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House of Assembly: Vol7 - WEDNESDAY 15 JUNE 1988

WEDNESDAY, 15 JUNE 1988 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY

†Indicates translated version.

For written reply:

General Affairs:

Group Areas Act: complaints regarding offences 946. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) (a) How many complaints regarding offences in terms of the Group Areas Act, No 36 of 1966, were (i) received and (ii) investigated by the South African Police in 1982, 1984 and 1985, respectively, and (b) (i) in how many cases were the Police investigations into such complaints completed, and (ii) what action was taken in respect of uncompleted investigations into such complaints, in each of these years;
  2. (2) how many members of the South African Police were involved in investigating complaints of this nature in each of the above-mentioned years?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

1982

1984

1985

(1)

(a)

(i)

823

662

596

(ii)

823

662

596

(b)

(i)

823

662

595

(ii)

1 case has been referred to the Department of Constitutional Developement and Planning.

(2)

1982

18 members

1984

36 members

1985

15 members
Necklacing murders 967. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) How many persons died by way of the so-called necklacing method in (a) 1984, (b) 1985, (c) 1986 and (d) 1987;
  2. (2) how many persons were charged with murder resulting from such deaths in each of these years?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

(1)

(a)

and (b) 67 persons

(c)

306 persons

(d)

19 persons

(2)

1984/85

373 persons

1986

628 persons

1987

120 persons

NOTE Separate statistics are not available for 1984 and 1985.

 PWV area: offences 1024. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) (a) How many police districts are there in the PWV area and (b) what are their names;
  2. (2) how many cases of (a) murder, (b) culpable homicide, (c) rapes, (d) assault with intent to do grievous bodily harm and (e) common assault were reported and investigated at police stations in these police districts in (i) 1982 and (ii) the latest specified calendar year for which information is available?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) (a) 17 police districts which fall under the command of fie Divisional commissioners.
    1. (b) WITWATERSRAND DIVISION

      Johannesburg

      Johannesburg North

      Randburg

      WEST RAND DIVISION

      Krugersdorp

      Vereeniging Roodepoort EAST RAND DIVISION

      Springs Brakpan Benoni Kempton Park Germiston Heidelberg SOWETO DIVISION

      Soweto West

      Soweto East

      N. TRANSVAAL DIVISION

      Pretoria

      Pretoria North

      Pretoria Moot

  2. (2) These 17 police districts are divided into 113 police station areas. To compile the information required by the honourable member for each station aea is not only a time-consuming task, but also so comprehensive that it cannot be accounted for economically. Therefore, compounded statistics for each of the five Polie Divisions, which are readily available, are furnished:

(a)

(i) 1982/83

(ii) 1987

Witwatersrand

478

673

West Rand

465

602

East Rand

1088

848

Soweto

707

780

Northern Transvaal

228

280

(b)

Witwatersrand

520

468

West Rand

721

816

East Rand

1020

1083

Soweto

914

846

Northern Transvaal

481

522

(c)

Witwatersrand

620

761

West Rand

853

1156

East Rand

1318

1375

Soweto

1170

1464

Northern Transvaal

972

1105

(d)

Witwatersrand

2954

3030

West Rand

6001

6855

East Rand

9362

8860

Soweto

6856

5197

Northern Transvaal

4689

4982

(e)

Witwatersrand

6362

7316

West Rand

5535

6767

East Rand

9891

7988

Soweto

5267

5880

Northern Transvaal

8090

9391
Offenses 1085. Mr D J N MALCOMESS

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

How many cases of (a) murder, (b) culpable homicide, (c) assault with intent to do grievous bodily harm, (d) common assault, (e) rape, (f) robbery, (g) theft of vehicles and cycles, (h) malicious damage to property, (i) housebreaking with intent to steal and theft and (j) possession of drugs were reported at each specified police station in the Krom River/St Francis Bay area in 1987?

 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

(a)

(b)

(c)

(d)

(e)

(f)

(g)

(h)

(i)

(j)

HUMANSDORP

13

5

140

48

12

13

26

36

150

60

ST FRANCIS BAY

2

3

12

8

3

0

7

3

116

18

KAREEDOUW

2

0

64

32

2

0

4

0

38

0

NOTE St Francis Bay has a mobile police station which is in the Humansdorp police area.

