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House of Assembly: Vol7 - WEDNESDAY 1 JUNE 1988

WEDNESDAY, 1 JUNE 1988 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY

†Indicates translated version.

For written reply:

General Affairs:

Black population numbers 159. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:

What was the (a) adult (i) male and (ii) female and (b) child population of each specified Black (aa) local authority area and (bb) township as at the latest specified date for which figures are available?

 The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:

Reply bound in Annexures of House — see M/287-1988.

 Overseas visits 566. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Home Affairs:

  1. (1) Whether he undertook any overseas visits in 1987; if so, (a) which countries were visited and (b) what was the purpose of each visit;
  2. (2) whether he was accompanied by any representatives of the media on these visits; if so, (a) what were the names of the journalists involved, (b) which newspapers or radio or television networks did they represent, (c) to which countries did each of these persons accompany him and (d) why;
  3. (3) whether any costs were incurred by his Department as a result; if so, what total amount in that year?
 The MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS:
  1. (1) No, not in my capacity as Minister of Home Affairs.
    1. (a) and (b) Fall away.
  2. (2) Falls away.
  3. (3) Falls away.
 National Housing Commission: functions/ members 947. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:

  1. (1) As at the latest specified date for which information is available, (a) what were the functions of the National Housing Commission, (b) who were the members serving on it and (c)(i) for what period and (ii) by whom had each of them been appointed;
  2. (2) (a) from what source was the Commission financed, and (b) what funds were available to it, in each of the latest specified five years for which information is available?
 The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) The powers and duties of the National Housing Commission are defined in the Housing Act, 1966 (Act 4 of 1966) as amended.
    2. (b) Mr C H Kotzé (Chairman)
      Mr F H Cronjé (Vice-Chairman)
      Mr K A Finlayson
      Mr D J F Hitge
      Mr L C Koch
      Mr M M van Zyl
      Mr L P van S Moolman
      Mr J H Opperman
      Mr L S Peteni
      Mr A M Shipalana
      Mr A G Magubane
      Mr R P Motemela
      Mr H M Matsie
      Mr L E Moeketsi
    3. (c)
      1. (i) 1 June 1987 to 31 May 1988.
        1. (ii) The Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning.
  2. (2)
    1. (a) The Commission being a statutory policy making body has, as such, no funds at its disposal but considers housing projects in terms of existing norms and standards.
    2. (b) Falls away.
 Black residential areas proclaimed 966. Mr J J WALSH

asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:

  1. (1) Whether any Black residential areas have been proclaimed in the (a) Caledon, (b) Ceres, (c) De Kuilen, (d) Durbanville, (e) False Bay, (f) George, (g) Helderberg, (h) Malmesbury, (i) Mossel Bay, (j) Paarl, (k) Piketberg, (1) Swellendam, (m) Tygervallei, (n) Wellington and (o) Worcester constituencies; if so, (i) what are the names of these areas in each case and (ii) what was the estimated population in each such area as at (aa) the latest specified date for which information is available and (bb) a date five years previously;
  2. (2) whether any residential areas for Blacks are planned in any of these constituencies; if so, what are the details of such plans?
 The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:

This information was furnished by the Cape Provincial Government:

  1. (1) Yes.

(i)

(ii)(aa)

Name of Black township

Population in 1987

(a)

Zwelihle

1 350

(b)

Nduli

1 850

(c)

Mfuleni

3 450

(d)

None

(e)

Guguletu

151 000

Khayelitsha

135 800

Nyanga

93 500

Ou Kruispad

35 000

(f)

Msobomzu

5 280

Tyolorha

8 000

(g)

Lwandle

1 850

(h)

None

(i)

Kwanonqaba

4 064

(j)

Mbekweni

14 000

(k)

None

(1)

Zolani

2 380

(m) Langa

72 500

(n)

None

(o)

Nqubela

1 120

Zeletemba

9 100

(ii) (bb) Population figures for 1982 are not available.
  1. (2) Yes, expansion of Old Crossroads in the False Bay constituency and expansion of Kwanonqaba in the Mossel Bay constituency. Details of proposed development cannot be given at this stage because planning is still being done.
 Transfer of money to foreign country 1035. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Foreign Affairs:

Whether, with reference to information furnished to the Minister’s Department for the purpose of his reply, his Department has at any time rendered assistance to a certain organization in connection with the transfer of money from South Africa to a foreign country; if so, what is the (a) nature of this assistance and (b) name of the (i) organization and (ii) foreign country involved?

