1966 Front Matter Vol16

Elected under provisions of South West Africa Affairs Amendment Act, 1949 (Act No. 23 of 1949).

Elected 4th October, 1961, under provisions of Separate Representation of Voters Act, 1951 (Act No. 46 of 1951).

Vacancies: Boksburg, Fort Beaufort, Humansdorp and Nelspruit.

English version signed by the State President, under section sixty-five of the Republic of South Africa Constitution Act, 1961.

Afrikaans version signed by the State President, under section sixty-five of the Republic of South Africa Constitution Act, 1961.

See also separate Index to Questions.

See also separate Index to Subjects.

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DEBATES OF THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY (HANSARD)

REPUBLIC OF SOUTH AFRICA

FIFTH SESSIONSECOND PARLIAMENT

21st January to 10th February, 1966

(Vol. 16)

CONTENTS

Pages

The Ministry v Members of the House of Assembly and their constituencies vi Electoral Divisions in House of Assembly and their representatives viii Bills of Session x Select Committees of Session xi Errata xii Debates Indices: Subjects 1 Questions 7 Speeches 14 Presiding Officers’ rulings 24

THE MINISTRY

CABINET MINISTERS

Prime Minister

Dr. the Hon. H. F. VERWOERD, M.P.

Minister of Finance

Dr. the Hon. T. E. DÖNGES, S.C., M.P.

Minister of Transport

The Hon. B. J. SCHOEMAN, M.P.

Minister of Social Welfare and Pensions

The Hon. J. J. SERFONTEIN, M.P.

Minister of The Interior and of Education, Arts and Science

The Hon. Senator J. DE KLERK.

Minister of Bantu Administration and Development

The Hon. M. D. C. DE WET NEL, M.P.

Minister of Agricultural Technical Services and of Water Affairs

The Hon. P. M. K. LE ROUX, M.P.

Minister of Forestry, of Bantu Education and of Indian Affairs

The Hon. W. A. MAREE, M.P.

Minister of Economic Affairs

Dr. the Hon. N. DIEDERICHS, M.P.

Minister of Posts and Telegraphs and of Health

Dr. the Hon. A. HERTZOG, M.P.

Minister of Agricultural Economics and Marketing and of Agricultural Credit and Land Tenure

The Hon. D. C. H. UYS, M.P.

Minister of Defence

The Hon. J. J. FOUCHÉ, M.P.

Minister of Labour and of Immigration

The Hon. Senator A. E. TROLLIP.

Minister of Community Development, Of Public Works and of Coloured Affairs

The Hon. P. W. BOTHA, M.P.

Minister of Justice

The Hon. B. J. VORSTER, M.P.

Minister of Information and of Tourism

The Hon. F. W. WARING, M.P.

Minister of Foreign Affairs

Dr. the Hon. H. MULLER, M.P.

Minister of Mines and of Planning

The Hon. J. F. W. HAAK, M.P.

DEPUTY MINISTERS

Deputy Minister of the Interior, of Education, Arts and Science, of Labour and of Immigration

The Hon. M. VILJOEN, M.P.

Deputy Minister of Bantu Administration and Development

The Hon. M. C. BOTHA, M.P.

Deputy Minister for South West Africa Affairs

The Hon. J. G. H. VAN DER WATH, M.P.

Deputy Minister of Agricultural Technical Services, of Water Affairs, of Agricultural Economics and Marketing and of Agricultural Credit and Land Tenure

The Hon. H. E. MARTINS, M.P.

MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY

AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES

SPEAKER: The Hon. H. J. Klopper, M.P.

DEPUTY SPEAKER AND CHAIRMAN OF COMMITTEES: Dr. A. I. Malan, M.P.

DEPUTY CHAIRMAN OF COMMITTEES: Mr. P. C. Pelser, M. P.

SECRETARY TO HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY: Mr. R. J. McFarlane.