 Debt: long-term/short-term 1118. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Economic Affairs and Technology:

  1. (1) What was the total long-term and/or short-term debt of his Department as at the end of the (a) (i) 1982-83 and (ii) 1984-85 financial years and (b) latest specified financial year for which figures are available;
  2. (2) how much of this debt in each such financial year was attributable to foreign exchange losses?
 The MINISTER OF ECONOMIC AFFAIRS AND TECHNOLOGY:
  1. (1) (a) (i) and (ii) Nil
    1. (b) Nil
  2. (2) Falls away.
 SAP: numbers 1139. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

How many (a) Whites, (b) Coloureds, (c) Indians and (d) Blacks were employed by the South African Police as at 31 December 1982?

 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

to (d) 38 623 members of all races

 Assaults: senior citizens 1147. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

(a) How many white senior citizens were criminally assaulted in the Republic in each of the latest specified five years for which figures are available, (b) how many of these assaults occurred in White residential areas and (c) how many of these citizens were murdered in such assaults in (i) White residential areas and (ii) the Republic?

 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

Statistics are not kept in respect of the age of crime victims and the specific area where the crime was committed.

 Departmental documents: custody 1157. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of National Education:

  1. (1) Whether his Department issues guidelines to Government Departments in connection with the safe custody of departmental documents; if so, (a) what precautions are taken to ensure that such documents are not removed or destroyed without permission and (b) for what period are these documents retained by the Departments concerned;
  2. (2) whether, after the period referred to above, departmental documents are tranferred to the archives falling under his Department; if so, (a) what categories of documents are so transferred, (b) (i) who decides on the categories of documents to be kept or destroyed and (ii) what are the criteria applied in this regard, (c) what system is used in classifying these documents, (d) (i) for what period are such documents closed to public scrutiny and (ii) why was this period decided upon and (e) what method is used to ensure that no documents are removed without permission;
  3. (3) whether his Department has made a study of the procedure followed in other western countries in regard to the periods for which deparmental documents are closed to public scrutiny; if so, (a) what other countries were involved and (b) how do these periods compare with the practice followed in South Africa;
  4. (4) whether there is a central register enumerating and detailing records of all current documentation in each Government Department; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details?
 The MINISTER OF NATIONAL EDUCATION:
  1. (1) Yes. Directions in this connection are contained in instructions issued by the Director of Archives in accordance with section 3 (2) (a) and (b) of the Archives Act, 1962 (Act 6 of 1962), to offices falling under the Archives Act.
    1. (a) The instructions mentioned above, require the head of an office to take the necessary measures for the safe custody and care of its archives until they can be transferred to the appropriate archives depot or until they may be destroyed under an authority issued by the director of Archives in terms of section 3 (2) (b) of the Archives Act. Staff of the State Archives Service also periodically carry out inspections to ensure that the instructions are carried out.
    2. (b) Section 6 of the Archives Act provides that archives that are thirty years old or older shall be transferred to an archives depot. In terms of section 6 (a) (i) the Minister of National Education may, however, authorize the head of an office to retain his archives, or a part thereof, for a certain period. In terms of section 6 (b) (i) the Director of Archives may, in turn, defer the transfer of archives until such time as he deems fit, besides which he may in terms of section 6 (b) (ii) authorize the transfer of archives that are less than thirty years old.
  2. (2) Yes, with the exception of those archives which the Minister of National Education has authorized the head of an office in terms of section 6 (a) (i) to retain for a certain period and those the transfer of which the Director of Archives has deferred in terms of section 6 (b) (i).
    1. (a) All documents which, in the opinion of the Director of Archives, should be preserved permanently, except those whose retention for a longer period in the offices concerned has, as indicted above, been authorized. At the lapse of these authorities, the documents of such offices adjudged worthy of preservation are also transferred to an archives depot.
    2. (b) (i) The Director of Archives. In practice this is done in consultation with the head of the particular office.
      1. (ii) Whether it is essential to preserve the documents for the proper continuation of the administration of the country and whether the documents have sufficient research value to be used by researchers.
    3. (c) The internationally accepted principle of origin according to which the order that the documents had in the officer of origin is maintained or is restored if that order has been disturbed.
    4. (d) (i) Thirty years with the exception of those archives which the Minister of National Education has authorized the head of an office in terms of section 6 (a) (i) to retain for a certain period and those the transfer of which the Director of Archives has deferred in terms of section 6 (b) (i).
      1. (ii) The Legislature in its wisdom has decided on the thirty-year period. It is assumed that the reason for this is that documents less than thirty years old are often of too sensitive a nature to be made available.
    5. (e) Documents are only made available to researchers under continuous supervision in the reading rooms of archives depots.
  3. (3) Yes.
    1. (a) All the leading countries in the archival field such as Britian, the Netherlands, Germany and France.
    2. (b) A closed period of thirty years is accepted as realistic, and applied, in most of these countries.
  4. (4) No. The enormous volume of the documentation makes the compilation of such a central register impractical and undesirable. In most Government offices there are, however, filing systems which have been approved by the Director of Archives in terms of section 3 (2) (i) of the Archives Act and according to which the documents are systematically kept and cared for. This is a matter that constantly receives the attention of the Director of Archives.
 SAP: group areas 1161. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether members of the South African Police are in the course of their duties authorized to issue warnings in connection issued over the latest specified five-year period for which information is available;
  2. (2) whether these warning gave rise to further action being taken; if so, to what further action?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) No
  2. (2) Falls away
 Woodstock: gathering 1183. Mr S S VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether, with reference to the report in terms of the Internal Security Act, No 74 of 1982, tabled by him on 16 May 1988, he will furnish details about gathering in Woodstock on 29 April 1988 during the course of which the persons attending it were ordered to dispense if not why no; if so, (a) what was the nature of the gathering, (b) how many persons were present, (c) by whom had it been called (d) (i) at what time of day and (ii) where in Woodstock was it held and (e) (i) who ordered the persons attending it to disperse and (ii) why was this order given;
  2. (2) Whether any further action was taken or is to be taken as a result of this gathering; if so, (a) what action, (b) when, (c) why and (d) against whom?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) Yes
    1. (a) to (e) At 12h03 on 29 April 1988 approximately 50 persons of all races held an illegal gathering in Porter Street, Woodstock in protest against the new labour legislation. An officer of the South African Police ordered the persons to disperse, as it was an illegal gathering. The persons obeyed the order and dispersed.
  2. (2) Yes

