House of Assembly: Vol7 - TUESDAY 8 MARCH 1988

TUESDAY, 8 MARCH 1988 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY

†Indicates translated version.

For oral reply :

General Affairs:

State President:

Seychelles: visited by certain person *1. Mr J H VAN DER MERWE

asked the State President†

  1. (1) Whether a certain person who is attached to the State President’s Office and particulars of whom have been furnished to the State President’s Office for the purpose of his reply, visited the Seychelles during November 1987 and/or at any other stage; if so, (a) who arranged these visits, (b) what was the nature thereof and (c) what is the name of the person concerned;
  2. (2) whether these visits took place with his (a) knowledge and (b) approval;
  3. (3) whether during these visits the person concerned was in contact with a certain person or relatives of the latter person, whose name has also been furnished to the State President’s Office; if so, (a) with whom was he in contact and (b) what was the nature of this contact;
  4. (4) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
†The STATE PRESIDENT:

(1), (2), (3) and (4)

No, not during November. The person concerned did indeed spend a private holiday at Mauritius and the Seychelles with his wife and family at his own expense during April 1987 after his wife had undergone several operations.

I do not regard it my duty to find out who he had met while on holiday.

Ministers:

Question standing over from Tuesday, 16 February 1988.

Latin: abolishment as prerequisite for law *1. Mr D J DALLING

asked the Minister of Justice:

  1. (1) Whether he is considering abolishing the study of Latin as a prerequisite for persons wishing to practise law as (a) advocates and (b) attorneys; if not, why not; if so,
  2. (2) whether any steps are to be taken in this regard; if not, why not; if so, (a) what steps, (b) by whom and (c) when?
The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:

(1) and (2) In terms of section 1 of the Admission of Advocates Amendment Act, 1987 (Act 17 of 1987), the Minister of Justice is empowered to determine a date by notice in the Gazette on which the concession granted in terms of that Act is to cease to apply. A thorough investigation has been undertaken to determine the date on which the concession will lapse. The date which is envisaged, extends as far as 1995. To me this is indicative of the complexity of the matter and I am of the opinion that legal uncertainty could result from this. Whilst the advocature requested me last year to reinstate the Latin requirement by the end of 1988, they have since then informed me that the profession will again scrutinize the matter carefully at their annual general meeting during July 1988. This profession has major interest in the matter and I do not think that it would be desirable to act before the profession’s viewpoint is known. Thereafter I shall make a decision.

Question standing over from Tuesday, 1 March 1988:

Patrick John Dooley: residence permit *32. Mr M J ELLIS

asked the Minister of Home Affairs:

  1. (1) Whether, during the past two years, his Department renewed the temporary residence permit of a certain person, whose name has been furnished to the Minister’s Department for the purpose of his reply; if so, when was (a) his initial and (b) renewed temporary residence permit issued;
  2. (2) whether his Department was informed that this person had a criminal record; if so, (a) when, (b) by whom and (c) what is the nature of this record;
  3. (3) whether, prior to renewing the temporary residence permit of this person, his Department received any representations requesting that the application for renewal be turned down; if so, (a) from whom, (b) when, (c) what reasons were given for the request and (d) what was his response thereto;
  4. (4) whether this person is still in the Republic; if not, when did he leave;
  5. (5) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
The MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS [Reply laid upon the Table with leave of House]:

(1) to (5) The hon member is referred to the annexure to this reply which contains the relevant facts in this matter.

ANNEXURE

TEMPORARY WORK PERMIT: PATRICK JOHN DOOLEY

Mr Patrick John Dooley, an Irish citizen, entered the country temporarily for holiday purposes on 18 May 1986. On 23 July 1986 he applied for a temporary work permit to take up employment as managing director at Lynton Investments (Pty) Ltd, Durban. In support of the application Lynton Investments (Pty) Ltd, in a letter dated 22 July 1986, wrote inter alia as follows:

“Mr Dooley has so impressed our Board of Directors with his able and professional approach that we have offered him the post of Managing Director and he has indicated his willingness to accept, subject to receiving the necessary permit(s). We must stress that it is vital for the commercial success of this company, and the Black housing sector in particular, for Mr Dooley to be granted the necessary permits.”