  • Barnett, C.—Boland.
  • Basson, J. A. L.—Sea Point
  • Basson, J. D. du P.—Bezuidenhout.
  • Bekker, G. F. H.—Cradock.
  • Bekker, M. J. H.—Groblersdal.
  • Bennett, C.—Albany.
  • Bezuidenhout, G. P. C.—Brakpan.
  • Bloomberg, A.—Peninsula.
  • Bootha, L. J. C.—Rustenburg.
  • Botha, H. J.—Aliwal.
  • Botha, Hon.M. C.—Roödepoort.
  • Botha, Hon.P. W.—George.
  • Botha, S. P.—Soutpansberg.
  • Bronkhorst, Brig.H. J.—North-East Rand
  • Cadman, R. M.—Zululand.
  • Coertze, Dr. L. I.—Standerton.
  • Coetzee, B.—Vereeniging.
  • Coetzee, Dr. J. A.—Kempton Park.
  • Coetzee, P. J.—Langlaagte.
  • Connan, J. M.—Cape Town-Gardens.
  • Cronje, Dr. F. J. C.—Jeppes.
  • Cruywagen, W. A.—Germiston.
  • De Jager, P. R.—Mayfair.
  • De Kock, H. C.—Pretoria-Rissik.
  • De Villiers, J. D.—Hottentots-Holland.
  • De Wet, J. M.—Namib.
  • Diederichs, Dr. the Hon. N.—Losberg.
  • Dodds, P. R.—Port Elizabeth-Central.
  • Dönges, Dr. the Hon. T. E., S.C.—Worcester.
  • Du Plessis, H. R. H.—Kuruman.
  • Durrant, R. B.—Turffontein
  • Eaton, N. G.—Umhlatuzana.
  • Eden, G. S.—Karoo.
  • Emdin, S.—Parktown.
  • Field, A. N.—East London-North.
  • Fisher, Dr. E. L.—Rosettenville.
  • Fouché, Hon. J. J.—Bloemfontein-West.
  • Frank, S., S.C.—Omaruru.
  • Froneman, G. F. van L.—Heilbron
  • Gay, L. C.—Simonstown.
  • Gorshel, A.—Hospital.
  • Graaff, Sir De V.—Rondebosch.
  • Greyling, J. C.—Ventersdorp.
  • Grobler, M. S. F.—Marico.
  • Haak, Hon. J. F. W.—Bellville.
  • Henning, J. M.—Vanderbijlpark.
  • Henwood, Capt. B. H.—Pietermaritzburg-District.
  • Hertzog, Dr. the Hon. A.—Ermelo.
  • Heystek, J.—Waterberg.
  • Hickman, T.—Maitland
  • Hiemstra, E. C. A.—Lydenburg-Barberton.
  • Higgerty, J. W.—Von Brandis.
  • Holland, M. W.—Outeniqua.
  • Hopewell, A.—Pinetown.
  • Hourquebie, R. G. L.—Durban-Musgrave.
  • Hughes, T. G.—Transkeian Territories.
  • Jurgens, Dr. J. C.—Geduld.
  • Keyter, H. C. A.—Ladybrand.
  • Klopper, H. J.—Vredefort.
  • Knobel, G. J.—Bethlehem.
  • Koornhof, Dr. P. G. J.—Edenvale.
  • Kotze, G. P.—Gordonia.
  • Kotzé, S. F.—Parow.
  • Labuschagne, J. S.—Vryburg.
  • Le Roux, Hon. P. M. K.—Oudtshoorn.
  • Lewis, H.—Durban-Umlazi.
  • Loots, J. J.—Queenstown.
  • Malan, Dr. A. I.—Hercules.
  • Malan, E. G.—Orange Grove.
  • Malan, W. C.—Paarl.
  • Marais, J. A.—Innesdale.
  • Marais, P. S.—Moorreesburg.
  • Maree, G. de K.—Namaqualand.
  • Maree, Hon. W. A.—Newcastle.
  • Martins, Hon. H. E.—Wakkerstroom.
  • Meyer, Dr. T.—Odendaalsrus.
  • Miller, H.—Florida.
  • Mitchell, D. E.—Natal South Coast.
  • Mitchell, M. L.—Durban-North.
  • Moolman, Dr. J. H.—East London-City.
  • Moore, P. A.—Kensington.
