House of Assembly: Vol7 - TUESDAY 26 APRIL 1988
†Indicates translated version.
For oral reply:
General Affairs:
State President:
asked the State President:
- (1) Whether he recently addressed letters regarding the budget to prominent South African businessmen; if so, (a) when, (b) what was the (i) purport and (ii) purpose of these letters and (c) to whom were they addressed;
- (2) whether he has received any replies to these letters; if so, (a) from whom, (b) when and (c) what was the nature of the response in each case;
- (3) whether he will furnish copies of these replies to members of Parliament; if not, why not;
- (4) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
(1),(2),(3) and (4).
I refer the hon member to my address in the House of Assembly on Thursday, 21 April
1988.
asked the State President:
Whether he, in his capacity as Supreme Chief of all Blacks in the Republic, as defined in section 1 of the Black Administration Act, No 38 of 1927, will meet a delegation from the residents of Moutse to discuss their possible incorporation into KwaNdebele; if not, why not; if so, when?
I personally looked at the area in 1983 with the late Dr Phatudi. I suggested that the late Dr Phatudi and the late Mr Skosana should come to an agreement, which I would accept. They were unable to come to an agreement and I suggested that they meet under the chairmanship of an independent person. Dr Piet Rautenbach was appointed for this purpose. They could still not reach an agreement.
After that, in 1985, I met a delegation of the late Dr Phatudi, his cabinet and a number of persons from Moutse. I explained the Government’s viewpoint to them and emphasized that it was important that an agreement be reached. The Government specifically envisaged improved administration and planning.
When it became evident that an agreement would not be reached, the Government took steps to incorporate Moutse with KwaNdebele. The Government of Lebowa then decided to take the Republic to court. In view of the above-mentioned facts, I do not think that it would serve any purpose now to receive another delegation.
Ministers:
Questions standing over from Tuesday, 19 April 1988:
asked the Minister of Defence:
Whether he intends taking action or causing action to be taken against publications containing articles encouraging (a) wives of national servicemen to influence their husbands, and (b) young men, to resist doing national service ; if so, what action; if not, why not?
(a) and (b) Yes, if there appear to be a contravention in terms of existing legislation, suitable steps could be taken.
asked the Minister of Defence:
Whether an estimate has been made of the cost to the South African Defence Force of the administration, salaries, commissariat and other specified services required to maintain the system of national service as instituted by sections 22 and 44 of the Defence Act, No 44 of 1957; if not, why not; if so, (a) what is the estimated total amount involved and (b) in respect of what financial year was it made?
Yes.
- (a) R705 million per annum for salaries, training, accommodation, ammunition, internal charges, clothing, rations, transport, medical and administration.
- (b) 1987/88.
New Questions:
asked the Minister of National Education:
- (1) Whether he is giving consideration to the introduction of legislation which will enable the State to reclaim amounts paid in terms of university subsidies from graduates who leave the country immediately or soon after their graduation; if so, when is it anticipated that such legislation will be introduced; if not, why not;
- (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
- (1) No. The extent and nature of this problem does not warrant the introduction of such legislation. The country has benefited considerably over the past few years and still benefits by the immigration of trained manpower which did not cost the taxpayer anything. The introduction of measures related to the subsidising of universities, in order to inhibit emigration, will in all probability evoke a very sharp reaction from other countries to the disadvantage of South Africa.
- (2) No.
— Defence.
[Withdrawn.]
asked the Minister of Law and Order:
(a) What are the international standards regarding the manning of police stations in (i) urban and (ii) rural areas and (b) how do our police stations compare in this regard?
(a) and (b)
As far as could be ascertained from available research, international standards regarding the manning of police stations in urban and rural areas do not exist. Therefore a comparison cannot be made with police stations in South Africa.
asked the Minister of Law and Order:†
- (1) Whether any members of the South African Police were present in a courtroom of the Wynberg magistrate’s court on 15 March 1988 at the time of the appearance of a number of detainees in terms of section 29 of the Internal Security Act, No 74 of 1982; if so, (a) why and (b) how many;
- (2) whether any of these members were dressed in plain clothes; if so, why;
- (3) whether any of the members in plain clothes took their seats in that part of the court which is usually made available to members of the public; if so, (a) why and (b) how many?
(1) to (3).
In this question the hon member for Claremont refers to certain court proceedings at the Wynberg magistrate’s court on 15 March 1988. It is astonishing that he abuses this forum, Parliament in view of the fact that he himself attended these proceedings. During these court proceedings 11 alleged terrorists appeared on serious charges as a result of large-scale acts of terror, including various explosions, which occurred in the Western Cape.
It is the statutory responsibility of the South African Police and also an internationally accepted practice that the police of a country must at all times ensure the safety of court officials, members of the public and the accused in a court. All the more when persons are tried on charges of serious crime and people flock together at that court, as in this instance.
During such police actions use is made of the services of the Uniform Branch, Security Branch and Criminal Investigation Branch. Members of the Uniform Branch perform duty in uniform, while members of the Security Branch and Criminal Investigation Branch perform duty in plain clothes. Surely the hon member is aware of these facts.
The presence of the South African Police at these court proceedings was in accordance with their statutory responsibility and requires no further explanation.
asked the Minister of Justice:
Whether, with reference to the appearance in the Wynberg magistrate’s court of a number of detainees in terms of section 29 of the Internal Security Act, No 74 of 1982, on 15 March 1988, there was a shortage of seating in the courtroom concerned; if so, (a) to what factors is this shortage ascribed and (b) how many (i) relatives of the detainees and (ii) members of the public are estimated to have obtained seats?
I refer the hon member to my letter dated 25 March 1988 in which I informed him about the matter.
[Remainder of reply laid upon the Table with leave of House.]
26-08-1988
Mnr J Van Eek, LP
Volksraad
Posbus 15
KAAPSTAD
8007
Geagte meneer Van Eek
VERHOOR TE WYNBERG OP 15 MAART 1988
Dankie vir u brief van 15 Maart 1988.
Die Landdros van Wynberg is gevra om op die aangeleentheid in te gaan. Volgens ’n telefoniese verslag van hom ontvang, blyk dit dat die Hooggeregshof kort vantevore in Wynberg gesit het. Wanneer dit gebeur, verskuif die Streekhof en word die hofnommers verander. Ongelukkig het daar in die proses dieselfde nommers op twee van die howe se deure verskyn. Sommige lede van die publiek wat die verrigtinge in die saak van die 11 beskuldigdes wou volg, het blykbaar as gevolg hiervan aanvanklik in die verkeerde hof beland. Die probleem is betyds agtergekom en die publiek wat in die verkeerde hof was, is toe ingelig oor waar die saak sou aankom.
In daardie stadium was die korrekte hof al amper vol en was daar nie meer veel sitplek beskikbaar nie. Na verneem word was van die aanwesiges wel polisiebeamptes waarvan sommiges n belang by die saak gehad en ander teenwoordig was om toe te sien dat die verrigtinge ordelik verloop. Die hofbeamptes het uit hulle pad gegaan om plek te laat maak vir ten minste ’n aantal van die familielede van elke beskuldigde.
U was op die toneel en sal daarom eerstehandse kennis hê van die gedrag van die skare en die beskuldigdes in en om die hofsaal. Volgens koerantberigte het dit erg toegegaan. Die polisie het die taak om te sorg dat die howe in veiligheid kan funksioneer en dat die verloop van die hofproses nie fisies ontwrig word nie. Dit val tot ’n groot mate ook op hulle weg om uiteindelik toe te sien dat hofbevele uitgevoer word. Hulle rol in die instandhouding van ons howe en dus aan ’n beskaafde beregtingsisteem word gereeld oor die hoof gesien. Dit is hulle wat sterf as die malmensbomme om ons howe ontplof.
Ek is nie bereid om die gemene motiewe wat u aan die aanwesige polisiebeamptes in u brief toedig te onderskryf nie.
Die uwe
H J COETSEE, LP
MINISTER VAN JUSTISIE
asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:†
Whether his Department is involved in the construction of a new road between Umdloti and Richards Bay; if so, (a) what works in respect of this road have been completed, (b) in what phases is it envisaged to build the road and (c) what is the estimated total cost of the road?
Yes.
- (a) The first carriageway of the envisaged dual carriageway road between Ballitoville and New Guelderland.