A temporary work permit, valid until 23 October 1986, was issued on 24 July 1986. On 28 November 1986 the validity of the work permit was extended to 17 February 1987, after Lynton Investments had confirmed in writing on 21 October 1986 that Mr Dooley was still in their employ in the capacity of Managing Director, and requested the Department’s assistance in arranging an extension of his temporary residence permit.

On 17 December 1986 Lynton Investments wrote as follows to the Department’s regional representative in Durban:

“We wish you to note that Mr P J Dooley has resigned from the company’s employ and with effect from that date he has relinquished his position as Managing Director of the Company.
We also record that Mr Dooley will not be paid any remuneration for the month of December 1986.”

Another letter by Lynton Investments, bearing the same date and also addressed to the regional representative concerned, reads as follows:

“We thank you for the interview granted today in regard to the above-mentioned application by P J Dooley.
Presently you have indicated that the permit has been extended to 17 February 1987, but in accordance with certain information that has been advised to the company we now feel that it is the company’s obligation to report such matters to the Department of Internal Affairs to make their enquiries (sic) to ascertain the accuracy of such information.
Presumably once the Department has these facts on hand, it can make its own assessment of the severity of these.
  1. (1)
    1. (a) We Lynton Investments do not employ P J Dooley any longer with effect 1 December 1986.
    2. (b) Lynton Investments has been subjected to harassment by P J Dooley and incorrect/deceptive facts and allegations being given to major clients about the company.
    3. (c) The company is involved in the very important area of provision for Black housing in Natal and we do not wish continual deception to interfere with the promotion and progress of the Organisation.
  2. (2) Information that has come to light, but which Lynton Investments are not in a position to obtain fully documented evidence are dealt with hereunder, but sufficient to indicate that Mr Dooley may not now be a desirable person to enter the Republic. He should not be allowed to remain here as transactions entered into by him without our knowledge would seriously damage the good name of Lynton Investments.
  3. (3) The company has now been advised of Mr Dooley’s record in England and discovered the following:
    1. (a) Mr Dooley was charged with deception of a Southern Ireland Bank in 1983, and was ordered for extradition to an airport in England by the Court to stand trial in Southern Ireland: Reported in the Press on 5/1/83 (Mr Ross) Public Prosecutor — Teeside County Court, Cleveland.
    2. (b) A private enquiry revealed Mr Dooley has a criminal record and has in fact served a goal sentence in England.
      A check of Mr Dooley’s record with the police in Middlesbrough, Cleveland, England will confirm the above.
    3. (c) Mr Dooley is not qualified as a Chartered Quantity Surveyor as he states.
When the Company applied for a temporary work permit for the above, we were completely unaware and had no knowledge of the above matters. Had we any prior information of the above we certainly would not have considered making the application without requesting your department to verify information.”

Mr M Rajab, MP for Springfield, House of Delegates, in a telex message dated 22 December 1986, informed the Department that he had been approached by Lynton Investments. He continued by conveying the same information as contained in the preceding letter of Lynton Investments, and he requested the Department to attend to the matter.

On 21 January 1987 the Department addressed a letter to Mr Dooley in which he was notified that:

  1. (i) it had been brought to the Department’s attention that he was no longer employed by Lynton Investments;
  2. (ii) the validity of his work permit was expiring on 17 February 1987;
  3. (iii) no further application for the extension of the work permit would be considered favourably;
  4. (iv) he was required to make arrangements to leave the country on or before 17 February 1987; and
  5. (v) failure to comply with the requirement might render him liable to prosecution.

On 6 February 1987 Mr Dooley reacted on that letter by submitting a telex message to the Department which reads as follows:

“A letter dated 21st January 1987 from Home Affairs — Pretoria (and referenced as above) was received by me on Wednesday 29th January 1987. I have been informed that my work permit will not be extended beyond the expiry date of 17th February 1987 and consequently I, and my family, must leave the country on, or before, the 17th February 1987.