  • Mostert, D. J. J.—Witbank.
  • Mulder, Dr. C. P.—Randfontein.
  • Muller, Dr. the Hon. H.—Beaufort West.
  • Muller, S. L.—Ceres.
  • Nel, J. A. F.—Port Elizabeth-North.
  • Nel, Hon. M. D. C. de W.—Wonderboom.
  • Niemand, F. J.—Pietersburg.
  • Odell, H. G. O.—Pietermaritzburg-City.
  • Oldfield, G. N.—Durban-Umbilo.
  • Otto, Dr. J. C.—Pretoria-East.
  • Pansegrouw, J. S.—Smithfield.
  • Pelser, P. C.—Klerksdorp.
  • Plewman, R. P.—Port Elizabeth-South.
  • Potgieter, D. J.—Vryheid.
  • Potgieter, J. E.—Brits.
  • Radford, Dr. A., M.C.—Durban-Central.
  • Rall, J. J.—Harrismith.
  • Rall, J. W.—Bethal-Middelburg.
  • Rall, M. J.—Mossel Bay.
  • Raw, W. V.—Durban-Point.
  • Ross, D. G.—Benoni.
  • Sadie, N. C. van R.—Winburg.
  • Schlebusch, A. L.—Kroonstad.
  • Schlebusch, J. A.—Bloemfontein-District.
  • Schoeman, Hon. B. J.—Maraisburg.
  • Schoeman, J. C. B.—North-West Rand.
  • Schoonbee, J. F.—Pretoria-District.
  • Serfontein, Hon. J. J.—Fauresmith-Boshoff.
  • Smit, H. H.—Stellenbosch.
  • Stander, A. H.—Prieska.
  • Steenkamp, Dr. L. S.—Hillbrow.
  • Steyn, Dr. J. H.—Potchefstroom.
  • Steyn, S. J. M.—Yeoville.
  • Streicher, D. M.—Port Elizabeth-West
  • Suzman, H.—Houghton.
  • Swanepoel, J. W. F.—Kimberley-North.
  • Swiegers, J. G.—Uitenhage.
  • Taurog, L. B.—Springs.
  • Taylor, C. D.—Wynberg.
  • Thompson, J. O. N., D.F.C.—Pinelands.
  • Timoney, H. M.—Salt River.
  • Treurnicht, N. F.—Piketberg.
  • Tucker, H.—Germiston-District.
  • Uys, Hon. D. C. H.—False Bay.
  • Van den Berg, G. P.—Wolmaransstad.
  • Van den Berg, M. J.—Krugersdorp.
  • Van den Heever, D. J. G.—Pretoria-Central.
  • Van der Ahee, H. H.—Graaff-Reinet.
  • Van der Byl, Maj. the Hon. P., M.C.—Green Point.
  • Van der Merwe, P. S.—Middelland.
  • Van der Spuy, J. P.—Westdene.
  • Van der Walt, B. J.—Pretoria-West.
  • Van der Wath, Hon. J. G. H.—Windhoek.
  • Van Eeden, F. J.—Swellendam.
  • Van Niekerk, M. C.—Lichtenburg.
  • Van Niekerk, S. M.—Drakensberg.
  • Van Rensburg, M. C. G. J.—Bloemfontein-East.
  • Van Staden, J. W.—Malmesbury.
  • Van Wyk, H. J.—Welkom.
  • Van Zyl, J. J. B.—Pretoria-Sunnyside.
  • Venter, M. J. de la R.—De Aar-Colesberg.
  • Venter, Dr. W. L. D. M.—Kimberley-South.
  • Verwoerd, Dr. the Hon. H. F.—Heidelberg.
  • Viljoen, Hon. M.—Alberton.
  • Visse, J. H.—Prinshof.
  • Von Moltke, J. von S.—Karas.
  • Vorster, Hon. B. J.—Nigel.
  • Vosloo, A. H.—Somerset East.
  • Waring, Hon. F. W.—Vasco.
  • Warren, C. M.—King William’s Town.
  • Waterson, Hon. S. F.—Constantia.
  • Webster, A.—Etosha.
  • Weiss, U. M.—Johannesburg-North.
  • Wentzel, J. J.—Christiana.
  • Wood, L. F.—Durban-Berea.