- (b) As 12 separate contracts commencing in the 1988/89 financial year to complete a dual carriageway road between Umdloti and New Guelderland and a new single carriageway road between New Guelderland and Mariedal on the existing road a short distance north-west of Richards Bay.
- (c) The total estimated further cost of the road is R376 561 000.
asked the Minister of Law and Order:†
Whether it is the intention to erect a new police station complex at Richards Bay; if so, (a) what buildings will the planned complex comprise, (b) what is the estimated total cost of these buildings and (c) when are building operations expected (i) to commence and (ii) to be completed?
Yes.
(a) to (c) It is envisaged that the construction of a new police complex, comprising a district head office, police station, mortuary and single quarters at an estimated cost of R68,5 million, will, according to expectation, commence early in 1994. The preliminary construction period is 42 months. However, I wish to point out to the hon member that the expected date of commencement of the project may be changed as a result of various factors, inter alia the availability of funds.
asked the Minister of Law and Order:
Whether he or any person representing him has issued any instructions to the effect that no further action be taken against squatters; if so, (a) when, (b) to what areas do these instructions apply and (c) on whose authority was this decision taken?
(a) to (c)
As the result of a notice of motion by the Vlakfontein Residents Committee in the Supreme Court, on 22 October 1987 an undertaking was given that the South African Police would take no further action against the Vlakfontein Squatters, pending the outcome of the notice of motion. On 4 December 1987 this undertaking was extended to also include the areas of Vereeniging, Grasmere and Finetown. The notice of motion is still pending.
Mr Chairman …
[Inaudible.]
… arising out of the hon the Minister’s reply, will he tell us whether he is considering amending the Prevention of Illegal Squatting Act in such a way that squatters will not be able to continue living where they are living illegally?
Mr Chairman, the hon member is supposed to be a lawyer.
But you are supposed to answer the question!
Order! This is the second time within a short while that the hon member for Overvaal has made a loud remark of that kind across the floor of the House. It will not be permitted. The hon the Minister may continue.
Mr Chairman, the hon member for Losberg is supposed to be a lawyer. So he should know that that Act does not fall under me. It is the responsibility of the hon the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning, and I think he must put his question to that hon Minister.
†Mr J H VAN DER MERWE: Mr Chairman, on a point of order: Hon Ministers are not supposed to be sarcastic about questions put by Opposition members. [Interjections.] That is exactly how the hon the Minister of Law and Order has just acted. He told the hon member for Losberg that he as a lawyer ought to know better.
Order! That is not a point of order. There is also no such written rule, or even a convention of which I am aware. The fact of the matter is that the attitude of one hon member towards another is determined by the behaviour of the hon members in question.
Mr Chairman, further arising out of the hon the Minister’s reply, is the notice of motion of the residents of Vlakfontein also applicable to those in the Vereeniging area? If not, why was this undertaking extended to Vereeniging?
Mr Chairman, as I said, on 4 December it was also extended to squatters in other circumstances in other areas, and that notice of motion must have been applicable. That is why it was extended.
asked the Minister of Education and Development Aid:
- (1) With reference to the report of the Advocate-General in terms of section 5(1) of the Advocate-General Act, No 118 of 1979, on the purchase of the Ivis interactive video system by his Department, which was tabled in the House of Assembly on 29 March 1988, who on behalf of his Department wrote the (a) detailed reply to the Central Mechanization Committee mentioned in paragraph 6.12 and (b) letter dated 26 March 1986 to the Commission for Administration mentioned in paragraph 6.17 of the said report;
- (2) whether, in the light of the findings made by the Advocate-General in his report in paragraphs 6.18 to 6.24 in general and paragraph 6.23 in particular, he has requested explanations in regard to the writing of the above-mentioned two letters; if not, why not; if so, what explanations were offered in each case;
- (3) whether he intends taking further action pursuant to these explanations; if not, why not; if so, (a) what action and (b) when?
- (1) (a) and (b) The departmental letters referred to were handled in the normal way, namely that the draft letters were written by the Deputy Director: Computer Assisted Education (Mr T P Metrowich) and checked and controlled by the Chief Director: Education Development Services (Dr H A Moeke), and then submitted to the Deputy Director-General (Dr D H Meiring) for approval and signature. Where necessary, the above-mentioned three persons together edited and revised the draft letters.
- (2) Yes.
The Director-General and the Deputy Director-General supplied explanations in a personal interview immediately after the release of the Advocate-General’s report, as well as in the form of documentation and written input which was submitted to the Advocate-General.
The Advocate-General found (para 6.18) that "die sertifikaat van die Departement is heel waarskynlik korrek met betrekking tot die tydstip waarop die sertifikaat gegee is”. Although the Advocate-General found further that there possibly was one other firm in command of the technological expertise and skills to develop a similar interactive video system, the situation in fact was that at that juncture no other firm actually had suitable courseware available. Without courseware, any system is useless. Even at this stage such courseware is not yet available from any other firm. - (3) No.
asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:†
- (1) Whether the Hippokrates and Francie van Zijl hostels of the University of Stellenbosch are situated in a White group area; if so,
- (2) whether his Department has been notified that non-White students are accommodated in these hostels at present; if so, (a) when and (b) by whom;
- (3) whether he intends (a) taking action against such students, and (b) having legal proceedings instituted against them, in terms of the provisions of the Group Areas Act; if so, (i) when and (ii) what procedure is being followed in this connection; if not, why not;
- (4) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
This information was furnished by the Cape Provincial Govenment:
- (1) Yes.
- (2) No. At the request of the University of Stellenbosch the Cape Provincial Government issued a group areas permit allowing 10 males and 10 females (other race groups) to occupy the Hippokrates and Francie van Zijl hostels.
- (3) No. Legal action cannot be taken against the students because they are occupying the hostels under authority of a group areas permit.
- (4) No.
asked the Minister of Justice:†
- (1) Whether the Attorney-General has received any dockets in connection with non-White students who are accommodated in the Hippokrates and Francie van Zijl hostels of the University of Stellenbosch; if so, (a) how many and (b) over what period;
- (2) whether the Attorney-General has decided to institute legal proceedings in this connection; if so, when; if not, why not?
(1) and (2) The hon member is referred to the reply of the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning to Question No 10 according to which it appears that permits were issued to certain students in terms of the Group Areas Act, if these are the students whom the hon member has in mind.
asked the Minister of Home Affairs:
- (1) Whether his Department recently received applications for visas to visit South Africa from a delegation from a certain association, the name of which has been furnished to the Minister’s Department for the purpose of his reply; if so, (a) on what date and (b) what is the name of the association;
- (2) whether these applications were granted; if not, (a) why not and (b) who took the decision in this regard;
- (3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
(1) - (3) Applications for visas from a delegation , consisting of 7 members and organised by an American association known as “American Association for the Advancement of Science”,, were received in the Department between 1988-02-19 and 1988-03-25.
The delegation indicated that the main purpose of their proposed visit was “to discuss with South African medical pratitioners and others how general and emergency legislation has affected the provision of medical and psychiatric services to the general population, including persons in detention. Other issues which we plan to examine are medical education and career development, and the delivery of health services under the Government health department.”
Decisions in respect of applications for visas are taken only after all the relevant facts and considerations have been taken into account. In this regard various interested parties, amongst others the Department of National Health and Population Development, were consulted. Following on the submissions received, it is evident that the RSA has nothing to gain from a visit of the delegation at this stage.
After careful consideration of all the relevant facts, information and submissions I decided not to approve the applications.
asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:
Whether, in view of the decision taken by the Appeal Court on the validity of the State President’s proclamation of 31 December 1985, he intends taking any further action regarding the incorporation of Moutse into KwaNdebele; if not, why not; if so, (a) what action and (b) when?
Yes.
- (a) The introduction of legislation.
- (b) During the current session of Parliament.
asked the Minister of Information, Broadcasting Services and the Film Industry:
Whether the Bureau for Information was in any way involved in the advertisement “The Budget Protects …” which was published on 29 March 1988; if so, (a) who drafted the text of this advertisement, (b) what was the total cost to the Bureau in this regard, (c) in which publications did the advertisement appear and (d) what was the purpose of placing it?
Yes.