A formal application to have the Department’s decision reviewed is being concluded by my attorneys. On the advice of W J Naude I am instructed to contact you to place the salient facts before you and these are as follows: —

  1. (1) At the request of the Directors of Lynton Investments (Pty) Limited I travelled from the UK to South Africa in May 1986 to advise them and plan a management strategy, to involve Lynton in development of housing within the Black townships of Natal.
  2. (2) After two months Lynton invited me to act as Managing Director and offered me 17½ percent of the company’s equity. I readily accepted and brought my family to South Africa with the intention of eventually seeking permanent residency.
  3. (3) My task as MD of Lynton was to obtain a “declaration of competency” from the Minister of Development Aid to enable Lynton to carry out developments within the Black townships (Proclamations 153 and 154 refer). This was obtained in July 1986, after much representation in Pretoria.
  4. (4) Development rights for 2 300 house units was also approved by the Minister of Development Aid and Lynton had a forward development programme of R100 m (one hundred million rands).
  5. (5) As a result of fundamental differences between myself and other directors of Lynton I resigned my position as MD of Lynton on 1st December 1986.
    These differences revolved around the funding partner’s insistence that the specifications and standards of the house units be reduced in order to generate more profit. As a socially conscious member of the community I could not accept that the quality of houses be sacrificed for greater profit and as a commercially minded businessman the original projected profits were sufficient.
    I had no alternative but to resign but I still retain my shareholding.
  6. (6) The value of my shareholding is currently R436 850 (based on auditors accounts) which will increase to R1 604 850 (based on projected development profits). It will be difficult, if not impossible, to manage this investment from outside of South Africa. The Government’s call for external investment in South Africa has been fully actioned by me and now I find that a Government department is preventing me from managing and capitalising upon the investment I have made in South Africa.
  7. (7) I resigned from Lynton because of my strong convictions about providing reasonable quality housing in the Black townships. These strong convictions encouraged me to establish a new housing development company of which I, and others, are funding. Banking facilities have been arranged and the company is in the process of forming a strong relationship with LTA.
    Mr Naude (a director and shareholder of the company), together with a businesman, advocate and accountant make up the management “team”.
  8. (8) The prospects for the new company are excellent and more than R1 000 m (one million rand) is being expended on land acquisition for three development projects involving +350 house units. A further R2,35 m is allocated for a development involving 750 house units.
  9. (9) Lynton’s highly motivated letter of 22nd July 1986 to the Department of Home Affairs states ‘We must stress that it is vital for the commercial success of the company, and the Black housing sector in particular, for Mr Dooley to be granted the necessary permits.’ Affidavits to this effect will be forthcoming from my fellow directors/shareholders.
    It is essential that I remain in South Africa because:
    1. (a) I will be in a position to monitor the investment value of my 17½ percent shareholding in Lynton.
    2. (b) I will be able to manage and direct the business of the new company.
    3. (c) My family (two daughters and one son) have happily settled down in South Africa. My eldest daughter is employed as equestrian manageress to a hotel in the Drakensberg.
    4. (d) My wife and I admire the discipline to be found in the education system (which is sadly lacking in the UK).
    5. (e) We have made a substantial commitment in moving to South Africa — in both human and financial terms.
    6. (f) We believe that we can benefit, in all respects, by remaining here and make a positive contribution to the country.
    7. (g) We are all very happy here.
Finally, I earnestly request that the Minister reviews the decision of the Department not to renew my permits.
I pray that the foregoing will enable you to motivate a positive review and thank you in anticipation of your efforts.”

On 10 February 1987 the Department, in a telex message, requested the South African Mission in London to check the information furnished by Lynton Investments regarding Mr Dooley’s criminal record. The Mission responded on 9 March 1987 with a telex message in which it was, inter alia, reported that it was not possible to say when details of Mr Dooley’s record would be obtained.

No further communication has been received to date. In view of the information which was obtained from other sources from time to time and referred to herein, no further enquiries were made at the South African Mission in London.

In the meantime, Mr Dooley’s attorneys in Durban, Messrs Van Onselen, Coppen and O’Connell, on behalf of Mr Dooley, made formal application for the extension of the work permit of Mr Dooley, for one year. The application dated 13 February 1987 and supported by an affidavit by Mr Dooley was lodged at the Department’s Head Office in Pretoria. In his affidavit Mr Dooley reiterated the information furnished in his telex dated 6 February 1987.