LIST OF ELECTORAL DIVISIONS—HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY, 1966.

CAPE PROVINCE

Albany

Bennett, C.

Aliwal

Botha, H. J.

Beaufort West

Muller, Dr. the Hon H.

Bellville

Haak, Hon. J. F. W.

Cape Town-Gardens

Connan, J. M.

Ceres

Muller, S. L.

Constantia

Waterson, Hon. S. F.

Cradock

Bekker, G. F. H.

De Aar-Colesberg

Venter, M. J. de la R.

East London-City

Moolman, Dr. J. H.

East London-North

Field, A. N.

False Bay

Uys, Hon. D. C. H.

Fort Beaufort

(Vacant.)

George

Botha, Hon. P. W.

Gordonia

Kotze, G. P.

Graaff-Reinet

Van der Ahee, H. H.

Green Point

Van der Byl, Maj. the Hon. Piet M.C.

Hottentots-Holland

De Villiers, J. D.

Humansdorp

(Vacant.)

Kimberley-North

Swanepoel, J. W. F.

Kimberley-South

Venter, Dr. W. L. D. M.

King William’s Town

Warren, C. M.

Kuruman

Du Plessis, H. R. H.

Maitland

Hickman, T.

Malmesbury

Van Staden, J. W.

Moorreesburg

Marais, P. S.

Mossel Bay

Rall, M. J.

Namaqualand

Maree, G. de K.

Oudtshoorn

Le Roux, Hon. P. M. K.

Paarl

Malan, W. C.

Parow

Kotze, S. F.

Piketberg

Treurnicht, N. F.

Pinelands

Thompson, J. O. N., D.F.C.

Port Elizabeth-Central

Dodds, P. R.

Port Elizabeth-North

Nel, J. A. F.

Port Elizabeth-South

Plewman, R. P.

Port Elizabeth-West

Streicher, D. M.

Prieska

Stander, A. H.

Queenstown

Loots, J. J.

Rondebosch

Graaff, Sir De V.

Salt River

Timoney, H. M.

Sea Point

Basson, J. A. L.

Simonstown

Gay, L. C.

Somerset East

Vosloo, A. H.

Stellenbosch

Smit, H. H.

Swellendam

Van Eeden, F. J.

Transkeian Territories

Hughes, T. G.

Uitenhage

Swiegers, J. G.

Vasco

Waring, Hon. F. W.

Vryburg

Labuschagne, J. S.

Worcester

Dönges, Dr. the Hon. T. E., S.C.

Wynberg

Taylor, Catherine D.

NATAL

Drakensberg

Van Niekerk, Susanna M.

Durban-Berea

Wood, L. F.

Durban-Central

Radford, Dr. A., M.C.

Durban-Musgrave

Hourquebie, R. G. L.

Durban-North

Mitchell, M. L.

Durban-Point

Raw, W. V.

Durban-Umbilox

Oldfield, G. N.

Durban-Umlazi

Lewis, H.

Natal South Coast

Mitchell, D. E.

Newcastle

Maree, Hon. W. A.

Pietermaritzburg-City

Odell, H. G. O.

Pietermaritzburg-District

Henwood, Capt. B. H.

Pinetown

Hopewell, A

Umhlatuzana

Eaton, N. G.

Vryheid

Potgieter, D. J.

Zululand

Cadman, R. M.

ORANGE FREE STATE

Bethlehem

Knobel, G. J.

Bloemfontein-District

Schlebusch, J. A.

Bloemfontein-East

Van Rensburg, M. C. G. J.

Bloemfontein-West

Fouché, Hon. J. J.

Fauresmith-Boshof

Serfontein, Hon. J.J.

Harrismith

Rall, J. J.

Heilbron

Froneman, G. F. van L.

Kroonstad

Schlebusch, A. L.

Ladybrand

Keyter, H. C. A.

Odendaalsrus

Meyer, Dr. T.