- (a) Officials and consultants in association with the Ministry of Finance.
- (b) There was no direct cost involved in the drafting of the text.
- (c) Newspapers
Argus
Beeld
Die Burger
Business Day
Citizen
Daily News
EP Herald
Daily Dispatch
Oosterlig
Pretoria News
Star
Volksblad
Sowetan
Rapport
Sunday Tribune
City Press
Ilanga
Imvo Zabantsundu
Magazines
Finance Week
Financial Mail
Finansies en Tegniek
African Business. - (d) To explain in simple terms the benefit of the 1988/89 budget to the people and economy of South Africa within the framework of the Government’s new economic policy.
Mr Chairman, arising out of the hon the Minister’s reply, is the hon the Minister not considering at the same time publishing in those reports, at Government expense, the points of view of the opposition parties in Parliament together with the Government’s point of view?
Mr Chairman, I do not think that the question really requires a reply. It is obvious. We want to inform the public what is going to happen in practice. We are not engaged in expounding myths. [Interjections.]
Mr Chairman, further arising out of the hon the Minister’s reply, does the hon the Minister not think that it would be reasonable to offer opposition parties the opportunity to warn the public against the Government’s actions which, as we have seen in the past, have resulted in chaos, so that the public can be aware of what is coming?
Mr Chairman, I do not think I need give the hon member a reply to that question.
Mr Chairman, further arising out of the hon the Minister’s reply, paragraph (d) of the hon the Minister’s reply deals with the purpose of these advertisements. Can research be done on the extent to which these advertisements succeeded, and, if so, in what manner, and will the results be made known?
Research is done; in fact, it is in progress. It is done, firstly, by establishing what the estimated number of readers is of the specified publications; secondly, research is then done to determine how many people actually saw and read the advertisement; and, thirdly, how much of it they remember, in other words, how much effect it had on them. This is the type of research we do and with which we are busy at present. We could probably make the results known in due course.
asked the Minister of Law and Order:
Whether, arising out of the judgment given in the High Court of Botswana in the case of The State versus Steve Henry Burnett, the South African Police investigated or are investigating any case against a certain person, whose name has been furnished to the Police for the purpose of the Minister’s reply; if so, (a) with what result and (b) what is the name of this person; if not, why not?
The South African Police are investigating the matter. This investigation has not yet been completed.
asked the Minister of National Health and Population Development:
(a) How many separate cash payments have been made to individual victims of the 1987 and 1988 floods, (b) what total amount has been paid out in this manner and (c) in respect of what date is this information furnished?
- (a) 73 685
- (b) R30 261 654,47
- (c) 31 March 1988
asked the Minister of Home Affairs:
- (1) Whether any documents relevant to the entry into South Africa of a certain person, whose name has been furnished to the Minister’s Department for the purpose of his reply, are missing from the records of his Department; if so, (a) what documents, (b) what are the circumstances surrounding this matter and (c) what is the name of the person concerned;
- (2) whether any steps have been taken to (a) recover these documents and (b) have any persons prosecuted in this connection; if not, why not; if so, (i) what steps and (ii) with what results in each case?
(1) and (2) The hon member is referred to my reply in this House to oral question No 25 of 1 March 1988. A police docket with regard to the matter is presently with the Attorney-General, Cape Town, for his decision. In view thereof, I do not consider it expedient to give full details of the nature as requested by the hon member.
asked the Minister of Defence:
Whether any persons were killed in the recent raid by the South African Defence Force on properties and persons in Gaborone in Botswana; if so, (a) (i) how many and (ii) what were their (aa) names, (bb) nationalities, (cc) ages and (dd) occupations and (b) what are the addresses of the properties in question?
Yes. As a result of the general practice among terrorists to use aliases and the circumstances that exist on the ground during such operations, it is almost impossible to positively identify all the bodies in all cases. In addition, the names and particulars of the dead thus given, can be abused by the enemy for its own purposes. Consequently I do not intend to divulge the names of fatalities in the future. With this as background, the reply in this case, is as follows:
(a) (i) 4 |
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(ii)(aa) |
(bb) |
(cc) |
(dd) |
Solomon Molefe also known as Charles Makoena, Patrie Mvudla, Boy Aubrey Moloi, Sandile, Mbele, Sipho Siphete and Molotshe, plus two other male persons whose identities cannot be confirmed for certain. |
South African |
41 years |
Member of Umkhonto we Sizwe and regional military commander in Botswana. |
Masego Ikgopoleng also known as Ketshabile. |
Babotswana |
Unknown |
Female employee at Botswana Book Centre. Also known as communicating agent between senior members of Umkhonto we Sizwe in Gaborone. |
(b) House 11464, Broadhurst, Gaborone. |
asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:
- (1) Whether, with reference to his reply to Question No 228 on 25 March 1988, a decision has as yet been taken on the designation of an area, approximately 218 hectares in extent, south of Lansdowne Road in the vicinity of Nyanga/Crossroads, as a development area; if not, (a) why not and (b) when is it anticipated that a decision will be taken on the matter;
- (2) whether he will furnish information on this planned development; if not, why not; if so, what are the details thereof?
- (1) No.
- (a) The application is still under consideration.
- (b) As soon as possible.
- (2) No, not at this stage.
The matter is still under consideration.
Mr Chairman, arising out of the reply of the hon the Minister, may I ask him whether it is correct that the MEC involved with this matter said some months ago that the squatters would not spend another Cape winter in their existing places?
Mr Chairman, I suggest the hon member submit his question in writing to the MEC to whom he has referred.
asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:
- (1) Whether, with reference to his reply to Question No 224 on 16 March 1988, the request to the National Housing Commission for an amount of R3,5 million for the 1988/89 financial year for the building of 500 houses by means of a self-help programme has been granted; if so, when will the implementation of the programme be commenced; if not, when is it anticipated that a reply will be received to the above request;
- (2) (a) how many individual loans have been granted under the self-help scheme instituted in the 1987/88 financial year and (b) who is responsible for approving these loans?
This information was furnished by the Cape Provincial Government:
- (1) No. Because of the many claims on available funds only R700 000 was granted for the self-help programme in Khayelitsha.
- (2)
- (a) None.
- (b) Cape Town Town Committee.
asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:
- (1) With reference to his reply to Question No 22 on 15 March 1988, what additionl areas in the Cape Peninsula are planned for those Blacks who cannot be accommodated in existing squatter areas;
- (2) whether all interested parties were consulted before decisions regarding the planning of these areas were taken; if not, why not; if so, in what manner;
- (3) whether details of the plans referred to in the above reply will be released in the near future; if not, why not, if so, when?
This information was furnished by the Cape Provincial Government:
- (1) Khayelitsha is continuously subject to planning and development in order to address the housing needs — including those of squatter families — in the Cape Peninsula. An area at Philippi is also being investigated, specifically to meet the needs of neighbouring areas.
- (2) Interested parties have been consulted, where possible. Also refer to the reply in 3.
- (3) The plans for those areas that have already been developed in Khayelitsha are available, while plans for Village 1, Town 2 have been advertised for objections and representations. Notification of the subsequent phases will be made known in the press for objections and representations as soon as the area has been declared and the plans have been approved by the Cape Provincial Government. (Dates cannot be given at this stage.)
asked the Minister of Defence:†
- (1) Whether a certain officer in the South African Defence Force, whose name has been furnished to the Defence Force for the purpose of the Minister’s reply, addressed a gathering in Piketberg recently; if so, (a) what is the (i) name and (ii) rank of this officer and (b) what was the nature of the gathering;
- (2) whether members of the Defence Force may address gatherings of this nature; if so, in terms of what rule or regulation;
- (3) whether steps are being considered against the officer concerned; if so, what steps;
- (4) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
- (1) Yes
- (a) (i) and (ii) The name and rank supplied by the hon member.
- (b) An open youth gathering which all members of the public could attend.
- (2) Yes. Requests for talks at youth gatherings by members of the Defence Force are considered on merit.
- (3) and (4) No.
Mr Chairman, arising out of the reply of the hon the Minister, I wish to say that the gathering concerned was an NP function where …
Order! No, the hon member may not make a speech now.
Mr Chairman, I must give the background before I can ask my question.
Order! No, the hon member may not even do that. However, the hon member may put a question.
Mr Chairman, I do not wish to make a speech.
