House of Assembly: Vol7 - FRIDAY 2 SEPTEMBER 1988

FRIDAY, 2 SEPTEMBER 1988 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY

†Indicates translated version.

For written reply :

General Affairs

Motherwell, PE: erven released for allocation 1284. Mr D J N MALCOMESS

asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:

Whether any erven were recently released for allocation in Extension 4B and 7 of Motherwell Township, Port Elizabeth; if so, (a) how many were released, (b) (i) to whom and (ii) on what basis were they allocated, (c) how was the allocation decided upon, (d) what was the cost to the State of developing these sites, (e) what is the estimated total cost of the erven so released and (f) what is the average (i) size and (ii) price of these erven?

The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:

This matter vests in the Administrator of the Cape Province and he furnished the following information:

Yes

(a) 2 151

Ext. 4B

Ext. 7

(b) (i) Arakhaya Construction

100

100

Arctic Construction

190

Bester Homes

127

500

Comfy Homes

75

Dimitri Zenior Designers and Builders

150

East Cape Black Building and Allied Contractors Association

50

50

East Cape Homes

50

Gough Cooper Homes

100

Group 5 Homes

70

Hancka Broers

50

Lockblock Homes

100

50

LTA Comiat

60

MAM Properties

75

Hendes Builders

40

Micky Yili Estates

50

Scottsview

30

Thypet Homes

50

Time Housing

84

712

1 439

  1. (ii) Number of sites previously allocated to developer.
    Previous performance.
    Developers who specialise in housing.
    Evaluation of proposed house plans to be used.
    Financial ability.
    Innovation on this terrain in the Eastern Cape where ±7 000 sites were allocated to private developers in the metropole.
  1. (c) Executive Committee of the Provincial Administration of the Cape of Good Hope took the decision as a result of the evaluation of (b) (ii) supra.
  2. (d) Final costs not available as yet. Estimated costs for 2 151 residential sites R7 017 000. Bulk services not included.
  3. (e) R7 017 000 + cost of land (125 587) = R7 142 587

(f) (i) Average size

261 m2

(ii) Average price

R267 Leasehold

R460 Connection Costs

R727

Balance of costs will be recovered from the individual by way of the monthly service charges.

Detainees: access to prison shops 1319. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Justice:

  1. (1) Whether detainees held in prison cells under emergency regulations have access to prison shops; if not, whynot; if so, (a) how frequently, (b) with what products are such shops stocked and (c) who is responsible for setting the prices of the goods sold;
  2. (2) whether goods sold in prison shops are sold for profit; if so, what is the current profit margin;
  3. (3) whether access to prison shops differs with regard to (a) race, (b) (i) age and (ii) health and (c) other specified criteria; if so, (aa) why and (bb) what are the differences in each case;
  4. (4) whether St Albans Prison, Port Elizabeth, complies with the above provisions regarding detainees held under emergency regulations; if not, (a) why not and (b) in what ways do they differ?
The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:
  1. (1) Yes.
    1. (a) As regularly as possible, within the limits of an orderly prison routine and also taking into account the provisions of Regulation 3 of the Prison Emergency Regulations and the local circumstances at each prison.
    2. (b) It is unfortunately not possible to supply a complete list within the scope of this reply of all items kept in stock. These shops were implemented as tuck shops which stock inter alia canned food, smoking requisites and toiletries and the type of stock is made up of items for which there is a demand and further taking into account, factors such as perishability and availability in general.
    3. (c) As at (2) below.
  2. (2) There are basically two ways in which this service is provided for in prisons, namely:
    • — The items ordered by prisoners are bought for the prisoners directly from retail dealers. The amount paid by the prisoners in this instance is the price charged by the retailer. No profit other than that of the retailer is therefore in question.
      This procedure is normally followed at those prisons where no Prisons Service Canteens are available.
    • — At those prisons with Prisons Service Canteens, tuck shops are normally run in the prisons as outlets of the Prison Service Canteens. The profit margin for Prison Service Canteens is fixed countrywide at 5%, being provision for handling costs and prisoners pay the same prices as the personnel of the South African Prisons Service.
  3. (3) (a), (b) (i) and (ii) as well as (c).
    No.
    (aa) and (bb) fall away.
  4. (4) Yes.
    (a) and (b) fall away.
St Albans Prison, PE: conditions of detention 1320. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Justice:

  1. (1) Whether he has received any representations regarding the conditions under which detainees held under emergency regulations are held in St Albans Prison, Port Elizabeth; if so, (a) how many and (b) (i) from whom (ii) when, and (iii) what was the purport of these representations, in each case;
  2. (2) whether he responded to any of these representations; if not, why not; if so, (a) to whom, (b) when, and (c) what was the purport of his response, in each case;
  3. (3) whether he has conducted any inquiry into the conditions under which such detainees are held at St Albans Prison; if not, why not; if so, (a) when, (b) why and (c) what were the findings?
The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:
  1. (1) and (2)
    From time to time representations are received from emergency regulation detainees, their legal representatives and/or other persons acting on their behalf. Each such representation receives thorough attention and the person who made the representation is suitably informed on the result of his representation.
    Unfortunately the honourable member’s question does not mention for which specific period the information is required. However, should she have a specific case in mind, she is welcome to furnish me with the details and I will then have the matter investigated.
  2. (3) Apart from the Judges of the Supreme Court of South Africa who visit emergency regulation detainees, inspection visits by inspectors of prisons, health inspectors, commanding officers, etc. are regularly carried out at all prisons and all matters which have to be attended to are thoroughly investigated and disposed of. St Albans Prison is no exception.
    1. (a), (b) and (c) fall away.
Detainees: minimum area of cell space 1321. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Justice:

  1. (1) What is the minimum area of cell space allocated to each detainee held in prison cells under emergency regulations;
  2. (2) whether such detainees are provided with (a) bedding and (b) mattresses; if not, why not; if so, (i) what bedding and/or mattresses and (ii) what are the dimensions of the mattresses provided;
  3. (3) whether such detainees are provided with (a) warm clothing, (b) eating utensils, (c) hot water and (d) heating where necessary; if not, why not;
  4. (4) whether the provision of such items differs with regard to (a) race, (b) (i) age and (ii) health, (c) detainees held in prison cells as opposed to police cells and (d) other specified criteria; if so, (aa) why and (bb) what are the differences in each case;
  5. (5) whether St Albans Prison, Port Elizabeth, complies with the above provisions regarding detainees held under emergency regulations; if not, (a) why not and (b) in what ways do they differ?
The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:
  1. (1) The accommodation norm which is applied in South African prisons is not based on surface space per prisoner alone, but also on the total cubic space per cell taking into account factors such as the age, structure and design of the building and climate concerned. The allocation of detainees per communal cell therefore depends on the said factors and also whether such cells are furnished with conventional beds, stacked beds or sleeping mats with bedding.
  2. (2) (a) and (b), (i) and (ii)
    All prisoners, including emergency regulation detainees, are provided with separate bedding which is warm enough and conforms to hygienic requirements.
    Items of bedding are as follows:
    • — Beds
    • — Mattresses (Sponge): 2 m X 700 mm X 100 mm
    • — Pillows
    • — Sheets (two per prisoner who sleeps in a bed)
    • — Pillow cases
    • — Blankets
    • — Bedspreads
    • — Sisal mats*
    • — Felt mats*
      * These items are supplied where beds are not provided.
  3. (3)
    1. (a) As is the case with unsentenced prisoners, emergency regulation detainees wear their own clothes and their families and friends may give the detainees additional clothing during regular visits according to the needs of the season. However, if a detainee’s clothes are insufficient, prison clothes which conform to certain requirements are provided on request.
    2. (b) Yes.
    3. (c) Yes, where available.
    4. (d) Taking into account the general climate of the Republic of South Africa as well as the type of clothing which is available to prisoners, additional artificial heating is not provided. The number of blankets provided to prisoners is however varied according to climatic conditions.
  4. (4)
    1. (a) No.
    2. (b)
      1. (i) No.
      2. (ii) Physicians’ prescriptions are strictly adhered to in all cases.
    3. (c) The honourable member is referred to the reply to question 1315 put to the Minister of Law and Order and which should be read in conjunction with the details furnished in this reply.
    4. (d) All emergency regulation detainees entrusted to the care of the South African Prisons Service, are treated in a uniform and humane manner strictly in accordance with the stipulations of the Prisons Act, 1959 (Act No 8 of 1959) and the applicable Regulations.
      1. (aa) and (bb) fall away.
  5. (5) Yes
    1. (a) and (b) fall away.
Detainees: diet 1322. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Justice:

  1. (1) Whether the diet of detainees held in prison cells under emergency regulations complies with the standard of recommended daily allowance (RDA) laid down by the Department of National Health and Population Development; if not, (a) why not and (b) what standard of diet is used;
  2. (2) what (a) type and (b) quantity of prepared food is provided to such detainees at each specified meal;
  3. (3) whether the diet of such detainees differs with regard to (a) race, (b) (i) age and (ii) health and (c) detainees held in prison cells as opposed to police cells; if so, (aa) why and (bb) what are the differences in each case;
  4. (4) whether St Albans Prison, Port Elizabeth, complies with the above provisions regarding detainees held under emergency regulations; if not, (a) why not and (b) in what ways do they differ?
The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:
  1. (1) The diet provided to all prisoners (including emergency regulations detainees) is compiled by experts of the South African Prisons Service in co-operation with dieticians of the Department of National Health and Population Development and falls within the limits laid down by the American Recommended Daily Allowance.
    1. (a) and (b) fall away.
  2. (2) (a) and (b)
    The ration scale provides for different meal plans. Therefore, the choice of the majority of prisoners at each separate prison is applied. The preference of every individual prisoner/ detainee naturally cannot be satisfied.
    Breakfast and lunch is served according to a rotation menu of 7 days, whilst the evening meal is provided on a 11-day cycle. In this manner a greater variety is obtained to prevent monotony as far as possible.
    The following types of food may, for instance, be served as indicated:

BREAKFAST:

Servings per week

Raw quantities

Item

Men

Women

Maize meal

3X

120 g

80 g

Maltabella

3X

120 g

80 g

Oats

lX

120 g

80 g

Bread

7X

80 g

40 g

Margarine

7X

10 g

10 g

Coffee

7X

2g

2 g

Powdered milk or

7X

22,5 g

22,5 g

Fresh milk

7X

225 ml

225 ml

Sugar

7X

30 g

25 g

Jam or syrup

7X

10 g

10 g

Gravy

0 to 7X

15 g

15 g

Fresh fruit or

1X

115 g

115g

Dried fruit

1X

50 g

50 g

LUNCH:

Servings per week

Raw quantities

Item

Men

Women

Bread

5X

200 g

160 g

Margarine

5X

30 g

30 g

Peanut Butter

2X

20 g

20 g

Syrup or jam

2X

30 g

20 g

Eggs/egg powder

1X

50 g/12 g

50 g/12 g

Maize meal/samp/Mealie rice

2X

160 g

100 g

Soup (assorted flavours)

4X

280 ml

280 ml

Fruit drink (2 flavours)

3X

300 ml

300 ml

Gravy

2X

15 g

15 g

DINNER:

Servings per 11-day cycle

Raw quantities

Item

Men

Women

Maize meal

4X

60 g

40 g

Mealie rice

3X

60 g

40 g

Samp

4X

60 g

40 g

Vegetables

8X

290 g

235 g

*Vegetables

3X

225 g

182 g

Beef

1X

180 g

180 g

Pork

1X

180 g

180 g

Fish

2X

165 g

165 g

Chicken

2X

208 g

208 g

Eggs/egg powder

2X

100 g/24 g

100 g/24 g

Bolognaise

1X

50 g

40 g

Textured vegetable protein (assorted flavours)

2X

50 g

40 g

Tea

11X

2g

2g

Sugar

11X

10 g

10 g

Powdered milk or

11X

7,5 g

7,5 g

Fresh milk

11X

75 ml

75 ml

Gravy

8X

15 g

15 g

* On the days that textured vegetable protein products (including Bolognaise) are issued, the quantity of vegetables issued is reduced because the texturised plant protein products also contains vegetables.

Items such as salt, sugar, tomato puree, oil, bread flour, baking powder, curry, pepper, vinegar, etc. are used additionally in the preparation of the food.