    (a) to (d) A charge in terms of section 2(1) of the Gathering and Demonstration Act, 1973 (Act 52 of 1973) was lodged and is at present being investigated. As soon as the investigation has been completed, the case docket will be submitted to the Senior State Prosecutor for his decision.

 Tugela Ferry police station: offences 1185. Mr P C CRONJÉ

asked the Minister of Law and Order:†

(a) How many cases of (i) murder, (ii) culpable homicide and (iii) assault with intent to do grivous bodily harm were reported at the Tugela Ferry police station in each of the latest specified five calendar years for which information is available and (b) in how many cases were persons charged in each of these three categories of offences?

 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

1983

1984

1985

1986

1987

(a)

(b)

(a)

(b)

(a)

(b)

(a)

(b)

(a)

(b)

(i)

99

19

105

28

56

16

89

24

76

32

(ii)

10

4

10

1

12

3

5

4

2

—

(iii)

115

86

90

59

136

102

101

70

89

66

NOTE Statsitics are furnished in respect of the number of cases and referred to the courts for trial. In some cases more than one person was charged. However, these statistics are not readily available and are therefore not furnished.

 Joint Matriculation Board: examinations 1222. Mr K M ANDREW

asked Minister of National Education:

  1. (a) How many (i) Black, (ii) White, (iii) Coloured and (iv) Indian candidates wrote the (aa) matriculation and (bb) school-leaving examinations of the Joint Matriculation Board in 1987 and (b) how many such candidates (i) passed and (ii) failed their examinations?
 The MINISTER OF THE NATIONAL EDUCATION:
  1. (a) All candidates write the examination of the JMB. According to the achievement in the examination, matriculation or school-leaving certificates are issued to candidates.