Order! I regard it as such.
May I then rephrase my question?
The hon member may continue.
Mr Chairman, in the light of the fact that it was a NP function, at which Mr Barend du Plessis and Dr Dawie de Villiers spoke, I wish to ask whether it is permissible for the CP to invite Defence Force officers to address political meetings of the CP.
Mr Chairman, I furnished the reply to the question put to me in subparagraph 2(a) in which I confirmed that requests for talks at youth rallies by members of the SA Defence Force are considered on merit. Thus, if there are certain organizations which are of the opinion that young people in particular cases need to be motivated, there is no reason why the security forces should not be more than willing to motivate young people like themselves.
Mr Chairman, further arising out of the reply of the hon the Minister, I wish to ask whether this means that we may now, purely for party-political ends, invite officers of the Defence Force, as happened in this case, to address party-political functions, where young people are present — as in this case. [Interjections.]
The reply to the question is no. The Defence Force is there for the purpose of supplying motivation and explaining the onslaught against South Africa and imparting experiences gained in the present onslaught against South Africa. The matter will be considered on merit. I want to state specifically that it does not only concern the question of supplying motivation, but also what organization makes the request. If the ANC or other enemies of South Africa were to request this, I would say no. If those hon members, who are a political organization, wish to motivate the youth, they do in fact have the opportunity to do so.
Mr Chairman, further arising out of the reply of the hon the Minister, can we then accept that in an absolutely parallel case involving the CP — as has been replied here in respect of the NP — it is permissible for officers of the Defence Force to address such gatherings?
As long as they do not talk politics.
That is quite right. If it is an open function which the public may attend under the auspices of the CP, and it is about motivation and not about political aspects, they are more than willing to do that.
Now you have put your foot in it!
You are putting your foot and your mouth in it.
You are too stupid to put your foot in it. [Interjections.]
Mr Chairman, on a pont of order: Is it permissible for the hon member for Overvaal to say to an hon Minister across the floor of the House: “You are too stupid to put your foot in it”?
Order! The hon member may not say that. He must withdraw it.
Mr Chirman, I withdraw that and say that he is too stupid to do that.
Order! The hon member for Overvaal is a very experienced member of the House and knows that he must withdraw it unconditionally.
Mr Chairman, I withdraw it unconditionally. [Interjections.]
asked the Minister of Finance:
- (1) Whether the budgets of those regional services councils already instituted have as yet been submitted; if not, why not; if so, when were they submitted;
- (2) whether those budgets submitted have been approved; if not, why not; if so, when?
- (1) No; the budgets of all the regional services councils have as yet not been submitted, because, on the one hand, some regional services councils have only come into operation quite recently and, on the other hand, investigations into possible functions and projects have not been completed. Futhermore, in most cases a newly established regional services council can only forecast its expected income with reasonable accuracy after the first few months’ income has been collected.
- (2) Yes, some of the budgets, namely Bloemarea, East Rand and Pretoria have been approved on 22 April 1988. The approval of the budgets were delayed, since certain legal aspects had to be clarified. The outstanding issues have now been resolved and the approval of budgets can now be completed expeditiously.
asked the Minister of Defence:
- (1) Whether, with reference to his reply to Question No 23 on 22 March 1988, the investigation into the accident involving a Buffel in or near East London on or about 8 March 1988 has been completed; if not, why not; if so, what were the findings;
- (2) whether any action has been or is to be taken as a result of these findings; if not, why not; if so, what action;
- (3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
- (1) and (2) Yes. A board of inquiry is an internal departmental procedure of which the findings cannot be made public. The normal judicial inquest by the civilian authorities still has to be concluded.
- (3) No.
asked the Minister of Economic Affairs and Technology:
Whether the importation of television set decoders for M-Net is subject to any (a) restriction, (b) import permit requirements and (c) import duties or other taxes; if so, (i) what restrictions, permits, duties or taxes are applicable in this regard, (ii) to which persons or organizations have import permits been issued and (iii) for how many decoders have such permits been issued?
- (a) No.
- (b) No.
- (c) Yes.
- (i) Customs duty of 20 per cent and surcharge of 10 per cent.
- (ii) Falls away.
- (iii) Falls away.
Mr Chairman, arising out of the hon the Minister’s reply, may I ask him whether he is aware of any complaints that may have been made to his Department in respect of profiteering on imported decoders?
Mr Chairman, at this stage I am not aware of such complaints but if the hon member will bring such a complaint to my notice I will have it investigated.
asked the Minister of National Education:
- (1) Whether a certain amount of early archival material was recently shown to have been removed unlawfully from archives falling under the control of his Department; if so, (a) what is the approximate extent of the material so removed, (b) what are the main categories of archival material involved and (c) (i) by what means and (ii) when was the material so removed;
- (2) whether all or any of this archival material has been retrieved and returned to the archives; if not, why not; if so, (a) what material has not been recovered and (b) what is the approximate value of the material not recovered;
- (3) whether he has (a) taken any steps departmentally to prevent a repetition of this unlawful removal and (b) had legal proceedings instituted in this regard; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant particulars;
- (4) whether all regulations as set out in Government Notice R 460 of 12 March 1982 have been strictly applied at all archives falling under the Directorate of the Government Archives Service; if not, why not;
- (5) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
- (1) Yes.
- (a) Approximately 700 documents.
- (b) Documents from the period of the Dutch East India Company.
- (c)
- (i) Possibly smuggled out of the reading room.
- (ii) The past two years.
- (2) Yes, approximately 524 documents.
- (a) Documents of a diverse nature.
- (b) Unknown.
- (3)
- (a) Yes.
- (b) Yes. Case reported to police; a suspect had been arrested who will again appear in court shortly.
- (4) Yes, as far as humanly possible.
- (5) No.
asked the Minister of National Education:
- (1) Whether the Directorate of the Government Archives Service has a policy of accessibility by researchers to South African Government archival material dating from 1910; if not, why not; is so, (a) what is this policy and (b) (i) when and (ii) by which body or persons was it decided upon;
- (2) whether any distinction is made in respect of requests from individual researchers for access to these archives; if so, on what basis is such a distinction made;
- (3) whether the archives of the (a) Department of the Prime Minister, (b) Department of Foreign Affairs, (c) Department of Native Affairs and (d) South African Defence Force up to 31 December 1955 are available for research and scrutiny in terms of paragraphs (a) and (b) of section 9(2) of the Archives Act, No 6 of 1962; if not, why not;
- (4) whether, in terms of the proviso to section 9(2) of the said Act, he has denied access to any archival material which would normally be available for public scrutiny; if so, (a) to which material has he denied access and (b)(i) when and (ii) why was this decision taken;
- (5) whether any appeals have been submitted to him in terms of section 9(3) of the said Act; if so, (a) how many such appeals were submitted during the period 1 January 1983 to 31 December 1987, (b) for access to which State Departments and/or periods were these appeals made and (c) what was the result of each appeal?
- (1) Yes.
- (a) The Archives Act of 1962 (Act No 6 of 1962) stipulates in Section 9(2)(a) and (b) that documents up to 1955 are accessible unless they have been closed by the Minister of National Education in terms of Section 9(2)(b)(i) or withheld by the Director of Archives in terms of Section 9(2)(b)(ii). In terms of Section 9(2)(b)(i) of Act No 6 of 1962 the Minister, after consultation with certain State Departments, in 1980 directed that the archives of these departments be closed for a longer period than stipulated by the Act owing to the sensitive nature thereof.
- (b)
- (i) 1979 and 1980.
- (ii) Parliament in the case of the above-mentioned amendment legislation of 1979, and the Minister in consultation with the State Departments in question in the case of archives which should be considered closed for a longer period than the minimum.
- (2) No. When researchers require access to closed archives, each application is considered individually, according to the nature of the archives concerned.
- (3)
- (a) Yes. The Department of the Prime Minister, however, requested that documents which are younger than fifty years only be made available after consultation with that office.
- (b) No. The Department of Foreign Affairs requested that all their archives be regarded as closed.
- (c) Yes.
- (d) No. Access to archives relating to the South African Defence Force in the custody of the Archives Depot of the Defence Force may not, in terms of Section 9(7) of Act 6 of 1962, be authorized without the approval of the Minister of National Education in consultation with the Minister of Defence.
