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House of Assembly: Vol7 - MONDAY 9 MAY 1988

MONDAY, 9 MAY 1988 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY

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For written reply:

General Affairs:

Police Force of self-governing territory: persons detained/removed from RSA 39. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether any persons were (a) detained in South Africa by persons other than members of the South African security forces and (b) removed by these persons from South African territory since 27 May 1987 ; if so, (i) how many as at the latest specified date for which information is available and (ii) by whom were they detained;
  2. (2) whether permission had been obtained from the South African Police prior to such action being taken; if not, (a) in respect of which cases and (b) what action was taken by the Police as a result;
  3. (3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) and (2) No, but by members of a police force of a self-governing territory.
    However, because the revolutionary onslaught is also aimed at the self-governing territories, I do not consider it to be in the interest of the safety of those territories to divulge information regarding the actions by the police forces of those territories.
  2. (3) Yes. According to the Regulations promulgated in terms of the Public Safety Act, 1953 (Act 3 of 1953) by Proclamation R96 of 11 June 1987, “Security Force” is defined as follows:
    1. (a) the South African Police referred to in the definition of “the Force” in section 1 of the Police Act, 1958 (Act 7 of 1958);
    2. (b) any part of the said South African Police of which the control, organisation and administration have been transferred to the government of a self-governing territory;
    3. (c) any police force established by or under a law of a self-governing territory;
    4. (d) the South African Defence Force referred to in section 5 of the Defence Act, 1957 (Act 44 of 1957); or
    5. (e) the Prisons Service established by section 2 of the Prisons Act, 1959 (Act 8 of 1959), and also any part of any such force or any combination of two or more of such forces or of parts of such forces.
      In the unreported case Mathebe vs The Minister of Law and Order of KwaNdebele in Pretoria on 22 December 1987, the judge ruled that notwithstanding this definition, the KwaNdebele Police do not have jurisdiction or powers of arrest outside the borders of KwaNdebele. This ruling is at present on appeal and will be heard by the Appeal Court, Bloemfontein.
 National servicemen: attempted suicide/suicide 1023. Mr J H VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Defence:!

  1. (1) Whether any cases of (a) attempted suicide and (b) suicide in respect of national servicemen were reported in the past two years; if so, how many in each category in each of these years;
  2. (2) whether these suicides and attempted suicides have any common cause; if so, what is this cause?
 The MINISTER OF DEFENCE:
  1. (1) The honourable member is referred to the replies to written questions number 187 of 1987 and 152 of 1988 in this House.
  2. (2) No.
 Representatives at economic summit conference 1032. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the State President:

Whether, he will furnish information on the persons who attended the economic summit conference held in 1987; if not, why not; if so, (a) how many persons represented (i) the self-governing territories and independent Black states, (ii) the media, (iii) organized trade, industry and agriculture and (iv) employee organizations and (b) what are the names of the bodies which represented (i) organized (aa) trade, (bb) industry and (cc) agriculture and (ii) employee organizations at this conference?

 The STATE PRESIDENT:

I refer the honourable member to my written reply to question 687 of 1988.

Own Affairs:

Reply substituting reply to Question No 119 on Monday, 2 May 1988, put by Mr C J Derby-Lewis (col. 1247):

Non-White children attending White private schools 119. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

(a) How many non-White children are currently attending White private schools in the Transvaal, (b) which schools are involved, (c) how many of these schools receive (i) 45 and (ii) 15 per cent subsidies, (d) what is the latest total subsidy amount for the Province of Transvaal in this regard and (e) in respect of what date is this information furnished?

 The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (a) 5 136,
  2. (b)
    Assumption Convent (Germiston)
    Assumption Convent High School (Maryvale)
    Assumption Convent High School (Pretoria)
    Auckland Park Preparatory School
    Brescia House Ursuline Convent
    Christian Brothers’ College (Boksburg)
    Christian Brothers’ College (Pretoria)
    Christian Brothers’ College (Springs)
    Convent of the Holy Family
    Convent of Our Lady of Mercy Dominican School
    Crossroads Trust School
    Damelin College
    De la Salle Holy Cross College
    Deutsche Schule (Johannesburg)
    Deutsche Schule (Pretoria)
    Domincan Convent Eden College (Johannesburg)
    Eden College (Warmbaths)
    Glenoaks School
    Holy Rosary Convent
    Iona Convent
    Japari School
    Kelly Greenoaks
    King David School (Linksfield)
    King David School (Victory Park)
    Kingsmead College
    La Salle College
    Liberty Christian College
    Loreto Convent (Skinner Street)
    Loreto Convent (Queenswood)
    Marist Brothers’ College
    Max Stibbe School
    Mayfair Convent
    McAuley House School
    Michael Mount Waldorf School
    Modern Methods Business College
    Our Lady of Mercy School
    Pretoria Preparatory School
    Pridwin Preparatory School
    Rand Tutorial College
    Redhill School
    Roedean School (S.A.)
    Sacred Heart College
    Saheti Preparatory School
    Sagewood School
    Selly Park Convent
    St Alban’s School
    St Andrews School
    St Benedict’s College
    St Catherine’s Dominican Convent
    St Catherine’s School (Florida)
    St Columba’s Primary School
    St Conrad’s School
    St David’s Marist Brothers’ College
    St Dominic’s School
    St Dunstan’s Memorial Diocesan School
    St John Bosco College St John’s College
    St John’s Preparatory School
    St Katharine’s Preparatory School
    St Martin’s Sshool
    St Mary’s School for Girls
    St Mary’s Diocesan for Girls (Pretoria)
    St Paul’s Parochial School
    St Paulus Laerskool
    St Peter’s School (Nelspruit)
    St Peter’s Preparatory (Rivonia)
    St Stithian’s College
    St Teresa’s Convent
    St Thomas Aquinas Studywell Tutorial College
    St Ursula’s Convent
    St Ursula’s Primary
    The Ridge School
    Uplands Preparatory School
    Waterkloof House Preparatory School
    Woodmead School,
  3. (c)
    1. (i) 19
    2. (ii) 49,
  4. (d) R13 592 343,00.
  5. (e)
    1. (a) —(c) July 1987
    2. (d) March 1988.
 HOUSE OF DELEGATES

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For written reply:

General Affairs:

Diplomatic missions abroad: persons appointed as ambassadors/diplomatic officials 24. Mr M RAJAB

asked the Minister of Foreign Affairs:

(a) How many (i) Indians, (ii) Coloured, (iii) White and (iv) Black persons had been appointed as (aa) ambassadors and (bb) diplomatic officials in the South African diplomatic missions abroad as at 1 March 1988, (b) in which countries were they serving and (c) what ranks did they hold?

 The MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS:

I will gladly furnish the Honourable Member with the relevant details verbally.