House of Assembly: Vol7 - WEDNESDAY 18 MAY 1988

WEDNESDAY, 18 MAY 1988 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY

†Indicates translated version.

For written reply:

General Affairs:

Government Departments: offices/homes 352. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Public Works and Land Affairs:

What was the cost of renovations and redecorations carried out by his Department on behalf of each specified Government Department in respect of (a) offices and (b) homes in (i) Pretoria and (ii) Cape Town in each of the latest specified five financial years for which figures are available?

The MINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS AND LAND AFFAIRS:

The required information is not available in terms of State Departments, offices, homes or cities and towns. The following expenditure were however incurred in respect of repairs and maintenance of State buildings in the areas of the Regional Offices of the Department of Public Works and Land Affairs in Pretoria and Cape Town.

Financial year

Pretoria

Cape Town

1983/84

R27 033 857

R16 909 902

1984/85

R29 502 863

R13 839 463

1985/86

R33 633 703

R20 374 188

1986/87

R54 024 609

R25 436 993

1987/88

R62 071 500

R26 451 388

Ministerial offices/residences 865. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Public Works and Land Affairs:

What amount was spent by the State on the (a) furnishing and (b) refurbishing of ministerial

  1. (i) offices and (ii) residences in (aa) each specified year from 1983 up to and including 1987 and (bb) 1988 as at the latest specified date for which information is available?
The MINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS AND LAND AFFAIRS:

The required information is not readily available in the Department. The honourable member is referred to the particulars furnished in reply to Question No 352.

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

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For oral reply:

General Affairs:

Pilots: salary structure *1. Mr P C McKENZIE

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

  1. (1) Whether the South African Transport Services were (a) furnished with a copy of, or (b) informed of, a survey on the salary structure of South African Airways pilots conducted by a certain firm of management consultants for the South African Airways Pilots’ Association; if so, (i) what were the findings of this survey and (ii) what is the name of this firm;
  2. (2) whether these findings were (a) investigated and (b) accepted by the Transport Services; if not, why not; if so, when;
  3. (3) whether the Airways rejected a call by the above association for a meeting with the Airways on the compilation of a report on the said survey; if so, why?
†The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:
  1. (1) (a) and (b) Yes.
      1. (i) As negotiations regarding the remuneration of S.A. Airways pilots are still proceeding, information regarding the survey cannot be divulged at this juncture.
      2. (ii) Hay Management Consultants.
  2. (2) (a) Yes.
    1. (b) The report is still being studied.
  3. (3) No.
Aircraft *2. Mr P C McKENZIE

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

  1. (1) (a) How many aircraft of the Boeing 747 Combi type are owned by the South African Airways and (b) in respect of what date is this information furnished;
  2. (2) whether Airways pilots flying such aircraft have made any reports on the (a) adequacy and (b) positioning of the firefighting equipment on these aircraft in relation to meeting an emergency such as the one that presumably occurred on the Helderberg off the coast of Mauritius on 28 November 1987; if so,
  3. (3) whether, as a result of these reports, firefighting equipment on such aircraft has been repositioned; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant particulars?
†The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:
  1. (1) (a) One.
    1. (b) 5 May 1988.
  2. (2) (a) and (b) No, not during the three years prior to the Helderberg incident for which particulars are readily available.
  3. (3) Falls away.
Helderberg air disaster *3. Mr P C McKENZIE

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

  1. (1) Whether, with reference to the Helderberg air disaster near Mauritius on 28 November 1987, any evidence pointing to human error on the part of the pilot of the Helderberg has been found in the (a) wreckage recovered and/or (b) last recorded discussion between the aircraft crew and the control tower at the airport in Mauritius; if so, what evidence;
  2. (2) whether he will lay a transcript of this discussion on the Table of the House; if not, why not; if so, when;
  3. (3) whether the location of the so-called black box has been established; if not, what progress has been made in this regard;
  4. (4) whether he will make a statement on (a) the attempts being made to recover this box and (b) the matter in general?
†The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:
  1. (1) and (2).

    As this matter is sub judice I do not wish to comment at this stage. The findings of the Board of Inquiry will be made known on completion of its activities.