Smithfield

Pansegrouw, J. S.

Vredefort

Klopper, Hon. H. J.

Welkom

Van Wyk, H. J.

Winburg

Sadie, N. C. van R.

TRANSVAAL

Alberton

Viljoen, Hon. M.

Benoni

Ross, D. G.

Bethal-Middelburg

Rall, J. W.

Bezuidenhout

Basson, J. D. du P.

Boksburg

(Vacant).

Brakpan

Bezuidenhout, G. P. C.

Brits

Potgieter, J. E.

Christiana

Wentzel, J. J.

Edenvale

Koornhof, Dr. P. G. J.

Ermelo

Hertzog, Dr. the Hon. A.

Florida

Miller, H.

Geduld

Jurgens, Dr. J. C.

Germiston

Cruywagen, W. A.

Germiston-District

Tucker, H.

Groblersdal

Bekker, M. J. H.

Heidelberg

Verwoerd, Dr. the Hon. H. F.

Hercules

Malan, Dr. A. I.

Hillbrow

Steenkamp, Dr. L. S.

Hospital

Gorshel, A.

Houghton

Suzman, Helen

Innesdale

Marais, J. A.

Jeppes

Cronje, Dr. F. J. C.

Johannesburg-North

Weiss, Ursula M.

Kempton Park

Coetzee, Dr. J. A.

Kensington

Moore, P. A.

Klerksdorp

Pelser, P. C.

Krugersdorp

Van den Berg, M. J.

Langlaagte

Coetzee, P. J.

Lichtenburg

Van Niekerk, M. C.

Losberg

Diederichs, Dr. the Hon. N.

Lydenburg-Barberton

Hiemstra, E. C. A.

Maraisburg

Schoeman, Hon. B. J.

Marico

Grobler, M. S. F.

Mayfair

De Jager, P. R.

Nelspruit

(Vacant)

Nigel

Vorster, Hon. B. J.

North-East Rand

Bronkhorst, Brig. H. J.

North-West Rand

Schoeman, J. C. B.

Orange Grove

Malan, E. G.

Parktown

Emdin, S.

Pietersburg

Niemand, F. J.

Potchefstroom

Steyn, Dr. J. H.

Pretoria-Central

Van den Heever, D. J. G.

Pretoria-District

Schoonbee, J. F.

Pretoria-East

Otto, Dr. J. C.

Pretoria-Rissik

De Kock, H. C.

Pretoria-Sunnyside

Van Zyl, J. J. B.

Pretoria-West

Van der Walt, B. J.

Prinshof

Visse, J. H.

Randfontein

Mulder, Dr. C. P.

Roodepoort

Botha, Hon. M. C.

Rosettenville

Fisher, Dr. E. L.

Rustenburg

Bootha, L. J. C.

Soutpansberg

Botha, S. P.

Springs

Taurog, L. B.

Standerton

Coertze, Dr. L. I.

Turffontein

Durrant, R. B.

Vanderbijlpark

Henning, J. M.

Ventersdorp

Greyling, J. C.

Vereeniging

Coetzee, B.

Von Brandis

Higgerty, J. W.

Wakkerstroom

Martins, Hon. H. E.

Waterberg

Heystek, J.

Westdene

Van der Spuy, J. P.

Witbank

Mostert, D. J. J.

Wolmaransstad

Van den Berg, G. P.

Wonderboom

Nel, Hon. M. D. C. de W.

Yeoville

Steyn, S. J. M.

SOUTH-WEST AFRICA

Etosha

Webster, A.

Karas

Von Moltke, J. von S.

Middelland

Van der Merwe, P. S.

Namib

De Wet, J. M.

Omaruru

Frank, S., S.C.

Windhoek

Van der Wath, Hon. J. G. H.

COLOURED REPRESENTATIVES

Boland

Barnett, C.

Karoo

Eden, G. S.

Outeniqua

Holland, M. W.

Peninsula

Bloomberg, A.

BILLS OF THE SESSION

No. of Bill.

No. of Act.

Short Title.

A.B.

1—’66

14—’66

Motor Vehicle Insurance Amendment.