Therefore, it is clear that detainees, like all other prisoners, receive a balanced diet, prepared in well-equipped and hygienic kitchens under strict supervision.

  1. (3)
    1. (a) No.
    2. (b) (i) and (ii)
      Medical officers may in terms of Prisons Regulations 114 (3) order, in respect of a specific prisoner, a deviation from the prescribed diet should it prove to be necessary for medical reasons. This implies that the medical officer may order that additional food would be provided due to health requirements which could be attached to age. These orders are meticulously complied with.
    3. (c) The honourable member is referred to the reply to question 1316 put to the Minister of Law and Order which should be read in conjunction with the details furnished in this reply.
  2. (4) Yes.
    1. (a) and (b) fall away.
Detainees: desks/chairs/adequate light 1323. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Justice:

  1. (1) Whether detainees held in prison cells under emergency regulations are provided with (a) desks, (b) chairs and (c) adequate light for the purpose of study; if not, why not; if so,
  2. (2) whether the provision of such items differs with regard to (a) race, (b) (i) age and (ii) health, (c) detainees held in prison cells as opposed to police cells and (d) other specified criteria; if so, (aa) why and (bb) what are the differences in each case;
  3. (3) whether St Albans Prison, Port Elizabeth, complies with the above provisions regarding detainees held under emergency regulations; if not, (a) why not and (b) in what ways do they differ?
The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) and (b)
      Circumstances determine from place to place which type of physical facilities are provided to detainees for study purposes. These circumstances include, for instance, the nature of cell accommodation, nature of available facilities and the number of prisoners.
    2. (c) In addition to natural daylight, all prisons are equipped with electrical lighting. Requests for better light provision may be directed to Heads of Prisons, who handle it with the necessary empathy within the limits of reasonableness.
  2. (2)
    1. (a) No.
    2. (b) No.
    3. (c) The honourable member is referred to the reply to question 1317 put to the Minister of Law and Order and which should be read in conjunction with the details furnished in this reply.
    4. (d) No.
  3. (3) Yes.
    1. (a) and (b) fall away.
Detainees: sports facilities 1324. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Justice:

  1. (1) Whether detainees held in prison cells under emergency regulations are permitted to use sports facilities available to ordinary prisoners; if not, (a) why not and (b) what provision is made for outdoor recreation for such detainees;
  2. (2) whether such detainees have access to (a) radios, (b) television, (c) videos and/or (d) other specified facilities; if not, (i) why not and (ii) what provision is made for indoor recreation for such detainees;
  3. (3) whether access to recreational facilities differs with regard to (a) race, (b) (i) age and (ii) health, (c) detainees held in prison cells as opposed to police cells and (d) other specified criteria; if so, (aa) why and (bb) what are the differences in each case;
  4. (4) whether St Albans Prison, Port Elizabeth, complies with the above provisions regarding detainees held under emergency regulations; if not, (a) why not and (b) in what ways do they differ?
The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:
  1. (1) As far as Regulation 3 of the Prison Emergency Regulations makes it possible, sport facilities for the emergency regulation detainees are the same as in the case of other prisoners.
    1. (a) and (b) Fall away.
  2. (2)
    1. (a) Radio programmes are relayed to all sections and cells by means of a master set, if available.
    2. (b) Yes, where available.
    3. (c) Video programmes are shown to detainees.
    4. (d) The following activities are encouraged where available:
      • — The use of libraries
      • — Listening to music tapes and records.
      • — Games for example draughts and finger board.
      1. (i) and (ii) Fall away.
  3. (3)
    1. (a) and (b) No.
    2. (c) The honourable member is referred to the reply to question 1318 put to the Minister of Law and Order and which should be read in conjunction with the details furnished in this reply.
    3. (d) No.
      1. (aa) and (bb) Fall away.
  4. (4) Yes.
    1. (a) and (b) Fall away.
Works branch: post of foreman 1363. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:

  1. (1) Whether the post of foreman of the works branch was at any time a post in respect of provincial building services falling under his control or that of a provincial administration; if so, (a) in which provinces and (b) during what specified period in each case;
  2. (2) whether this post still exists in any provinces; if so, (a) in which provinces, and (b) why in those provinces?
The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:

This matter vests in the Administrators of the different provinces and they furnish the following information.