 The MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS:

No.

(a) and (b) fall away.

 KwaNdebele: casino 1063. Mr J H VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:†

  1. (1) Whether his Department is or was involved in an investigation into the possible erection of a casino in KwaNdebele; if so,
    1. (a) what is the nature of this involvement,
    2. (b) who carried out the investigation and
    3. (c) what was the cost involved in each item of the investigation;
  2. (2) whether any overseas journeys were undertaken in this connection; if so, what are the relevant particulars;
  3. (3) whether a decision has been taken on the erection of this casino; if not, when can a decision in this connection be expected; if so, what decision?
 The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:
  1. (1) No.

    Rest of question falls away.

 Agriculture: expenditure 1092. Mr A GERBER

asked the Minister of Agriculture:†

What percentage of the total State budget was spent on agriculture since the 1980-81 financial year in each specified financial year for which figures are available?

 The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE:

1980/81

3,80 per cent

1981/82

3,39 per cent

1982/83

3,25 per cent

1983/84

4,36 per cent

1984/85

3,04 per cent

1985/86

2,30 per cent

1986/87

2,71 per cent

Other expenditure in respect of agriculture, eg. from statutory levy funds, is not included in these percentages. Similarly the cost of arrangements such as the lower fuel prices for agriculture and special rail tariffs for certain agricultural products are not included in the above-mentioned percentages.

 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

†Indicates translated version.

For oral reply:

General Affairs:

Questions standing over from Wednesday, 25 May 1988:

Black war veteran: military pension *1. Mr T ABRAHAMS

asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:

  1. (1) Whether his Department or any provincial administration has received any applications for (a) military pension and/or (b) war gratuity from a certain Black war veteran, particulars of whom have been furnished to the Minister’s Department for the purpose of his reply; if so, (i)(aa) by what authority and (bb) on what dates was each such application received, (ii) what are the circumstances surrounding these applications and (iii) what is the name of the applicant;
  2. (2) whether this person has been granted a military pension or a war gratuity; if not, why not; if so, (a) when and (b) what is the amount of the (i) monthly pension being paid to him and/or (ii) gratuity granted;
  3. (3) whether his Department or the provincial administrations keep records of all Black war veterans in receipt of military pensions; if not, why not?
 †The DEPUTY MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:

Neither my Department nor the Provincial Governments administer military pensions for Black persons and therefore no responsibility in respect of military pensions for Black persons was placed on them. If the honourable member refers to war veterans’ pensions, the reply is as follows:

  1. (1) (a) No. No formal application but requests for the allocation of a war veterans’ pension were received. The applicant is resident in Bophuthatswana and does not qualify for any pension benefits in the RS A. The applicant was repeatedly advised to apply in Bophuthatswana. As a matter of fact, the name of a contact person in the Bophuthatswana Department of Internal Affairs in Mmabatho, was given to him.

    According to information, the Department of Internal Affairs of Bophuthatswana indicated on 2 April 1987 that his application was in hand and being attended to.

    1. (b) No.

      Rest of no (1) falls away.

  2. (2) Falls away.
  3. (3) Yes.
 Black war veteran: military pension *2. Mr T ABRAHAMS

asked the Minister of Defence:

  1. (1) Whether the South African Defence Force has received any representations concerning a military pension for a certain Black war veteran, particulars of whom have been furnished to the Defence Force for the purpose of the Minister’s reply; if so, (a) when, (b) from whom, (c) what is the name of this veteran and (d)(i) what was the response to these representations and (ii) what were the reasons for this response;
  2. (2) whether the Defence Force has records of Black soldiers who served in the Force during the Second World War; if not, why not; if so, (a) on what date (i) did this person volunteer for service and (ii) was he discharged, (b) what was the nature of his discharge, (c) what position did he hold at the time of his discharge and (d) what decorations did he receive during his period of service;
  3. (3) what is the policy of the Defence Force in regard to parity in respect of military pensions and war gratuities for members of all race groups?
 †The DEPUTY MINISTER OF DEFENCE:
  1. (1) Yes, not for a military pension but for a war veterans’ pension.
    1. (a) and (b) On 8 July 1985 and 12,13 and 16 December 1985 from the person himself and during September 1986 from the Florida Branch of the South African Legion.
    2. (c) Mr M J Choeu
    3. (d) (i) Each of the above-mentioned representations were referred to the then Department of Constitutional Development and Planning with a request that the case be accorded attention.
      1. (ii) Because that Department was at that stage responsible for war veterans’ pensions for Blacks.
  2. (2) Yes.
    1. (a) (i) 14 January 1941.
      1. (ii) 16 January 1946.
    2. (b) Demobilisation.
    3. (c) Private.
    4. (d) 1939/45 Star; Africa Star; British War Medal; 1939/45 War Medal; Africa Service Medal.
  3. (3) Pensions

    The SA Defence Force is not responsible for military and war veterans’ pensions and therefore has no separate policy in this regard.