On 2 March 1987 Messrs Spoor and Fisher, attorneys in Pretoria, lodged with the Department an application by Mr Dooley for a work permit to continue employment at Sansdowne Developments (Pty) Ltd, Durban.

On 2 April 1987 Mr M Rajab, MP, on behalf of Lynton Investments, forwarded to the Department copies of documents including a “Memorandum of Conviction” dated 16 March 1987, and purported to be signed by the Clerk of the Teeside Magistrate’s Court sitting at Middlesbrough. According to this document, which bears no official marks as proof of its authenticity, Mr Dooley was arrested and ordered on 4 January 1983 to be delivered in custody to the Police force of the Republic of Ireland.

On 13 April 1987 the Department received a letter, dated 1 April 1987, from Messrs Meskin and Levy, who, on behalf of Lynton Investments; informed the Department, amongst other things, that —

  1. (i) Mr Dooley was at no time a member of the Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors;
  2. (ii) the letters in support of Mr Dooley’s employment at Lynton Investments were not written and signed by Mr J C Hart;
  3. (iii) Mr Dooley has a criminal record in the United Kingdom, which caused him to be deported from England into the custody of the Police force of the Republic of Ireland;
  4. (iv) Mr Dooley served a prison sentence in England of at least one year during the period 1964 to 1970;
  5. (v) Mr Dooley was convicted of two charges of false pretences in Ireland and sentenced to two years imprisonment suspended; and
  6. (vi) Mr Dooley, who had established his own company, Sansdowne Developments (Pty) Ltd, is not entitled to act as a company director in terms of the Companies Act.

The Department reacted to this letter by sending a telex message to Messrs Meskin and Levy on 16 April 1987 in which they were informed as follows:

“According to Dooley he owns seventeen and a half per cent (valued at R436 000) shareholding in Lynton in terms of offer of employment dated 22 July 1986. Dooley’s claim agrees with paragraph 4 of said offer of employment. Your urgent comments will be appreciated.”

On the same date Messrs Meskin and Levy responded as follows:

“Thank you for your telex of today. Our client Lynton Investments (Pty) Ltd reply as follows:
  1. (1) P J Dooley does not hold and has never held any shares in the company.
  2. (2) Mr Dooley’s claim that he holds shares in the company is untrue.
  3. (3) The letter dated 22nd July 1986 was not written by Lynton Investments: it was composed by Mr P J Dooley himself and was sent to himself. Mr J G Hart did not sign the letter as it purports to hold out.
  4. (4) Please reply per telex today who is handling the matter as our client would like to discuss it telephonically.”

On 21 April 1987 the Department made enquiries to the Registrar of Companies whether Mr Dooley, in view of the alleged criminal convictions, was entitled to act as a company director.

The Registrar of Companies informed the Department on 7 May 1987 that if the convictions of Mr Dooley could be confirmed, he would have to obtain authority from the Court to act as a director.

In an undated letter addressed to the Minister of Home Affairs, Cape Town, Lynton Investments submitted various documentation in support of its claim that a permit for temporary or permanent residence should not be granted to Mr Dooley. One of the documents submitted purports to be a certificate of conviction wherein the Registrar of the Periodical Criminal Court of Dublin certified on 7 May 1987 that Mr Dooley was found guilty on two counts of fraud. According to the certificate he was sentenced to two years imprisonment on each of the two counts, which had to be served concurrently and which was suspended for two years on condition that Mr Dooley compensated the injured parties for the loss they had suffered.

The Department notified Mr Dooley on 3 June 1987 to the effect that the exemption from the visa requirements as laid down in section 40(1)(c) of the Admission of Persons to the Republic Regulation Act, 1972 (Act 59 of 1972), which he enjoyed as a citizen of the United Kingdom, had been withdrawn, and that, should he in future arrive at a South African port of entry without a visa, he would not be permitted to enter.