Cape Province:

  1. (1) Yes.
    1. (a) Cape Province
    2. (b) 1971 to 1983
  2. (2) No, not in the Cape Province.

Orange Free State:

  1. (1) Yes.
    1. (a) Province of the Orange Free State
    2. (b) At all times.
  2. (2) Yes.
    1. (a) Province of the Orange Free State.
    2. (b) Permanent posts on the establishment of the Chief Directorate of Works of the Orange Free State Provincial Administration. The need for the posts concerned does exist.

Transvaal:

  1. (1) Yes, if the reference to Foreman concerns the present designation of Artisan Foreman.
    1. (a) Transvaal Provincial Administration.
    2. (b) Since 1 February 1959.
  2. (2) Yes.
    1. (a) Transvaal Provincial Administration.
    2. (b) Because there is a need for such posts at supervisory level.

Natal:

  1. (1) (a) and (b)
    Prior to 1 August 1986, posts of Foreman within the personnel structure of the Natal Provincial Administration were provincial posts as distinct from Public Service posts. Incumbents were appointed in terms of the relevant Natal ordinances.
  2. (2) Yes. All posts of Foreman on the establishment of the Natal Provincial Administration became Public Service posts with effect from 1 August 1986 and the incumbents were transferred to the Public Service. Ranks and salary scales did not change.
    1. (a) Natal.
    2. (b) On 1 February 1983, on the recommendation of the Commission for Administration, the posts of Foreman were dispensed with but on 1 April 1984 they were recreated and Artisan personnel were promoted to these posts.
Diaz/Huguenot/Great Trek festivals 1382. Mr K M ANDREW

asked the Minister of National Education:

  1. (1) Whether his Department has contributed or intends to contribute to the (a) Diaz, (b) Huguenot and/or (c) Great Trek festivals; if so,(i) in what way, (ii) when, (iii) why, and (iv) at what cost, in each case;
  2. (2) whether any outside organizations or agencies were allocated funds by his Department in respect of these festivals; if so, (a) which organizations or agencies and (b) (i) what amount was allocated, and (ii) why, in each case?
The MINISTER OF NATIONAL EDUCATION:
  1. (1) No. However, in my capacity as Chairman of the Ministers’ Council of the House of Assembly I will furnish particulars of expenditure by the Administration: House of Assembly on the respective festivals:
    1. (i) (a) (b) (c)
      In respect of national festivals financial grants were made to national organising committees and in respect of other festivals to regional and local organising committees.
    2. (ii) (a) (b) (c)
      On various occasions between 11 April 1985 and 31 July 1988 contributions were made. Further contributions are still to be considered.
    3. (iii) (a) (b) (c)
      It was considered that a contribution by the State would be warranted in view of the important cultural contribution constituted by the festivals.
    4. (iv) The costs involved in the national festivals up to 31 July 1988 are the following:

(a)

Dias

R1 963 000

(b)

Huguenot

R950 000

(c)

Great Trek

R550 000

  1. (2) No. However, the position in respect of the Administration: House of Assembly is as follows:
    1. (a) The funds have been granted to the respective national, regional and local organising committees of the festivals.
    2. (b)
      1. (i) As regards the national festivals amounts as indicated in 1 (iv) have been paid to the national organising committees for the three festivals. Depending on the scope of festival activities further subsidies have been granted to regional and local organising committees in accordance with an approved subsidy formula, and further grants may still be made in the future. Amounts already approved range from R75 to R5 000 per festival. Up to 31 July 1988, a total of R23 387 was paid out for these purposes.
      2. (ii) In order to enable the organising committees concerned to organise specific festivals.
Operational area: persons killed 1391. Mr A GERBER

asked the Minister of Defence:†

(a) How many (i) Whites, (ii) Coloureds, (iii) Indians and (iv) Blacks were killed as a result of Defence Force or directly related action in the operational area in each year from 1980 up to and including 1988 and (b) in respect of what date is this information for 1988 furnished?

The MINISTER OF DEFENCE:

(a) and (b)

The honourable member is referred to paragraph (a) (i) of the reply in this House to written question number 156 of 1988.