    War Gratuities

    There is at present no need for such a policy as the present dispensation of compulsory military service makes war gratuities unnecessary.

 Caledon: traffic accident *3. Mr W J DIETRICH

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether the South African Police Force are conducting an investigation into a traffic accident near Caledon on or about 6 May 1988, particulars of which have been furnished to the Police for the purpose of the Minister’s reply and in which a woman from Port Elizabeth was killed; if so, (a) what progress has been made in this investigation, (b) what were the circumstances surrounding the accident and (c) what was the name of the person concerned;
  2. (2) whether during the 12-month period preceding the above-mentioned accident, the Police investigated any other traffic accidents that occurred on this section of road; if so, what were the (a) particulars of these accidents and (b) findings in each case?
 †The DEPUTY MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) Yes.
    1. (a) It is anticipated that the investigation will be completed shortly.
    2. (b) The circumstances which caused the collision is the subject of a judicial process. The required information is therefore not furnished, because it may anticipate the judicial process.
    3. (c) The name which was furnished by the honourable member.
  2. (2) Yes.
    1. (a) and (b) Only one other collision was reported. A cyclist collided with a motor car. Damage was negligible and nobody was injured. No prosecution was instituted.
 Caledon: traffic accident *4. Mr W J DIETRICH

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

  1. (1) Whether his Department has been advised of a traffic accident near Caledon on or about 6 May 1988, particulars of which have been furnished to the Minister’s Department for the purpose of his reply and in which a woman from Port Elizabeth was killed; if not, why not; if so,
  2. (2) whether any similar accidents occurred on this section of road during the 12-month period preceding the above-mentioned accident; if so, (a) how many and (b) what were the causes in each case;
  3. (3) whether any steps have been or are to be taken to prevent recurrences of such accidents; if not, why not; if so, (a) what steps, (b) when and (c) by whom?
 †The DEPUTY MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:
  1. (1) No. Motorists and authorities are not compelled by law to inform the Department of Transport of traffic collisions.
  2. (2) and (3) Fall away.

Own Affairs:

Question standing over from Wednesday, 18 May 1988:

 Uitenhage: new old-age homes *5. Mr P J MÜLLER

asked the Minister of Health Services and Welfare:?

  1. (1) Whether any new old-age homes are envisaged by his Department for Uitenhage; if not, why not; if so, (a) when is it anticipated that building operations will (i) commence and (ii) be completed and (b) what is the total amount allocated for this purpose;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
 †The MINISTER OF THE BUDGET

(for the Minister of Health Services and Welfare):

  1. (1) No, because it is the policy of my Department not to establish old-age homes. This is left to the initiative of welfare organisations while the Department contributes in the form of subsidies.
    1. (a) (i) Falls away.
      1. (ii) Falls away.
    2. (b) Falls away.
  2. (2) No.

Question standing over from Wednesday, 25 May 1988:

 Overseas visits *1. Mr C R REDCLIFFE

asked the Minister of Health Services and Welfare:

  1. (1) Whether he undertook any overseas visits in 1987; if so, (a) which countries were visited and (b) what was the purpose of each visit;
  2. (2) whether he was accompanied by any officials on these visits; if so, (a) what are the names of the officials involved, (b) which State Departments did they represent, (c) to which countries did each of these persons accompany him and (d) why;
  3. (3) whether any costs were incurred by his Department as a result; if so, what total amount in that year?
 †The MINISTER OF THE BUDGET

(for the Minister of Health Services and Welfare):

  1. (1) Yes, for the period 31 January to 4 February 1987.
    1. (a) USA.
    2. (b) To attend the National Religious Broadcasting 44th Annual Convention and Exposition.
  2. (2) Yes.
    1. (a) Mr J F N Majavie,
    2. (b) Department of Health Services and Welfare,
    3. (c) USA,
    4. (d) As representative of the Department of Health Services and Welfare,
  3. (3) Yes; R5 987,70.
 *2. Mr C R REDCLIFFE

— Education and Culture. [Question standing over.]