(a) and (bb)

Number that wrote

(i) Blacks

485

(ii) Whites

166

(iii) Coloureds

52

(iv) Indians

43
  1. (b) (i) Number passed (ii) Number failed Matriculation school-leaving

(i) Blacks

93

135

257

(ii) Whites

921

192

53

(iii) Coloureds

27

15

10

(iv) Indians

24

12

7
Cabinet Ministers: police protection 1241. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether he will furnish information on the cost of providing police protection to Cabinet Ministers at public meetings; if not why not; if so, what was the cost so incurred (a) in 1985, 1986 and 1987, respectively, and (b) in 1988 as at the latest specified date for which figures are available;
  2. (2) what was the cost incurred in respect of the meeting held by the (a) State President in Potgietersrus in 1986, (b) Minister of Foreign Affairs in Pietersburg in 1986 and (c) Minister of National Education in Randfontein in 1988?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

(1) and (2)

Section 5 of the Police Act, 1958 (Act 7 of 1958) stipulates that the South African Police is responsible for inter alia the maintenance of law and order, as well as the prevention of crime. Police protection rendered to the State President, all Ministers, Deputy Ministers, Leaders of Opposition parties and members of Parliament, falls within the ambit of the said provisions and is performed during the course of normal police duties. Expenses incurred in this regard are therefore not separately identified and calculated.

 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

†Indicates translated version

For oral reply:

General Affairs

Questions standing over from Wednesday, 8 June 1988:

Air hostesses: interviews for employment *1. Mr W J DIETRICH

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

  1. (1) Whether prospective air hostesses are interviewed; if so, (a) by whom and (b) what qualifications are the interviewers required to have;
  2. (2) whether all interviewers meet these qualification requirements; if not, (a) why not and (b) what exceptions are allowed;
  3. (3) whether all prospective air hostesses are interviewed by the same category of interviewers; if not, why not; if so, what are the particulars of the category of interviewers involved;
  4. (4) whether the public relations department of the South African Airways intends appointing an employment advisor; if not, why not; if so, when?
 †The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:
  1. (1) Yes.
    1. (a) and (b) Interviews are conducted by a selection committee which consists of a senior officer who is a qualified employment officer, one fully trained senior cabin services co-ordinator and a manpower consultant.
  2. (2) Yes.
    1. (a) and (b) Fall away.
  3. (3) Yes.

    The hon member’s attention is directed to the reply given to part 1(a) and (b) of the question.

  4. (4) No. Use is made of South African Transport Services manpower consultants on an ad hoc basis.
 Mr W J DIETRICH:

Mr Chairman, arising out of the hon the Minister’s reply, may I ask him what qualifications the interviewers are required to have and, secondly, whether colour plays a role in the appointment of these air hostesses?

 The MINISTER:

Mr Chariman, the committee consists of the officials that I mentioned. The senior cabin services officer is in-service trained. The other senior officer, who is a qualified employment officer, also received in-service training. The manpower consultant, however, has to be a person with a university degree. The requirement at the moment is that that particular person must have at least an honours degree.

As regards the hon member’s second question, I should like to say that we have, in Cape Town, a manpower consultant on our staff who is Coloured. He can be a member of the committee, of course. At the moment he is not, but there is nothing to prevent his being appointed to the committee should the need arise. The appointments are made on merit and such an appointment could well be made in future.

 Defence Force: training centre *2. Mr T R GEORGE

asked the Minister of Defence:

  1. (1) Whether the South African Defence Force intends to establish a training centre in Johannesburg similar to 1 Special Service Unit at Kimberley; if not, why not; is so, (a) what are the relevant details and (b) what total amount has been allocated and/or is it estimated will be allocated for this purpose;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
 †The DEPUTY MINISTER OF DEFENCE:
  1. (1) No. The unit was established in Kimberley because of its central location and the training facilities available for this specific training. It is not at present possible to establish similar units at other centres in the country.
  2. (2) No.
 Identity documents: delays *3. Mr T R GEORGE

asked the Minister of Home Affairs:

  1. (1) Whether the finalization of any application for identity documents was delayed during the latest specified period of 12 months for which information is avialable, owing to (a) photographs accompanying such applications having been mislaid by, and (b) other mistakes on the part of, his Department; if so, (i) in how many cases were such photographs mislaid and (ii) what is the nature of the other mistakes made in this regard;
  2. (2) whether applicants whose photographs were so mislaid will be reimbursed; if not, why not; if so, (a) when and (b) what procedure will be followed in this regard;
  3. (3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
 The CHAIRMAN OF THE MINISTER’S COUNCIL

(for the Minister of Home Affairs):

  1. (1) to (3) During the period 1 April 1987 to 31 March 1988 a total of 3 358 321 applications for identity documents was processed by the different offices of the Department of Home Affairs.