- (4) Yes.
- (a) Archives of the Department of Foreign Affairs, Department of the Prime Minister, Governor-General and Executive Council.
- (b)
- (i) Such cases were considered during 1982, 1983 and 1985.
- (ii) At the request of the departments concerned.
- (5) No.
- (i) Lapsed.
- (ii) Lapsed.
- (iii) Lapsed.
asked the Minister of National Education:
- (1) Whether the administration of the Legal Deposit of Publications Act, No 17 of 1982, falls under his Department; if not, under which Department does it fall; if so,
- (2) whether any person or organization undertakes the review of all South African publications to ensure that deposits are made to all legal deposit libraries; if not, why not;
- (3) whether, since the commencement of the Legal Deposit of Publications Act, he or his Department has had any legal proceedings instituted as contemplated in section 8 of the Act; if not, why not; if so, (a) how many such legal proceedings had been instituted as at the latest specified date for which information is available and (b) what was the result in each case;
- (4) whether he or his Department has received any complaints and/or representations regarding the failure of publishers to make legal deposits as required under the Act; if so, (a) from what persons or bodies and (b) with what results?
- (1) Yes.
- (2) Yes. Each legal deposit library employs an officer to verify the receipt of South African publications on an ongoing basis with the aid of lists of publications supplied by publishers and advertisements and announcements of new publications in the media. These officers liaise with one another to ensure that deposits are made to all legal deposit libraries.
- (3) No. No offences in this regard have been reported.
- (4) No.
asked the Minister of Education and Development Aid:
- (1) Whether any (a) interactive video, (b) computer, (c) television, (d) video and (e) other specified equipment has been purchased by his Department from a certain firm, the name of which has been furnished to the Minister’s Department for the purpose of his reply; if so, (i) what equipment, (ii) when, (iii) what was the total amount spent on equipment and other supplies purchased from this firm to date and (iv) what is the name of the firm in question;
- (2) whether there are any outstanding orders in respect of which delivery has not as yet been effected by this firm; if so, (a) what orders and (b) what is the total amount involved?
- (1) (a) Yes, as part of an integrated IVIS system. This system includes (b) computer equipment, (c) television screens, (d) video apparatus and (e) courseware in Mathematics for Standards 8,9 and 10 and such other equipment needed to operate this courseware interactively.
- (i) IVIS interactive video system with 30 terminals as a unit and courseware in Mathematics for Standards 8, 9 and 10.
- (ii) March 1986.
- (iii) R4 894 981,28.
- (iv) Learning Technologies (Pty) Ltd.
- (2) No.
- (a) Falls away.
- (b) Falls away.
asked the Minister of Education and Development Aid:
Whether, with reference to certain information which has been furnished to the Minister’s Department for the purpose of his reply, his Department has been involved in business transactions with any business undertakings with which a certain person is associated; if so, (a) what are the names of these business undertakings, (b) what is the nature of each of these transactions, (c) what was the total amount of money involved and (d) what is the name of the person in question?
Yes
- (a) Learning Technologies (Pty) Ltd.
- (b) The purchase of courseware for Mathematics Standards 8, 9 and 10 as well as the interactive video system needed to operate this courseware.
- (c) R4 894 981,28.
- (d) The name furnished is Mr W P Fourie. The person at the firm concerned with whom negotiations for the purchase of the system were conducted is Mr Clive Baron. Mr W P Fourie was at no time involved in the negotiations.
asked the Minister of Law and Order:†
- (1) Whether, with reference to information furnished to the South African Police for the purposes of the Minister’s reply, a member of the Police dog unit in Kimberley has been charged with certain offences as a result of a shooting incident which took place at Kakamas in February 1988; if so, (a) what were the circumstances surrounding this incident and (b) (i) with what offences has this member been charged and (ii) what is his name;
- (2) whether the Police investigation into this incident has been completed; if so, when;
- (3) whether the involvement of other policemen in this incident has been investigated; if so,
- (4) whether any other members of the Police Force are to be charged as a result of this investigation; if so, (a) what are their names and (b) with what will they be charged?
(1) to (4) A member of the South African Police has already appeared in court as a result of this incident. The matter is therefore the subject of a judicial process. Consequently the requested information is not furnished, because it could anticipate the judicial process.
asked the Minister of Transport Affairs: †
- (1) Whether the railway line between Gingindlovu and Eshowe is closed at present; if so, (a) since what date and (b) why;
- (2) whether the South African Transport Services have taken measures to replace the services previously provided by means of this railway line; if so, what measures;
- (3) whether he will make a statement on the planning in respect of the future use of the railway line concerned?
- (1) Yes.
- (a) 28 September 1987.
- (b) As a result of washaways.
- (2) Yes. A road transport service was introduced.
- (3) The economy of the line is presently being evaluated in accordance with a new branch line strategy. As soon as the results are known a final decision whether or not the line should be closed will be taken.
asked the Minister of Economic Affairs and Technology:†
- (1) Whether there was (a) an increase in the importation of, and (b) a decrease in the exportation of. processed foodstuffs, during the latest specified period of 12 months for which information is available; if so, (i) by what percentage, and (ii) why, in each case;
- (2) whether his Department is taking steps to encourage more efficient manufacturing processes; if not, why not; if so, what steps;
- (3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
- (1) (a) and (b) It should be explained that in the circumstances of the increasingly complex situation that South Africa faces internationally, particulars of the country’s foreign trade are regarded as sensitive information of which an analysis in any form should not be made public. This applies so much the more in the case of agricultural products which represent one of the items singled out for international action against South Africa.
- (2) Yes. When considering applications for the introduction of additional customs tariffs, the efficiency of local manufacturers is taken into account. Apart from this, Government is taking certain actions with regard to the improvement of technology.
- (3) No.
Own Affairs:
*1. Mr A GERBER
— Education and Culture.
[Withdrawn.]
asked the Minister of Education and Culture:!
- (1) Whether school principals falling under the Transvaal Education Department are required to complete a TED 493 form in respect of each meeting held by outside agencies at their schools; if so, what steps are taken against school principals who fail to complete these forms; if not,
- (2) whether the size of meetings is a determining factor as regards the completion of such forms; if so, what are the relevant particulars in this connection?
- (1) No, the applicant completes form TED 493 for consideration by the local governing body;
- (2) no.
Mr Chairman, arising out of the hon the Minister’s reply, is it left to the discretion of the school principal concerned to decide whether it is necessary for the form to be completed; and can the hon the Minister indicate to us how large the meeting may be before it becomes necessary to complete the specific form?
Mr Chairman, I think it is unnecessary for me to reply to the hon member’s supplementary question, because, in response to the hon member’s original question, I very clearly indicated that the size of the meetings is not a determining factor. There is not an exact number of members which will give us that cut-off point. I also refer the hon member to the reply to his own question, Question No 2 of 29 March 1988, where he will obtain further details.
asked the Minister of Education and Culture:!
- (1) Whether he will furnish information on the Hippokrates and Francie van Zijl hostels of the University of Stellenbosch; if not, why not; if so,
- (2) whether permission has been granted for non-White students to be accommodated in the above-mentioned hostels; if so, (a) by whom and (b) how many non-White students are accommodated in these hostels at present;
- (3) whether exemption from the provisions of the Group Areas Act has been obtained in respect of these hostels; is so, (a) when and (b) on what (i) grounds and (ii) conditions; if not, what procedure was followed in this connection;
- (4) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
- (1) Yes, in so far as it falls within my jurisdiction since the hostels are the responsibility of the council of the University of Stellenbosch;
- (2) yes,
- (a) by me, but I wish to point out that this permission does not establish a precedent for the opening of other similar residences as each such application is considered in terms of Item 14 of Schedule 1 of the Constitution,
- (b) 7 in Hippokrates and 1 in Francie van Zijl;
- (3) this question should be put to the Minister concerned;
- (4) no.
Mr Chairman, arising out of the hon the Minister’s reply, is he aware of the fact that the first application ever approved for a person of colour to stay in a White university hostel was approved by the hon the Leader of the Official Opposition in the days when he was still a Deputy Minister in the NP?
You still falsified those things.
Order! The hon member for Overvaal must withdraw the charge of falsification.
Mr Chairman, may I address you on that?