On 15 June 1987 Mr Dooley was notified that his application for a work permit had been refused and that he and his family were required to leave South Africa within one month from the date of receipt of the letter. Lynton Investments was also informed of this decision. The latter was also informed that the Department was holding it responsible for any repatriation costs which the Department might incur if Mr Dooley had to be repatriated.

Lynton Investments reacted with a strong denial that it was still responsible for any repatriation costs.

On 17 June 1987 Messrs Van Onselen, Coppen and O’Connell appealed to the Minister of Home Affairs on behalf of Mr Dooley to reverse the Department’s decision. Some of the points raised in their letter, are contained in the following quotations:

“I act for Mr Dooley with regards to an array of legal matters, including an action he has launched against his former Company and employers, Lynton Investments (Pty) Ltd. In this action, my client seeks to recover some R18 300,00 in salary and other remuneration he is entitled to.
It has become quite clear to me that the dispute between Mr Dooley and Lynton Investments (Pty) Ltd goes well beyond mere litigation.
The truth of the matter is that a bitter feud has developed between Mr Dooley and his former co-Directors in Lynton. This is fuelled no doubt by the substantial progress my client has made with his new Company Sansdowne Developments (Pty) Ltd which operates in the same field as Lynton.”
“Of particular concern to your Department is the revelation that Mr Dooley has a criminal record. This was never mentioned in either Mr Dooley’s original application or in his application for an extension. The information presumably comes via Lynton’s Directors. I only became aware of the matter recently as Mr Dooley kept it a closely guarded secret.
It strikes me as hypocritical in the extreme that Lynton’s Directors can, on the one hand, support Mr Dooley’s original application for a work permit in glowing terms (witness the content of their letter of the 22 July 1986 to your Department and of the same date to Mr Dooley) when at least one of the Directors knew of Mr Dooley’s record at the time; yet when it suits them to have him removed from the Country, they unceremoniously report him as a criminal.
I am not trying to downgrade the gravity of my client’s non-disclosure, but merely point out that the people behind Lynton were as much part of the non-disclosure as Mr Dooley.
I attach hereto an Affidavit by Mr Dooley which deals fully with, inter alia, the circumstances of his conviction and the non-disclosure to your Department. I believe this helps put matters somewhat into perspective and hopefully casts matters in a different light in your eyes.
In finality, I would point out that our Country needs able men like Mr Dooley. His activities are good for the free enterprise system. He may have strayed from the path momentarily in the past, but he certainly will be of great assistance to the Country were he allowed to stay. As an excellent example of this, I would draw to your attention that in the short space of five (5) months, Mr Dooley has negotiated to conclusion a major project involving establishment of a new township of approximately 182 stands in Verulam. This was made possible by a partnership between Sansdowne Developments (Pty) Ltd as project managers and Basil Read (Pty) Ltd as contractors. Clearly Mr Dooley has an amazing ability in property development with particular relevance to mass housing schemes.”

On 9 July 1987 the Department informed its regional representative that a temporary residence permit valid till 30 September 1987 may, on application, be issued to Mr Dooley.

Subsequent representations received, were from:

  1. (i) Mr Dooley’s attorneys, who on 10 July 1987, confirmed that a civil action between Mr Dooley and Lynton Investments is pending in the Durban Local Division of the Supreme Court. The quantum in the action is, according to the attorneys, more than R½ m.
  2. (ii) Messrs Meskin and Levy, who on 23 July 1987, on behalf of Lynton Investments, expressed their client’s surprise at the granting of permission to Mr Dooley to reside in the country for a further “5 months”. The Department was also informed that their client “even went as far as to undertake without prejudice to their rights to recover the costs, to pay for Mr Dooley’s repatriation costs.” They further requested on behalf of their client to advise them as a matter of urgency the exact position with regard to Mr Dooley and in particular the reasons for the apparent change in attitude towards this particular person who has a “long” criminal record.
  3. (iii) Mr M J Ellis, MP for Durban North, who personally discussed the matter with the Director-General: Home Affairs on 5 August 1987, and who subsequently in a letter dated 8 September 1987, wrote inter alia as follows:
“To date I have not heard from your Department as to whether Mr Dooley has been successful in his attempt to obtain permanent residence or even an extension of his temporary residence permit. However, I have had information from other sources to the effect that Mr Dooley is expecting to receive a favourable and positive reply from your office in response to his various applications.
I wish to draw your attention again to his unfortunate record and the fact that he has a criminal record overseas. There is no reason whatsoever for him to be given residence — either of a permanent nature or an extension of his temporary residence status.
I would be extremely grateful to know as soon as possible what decision your department comes to with regard to Mr Dooley. If for any reason whatsoever your department does decide to give him an extended stay in South Africa, again, either of a permanent or temporary nature, I should be grateful if you would let me know on what grounds this permission was granted.
Mr Dooley has caused a number of people a great deal of embarrassment and frustration. Taking all into account, including his overseas record, he has little to offer this country — a point you yourself agreed to when I discussed the matter with you.”