    There were delays in some of the applications due to the applications, for example, not being duly completed or due to supporting documentation being lacking. Instances also occurred where photographs of applicants were lacking or were damaged. In all these instances enquiries had to be addressed to the applicants which inevitably caused delays.

    The percentage of applications received from Whites, Indians and Coloureds which led to enquiries was approximately 3%. In the case of Blacks it was approximately 33%.

    Clerical errors, as for example incorrect encoding of particulars in applications and the entering of incorrect particulars into the computer, also occurred. Approximately 0,01% of the total number of applications received was delayed through clerical errors.

    Where photographs of applicants are damaged or lost during the processing of the applications, the Department reimburses applicants who have incurred expenses to again furnish the Department with a set of photographs.

    Statistics regarding the particular nature of each type of deficiency which leads to enquiries to applicants for identity documents, are not being kept. However, according to the records of the Department, six persons submitted claims during the past financial year for reimbursement in respect of the replacement of lost photographs.

    If it transpires that the Department had been responsible for the loss or damage of an applicant’s photographs, a claim, accompanied by a receipt from the photographer who took the further set of photographs, can be submitted by the person concerned to the Department.

    The Department does everything in its power to finalise applications for identity documents as soon as possible and with the least possible inconvenience to applicants. The Department is especially mindful of the fact that the handling of vast numbers of applications for identity documents can lead to clerical errors. Control measures to keep clerical errors to a minimum, are regularly reviewed and, where necessary, substituted or revised.

    New Question:

 SAP: complaints by late member for Alra Park *1. Mr W J DIETRICH

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether the late member for Alra Park laid any complaints with the South African Police; if so, (a) when, (b) where and (c) what was the purport of these complaints;
  2. (2) whether the Police investigated these complaints to establish the veracity of the allegations contained in them; if not why not ; if so, (a) when and (b) what were their findings;
  3. (3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
 †The DEPUTY MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) Yes
    1. (a) February 1986

      21 April 1987

      12 June 1987

      19 July 1987

    2. (b) Alberton police station
    3. (c) Housebreaking at his residence; Malicious damage to property when the tyres of his car were damaged; Illegal sub-lefting of Government-subsidised houses and Malicious damage to property when his motor-vehicle caught fire.
  2. (2) Yes
    1. (a) Immediately after every complaint was received.
    2. (b) with regard to the first three complaints the perpetrators have not yet been traced. With regard to the last complaint, it was ascertained that an electrical fault caused the fire and that nobody could beheld responsible for this fire.
  3. (3) No

Own Affairs:

Question standing over from Wednesday, 25 May 1988.

 *2. Mr C R Redcliffe

— Education and Culture. [Question standing over.]

Reason for Question standing over:

 The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:

Mr Chairman, I ask that the questions stand over further. I may mention just for theinformation of the House that because of the development arising out of the forthcoming elections, the whole question of regulations is being reviewed.

Questions standing over from Wednesday, 8 June 1988:

 Riverlea: clinics *1. Mr T R GEORGE

asked the Minister of Health Services and Welfare:

  1. (1) Whether any upgrading of the clinics in Riverlea and Riverlea Extension 1 is envisaged by his Department; if not, why not; if so, (a) what are the relevant details and (b) what total amount has been allocated and/or is it estimated will be Allocated for this purposes;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
 The MINISTER OF HEALTH SERVICES AND WELFARE:
  1. (1) The upgrading of climcs in Riverlea and Riverlea Extension 1 is not envisaged. Health Services are provided by the Transvaal Provincial Administration.
    1. (a) Fall away
    2. (b) Fall away
  2. (2) No.
 Coloured Management Committee: Johannesburg *2. Mr T R GEORGE

asked the Minister of Local Government, Housing and Agriculture:

  1. (1) Whether the Johannesburg Coloured Management Committee falls under the control of his Department; if not; (a) why not and (b) under whose control does it fall; if so, to what extent;
  2. (2) whether the work done by the persons elected to this committee is monitored; if not, why not; if so, (a) by whom and (b) in what manner;
  3. (3) whether the work so done meets the required standards;
  4. (4) whether he will maked statement on the matter?
 The MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, HOUSING AND AGRICULTURE:
  1. (1) No.
    1. (a) The Management Committee resorts under the jurisdiction of the Johannesburg Municipality, since the Management Committee area is situated within the municipal boundaries of the aforementioned Municipality.
    2. (b) The Municipality of Johannesburg. The Municipality controls all affairs within the boundaries of the Management Committee area, with the exception of the following powers delegated to the management Committee:
      1. (i) The appointment of staff.
      2. (ii) The letting of municipal dwellings, shops, kiosks, and halls and the sale of municipal dwellings.
      3. (iii) Nomination of delegates to congresses.
      4. (iv) The issuing of notices to owners for the removal of obstructions and nuisances on their properties.
      5. (v) Graning of permission to persons to perform services for the removal and disposal of nightsoil or refuse.
      6. (vi) The approval of tenders.
      7. (vii) To allocate and change names of streets and suburbs.
      8. (viii) To award study bursaries.
      9. (ix) To authorise street-collections, civic functions advertisments signs and boardsing, the use of sportfields, the maintenance of recreation facilities, public places and cemetries alternationsto existing buildings and the construction and maintence of public places.
  2. (2) Yes
    1. (a) The electorate, the Municipality and Administrator.
    2. (b) As it is a public representative body constitued in terms of the relevant ordinances they must exceuted their duties in accordance with the provisions of the ordinance and to ensure this, certain powers are conferred upon the Municipality and the Administrator.
  3. (3) I do not have any reason to believe that it is not at the present moment the case.
  4. (4) No.
 Riverlea No 1 Primary School *3. Mr T R GEORGE

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

  1. (1) Whether he intends appointing a certain teacher on the staff of the Riverlea No 1 Primary School to the post of deputy principal at this school; if so , when;
  2. (2) whether there has been a delay in appointing this person to the post in question; if so,
  3. (3) whether he will furnish the reasons for this delay; if not, why not; if so, what are these reasons;
  4. (4) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
 The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (1) No
  2. (2) add (3) Not applicable
  3. (4) No

New Question:

 Eden Park: irregularities *1. Mr W J DIETRICH

asked the Minister of Local Government, Housing and Agriculture:

  1. (1) Whether his Department has at any time conducted an investigation and/or caused and investigation to be conducted into alleged irregularities in Eden Park, Johannesburg, raised by the late member for Alra Park; if not, why not; if so, (a) when, (b) what was the nature of the alleged irregularities and (c) what were the findings;
  2. (2) whether any other action in this regard; if not, why not; if so, what action;
  3. (3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
 The MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, HOUSING AND AGRICULTURE:
  1. (1) As the matter is sub judice, I cannot at this stage provide an answer or make a statement.
    1. (a) Falls away.
    2. (b) Falls away.
    3. (c) Falls away.
  2. (2) Falls away.
  3. (3) Falls away.

For written reply.

General Affairs:

Riverlea/Riverlea Extensions 1 and 2: offences 15. Mr T R GEORGE

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) How many offences relating to (a) murder, (b) culpable homicide, (c) assault with intent to do grievous bodily harm, (d) common assault, (e) rape, (f) burglary and housebreaking with intent to steal and theft, (g) robbery, (h) theft of (i) motor vehicles and (ii) cycles, (i) malicious damage to property, (j) illegal possession of fire-arms and (k) possession of drugs were reported and investigated at police stations serving Riverlea and Riverlea Extentions 1 and 2 areas in Johannesburg in (aa) 1987 and (bb) 1988 as at the latest specified date for which information is available;
  2. (2) (a) how many of these cases in each category (i) have been solved and (ii) remain to be solved and (b) in respect of what date is this information furnished?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

(1) and (2)

Riverlea and Riverlea Extensions 1 and 2 fall within the Langlaagte police station area. Separate records of crimes committed in these areas are not kept, therefore the required information cannot be furnished.

 SAP training college, Bishop Lavis: Ranks of lecturers 33. Mr W J MEYER

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

(a) What are the ranks of the lecturers at the South African Police training college at Bishop Lavis, (b) how many (i) White and (ii) Coloured persons hold each of these ranks and (c) in respect of what date is this information furnished?