No, you may not address me on that.
There was a debate on that matter.
Order! It does not matter. My ruling is that you may not acuse another hon member of falsifying things.
I withdraw it, Mr Chairman.
Mr Chairman, on a point of order: The hon the Leader of the Official Opposition said the same thing.
I did not hear it. Did the hon the Leader of the Official Opposition say that?
Mr Chairman, I used the word "falsified”, but I did not use it in regard to this matter.
I shall then leave it at that.
If I were you, I would rather keep quiet about that document. Your history with regard to that document is not all that unblemished.
It is a falsified document.
Order! I do not think the supplementary question of the hon member for Springs necessarily arises out of the reply, and we shall therefore proceed to the next question. [Interjections.] Order!
asked the Minister of Education and Culture:
- (1) Whether he or his Department recently issued a policy directive on school sport and culture to provincial education departments and schools; if so, (a) when and (b) what persons or bodies were consulted before the policy was decided upon;
- (2) whether this policy directive document is available to members of the public; if not, why not;
- (3) whether he will make the official policy directive document available to Parliament; if not, why not?
- (1) Yes,
- (a) 28 March 1988,
- (b) the ministerial representatives.
the provincial education councils, the Committee of Heads of Education, and the Teachers’ Federal Council;
- (2) no, documents of this kind are intended for internal use by the provincial education departments and are therefore not made available;
- (3) refer (2); a summary of the policy was, however, released to the Press on 1988-03-29.
Mr Chairman, arising out of the hon the Minister’s reply, will he not in fact consider issuing the full document, at least to hon members of this House, since the press release which is reported to be a summary of it, is at best incomprehensible and at its worst does not make any sense at all.
Mr Chairman, no, I am not considering it, and on the basis of my reply to the second part of the question, in which we quite clearly indicate that these documents are for the internal use of the departments themselves, we do not make a public statement on them. I would like to assure the hon member, however, that my summary is indeed to a large extent exactly what is contained in the document.
Mr Chairman, further arising out of the hon the Minister’s reply, I would just like to ask him whether he has taken note of the fact that the postponement of his original statement with regard to this policy directive until after the by-election in Randfontein, was of no avail.
Mr Chairman, further arising out of the hon the Minister’s reply, in view of the fact that parents and parent bodies, in terms of the public statement made, are involved in this process of decisions, surely they should have access to the directives in detail so that they know what those directives actually are?
The hon member is quite right, Mr Chairman. We realize it too. The directors of education have the full statement available. The directors of education naturally share it with their school principals, and their school principals also share it with the management councils so that the management councils know exactly what the directives are. In reply to his question I would further like to point out that this policy has already been cleared with the provincial education councils, and in the provincial education councils there is representation of the parents and the organised profession, and they know exactly what the contents are.
asked the Minister of Education and Culture:
- (1) Whether any (a) interactive video, (b) computer, (c) television, (d) video and (e) other specified equipment has been purchased by his Department from a certain firm, the name of which has been furnished to the Minister’s Department for the purpose of his reply; if so, (i) what equipment, (ii) when, (iii) what was the total amount spent on equipment and other supplies purchased from this firm to date and (iv) what is the name of the firm in question;
- (2) whether there are any outstanding orders in respect of which delivery has not as yet been effected by this firm; if so, (a) what orders and (b) what is the total amount involved?
- (1) (a), (b), (c), (d) and (e) No, no purchases were made from the firm Learning Technologies,
- (i), (ii), (iii) and (iv) fall away;
- (2) no,
- (a) and (b) fall away.
asked the Minister of Local Government and Housing:
- (1) Whether his Department issued a notice in February 1987 under the heading “Phasing Out of Rent Control” in respect of the Cape Peninsula; if so,
- (2) whether any action has been taken or is to be taken arising from this notice; if not, why not; if so, (a) what action, (b) when, (c) in what manner and (d)(i) what suburbs and (ii) how many dwelling units have been affected?
- (1) Yes;
- (2) Yes;
- (a) The phasing out programme of properties under rent control is implemented in administrative manageable phases in priority sequence;
- (b) As from 17 February 1987;
- (c) Regarding phase 1 questionnaires were sent to tenants of rent controlled units in order to determine which tenants qualify for continued rent control protection;
- (d)
- (i)
Bantry Bay
Clifton
Camps Bay
Bakoven
Hout Bay
Llundudno
Fresnaye
Rondebosch
Constantia
Bergvliet
Milnerton
Woodstock
University Estate
Blaauwbergstrand
Lansdowne
Pinelands - (ii) 905 units have been affected in phase 1 and have since been exempted from rent control.
- (i)
For written reply:
General Affairs:
asked the Minister of Justice:
Whether any criminal charges were brought against any persons in the Western Cape in connection with offences in terms of the Group Areas Act during the latest specified period of 12 months for which information is available ; if so, (a) how many and (b) in how many of these cases were (i) convictions and (ii) acquittals obtained?
The following information is for the period 1 March 1987 until 29 February 1988:
No.
I may add that the Attorney-General, Cape Town, has in respect of 130 dockets which were referred to him, not yet made a decision. Of these approximately 50 dockets were referred back to the South African Police for further investigation. The remainder are receiving the attention of the Attorney-General.
asked the Minister of Finance:
- (1) Whether he or any Deputy Ministers attached to his Department undertook any overseas visits in 1987; if so, (a) which countries were visited and (b) what was the purpose of each visit;
- (2) whether he or these Deputy Ministers were accompanied by any representatives of the media on these visits; if so, (a) what were the names of the journalists involved, (b) which newspapers or radio or television networks did they represent, (c) to which countries did each of these persons accompany him or these Deputy Ministers and (d) why;
- (3) whether any costs were incurred by his Department as a result; if so, what total amount in that year?
- (1) Yes.
- (a) Switzerland
West Germany
Britain
United States of America
Chile
Brazil
Austria
Belgium - (b) Europe — to pay visits to banks and other financial institutions.
USA — attendance of the annual meetings of the IMF and World Bank.
Chile and Brazil — to discuss monetary and fiscal policy as well as the reconstruction of agriculture with central banks and government institutions.
Austria and Belgium — to pay visits to banks and other financial institutions.
- (a) Switzerland
- (2) No.
- (3) Falls away.
asked the State President:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in his Office is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Deputy Minister of Information:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in the Bureau for Information is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister of Environment Affairs:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in his Department is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in the Department of Transport is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister of Home Affairs:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in his Department is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister of Finance:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in his Department is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister of Economic Affairs and Technology:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in the Department of Trade and Industry is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister of Agriculture:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in his Department is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister of Justice:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in the Department of Justice is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister of Manpower:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in his Department is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister of Education and Development Aid:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in the Department of Education and Training is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister of National Education:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in his Department is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in his Department is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister in the State President’s Office entrusted with Administration and Broadcasting Services:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in his Department is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
To question 774, as well as on behalf of the Ministers concerned to the similarly phrased questions concerning General Affairs Nos. 760,761,762,763,764,765,766,767,768,769, 770,771,773,775, 776,777,778,781,782, 783 and 784 and concerning Own Affairs Nos. 82, 83, 84, 85, 86 and 87.
No.
- (a)
- (i) As soon as a private secretary has completed the prescribed period for assessment of his promotability in the occupational class of which he is a member, he is assessed, depending on his rank, by a departmental merit or efficiency assessment committee to determine his suitability for promotion in the relevant occupational class. (It should be mentioned that an Occupational Class Private Secretary does not exist. Officers are drawn from various occupational classes to be utilised as private secretaries.)
- (ii) If a private secretary has been found to be the most suitable candidate for the filling of a vacant higher post in the occupational class of which he is a member, or a vacant higher post in any other occupational class for which he qualifies for promotion, he is promoted to the post concerned or, if his continued employment by the Minister is required, he is promoted personally to the relevant rank while still being utilised as private secretary. If a private secretary is employed in an occupational class in which he may be promoted to a higher leg of a link scale or to a next higher rank, he is promoted to the higher leg or next higher rank concerned, as the case may be, if he is found to be promotable, after completing the qualifying period. As a rule, an officer is utilised as private secretary only up to and including the rank of Deputy Director (or equivalent).
