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House of Assembly: Vol7 - MONDAY 25 APRIL 1988

MONDAY, 25 APRIL 1988 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY

†Indicates translated version.

For written reply :

General Affairs:

Overseas visits 564. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

  1. (1) Whether he or the Deputy Minister of Transport Affairs undertook any overseas visits in 1987; if so, (a) which countries were visited and (b) what was the purpose of each visit;
  2. (2) whether he or this Deputy Minister was accompanied by any representatives of the media on these visits; if so, (a) what were the names of the journalists involved, (b) which newspapers or radio or television networks did they represent, (c) to which countries did each of these persons accompany him or this Deputy Minister and (d) why;
  3. (3) whether any costs were incurred by the South African Transport Services and/or the Department of Transport as a result; if so, what total amount in that year in each case?
 The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:

Minister of Transport Affairs

  1. (1) Yes.
    1. (a) Various countries in Europe.
    2. (b) To discuss transport matters.
  2. (2) No.
  3. (3) No.

Deputy Minister of Transport Affairs

  1. (1) Yes.
    1. (a) United Kingdom.
    2. (b) Private study tour and vacation.
  2. (2) and (3) Fall away.
 Overseas visits 576. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Education and Development Aid:

  1. (1) Whether he or the Deputy Minister of Education undertook any overseas visits in 1987; if so, (a) which countries were visited and (b) what was the purpose of each visit;
  2. (2) whether he or this Deputy Minister was accompanied by any representatives of the media on these visits; if so, (a) what were the names of the journalists involved, (b) which newspapers or radio or television networks did they represent, (c) to which countries did each of these persons accompany him or this Deputy Minister and (d) why;
  3. (3) whether any costs were incurred by the Department of (a) Education and Training and (b) Development Aid as a result; if so, what total amount in that year in each case?
 The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND DEVELOPMENT AID:
  1. (1) Yes; The Minister of Education and Development Aid.
    1. (a) Hong Kong and Taiwan.
    2. (b) A housing and education study visit in respect of Hong Kong.
      At the invitation of the Republic of China in respect of Taiwan.
  2. (2) No.
    1. (a) Falls away.
    2. (b) Falls away.
    3. (c) Falls away.
    4. (d) Falls away.
  3. (3)
    1. (a) No.
    2. (b) No costs were incurred by the Department of Development Aid as a result of (2).
 Air traffic controllers: reduction of training period 797. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

Whether the Department of Transport intends reducing the training period for air traffic controllers in South Africa; if so, (a) when, (b) what is the (i) present and (ii) proposed training period and (c) how do these training periods compare with those laid down by airlines in other developed countries?

 The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:

No.

(a), (b) and (c) Fall away.

The honourable member’s attention is, however, drawn to the fact that tht total training period for air traffic controllers in South Africa was reduced for reasons of adequacy from 39 to 33 months with effect from 1 February 1988.

 Printing contracts awarded to two companies 829. Mr D J DALLING

asked the Minister of Finance:

  1. (1) Whether his Department awarded any printing contracts in 1987 to two companies, the names of which have been furnished to the Commission for Administration for the purpose of the Minister’s reply, or to their associated companies and printing operations; if so, (a) in respect of what publications or printed matter, (b) how many copies of each publication or item were ordered from each company and (c) what are the names of the companies concerned;
  2. (2) whether these contracts were put out to tender; if not, (a) why not and (b) what was the total amount paid by his Department in respect of each of these contracts; if so, what was the (i) tender price originally accepted, and (ii) total amount paid out, in respect of each contract;
  3. (3) whether his Department subsidizes any publications published by the above companies; if so, (a) which publications and (b) (i) why, and (ii) what is the amount of the subsidy, in each case;
  4. (4) what total amount was spent by his Department in 1987 on printing and publishing involving (a) the above companies and (b) any other specified companies?
 The MINISTER OF FINANCE:
  1. (1) No.
    1. (a) to (c) Fall away.
  2. (2) Falls away.
  3. (3) No.
    1. (a) and (b) fall away.
  4. (4)
    1. (a) Falls away.
    2. (b) The Government Printer printed publications and printed matter for the Department to the amount of R3 338 221,14.
 Senior citizen bond scheme: investors issued with certificates 850. Mr J J WALSH

asked the Minister of Finance:

Whether all investors in the senior citizen bond scheme have been issued with certificates; if not, (a) why not and (b) what was the total number of certificates outstanding by month of application as at the latest specified date for which information is available?