2—’66

16—’66

Advertising on Roads and Ribbon Development Amendment.

3—’66

15—’66

Motor Carrier Transportation Amendment.

4—’66

18—’66

Railways and Harbours Acts Amendment.

5—’66

17—’66

Railway Construction.

6—’66

1—’66

South-West Africa Constitution Amendment.

7—’66

2—’66

University of Stellenbosch Amendment.

8—’66

Roodepoort and Weltevreden Agricultural Settlements Adjustment [Proceedings suspended].

9—’66

11—’66

Water Amendment.

10—’66

6—’66

Factories, Machinery and Building Work Amendment.

11—’66

7—’66

State Attorney Amendment.

12—’66

8—’66

Suppression of Communism Amendment.

13—’66

13—’66

Matrimonial Affairs Amendment.

14—’66

Reservation of Separate Amenities Amendment (a).

15—’66

25—’66

Part Appropriation.

16—’66

3— 66

Community Development.

17—’66

4—’66

Housing.

18—’66

Emergency Planning (a).

19—’66

5—’66

Judges’ Remuneration and Pensions Amendment.

20—’66

9—’66

Reciprocal Enforcement of Civil Judgments.

21—’66

Suppression of Communism Further Amendment (a).

22—’66

Industrial Conciliation [S.C. 2—’66) (w) [See A.B. 42—’66].

23—’66

Agricultural Credit (a).

24—’66

Land Tenure (a)

25—’66

10—’66

Kimberley Leasehold Conversion to Freehold Amendment.

26—’66

19—’66

Railways and Harbours Additional Appropriation.

27—’66

21—’66

South African Mint and Coinage Amendment.

28—’66

20—’66

Railways and Harbours Part Appropriation.

29—’66

23—’66

Finance.

30—’66

26—’66

Pension Laws Amendment.

31—’66

Bethelsdorp Settlement Amendment [Proceedings suspended].

32—’66

Dessinian Collection (a).

33—’66

Births, Marriages and Deaths Registration Amendment (a).

34—’66

Wild Birds Protection and Export Prohibition Laws Repeal (a).

35—’66

Registration of Pedigree Livestock Amendment (a).

36—’66

Aliens Amendment (a).

37—’66

24—’66

Additional Appropriation.

38—’66

22—’66

Unauthorized Expenditure (1964—’65).

39—’66

12—’66

Base Minerals Amendment.

40—’66

Agricultural Pests Amendment (a).

41—’66

Livestock and Produce Sales Amendment (a)

42—’66

Industrial Conciliation (a)

Abbreviations:

(a)Dropped in Assembly.

(w)Withdrawn.

(S.C.)—Numbers indicate the number of the printed report of the Select Committee to which the Bill was referred.

Reports of Select and Sessional Committees.

(Fifth Session, Second Parliament)

Printed No. of Report.

S.C. 1—’66.

Public Accounts [First].

Public Accounts [Second—Printed in Minutes of Proceedings, p. 81].

S.C. 2—’66.

Subject of the Industrial Conciliation Amendment Bill.

Standing Rules and Orders [Report printed in Minutes of Proceedings, p. 76]

ERRATA

Col. 159, line 41, For “Basutoland”, read “South Africa”.

Col. 1256: After Question No. 14, add the following two Questions—

  1. 15. Mr. Thompson to ask the Minister of Posts and Telegraphs:
    1. (1) How many applications for telephones from (a) the area of the Pinelands Municipality and (6) the Rondebosch-Newlands-Claremont area were (i) received and (ii) met during 1964 and 1965 respectively;
    2. (2) how many applications from these areas are outstanding;
    3. (3) whether steps are being taken to reduce the number of outstanding applications; if so, what steps; if not, why not?
  2. 16. Mr. Thompson to ask the Minister of Justice:
    Whether he will give consideration to conferring medical aid benefits on policemen who retired prior to 1st January, 1964; if not, why not?

REPUBLIC OF SOUTH AFRICA

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY DEBATES (HANSARD)

FIFTH SESSION — SECOND PARLIAMENT

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