- (b) The same as that of his peers in rank in the occupational class of which he is a member, or in any other occupational class in which he may qualify for promotion, on the basis of applicable qualifications and experience.
asked the Minister of Education and Development Aid:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in the Department of Development Aid is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister of Public Works and Land Affairs:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in his Department is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister of Justice:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in the Prisons Service is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assesing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister of Economic Affairs and Technology:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in the Department of Mineral and Energy Affairs is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister of Water Affairs:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in his Department is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister of Law and Order:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in the South African Police is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister of Defence:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in the South African Defence Force is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister of National Health and Population Development:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in his Department is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister in the State President’s Office entrusted with Administration and Broadcasting Services:
- (1) Whether, with reference to the reply of the Minister of Education and Culture to Question No 58 on 14 August 1987, the transfer of local management functions has been concluded; if not, (a) why not and (b) when is it anticipated that it will be completed; if so,
- (2) whether the identification and functioning of provincial public libraries have been finalized; if not, why not; if so, (a) which provincial public libraries have been identified as White own affairs, (b) why have they been so identified (c) when were they transferred to his Department and (d) who took the decision in this regard;
- (3) who will be responsible for (a) ordering and (b) buying books for such libraries?
- (1) No.
- (a) The investigation is extensive and complicated.
- (b) As soon as the investigation has been completed and the procedural requirements of the Constitutional Act, 1983 (Act 110 of 1983) for the transfer of functions have been complied with.
- (2) Provincial administrations do not have provincial public libraries. Provincial administration do, however, provide professional support and supply stocks of books to libraries of local authorities. The Cabinet has decided that the afore-mentioned service should be continued by the provincial administrations as a general affair and that the own affairs administrations may decide whether they want to continue utilising the service and to what extent. A library of a local authority may, depending on its clientele group, be an own affair for that group.
- (a), (b), (c) and (d) Fall away.
- (3) Falls away.
asked the Minister in the State President’s Office entrusted with Administration and Broadcasting Services:
- (1) Whether it is the intention to privatize in the current year any hospitals or other health facilities falling under the provincial administrations; if so, (a) how many and (b) which (i) hospitals and (ii) other health facilities;
- (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
To questions No. 897, 898 and 899.
- (1) Privatisation possibilities in respect of hospitals and other health services can only be determined after the investigation in this regard, with which Dr W J de Villiers is still busy, has been completed and his recommendations have been considered by the Committee of Ministers on Privatisation and Deregulation.
- (a), (b)(i) and (ii) Fall away.
- (2) No.
asked the Minister in the State President’s Office entrusted with Administration and Broadcasting Services:
- (1) Whether it is the intention to privatize in the current year any hospitals or other health facilities falling under the Department of Health Services and Welfare of the House of Assembly; if so, (a) how many and (b) which (i) hospitals and (ii) other health facilities;
- (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
See reply to Question No 897 on 26 April 1988 (col 1188).
asked the Minister in the State President’s Office entrusted with Administration and Broadcasting Services:
- (1) Whether it is the intention to privatize in the current year any hospitals or other health facilities falling under the Department of National Health and Population Development; if so, (a) how many and (b) which (i) hospitals and (ii) other health facilities;
- (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
See reply to Question No 897 on 26 April 1988 (col 1188).
asked the State President:
- (1) Whether employees in his Office are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister in the State President’s Office entrusted with Administration and Broadcasting Services:
- (1) Whether employees in his Department are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
To question 906, as well as on behalf of the Ministers concerned to the similarly phrased questions concerning General Affairs Nos. 905,907,908,909,910,911,912,913,914,916, 917,918,919,920,921,922,923,924,925,926, 928 and 929 and concerning own Affairs Nos. 108, 109, 110, 111, 112 and 113.
- (1) (a) and (b) Individual officers and employees as well as members of the Services Departments may, in terms of the statutory provisions applicable to them, ask for permission to do additional work or to participate in any business undertaking of their own, other than their work in the Public Service Departments. Such applications are considered by the Minister of the department concerned or his delegate in the Department.
- (2) Yes. The normal prescribed conditions are as follows:
- — The person concerned should in no way be hampered in the performance of his official duties.
- — The work should be performed entirely outside the prescribed hours of attendance.
- — The work should not be of such a nature that the State, Government or the department may be embarrassed in any way.
asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:
- (1) Whether employees in his Department are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister of Foreign Affairs:
- (1) Whether employees in his Department are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister of National Education:
- (1) Whether employees in his Department are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister of Manpower:
- (1) Whether employees in his Department are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister of Public Works and Land Affairs:
- (1) Whether employees in his Department are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister of Agriculture:
- (1) Whether employees in his Department are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister of Finance:
- (1) Whether employees in his Department are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister of Home Affairs:
- (1) Whether employees in his Department are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister of National Health and Population Development:
- (1) Whether employees in his Department are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister of Environment Affairs:
- (1) Whether employees in his Department are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister of Water Affairs:
- (1) Whether employees in his Department are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister of Education and Development Aid:
- (1) Whether employees in the Department of Education and Training are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister of Education and Development Aid:
- (1) Whether employees in the Department of Development Aid are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister of Justice:
- (1) Whether employees in the Department of Justice are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister of Justice:
- (1) Whether employees in the Prisons Service are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister of Defence:
- (1) Whether employees in the South African Defence Force are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister of Economic Affairs and Technology:
- (1) Whether employees in the Department of Mineral and Energy Affairs are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister of Economic Affairs and Technology:
- (1) Whether employees in the Department of Trade and Industry are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:
- (1) Whether employees in the Department of Transport are permitted to (a) taken on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister of Law and Order:
- (1) Whether employees in the South African Police are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Deputy Minister of Information:
- (1) Whether employees in the Bureau for Information are permitted to (a) taken on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister of Home Affairs:
(a) How many persons of Eastern European origin entered South Africa over the latest specified period of five years for which figures are available, (b) how many of these persons (i) were (aa) visitors and (bb) immigrants and (ii) had been granted (aa) permanent and (bb) temporary residence permits and (c) from which countries did they come?
1983 |
1984 |
1985 |
1986 |
1987 |
|
(a) |
|||||
Bulgaria |
19 |
21 |
16 |
24 |
27 |
Czechoslovakia |
132 |
169 |
93 |
123 |
55 |
East Germany |
5 |
16 |
2 |
14 |
5 |
Hungary |
150 |
157 |
281 |
190 |
168 |
Poland |
5 060 |
5 393 |
4 561 |
3 520 |
2 781 |
Rumania |
20 |
61 |
31 |
65 |
36 |
Russia |
110 |
72 |
76 |
156 |
54 |
Yugoslavia |
559 |
485 |
735 |
668 |
526 |
Total |
6 055 |
6 374 |
5 795 |
4 760 |
3 652 |
(b) (i) (aa) |
|||||
Bulgaria |
19 |
21 |
16 |
24 |
27 |
Czechoslovakia |
128 |
169 |
86 |
123 |
55 |
East Germany |
5 |
16 |
2 |
14 |
5 |
Hungary |
137 |
148 |
275 |
187 |
164 |
Poland |
4 953 |
5 305 |
4 521 |
3 511 |
2 763 |
Rumania |
20 |
60 |
30 |
63 |
35 |
Russia |
109 |
63 |
76 |
156 |
54 |
Yugoslavia |
548 |
428 |
708 |
665 |
514 |
Total |
5 919 |
6 210 |
5 714 |
4 743 |
3 617 |
(b) (i) (bb) |
|||||
Bulgaria |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
Czechoslovakia |
4 |
0 |
7 |
0 |
0 |
East Germany |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
Hungary |
13 |
9 |
6 |
3 |
4 |
Poland |
107 |
88 |
40 |
9 |
18 |
Rumania |
0 |
1 |
1 |
2 |
1 |
Russia |
1 |
9 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
Yugoslavia |
11 |
57 |
27 |
3 |
12 |
Total |
136 |
164 |
81 |
17 |
35 |
(b) (ii) (aa) |
|||||
Bulgaria |
1 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
Czechoslovakia |
0 |
15 |
2 |
9 |
1 |
East Germany |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
Hungary |
1 |
12 |
15 |
6 |
1 |
Poland |
103 |
74 |
79 |
71 |
35 |
Rumania |
2 |
10 |
5 |
11 |
0 |
Russia |
1 |
2 |
0 |
6 |
0 |
Yugoslavia |
6 |
11 |
13 |
13 |
17 |
Total |
114 |
124 |
114 |
116 |
54 |
(b) (ii) (bb) |
|||||
Bulgaria |
19 |
21 |
16 |
24 |
27 |
Czechoslovakia |
128 |
169 |
86 |
123 |
55 |
East Germany |
5 |
16 |
2 |
14 |
5 |
Hungary |
137 |
148 |
275 |
187 |
164 |
Poland |
4 953 |
5 305 |
4 521 |
3 511 |
2 763 |
Rumania |
20 |
60 |
30 |
63 |
35 |
Russia |
109 |
63 |
76 |
156 |
54 |
Yugoslavia |
548 |
428 |
708 |
665 |
514 |
Total |
5 919 |
6 210 |
5 714 |
4 743 |
3 617 |
(c) As set out in (a) and (b) above.