 The MINISTER OF FINANCE:

No.

  1. (a) As a result of the unexpecedly large number of applications for investment in Senior Citizen Savings Bonds and the fact that preference was given to the registration thereof in order to ensure the timeous payment of interest, the issue of certificates was unfortunately unavoidably delayed.
  2. (b) Outstanding certificates as at 31 March 1988 were:

July 1987

21

August 1987

29

September 1987

9

October 1987

3

November 1987

4

December 1987

2

January 1988

4

February 1988

—

March 1988

Total outstanding

72
Senior citizen bonds: interest paid on due dates 851. Mr J J WALSH

asked the Minister of Finance:

Whether all interest due to investors in senior citizen bonds has been paid on the relevant due dates; if not, (a) why not and (b) (i) what amounts were outstanding as at the latest specified date for which information is available and (ii) in which months were these amounts due?

 The MINISTER OF FINANCE:

Yes, with the exception of relatively few applications requiring investigation and in respect of which the interest was subsequently paid, (a), (b) (i) and (ii) fall away.

 Agricultural products: statutory levies 886. Mr R W HARDINGHAM

asked the Minister of Agriculture:

(a) What amounts were collected from producers in the form of statutory levies on each specified agricultural product in each of the latest specified three years for which figures are available and (b) (i) what steps were taken in respect of the amounts so collected, and (ii) for what purpose were they used, in each case?

 The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE:

The audited particulars are published in the various reports of the Auditor-General (which are tabled in Parliament) on the accounts kept in terms of the relevant provisions of the Marketing Act, 1968 (Act 59 of 1968).

 Surplus agricultural foodstuffs distributed to under-privileged/welfare organizations 887. Mr R W HARDINGHAM

asked the Minister of Agriculture:

Whether any surplus agricultural foodstuffs grown or produced in the Republic and marketed through control boards were distributed to (a) the under-privileged and (b) welfare organizations during the latest specified 12-month period for which figures are available; if so, (i) what foodstuffs, (ii) what quantity of each foodstuff and (iii) what was the total estimated value of the foodstuffs so distributed?

 The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE:
  1. (a) Yes
  2. (b) Yes

(i)

Period

(ii)

(iii) (R)

Bananas

1/7/86 - 30/6/87

200 X 20 kg containers

1 924

Potatoes

1/3/87 - 29/2/88

28 026 X 15 kg pockets

70 000

Rooibos tea*

1/1/87 - 31/12/87

1 015 kg

1 553

Oranges

1/3/87 - 29/2/88

8 000 X 10 kg pockets

9 600

Milk powder**

1/3/87 - 29/2/88

4 597 tonnes

2 090 800***

Processed cheese**

1/3/87 - 29/2/88

350 tonnes

196 000***

* In aid of the flood disaster fund.

** Made available to charity organizations at subsidised prices.

*** Value of subsidy.

 Chicken meat imported from France 951. Mr T LANGLEY

asked the Minister of Economic Affairs and Technology:†

Whether in the period before Christmas 1987 he gave permission for chicken meat to be imported from France; if so, (a) what is the total mass of the chicken meat so imported, (b) at what price per kilogram was this meat (i) purchased and (ii) offered for sale locally, (c) what is the country of origin of the meat and (d) (i) how many kilograms of it were sold and (ii) in respect of what date is this information furnished?

 The MINISTER OF ECONOMIC AFFAIRS AND TECHNOLOGY:
  1. (a), (b), (c) and (d) (i): The information is not available.
    Import permits in respect of chicken meat are issued by the Department of Trade and Industry on the recommendation of the Department of Agricultural Economics and Marketing and this is done on a rand value basis only. The country or countries or origin are not specified on permits and importers may, therefore, import the goods mentioned in the permits from any country.
    During the calendar year 1987 the Department of Trade and Industry issued on the recommendation of the Department of Agricultural Economics and Marketing import permits to a total value of R11,3 million to various importers to import frozen chickens (whole and in portions) to supplement shortages on the local market.
  2. (d) (ii) As indicated above.
 Marketing boards; grants for bursary purposes 952. Mr R W HARDINGHAM

asked the Minister of Agriculture:

Whether any marketing boards made grants for bursary purposes in 1986; if so, (a) which marketing boards, (b) how many grants were made by each such marketing board and (c) what was the amount of the grant in each case?