 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

(a)

Lance Sergeant in Major

(b)

(i)

Major

1

Captain

1

Lieutenant

1

(ii)

Lieutenant

1

Warrant Officer

8

Sergeant

10

Lance Sergeant

15

(c)

16 May 1988

Own Affairs:

 Old-age homes 33. Mr P J MÜLLER

asked the Minister of Health Services and Welfare:

  1. (1) Whether any new old-age homes are envisaged by his Department for (a) Port Alfred, (b) Grahamstown and (c) Kirkwood; if not, why not; if so, (i) when is it anticipated that building operations will (aa) commence and (bb) be completed, and (ii) what is the total amount allocated for this purpose, in each case;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
 The MINISTER OF HEALTH SERVICES AND WELFARE:
  1. 1. (a) No, (b) No, (c) No, because it is the policy of my Department not to establish Old Age Homes. This is left to the initiative of Welfare Organisations while the Department contributes in the form of subsidies.
    1. (i) (aa) Fall away
      1. (bb) Fall away
    2. (ii) Fall away
  2. 2. No.
 Johannesburg: rehabilitation centre 36. Mr T R GEORGE

asked the Minister of Health Services and Welfare:

  1. (1) Whether his Department intends to establish a rehabilitation centre in the vicinity of Johannesburg; if not, why not; if so, (a) where will it be located, (b) when is it anticipated that building operations will (i) commence and (ii) be completed and (c) (i) what is the estimated total cost of the project and (ii) in respect of what date is this estimate furnished;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
 The MINISTER OF HEALTH SERVICES AND WELFARE:
  1. 1. No, my Department is presently in the process of doing a need assessment investigation as regards the establishment of a Government rehabilitation centre for the northern Provinces.
    1. (a) The location can as yet not be determined.
    2. (b) (i) Fall away
      1. (ii) Fall away
    3. (c) (i) Fall away
      1. (ii) Fall away
  2. 2. No.
 Riverlea/Riverlea Extension 1: organization/persons involved in clinics 40. Mr T R GEORGE

asked the Minister of Health Services and Welfare:

Whether he will furnish information on the organization and persons involved in the administration and operation of the clinics in Riverlea and Riverlea Extension 1; if not, why not; if so, (a) what (i) is the name of the organization, and (ii) are the names of the persons, so involved and (b) what are the positions held be each of these persons?

 The MINISTER OF HEALTH SERVICES AND WELFARE:

No information can be given on the organization and persons involved in the administration and operation of the clinics in Riverlea and Riverlea Extension 1 as these clinics do not fall under the jurisdiction of the Department of Health Services and Welfare.

  1. (a)
    1. (i) Fall away
    2. (ii) Fall away
  2. (b) Fall away
 Riverlea: organization/persons involved in crèche 41. Mr T R GEORGE

asked the Minister of Health Services and Welfare:

Whether he will furnish information on the organization and persons involved in the administration and operation of a certain creche in Riverlea, the name of which has been furnished to the Minister’s Department for the purpose of his reply; if not, why not; if so, (a) what (i) is the name of the organization, and (ii) are the names of the persons, so involved, (b) what are the positions held by each of these persons and (c) what is the name of the creche in question?

 The MINISTER OF HEALTH SERVICES AND WELFARE:
  1. (a)
    1. (i) Riverlea Social Services Institute
    2. (ii) Information as regards private welfare organisations are not made available.
  2. (b) Fall away
  3. (c) Witsco Crèche
 HOUSE OF DELEGATES

†Indicates translated version.

For written reply:

General Affairs:

SAP: policemen/women 21. Mr K CHETTY

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) (a) How many (i) Indian, (ii) Coloured, (iii) Black and (iv) White (aa) policemen and (bb) policewomen were there in the South African Police Force as at the latest specified date for which figures are available;
  2. (2) in respect of each of the above categories, (a) how many persons (i) joined the Police Force and (ii) were promoted, and (b) to what ranks were they promoted, during the latest specified period of 12 months for which figures are available;
  3. (3) whether salary parity has been achieved in all ranks in respect of each of the above categories of persons; if not, (a) why not, (b) when is it anticipated that parity will be achieved and (c) what are the ranks involved?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

(1) and (2)

I refer the honourable member to the Annual Report of the Commissioner of Police which was tabled in Parliament on 9 May 1988.

With regard to promotions I would like to mention that in total 2 553 members of all races were promoted to the different officers and non-commissioned officers ranks during 1987.

  1. (3) Yes
    1. (a) to (c) Fall away