Chinese in the Cape but not, of course, in the Transvaal, to renew annually their certificates of registration. It is necessary for them to inform the magistrate when they remove from one district to another. It is also necessary for each new certificate of registration of a Chinese to be signed by the Governor-General himself, so that in each case a Minister’s minute is necessary. I think it will be clear to the House that some of these provisions are unnecessarily vexatious to the Chinese. They lead to a good deal of extra labour from the official point of view and whatever may have been necessary in 1904, they are certainly no longer necessary to-day. I think I am correct in saying that there are to-day under 4,000 Chinese in the whole of the Union. In the Cape Province—and, of course, it is only the Cape Province which is affected by this Act— there are probably 1,600 Chinese, of whom almost half live at Port Elizabeth. It is certainly unnecessary that we should maintain on our statute book more stringent provisions for controlling these 1,600 Chinese than are found to be necessary for the control of our 200,000 Indians in the Union as a whole. For some years, the Chinese community has been trying to secure the repeal of this old legislation. I think the House will agree with me that the time has come when we should take this opportunity to give effect to what is a very reasonable request. Then there remains Clause 3 of this Bill. That provides for the deletion of one of the paragraphs of section 5 in the Immigrants Regulation Act of 1913. Section 5 is the section of the Act which lays down who are not to be regarded as prohibited immigrants and paragraph (h) provides that among others not to be regarded as prohibited immigrants are persons of European descent who are agricultural or domestic servants, skilled artizans, mechanics, workmen or miners and who have entered the Union under conditions which the Governor-General has approved, subject to a proviso which I need not read now. For some time the Trades and Labour Council has been pressing for the deletion of this particular paragraph because of their fear that it might have the effect of limiting employment of our own skilled artizans in South Africa. My predecessor agreed with that contention and undertook to introduce the necessary legislation. He carried out his undertaking when he introduced this Bill last session, but as I have explained, the Bill was not proceeded with. I am in agreement with my predecessor and I have no hesitation in giving effect to his undertaking in this way.
Are you taxing imported skill?
No. As I shall explain in a moment the position in terms of special cases can be met under section 25. I want to make this point, that quite apart from the contention of the Trades and Labour Council, from the point of view of the general principles and policy of our immigration legislation, this particular paragraph is certainly dangerous. We have, for instance, had the opinion of the law advisers in the following terms—
The effect of that is that if an immigrant presents himself who claims to be a skilled artizan, even if he may have been convicted of a grave offence in the country of origin, we have no power to keep him out under section 4. Section 5 (h) compels us to admit him. From that point of view, I think that in terms of the general policy of our Act, it is desirable that this paragraph should be removed. I want, however, to emphasize in answer to the hon. member for Cape Town (Gardens) (Mr. Coulter) that we still have, under section 25, the power to admit such skilled artizans and others in cases where their admission is justified. Section 25 gives us adequate powers for dealing with individual cases, but this paragraph (h) of section 5 as it now stands, gives us no discretion in the matter but lays it down that no one of these people may be regarded as a prohibited immigrant.
What will the policy be?
The policy will be to deal with each case on its merits. I think my hon. friend will realize that there are not, in fact, very many cases of this kind. As a matter of fact, this paragraph has been made very little use of in the past, and I think the House will agree that the provision which we make in this Bill is a necessary one.
I want to refer to the first clause of this Bill as I did not quite understand what the Minister meant. I think the Minister said that this clause is making provision for these people at 16 years or over to be married without the consent of their parents.
No, it stops that.
The only change you make then, by cancelling sections (73) and (74) is that the male may be 16 years, and the female may be 13 years or over. Now you make them both 16 years.
No, you do not.
Surely the Minister knows a good deal about Indian customs, and one would like to feel that there is at least a very strong demand on the part of the Indians, who are interested in this, before you raise the ages which are usual in other parts of the world, where Indians live, and before you put them on a level with Europeans. Because that would be the effect of the cancellation of these two clauses. The point which arises is this, whether it is a desirable thing to do to introduce European customs amongst the Indians, even if they are born in South Africa, and to take away from them those old customs that have been in existence so long. I have had some little experience of these customs, and everyone knows how these customs cling, as perhaps they cling to no other race in the world. I would like to know, before we pass this, that there is a strong demand on the part of the Indian people in Natal for this change, and if there is no such strong demand, then I want the Minister to tell the House what benefit it will be to change these people’s customs to this new custom, or, rather, to bring them to our European custom. I cannot at the moment see, without further explanation, what benefits will accrue, excepting that you are taking away the customs of the Indians which are ages old, and are introducing among them European customs by fixing ages at higher than what they are provided for by themselves.