Own Affairs:
asked the Minister of the Budget and Works:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in the Department of Budgetary and Auxiliary Services is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service ; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister of Health Services:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in his Department is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister of Local Government, Housing and Works:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in his Department is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister of Agriculture and Water Supply:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in his Department is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister of the Budget and Welfare:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in the Department of Welfare is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister of Education and Culture:
Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in his Department is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?
See reply to Question No 774 on 26 April 1988 (col 1183).
asked the Minister of Education and Culture:
- (1) Whether employees in his Department are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister of Local Government, Housing and Works:
- (1) Whether employees in his Department are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister of Health Services:
- (1) Whether employees in his Department are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister of Agriculture and Water Supply:
- (1) Whether employees in his Department are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister of the Budget and Works:
- (1) Whether employees in the Department of Budgetary and Auxiliary Services are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
asked the Minister of the Budget and Welfare:
- (1) Whether employees in the Department of Welfare are permitted to (a) take on extra employment and (b) participate in any type of business of their own; if so,
- (2) whether this permission is granted subject to any conditions; if so, what conditions?
See reply to Question No 906 on 26 April 1988 (col 1190).
†Indicates translated version.
For written reply:
General Affairs:
asked the Minister of Home Affairs:
(a) How many (i) non-White and (ii) White persons (aa) applied for (bb) were granted and (cc) were refused South African citizenship in each of the latest specified five years for which information is available, (b) in respect of each of these years, (i) of which countries were these (aa) non-White and (bb) White persons citizens and (ii) how many of them came from each such country and (c) what were the main reasons for (i) granting and (ii) refusing citizenship to these (aa) non-White and (bb) White applicants?
(a) (i) |
1983 |
1984 |
1985 |
1986 |
1987 |
|
(aa) |
249 |
193 |
239 |
239 |
260 |
|
(bb) |
224 |
177 |
198 |
207 |
148 |
|
(cc) |
3 |
1 |
6 |
4 |
1 |
|
(ii) |
||||||
(aa) |
5 137 |
5 245 |
4 491 |
4 196 |
3 728 |
|
(bb) |
3 438 |
4 029 |
3 282 |
3 440 |
2 735 |
|
(cc) |
11 |
33 |
21 |
19 |
11 |
The reason why the number of refusals does not correspond with the difference between the number of applications received and the number of applications granted, is due to the fact that applications of applicants who had not yet completed the required period of residence as stipulated in section 10 of the South African Citizenship Act, 1949 (Act 44 of 1949), were not counted as refusals. Such applicants were notified by letter when to apply.
(b) Separate statistics are available from 1986/07/01 only and are as follows:
1986 |
1987 |
||
(i) |
(ii) |
||
(aa) |
Botswana |
— |
3 |
China |
13 |
17 |
|
India |
47 |
76 |
|
Ireland |
— |
1 |
|
Mauritius |
— |
2 |
|
Pakistan |
— |
1 |
|
Portugal |
— |
1 |
|
Sri-Lanka |
— |
1 |
|
Taiwan |
— |
1 |
|
United Kingdom |
— |
1 |
|
Zambia |
— |
1 |
|
Zimbabwe |
1 |
1 |
|
Stateless |
20 |
43 |
|
(bb) |
Angola |
1 |
— |
Argentina |
— |
6 |
|
Australia |
2 |
4 |
|
Austria |
1 |
14 |
|
Belgium |
11 |
14 |
|
Bolivia |
— |
1 |
|
Botswana |
2 |
8 |
|
Brazilia |
— |
1 |
|
Bulgaria |
— |
2 |
|
Canada |
3 |
8 |
|
Chile |
5 |
— |
|
Colombia |
1 |
1 |
|
Cyprus |
7 |
26 |
|
Czechoslovakia |
9 |
31 |
|
Denmark |
1 |
2 |
|
Egypt |
— |
1 |
|
France |
2 |
12 |
|
Germany |
19 |
49 |
|
Greece |
32 |
73 |
|
Hungary |
5 |
22 |
|
Iceland |
1 |
— |
|
Iran |
4 |
7 |
|
Ireland |
5 |
10 |
|
Israel |
38 |
62 |
|
Italy |
14 |
17 |
|
Kenya |
2 |
2 |
|
Lebanon |
3 |
5 |
|
Lesotho |
— |
1 |
|
Lithuania |
— |
3 |
|
Mauritius |
5 |
15 |
|
Mocambique |
1 |
1 |
|
New Zealand |
3 |
1 |
|
Norway |
2 |
1 |
|
Peru |
— |
1 |
|
Poland |
86 |
333 |
|
Portugal |
59 |
82 |
|
Rumania |
2 |
9 |
|
Seychelles |
1 |
1 |
|
Spain |
2 |
1 |
|
Syria |
2 |
— |
|
Swaziland |
5 |
8 |
|
Sweden |
— |
1 |
|
Switzerland |
5 |
17 |
|
The Netherlands |
25 |
55 |
|
Transkei |
2 |
— |
|
Turkey |
2 |
1 |
|
United Kingdom |
338 |
694 |
|
United States of America |
2 |
3 |
|
Uruguay |
1 |
1 |
|
Yugoslavia |
10 |
28 |
|
Zaire |
— |
2 |
|
Zambia |
5 |
21 |
|
Zimbabwe |
627 |
1 063 |
|
Stateless |
17 |
25 |
- (c) (i) and (ii)
- (aa) and (bb) All applications were considered in accordance with the provisions of the South African Citizenship Act, 1949 (Act 44 of 1949). Those that met the requirements as laid down in the aforementioned act were granted and those that did not, were refused.
†Indicates translated version.
For written reply:
General Affairs:
asked the Minister of Home Affairs:
How many persons were repatriated to the (a) independent Black states and (b) self-governing territories from the Republic in (i) 1985, (ii) 1986 and (iii) 1987?
Prior to 1 July 1986, repatriations and removals of Blacks from the Republic in terms of the Blacks (Urban Areas) Consolidation Act, 1945 (Act 25 of 1945); the Aliens Act, 1937 (Act 1 of 1937) and the Admission of Persons to the Republic Regulation Act, 1972 (Act 59 of 1972) were the responsibility of the former Department of Co-operation and Development and the Department of Constitutional Development and Planning, respectively. Since the abolition of influx control with effect froml July 1986 and the consequent repeal of the Blacks (Urban Areas) Consolidation Act, 1945 (Act 25 of 1945) from the same date, the removal of Blacks from the Republic in terms of the provisions of the Aliens Act, 1937 (Act 1 of 1937) and the Admission of Persons to the Republic Regulation Act, 1972 (Act 59 of 1972) has become the responsibility of the Department of Home Affairs.
Citizens of the self-governing areas are also South African citizens and as such are not subject to the provisions of the latter two acts. Except for removals to the independent Black states during the period 1 January 1986 to 30 June 1986, no statistics for the priod prior to 1 July 1986 are available in the Department. My reply to the hon member’s question, therefore, is as follows:
- (a)
- (i) No statistics available.
- (ii) 146 for the period 1 January to 30 June. No persons removed during the remainder of the year.
- (iii) None.
- (b)
- (i) No statistics available.
- (ii) No statistics for the period 1 January to 30 June, available. No persons removed during the period 1 July to 31 December.
- (iii) None.