  2. (3) No, the debris field of the Helderberg was located by means of side scan sonar approximately 134 nautical miles north west of Mauritius. This debris field consists of more than 1 200 pieces and it is possible that the recorders could be amongst these pieces.
  3. (4) (a) A contract was awarded for the photo-mapping and recovery of selected items from the debris field and in this regard I wish to refer to my news release of 17 May 1988.
    1. (b) No.
Official car: accident *4. Mr C R REDCLIFFE

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

  1. (1) Whether the official car of a certain Ministerial Representative whose name has been furnished to the Minister’s Department for the purpose of his reply, was involved in an accident in 1987; if so, (a) on what date, (b) who was driving the car at the time, (c) what was the cause of the accident and (d) what is the name of this Ministerial Representative;
  2. (2) whether there were any passengers in the car at the time of the accident; if so, (a) how many and (b) what were their names;
  3. (3) whether any other vehicles were involved in this accident; if so, how many;
  4. (4) whether members of the South African Police were summoned to the scene of the accident; if not, why not;
  5. (5) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
†The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:
  1. (1) Yes.
    1. (a) 26 November 1987.
    2. (b) Mr C Frolick.
    3. (c) The driver of the official car was found guilty on a charge that he drove a vehicle whilst the concentration of alcohol in his blood was more than 0,08 g/100 ml. It can be mentioned for the sake of completeness that the relevant vehicle collided with the rear of a private vehicle which stopped at a red traffic light.
    4. (d) The name furnished by the honourable member, namely Mr F L Erasmus.
  2. (2) Yes.
    1. (a) Four.
    2. (b) Mr H C Grondt, Mr J L Tarentaal, Mr J P February and Mr A Herman.
  3. (3) No.
  4. (4) Yes.
  5. (5) No.
Riverlea: additional land *5. Mr T R GEORGE

asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:

  1. (1) Whether his Department intends identifying additional land adjacent to Riverlea for proclamation for Coloured residential purposes; if not, why not; if so, (a) what land is being considered for this purpose, (b) when is it anticipated that this land will be proclaimed and (c) what is the extent of the land in question;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:

The Group Areas Board has investigated a proposal for the extension of the Riverlea Coloured group area. As a result of a multitude of surface permits and mining rights owned by mining companies, more than 90% of the land in question is affected to such an extent that development is uneconomic or impractical.

The Administration: House of Representatives has, as a result, officially withdrawn its proposal in respect of this land.

Kleinskool *6. Mr P J MÜLLER

asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:

Whether Kleinskool has been or is to be proclaimed as a group area for a specific race group; if not, (a) why not and (b) when is it anticipated that this matter will be finalized; if so, (i) for what race group, (ii) when and (iii) what steps are envisaged in respect of members of other race groups living in this area?

†The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:

The area was advertised and investigated by the Group Areas Board with a view to its possible proclamation as a Coloured Group Area.

  1. (a) Certain information is still awaited.
  2. (b) A decision will be taken as soon as the information has been received.

Own Affairs:

Overseas visits *1. Mr C R REDCLIFFE

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

  1. (1) Whether (a) he and (b) the former Minister of Education and Culture undertook any overseas visits in 1987; if so, (i) which countries were visited and (ii) what was the purpose of each visit;
  2. (2) whether (a) he and (b) the said Minister were accompanied by any officials on these visits; if so, in each case, (i) what are the names of the officials involved, (ii) which State Departments did they represent, (iii) to which countries did each of these persons accompany him and (iv) why;
  3. (3) whether any costs were incurred by his Department as a result; if so, what total amount in that year?
The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (1) (a) and (b) No.
    1. (i) and (ii) Not applicable.
  2. (2) and (3) Not applicable.
Overseas visits *2. Mr C R REDCLIFFE

asked the Minister of the Budget:

  1. (1) Whether he undertook any overseas visits in 1987; if so, (a) which countries were visited and (b) what was the purpose of each visit;
  2. (3) whether any costs were incurred by his Department as a result; if so, what total amount in that year?
  3. (2) whether he was accompanied by any officials on these visits; if so, (a) what are the names of the officials involved, (b) which State Departments did they represent, (c) to which countries did each of these persons accompany him and (d) why;
The MINISTER OF THE BUDGET:
  1. (1) No
    1. (a) and (b) fall away.
  2. (2) Falls away.
  3. (3) Falls away.
Overseas visits *3. Mr C R REDCLIFFE

asked the Minister of Local Government, Housing and Agriculture:

  1. (1) Whether he undertook any overseas visits in 1987; if so, (a) which countries were visited and (b) what was the purpose of each visit;
  2. (2) whether he was accompanied by any officials on these visits; if so, (a) what are the names of the officials involved, (b) which State Department did they represent, (c) to which countries did each of these persons accompany him and (d) why;
  3. (3) whether any costs were incurred by his Department as a result; if so, what total amount in that year?
The MINISTER OF THE BUDGET

(for the Minister of Local Government, Housing and Agriculture):

  1. (1) Yes
    1. (a) West Germany and Singapore
    2. (b) West Germany: Investigation and evaluation of co-operative system of farming

      Singapore: Attendance of the 15th World Housing Congress

  2. (2) Yes
    1. (a) West Germany: Messrs P D McE nery, C O du Preez, J J C Boshoff and J H Loots
    2. (b) Administration: House of Representatives
    3. (c) West Germany: Officials mentioned in paragraph 2(a)

      Singapore: Private Secretary — Mr I Adams

    4. (d) Investigation into and evaluation of co-operative farming in West Germany.