I would like to put a question to the Minister which is of great importance to the Transvaal. The Minister is possibly aware that in the Transvaal Asiatics get young white girls into their shops as servants. I know of cases where they have subsequently gone to the Cape to get married. That is a thing which is increasing very greatly in the Transvaal and many parents are grieving at the increasing of the danger. Various cases have been brought to the notice of the Minister, and I want to ask him if he does not think that the necessary legislation should be introduced to prevent this danger.
In reply to the hon. member for Hospital (Mr. Henderson), I think it is merely necessary to say that this particular proposal is the result of representations made by the Indian community to the Protector of Indian immigrants in Natal, who satisfied himself that there is grave dissatisfaction at present among the Natal Indian community with the law as it stands. I want to say, further, that this particular proposal was contained in the Bill previously introduced into this House. The intention of the Government to legislate in this way has long been known to the Indian community in Natal, and has been discussed by them, and we have had no indication that they are otherwise than entirely satisfied with the proposal put forward. The hon. member may accept my assurance that this is in accordance with the wishes of the Indian community.
*I did not quite follow the point of the hon. member for Delarey (Mr. L. M. Wentzel). I could not quite understand him. I think it refers to the Transvaal which does not come under the provisions of Clause 1. I will, therefore, be very glad if the hon. member will come and see me personally about the matter and I will go into it.
Motion put and agreed to.
Bill read a second time; House to go into committee now.
House in Committee:
On Clause 3,
As far as I know, this Clause is more or less a dead letter in the Immigrants Regulation Act of 1913, and has been so of late years. It applies to people entering under conditions approved of by the Governor-General, and I do not think that there has been any immigration for some time under that clause. I want to draw attention to the danger of deleting that clause without making other provision. In Clause 4 you find a list of people who are prohibited immigrants. Clause 5 deals with people who are not prohibited immigrants. Clause 4 (c) deals with people who are likely to become a public charge, but apart from infirmity of mind or body the only test of becoming a public charge is the possession of means. Now you may very often have a case where a person, a highly skilled person, wants to come out here but has not got the necessary money, although he has employment waiting for him. He may be a university man. He may not have any money in his pocket, beyond his ticket, but he has a valuable contract and there is no provision made for him. It is true the Minister has the power to admit a person who is a prohibited immigrant under section 25, but I think he might consider whether, as he is taking out Clause 5 (h), he should not put in, under 4 (c), something to make it clear that where a man has no money on him, but where he has a definite contract, which is recognized by the Government, he should be allowed in under Clause 4 (c). Take a case such as I have mentioned, the case of a university man. He comes out under contract, but, as a rule a man of that kind does not have much money on him, and there is nothing under Clause 4 to prevent the possibility of his being excluded. He may come in under (h), which is being repealed, and if you take out (h) he may be excluded. Provision should be made whereby a man of this type who is coming out under a contract should be allowed to come into the country, not that I am advocating the importation of contract labour. To treat such a man as a prohibited immigrant would be placing rather a stigma upon him, and surely it is not the intention that that should be done. As it is, however, the only way in which such a man can enter the Union is for him to be declared a prohibited immigrant, and then for the Minister to grant him a special exemption. I do not think that this is satisfactory. I cannot move an amendment, however, because the clause in which this matter is dealt with is not one of those clauses which the Minister proposes to amend.
I am quite prepared to consider the point raised by the hon. member for Cape Town (Castle) (Mr. Alexander), but I think he will agree with me that the matter is not really one of any great urgency. The clause to which he refers has virtually been a dead letter for some time, and yet there has been no difficulty in regard to the admission of persons of the kind referred to by him. The repeal of the paragraph will, therefore, make very little difference indeed.
Clause put and agreed to.
Remaining clauses and title having been agreed to,
House Resumed:
Bill reported without amendment; third reading to-morrow.
The House adjourned at