In view of all the representations received both in favour of the termination of Mr Dooley’s sojourn in the country and in favour of his continued residence here, the Department, in a submission dated 8 September 1987, recommended to me that a work permit be issued to Mr Dooley to work at Sansdowne Developments (Pty) Ltd. One of the reasons advanced for the granting of the work permit, was to afford the contesting parties in this matter an opportunity to have their claims and counter claims tested in the civil action which Mr Dooley had instituted.

On 14 September 1987 I referred the matter back to the Department with the request that all documents and facts be investigated and considered again and that a further submission be made to me before I take a decision.

On 28 September 1987 the matter was once again submitted to me with the following recommendation by the Department:

“Everything taken into consideration it would appear to be fair and reasonable to, as previously recommended, issue a temporary work permit to Mr Dooley in order to take up employment with Sansdowne Developments (Pty) Ltd. His temporary residence in the Republic will enable him to finalise his civil action against Lynton Investments and in the meantime it will also give him the opportunity to clarify his directorship at Sansdowne Developments (Pty) Ltd with the court.”

I have, in terms of section 8 of the Aliens Act, 1937, and section 13 of the Admission of Persons to the Republic Regulation Act, 1972, a discretionary power to exercise with regard to the withdrawal of temporary work permits or to declare a person as an undesirable inhabitant of the Republic. In the exercising of that power in this particular instance, I have applied the audi alteram partem-rule in order to arrive at a fair and balanced decision.

Lynton Investments relied heavily on the alleged previous convictions of Mr Dooley in their efforts to have Mr Dooley’s sojourn in the RSA terminated. Mr Dooley did not deny the convictions. He in fact indicated that he had fully compensated the injured parties and he furthermore intimated that at least one of the directors of Lynton Investments was aware of these convictions.

When I exercised my discretion in this matter, I also took that information into account. However, I also had to bear in mind the following factors which weighed in favour of Mr Dooley’s prolonged residence in this country. These factors were the following —

Mr Dooley and his family would have suffered unduly if his sojourn were to be terminated summarily as demanded by Lynton Investments.
Such termination would furthermore have a serious effect on the business operations of the company established by Mr Dooley, which appears to be well needed in the area in which it is functioning.
Whilst the parties in this matter are having an opportunity to have their claims and counter claims tested in the civil action instituted in the Supreme Court, the termination of Mr Dooley’s sojourn in this country would most probably have a prejudicial effect on that action.

After careful consideration of all the relevant facts and representations, I decided to approve the issue of a work permit on the following terms as notified in the letter from the Director-General: Home Affairs to Mr Ellis MP dated 21 October 1987.

“Dear Mr Ellis
WORK PERMIT: MR P J DOOLEY
I refer to our discussions in the above regard and regret that, due to several contradicting representations received by Mr J C G Botha, Minister of Home Affairs and of Communications, a full investigation into the activities of Mr Dooley had to be conducted, and it was therefore not possible to furnish you with a reply at an earlier date.
Minister Botha now had the opportunity to study all the facts at his disposal and I wish to inform you that he has, after careful consideration, decided to approve the issue of a temporary work permit to Mr Dooley. The permit will be valid for an initial period of 12 months and on expiry thereof the Minister will, once again, take the whole matter into reconsideration.”