Air pollution: regulations 1421. Mr C B SCHOEMAN

asked the Minister of National Health and Population development:

  1. (1) Whether the regulations regarding air pollution are applied equally to White and Black residential areas; if not, (a) why not and (b) what exceptions are made;
  2. (2) whether his Department keeps statistics on the prosecutions instituted in respect of contraventions of these regulations; if not, (a) why not and (b) where can such statistics be obtained; if so, how many (i) such prosecutions were instituted, and (ii) convictions were obtained, in each of the latest specified five years for which information is available?
The MINISTER OF NATIONAL HEALTH AND POPULATION DEVELOPMENT:
  1. (1) Yes, regulations are applicable to all local authorities who have requested that their areas of jurisdiction be declared smoke control areas in terms ofthe Atmospheric Pollution Act, 1965 (Act 45 of 1965),
    1. (a) falls away
    2. (b) falls away
  2. (2) No,
    1. (a) each local authority is fully responsible for smoke control in its area of jurisdiction and is not required to provide this Department with such statistics,
    2. (b) statistics can be obtained directly from the local authorities controlling smoke in their areas of jurisdiction.
      1. (i) falls away.
      2. (ii) falls away.
Main line rail passengers 1425. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

How many (a) first and (b) third class rail passengers travelled on the (i) Johannesburg/Durban and (ii) Johannesburg/Cape Town main line during each of the latest specified five years for which figures are available?

The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:

1986/87 Financial year

1987/88 Financial year

(a)

(i)

80 311

70 153

(ii)

90 178

76 351

Information prior to 1 April 1986 is not available.

(b) (i) and (ii) Information is not available.

Pension fund benefits: State commitment 1432. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of National Health and Population Development:

(a) What, in rand terms, is the commitment of the State regarding pension fund benefits to existing White, Coloured and Indian State employees and (b) in respect of what date is this information furnished?

The MINISTER OF NATIONAL HEALTH AND POPULATION DEVELOPMENT:
  1. (a) As employer, the State is committed to-contribute to the following pension funds:
    The Government Service Pension Fund (GSPF)
    The temporary Employees Pension Fund (TEPF)
    The Associated Institutions Pension Fund (AIPF)
    Contributions are made in respect of all population groups who are members of the funds. Particulars of the contribution in respect of each population groups is not available.
    The State’s commitment for the 1986/87 financial year was:
    GSPF: R1 304 800 568 (including contributions by Provinces and Post and Telecommunications).
    TEPF: R123 440 433 (other contributions paid by various institutions from own funds).
    AIPF: R322 152 (other contributions paid by various institutions from own funds).
  2. (b) 1/4/86 to 30/3/87
Pension fund benefits: State commitment 1433. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of National Health and Population Development:

(a) What, in rand terms, is the commitment of the State regarding pension fund benefits to existing Black State employees and (b) in respect of what date is this information furnished?

The MINISTER OF NATIONAL HEALTH AND POPULATION DEVELOPMENT:

Particulars of the contributions in respect of each population group are not available. The Honourable Member is referred to the reply to question 1432.

  1. (a) Falls away and
  2. (b) falls away.
State/parastatal pension funds: contributions 1434. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of National Health and Population Development:

What was the total contribution to State and parastatal pension funds in respect of State and parastatal employees during each of the latest specified 10 years for which figures are available?

The MINISTER OF NATIONAL HEALTH AND POPULATION DEVELOPMENT:

YEARS

TOTAL CONTRIBUTION (by employers and employees) R

1977/1978

412 459 698

1978/1979

479 733 715

1979/1980

540 640 518

1980/1981

729 997 349

1981/1982

914 001 263

1982/1983

1 153 798 683

1983/1984

1 385 605 499

1984/1985

1 780 210 390

1985/1986

1 955 912 889

1986/1987

2 337 298 700

These figures are in respect of the following pension funds:

Government Service Pension Fund

Temporary Employees Pension Fund

Associated Institution Pension Fund

Johannesburg shunting yard: fire 1439. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