      Execution of Private Secretarial functions in Singapore.

  3. (3) Yes

    R122 961,42

Uitenhage area: housing projects *4. Mr P J MÜLLER

asked the Minister of Local Government, Housing and Agriculture:†

  1. (1) Whether any additional housing projects are envisaged by his Department for the Uitenhage area; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant particulars;
  2. (2) whether any negotiations have taken place in this regard; if not, why not; if so, (a) what negotiations and (b) with whom;
  3. (3) whether any decisions have been taken on the matter; if not, why not; if so, what decisions;
  4. (4) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
The MINISTER OF THE BUDGET

(for the Minister of Local Government, Housing and Agriculture):

  1. (1) No.

    The Department does not own land in the area but the local authority plans an extensive housing programme.

  2. (2) Falls away.
  3. (3) Falls away.
  4. (4) No.
*5. Mr P J MÜLLER

— Health Services and Welfare. [Reply standing over.]

HOUSE OF DELEGATES

†Indicates translated version.

For written reply:

General Affairs:

Unemployed Indians 53. Mr K CHETTY

asked the Minister of Manpower:

  1. (1) (a) What is the latest estimate of the number of unemployed Indians in the Republic, (b) in respect of what date is this figure furnished and (c) on what basis was this estimate made;
  2. (2) (a) (i) how many of these unemployed persons are regarded as persons who have never been economically active on a regular footing and (ii) what criteria are used in determining this figure and (b) how many of them lost their employment in each of the latest specified three years for which information is available;
  3. (3) (a) how many of the unemployed persons who lost their employment in the above-mentioned three years were covered by the Unemployment Insurance Fund and (b) what amount was paid out in this connection in each of these three years;
  4. (4) (a) what was the amount received by the above-mentioned fund in each of the three years concerned by way of contributions by (i) members/employers and (ii) the State and (b) what was the level of the assets in the fund at the end of each such year?
The MINISTER OF MANPOWER:
  1. (1) (a) and (b)

1985

1986

1987

1988

January

5 501

12 743

12 368

8 801

February

7 353

13 246

12 116

March

8 584

11 887

11 701

April

9 157

12 485

11 471

May

9 537

13 309

11 448

June

10 901

14 058

11 402

July

11 605

14 762

11 049

August

12 139

15 004

10 355

September

12 449

15 200

9 773

October

13 498

14 809

9 512

November

13 861

13 798

9 327

December

14 208

12 539

9 937

    1. (c) The figures represent the actual registrations of workseekers with the Department of Manpower or its agents.
  1. (2) (a) (i), (ii) and (b)

    These particulars are not kept.

  2. (3) (a) The Unemployment Insurance Fund does not differentiate between the various population groups and consequently separate figures in respect of individual groups are not kept.
    1. (b) The figures for all population groups are:

1985

1986

1987

R325 133 883

R386 467 103

R388 274 527

(4) (a) (i)

1985

1986

1987

R189 098 864

R392 173 971

R622 686 728

(a) (ii)

1985

1986

1987

R7 000 000

R7 000 000

R7 000 000

(b)

1985

1986

1987

R157 046 843

R171 352 894

R309 650 152

Own Affairs:

Social pensions 95. Mr M RAJAB

asked the Minister of Health Services and Welfare:

(a) How many persons in each specified category are in receipt of social pensions from his Department and (b) in respect of what date is this information furnished?

The MINISTER OF HEALTH SERVICES AND WELFARE:
  1. (a) Old Age: 27 184

    Blind: 318

    War Veterans: 243

    Disability: 20 342

  2. (b) 30 April 1988
Occupational rehabilitation centres 96. Mr M RAJAB

asked the Minister of Health Services and Welfare:

Whether his Department has established any occupational rehabilitation centres since September 1984; if so, (a) where and (b) when; if not, (i) why not and (ii) what steps have been or are to be taken to establish such centres.

The MINISTER OF HEALTH SERVICES AND WELFARE:

No

  1. (a) and (b) Not applicable
    1. (i) No funds were available.
    2. (ii) The first centre will be commenced with during 1988/89.
Approved posts: vacancies 97. Mr M RAJAB

asked the Minister of Health Services and Welfare:

  1. (1) How many approved posts for (a) dentists, (b) physiotherapists, (c) speech therapists and (d) environmental hygienists are there in his Department;
  2. (2) whether any of these posts are vacant; if so, (a) how many in each category and (b) in respect of what date is this information furnished;
  3. (3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
The MINISTER OF HEALTH SERVICES AND WELFARE:
  1. (1) (a) 21
    1. (b) 1
    2. (c) 3
    3. (d) None
  2. (2) Yes
    1. (a) 4 dentists posts.
    2. (b) 30 April 1988.
  3. (3) No.