 The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE:

Yes;

(a)

(b)

(c) R

Banana Board

1

1 200

Tobacco Board

4

17 400

Citrus Board

12

54 896

Oil Seeds Board

1

4 200

Deciduous Fruit Board

15

45 000

Cotton Board

2

1 925

Maize Board

13

24 262

Dairy Board

14

56 700

Dried Fruit Board

1

4 200

Wheat Board

6

25 200

Potato Board Dry Bean Board

5

17 980

Grain Sorghum Board Meat Board

11

44 100

Wool Board

26

84 000

Egg Control Board

5

15 770
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

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For written reply:

Own Affairs:

Management committees/local authorities constituted 4. Mr C R REDCLIFFE

asked the Minister of Local Government, Housing and Agriculture:

  1. (1) How many (a) (i) management committees and (ii) other Coloured local authorities had been constituted, and (b) wards were there in the area of each such committee and local authority, as at the latest specified date for which information is available;
  2. (2) on what dates were the most recent general elections held for these committees and local authorities;
  3. (3) whether any vacancies have occurred on these committees or local authorities since the above-mentioned general elections were held; if so, (a) how many vacancies were caused by (i) resignations and (ii) any other specified factors and (b) how many of these vacancies have since been filled by way of by-elections?
 The MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, HOUSING AND AGRICULTURE:
  1. (1)
    1. (a)
      1. (ii) 228
      2. (ii) Local Affairs Committees — 20 Management and Advisory Boards — 24 and Municipality of Pacaltsdorp
    2. (b) The areas of jurisdiction of the following Management and Local Affairs Committees (Natal) and Management/Advisory Boards are divided into wards.

CAPE PROVINCE

Number of wards

Aliwal North

4

Beaufort West

4

George

4

Grabouw

3

Grassy Park

5

Mamre (Management Board)

5

Kimberley

6

Kraaifontein

3

Macassar

4

Melton Rose

4

Oudtshoorn

4

Paarl

4

Port Elizabeth

10

Bellville South

3

Scottsdene

3

Vredenburg-Saldanha

4

Worcester

3

TRANSVAAL

Alberton

5

Boksburg

5

Johannesburg

13

Roodepoort

5

NATAL

Durban

5

Pietermaritzburg

5

ORANGE FREE STATE

All Management Committees

1 ea

The remainder of Committees and Management/Advisory Boards in all other provinces including Pacaltsdorp

1 ea
  1. (2) 1983 (Management/Local Affairs Committees)
    1985 (Management/Advisory Boards)
  2. (3) Yes
    1. (a)
      1. (i) 382
      2. (ii) Disqualification — 66 Deceased — 46
    2. (b) Information not readily available.
 HOUSE OF DELEGATES

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For written reply:

General Affairs:

Indian women: applications to train as cabin attendants 44. Mr K CHETTY

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

(a) How many applications to train as cabin attendants were received from Indian women during the latest specified period of 12 months for which information is available and (b) how many of these applications were (i) successful and (ii) unsuccessful?

 The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:
  1. (a) and (b) (ii) Statistics regarding applications are not longer kept and is not readily available. It will take much time and expense to gather such information.
  2. (b) (i) Nil.

Own Affairs:

Pupils/school psychologists: ratio 41 Mr M RAJAB

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

  1. (1) (a) What was the ratio of pupils to school psychologists at schools falling under the control of his Department as at the latest specified date for which information is available and (b) what criteria are applied in the appointment of these psychologists;
  2. (2) whether school psychologists are required to be registered with the South African Medical and Dental Council; if not, why not?
 The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) Mainstream Schools — 9 121 pupils:
      1 School Psychologist
      Special Schools — 486 pupil : 1 School Psychologist as at 3 March 1987.
  2. (2) Yes.
 University of Durban-Westville: financial accountability 42. Mr M RAJAB