  1. (1) What was the cost of repairing the damage caused by a fire allegedly started by vagrants at the Johannesburg Shunting yard on or about 15 July 1988;
  2. (2) whether any additional security measures are being applied to prevent recurrences of this nature; if not, why not; if so, what measures?
The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:
  1. (1) Two main line passenger coaches with an outstanding capital value of R65 242 were damaged to such an extent that both are destined to be scrapped. The cost to repair the three other coaches is estimated at R30 000.
  2. (2) Yes, inspectorate and personnel were again requested to be on the alert for vagrants trespassing in shunting yards and to report all instances to the SA Police immediately.
    The SA Police has been requested to visit shunting yards more frequently at irregular intervals in order to investigate possible instances of trespassing.
SAA: resignation of pilots 1445. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

(a) How many pilots resigned from the South African Airways (i) during each of the latest specified five financial years and (ii) in 1988 as at the latest specified date, for which figures are available and (b) what were the reasons given for these resignations in each case?

The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:

(a)

(i)

(b)

1983/84

Other commitments

1

Unknown

2

Started own business

2

5

1984/85

Personal

1

1985/86

Started own business

1

Emigrated

1

2

1986/87

Political

1

Religious

1

Unknown

1

Emigrated

1

4

1987/88

Personal

6

Emigrated

1

7

(ii)

1 April 1988

Emigrated

1

to 31 August

Joined other airlines

3

1988

Unknown

1

5

Krugersdorp Prison: decision on old prison buildings 1466. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Justice:

Whether a decision has been taken on the future use of the old prison buildings at Krugersdorp Prison; if not, why not; if so, what is this decision?

The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:

Yes. The relevant buildings are to be converted into single quarters for personnel of the South African Prisons Service.

For the information of the Honourable member it can be added that provision has already been made during the planning stage for the historical significance of the buildings to be retained. A private contractor is undertaking the work.

Krugersdorp Prison: accommodation for warders 1447. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Justice:

Whether the Prisons Service provides accommodation for (a) White and (b) non-White warders serving at Krugersdorp Prison; if not, why not; if so, (i) what accommodation, and (ii) where, in each case?

The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:
  1. (a) Yes.
    1. (i) Accommodation for married and unmarried personnel.
    2. (ii) On the Prison Reserve.
  2. (b) Yes.
    1. (i) Temporary accommodation for unmarried personnel.
    2. (ii) In a section of the new prison which has temporarily been adapted for this purpose until single quarters can be furnished on the prison reserve on a permanent basis.
Detainees: privileges 1448. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Justice:

Whether detainees held in prison cells in terms of security legislation are accorded any privileges over and above those accorded to other prisoners; if so, what are the relevant details?

The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:

The Honourable Member’s question is not clear.

Firstly there is no indication as to whether the comparison which he hasin mind is between “detainees” and sentenced prisoners of between“detainees” and awaiting trial (unsentenced) prisoners or both.

Secondly the question does not specify which category of detainees he requires more information about, for example Emergency Regulations detainees or detainees being held in terms of section 29 of the Internal Security Act, 1982 (Act 74 of 1982) etc.

The term privileges as it is used in the questions is also open to different interpretations and it is therefore suggested that the Honourable Member must also be more specific on this point.

In general it can however be confirmed that all prisoners entrusted to the care of the South African Prisons Service are treated in a humane and responsible manner strictly in accordance with the stipulations of the Prisons Act, 1959 (Act 8 of 1959), the relevant regulations and the other legislation concerned.

Eastern Cape Film Festival sponsored by SAA 1450. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

Whether the South African Airways sponsored the recent Eastern Cape Film Festival in any way; if so, what are the relevant details?

The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:

No.

SAA: technical staff members 1451. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

  1. (1) (a) How many technical staff members were in the employ of the South African Airways in each of the latest specified five years for which figures are available and (b) how many man-hours did they work in each of these years;
  2. (2) (a) how many hours of overtime did these members work in each of these years and (b) what were the reasons for overtime having to be worked?
The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:

1 Aug. 1985/ 31 July 1986

1 Aug. 1986/ 31 July 1987

1 Aug. 1987/ 31 July 1988

(1) (a)

2 323

2 109

1 980

(b)

4 265 164

3 920 283

3 681 931

(2) (a)

380 577

471 597

468 181

(b) Flight schedule coverage over weekends and normal fluctuation in maintenance-activities.

Information is only being kept since 1 August 1985.

Own Affairs:

Housing: amounts spent 173. Mr A GERBER

asked the Minister of Local Government and Housing:†

What amounts were spent by his Department on the erection of housing for Whites in the Republic in the 1985-86, 1986-87 and 1987-88 financial years, respectively?

The MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND HOUSING.

Amounts spent on the housing terrain in the respective financial years from the Development and Housing Fund on the erection and development of housing for Whites in the Republic are as follows:

(a) Spending in respect of the 33⅓% interest subsidy scheme for first time home owners:

Financial Year

Spending

1985 - 1986

R4 751 769

1986- 1987

R11 415 152

1987 - 1988

R17 922 109

(b) Further spending includes contributions in repect of the 3% home owner saving scheme, 90% loan scheme, pilot projects undertaken by the Department, welfare housing as well as the provision and upgrading of infrastructure:

Financial Year

Spending

1985 - 1986

R107 164 298

1986 - 1987

R88 594 214

1987- 1988

R91 204 460

RSA: teachers in schools 174. Mr K M ANDREW

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

  1. (1) (a) How many White teachers were employed by his Department in (i) primary, (ii) secondary and (iii) high schools in the Republic as at the latest specified date for which figures are available and (b) what was the decrease or increase in numbers for each type of school compared to those as at a date one year earlier;
  2. (2) what percentage of such teachers is in possession of a (a) university degree, (b) teaching diploma, (c) matriculation certificate and (d) junior certificate?
The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:

CAPE

  1. (1)
    1. (a) As on 31 March 1988
      1. (i) 6 573
      2. (ii) 79
      3. (iii) 8 605
    2. (b)
      1. (i) decrease of 204
      2. (ii) decrease of 24
      3. (iii) increase of 61.
  2. (2) the information is not readily available.

NATAL

  1. (1) As on 30 August 1988
    1. (a)
      1. (i) 3 160
      2. (ii) and (iii) 2 931
    2. (b)
      1. (i) decrease of 70
      2. (ii) and (iii) decrease of 21.

(2)

Primary

Secondary

(a)

9,9%

62,9%

(b)

94,9%

43,7%

(c)

100%

100%

(d)

100%

100%

OFS

  1. (1) As on 12 August 1988
    1. (a)
      1. (i) 1 795
      2. (ii) and (iii) 2 341*
    2. (b)
      1. (i) decrease of 18
      2. (ii) and (iii) decrease of 10
  2. (2) The information is not readily available

TRANSVAAL

  1. (1) As on 31 December 1987
    1. (a)
      1. (i) 12 794
      2. (ii) and (iii) 12 401
    2. (b)
      1. (i) decrease of 461
      2. (ii) and (iii) increase of 70.

(2)

Primary

Secondary

(a)

12%

58%

(b)

100%

90%

(c)

100%

100%

(d)

100%

100%

* For the purpose of this answer, schools which have primary and secondary components have been classified as high schools.

Personnel or schools of special education are not reflected in this answer.

Teachers/administrative staff 180. Mr R J LORIMER

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

How many (a) teachers and (b) administrative staff were employed by each of the provincial education departments as at the latest specified date for which information is available?

The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:

(a)

(b)

Cape

16 379

2 262

as on 1988-03-31

Natal

7 022

937

as on 1988-08-01

OFS

5 134

650

as on 1988-08-12

Tvl

26 918

7 172

(a) as on 1987-12-31

(b) as on 1988-03-31

Teachers: resignations 182. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

(a) How many (i) male and (ii) female teachers in each grade resigned in each of the latest specified five years for which figures are available and (b) what categories of reasons were given for these resignations?

The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (a) This Department does not keep record of teachers according to “grade”. The information is therefore not available;
  2. (b) falls away.
Group Areas Act: families moved 183. Mr S S VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Local Government and Housing:

With reference to the reply by the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning to Question No 92 on 25 February 1985, how many families in each race group in each province (a) had been moved from their homes in White group areas in terms of the Group Areas Act since its commencement as at the latest specified date for which information is available and (b) remained to be moved as at that date?

The MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND HOUSING:

The administration of the Group Areas Act vests in the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning.

  1. (a) Falls away.
  2. (b) Falls away.