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

  1. (1) Whether the University of Durban-Westville is accountable to him for the funds allocated to it by his Department; if not, why not; if so, (a) what procedure is followed in this regard, (b) when did the university last account to his Department and (c) what is the present state of the finances of the university;
  2. (2) whether he will make available to this House a financial statement on the affairs of the university; if not, why not; if so, when;
  3. (3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
 The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (1) Yes
    1. (a) In terms of the Universities Act, the University is obliged to furnish the Minister with audited financial statements.
    2. (b) As at the financial year ending 31 December 1986.
    3. (c) Financial statements for 1987 are still being finalised by the University.
  2. (2) Yes — as soon as it is available.
  3. (3) No.
 Teachers/subject advisers/heads of departments/ planners/inspectors appointed 44. Mr M RAJAB

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

(a) How many (i) teachers, (ii) subject advisers, (iii) heads of departments, (iv) planners, (v) inspectors and (vi) chief inspectors were appointed by his Department in 1987 and (b) what are the names of the persons who were appointed in that year as (i) heads of departments, (ii) planners, (iii) inspectors and (iv) chief inspectors?

 The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (a)
    1. (i) 853
    2. (ii) Nil
    3. (iii) 185
    4. (iv) Nil
    5. (v) Nil
    6. (vi) Nil
  2. (b)
    1. (i)
      Rasool I. G.
      Naidoo K.
      Sewsunder S.
      Govender S.
      Naidoo S.
      Reddy P. (Miss)
      Singh R.
      Tmothy D. W.
      Bageloo B.
      Ashokumar
      Nulliah P. I.
      Pather S. (Mrs)
      Samuel T. G. M. (Mrs)
      Naidoo J. N.
      David L. M.
      Govender P.
      Naidoo S.
      Samuels K. G. (Mrs)
      Moodley K.
      Ebrahim O. C. E.
      Singh A.
      Saib G. M.
      Maharaj R.
      Krupanandan D. D.
      Yenketswamy R.
      Naidu J.
      Reddy A.
      Govender M. R. (Mrs)
      Mathurajh S.
      Rampali J.
      Padayachee S. T.
      Deepnarain B.
      Naidoo G.
      Ramkisson R.
      Naidu, R. N.
      Motala I.
      Magrajh A.
      Nair D. R.
      Chinna Munsamy L.
      Chetty S. (Mrs)
      Chenia S. A.
      Balwanth B.
      Govender G. M.
      Khoosal I.
      Nadesan N.
      Padayachee P.
      Naidoo Y. (Mrs)
      Naidoo K. K.
      Nadaraju D.
      Juguth A. D. (Miss)
      Persad C. G.
      Maharaj R. D. (Mrs)
      Osman I.
      Singh P. B.
      Panday V.
      Abbas A.
      Subramoney S.
      Medar A. S.
      Govender P. M.
      Somlal D.
      Dhoodhat Y. S.
      Pillay V. (Mrs)
      Vardarajan J.
      Govender E. M.
      Ramdass S.
      Moodley V. A.
      Mohanlal V.
      Govender M. A.
      Ramsewak R.
      Ram Asary L.
      Hiraman K.
      Shaik F.
      Moodley M.
      Akaloo D. (Mrs)
      Rajkumar R. D.
      Nair D.
      Ralph N. (Mrs)
      Jialal Y.
      Thevarathnam
      Sheik Ismail J. A.
      Attwarie A. P.
      Naidoo V.
      Rajkumar K. (Mrs)
      Jugdeshwar M. R. (Mrs)
      Naicker P.
      Singh N.
      Rahim N.
      Rathiram K. I.
      Chetty V. R.
      Singh P. C. (Miss)
      Ahmed F. B. B. (Mrs)
      Ramasary H.
      Rampersad K.
      Naidoo R.
      Pillay G. (Mrs)
      Kransingh N.
      Ramiah K.
      Lahldas R.
      Moodley N. G.
      Arjun P.
      Govender M.
      Gurie A.
      Naidoo H. S.
      Moodley S. P.
      Seeripat D. S.
      Moodley L. (Mrs)
      Singh S.
      Maghnath R.
      Sing W. M.
      Behari K.
      Moodley P. S.
      Govender S.
      Boodhoo R.
      Perumal S.
      Chetty G.
      Juta D. N.
      Essop Akoojee F.
      Naidoo S. (Mrs)
      Pillay P.
      Khota A.
      Motara H.
      Chetty K.
      Bapoo R.
      Ally A. A.
      Cassim F. I. (Miss)
      Khan Z. G. M. (Mrs)
      Naidoo D. R.
      Lawa H. S.
      Thandrind P. J.
      Mahamood A. S.
      Ally E. M.
      Sewdas K.
      Bhowan H.
      Ramtahal R.
      Abdulla F. H.
      Morgan T. B.
      Abdool A. R.
      Thandrand K.
      Maharaj D.
      Sookraj G.
      Ramsaroop D.
      Ebrahim N.
      Govender K.
      Moodley P.
      Brijmohan R.
      Ally A.
      Singh G.
      Vasuthevan S. (Miss)
      Jhupsee R. (Mrs)
      Sewpersad R.
      Attwarie A. S.
      Raman N. (Mrs)
      Latchman R.
      Naidoo S. L.
      Malthoo D.
      Jacob L.
      Balakistan Naidoo M. (Miss)
      Raju S.
      Naidu G. (Miss)
      Gengan M. G.
      Govindasamy S.
      Beni R.
      Ragavaloo M. M. (Mrs)
      Pillay S. M.
      Maharaj S. (Mrs)
      Nagur V.
      Singh C.
      Jugdav K.
      Perumal R. E.
      Pather C.
      Singh K.
      Gewanlal D.
      Singh S. K. (Miss)
      Chengiah J.
      Sithlu D. J.
      Wadee M. I.
      Abrahams R. G.
      Lambat I.
      Peters M.
      Morar A. (Mrs)
      Bhyat A. H.
      Cajee A. M.
      Singh D. B.
      Rajah V. R.
      Govender J. P.
    2. (ii) Falls away.
    3. (iii) Falls away.
    4. (iv) Falls away.
 Teachers/pupils under control of Department 45. Mr M RAJAB

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

How many (a) teachers and (b) pupils were under the control of his Department in 1987?

 The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (a) 11252
  2. (b) 237 626
 Teachers dismissed 46. Mr M RAJAB

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

(a) How many (i) unqualified and (ii) qualified teachers were dismissed by his Department in 1987 and (b) what were the reasons for their dismissal?

 The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (a)
    1. (i) Nil
    2. (ii) 9
  2. (b) Dismissals due to redundancy and misconduct as a result of abscondment.
 Halls/laboratories/libraries/computer rooms/ playing grounds/sports grounds built/equipped 47. Mr M RAJAB

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

How many (a) halls, (b) laboratories, (c) libraries, (d) computer rooms, (e) playing grounds and (f) sports grounds for schools administered by his Department were (i) built and (ii) equipped in 1987?

 The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (a)
    1. (i) 3
    2. (ii) 2
  2. (b)
    1. (i) 20
    2. (ii) 20
  3. (c)
    1. (i) 14
    2. (ii) 14
  4. (d)
    1. (i) 150
    2. (ii) 150
  5. (e)
    1. (i) 14
    2. (ii) 14
  6. (f)
    1. (i) 14
    2. (ii) 14
 Primary/secondary schools: pupil/teacher ratio 48. Mr M RAJAB

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

  1. (1) (a) What was the average pupil/teacher ratio at Indian (i) primary and (ii) secondary schools as at the latest specified date for which figures are available and (b) what was the average number of pupils perclassroom at (i) primary and (ii) secondary schools as at that date;
  2. (2) whether a norm is applied by his Department in respect of the number of pupils per classroom; if so, what is the norm for (a) primary and (b) secondary schools;
  3. (3) whether the number of pupils per classroom exceeded this norm as at the above date; if so, (a) how many classrooms were affected, (b) at which schools, (c) what was the average number of pupils in these classrooms and (d) what was the reason for the excess number of pupils in these classrooms?
 The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:

My reply to Question No. 10, on 11 June 1987 refers. Figures for 1988 are not available at this stage.

 Natal/Transvaal/Cape Province: pupils attending schools 50. Mr M RAJAB

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

Whether any (a) Coloured, (b) Black and (c) White pupils attended any schools falling under his Department in (i) Natal, (ii) the Transvaal and (iii) the Cape Province in 1987; if so, how many such pupils in each case?

 The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:

Yes

  1. (a)
    1. (i) 534
    2. (ii) 605
    3. (iii) 43
  2. (b)
    1. (i) 230
    2. (ii) 35
    3. (iii) 2
  3. (c)
    1. (i) 1
    2. (ii) 5
    3. (iii) Nil.