The Department has furnished the SA Police who is investigating this matter with all relevant information at its disposal. After completion of the Police investigation and with due regard to the outcome of possible legal steps, Mr Dooley’s position will be reconsidered.

New Questions:

Tresspass: Blacks arrested *1. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

How many Black persons were arrested by the South African Police for trespass in the PWV area of the Transvaal from 1 January 1987 up to the latest specified date for which information is available?

†The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

The South African Police keeps statistics only with regard to the total number of people prosecuted for trespassing. These statistics do not distinguish between the different races and also do not indicate whether the persons were arrested, summonsed or cautioned to appear in court.

To gather information of this nature for the PWV area will be a voluminous and timeconsuming task. Therefore, I do not consider it practically feasible to furnish the information.

Curfew regulations: persons arrested *2. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

How many persons in the Republic were arrested in 1987 for offences in terms of curfew regulations?

The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

None.

All measures that controlled movement of people in the Republic, were repealed. I also refer the hon member to my reply to written question No 225 of 23 February 1987 (Hansard col 321).

Internal Security Act: females detained *3. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Justice:

How many females (a) were detained in 1987, and (b) were being detained as at the latest specified date for which information is available, in terms of section 31 of the Internal Security Act, No 74 of 1982?

†The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:
  1. (a) 12.
  2. (b) One on 29 February 1988.
Education: privitization *4. Mr A GERBER

asked the Minister in the State President’s Office entrusted with Administration and Broadcasting Services:†

  1. (1) Whether consideration is being given to privatizing facets of the provision of education in the Republic; if not, why not; if so, (a) what facets and (b) when are these facets expected to be privatized;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
†The MINISTER IN THE STATE PRESIDENT’S OFFICE ENTRUSTED WITH ADMINISTRATION AND BROADCASTING SERVICES:
  1. (1) Privatization possibilities can only be determined after an investigation in this regard had been undertaken. No decision to undertake such an investigation has been taken.
    1. (a) and (b) Fall away.
  2. (2) No.
Provision of education at State expense *5. Mr A GERBER

asked the Minister of National Education:!

Whether consideration is being given to providing education in the Republic at State expense up to a certain level only; if so, (a) up to what level and (b) when is this change expected to come into operation?

The MINISTER OF BUDGET AND WELFARE (for the Minister of National Education):

No, the State will continue to contribute to all levels of education, excluding education provided by certain private institutions.

Area between Marikana/Bleskop mine: Black town *6. Mr A GERBER

asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:!

Whether it is proposed to establish a Black town in the area between Marikana and the Bleskop mine; if so, (a) when and (b) for what reasons?

†The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:

No.

(a) and (b) fall away.

Telephone subscribers: proof of being overcharged *7. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Communications:

Whether telephone subscribers complaining to his Department of having been overcharged for services rendered, are required to prove that they have been overcharged; if so, (a) why and (b) what procedure does his Department follow to verify its own charges?

†The MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS:

No.

When the number of call units which appears on a telephone account is placed under enquiry, it is verified whether the meter reading has been correctly entered on the relative account. If it is found to be in order but the debit is not in accordance with the subscriber’s average call rate, a technical investigation is undertaken into the functioning of the meter, the line and associated equipment. Where it is justified, equipment which functions independently of the client’s meter is also used to verify the accuracy of the meter. If doubt exists as to the correctness of the number of call units, the client is normally given the benefit of the doubt.

Foreign nationals: identity documents *8. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Home Affairs:

What precautions are taken by his Department to ensure that foreign nationals are not issued with South African identity documents?

The MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS:

In the laws administered by my department, inter alia, the Aliens Act, 1937 (Act 1 of 1937) and the Identification Act, 1986 (Act 72 of 1986), the term foreign national is not used. If by “foreign national” is meant “alien” as defined in the Aliens Act, 1937,1 wish to refer the hon member to sections 4 and 8 of the Identification Act, 1986, which inter alia govern the issuing of identity documents to aliens.

Section 8 of the Identitication Act, 1986, requires certain personal particulars of applicants to be included in identity documents. Details of personal particulars furnished by the applicants are carefully scrutinised for authenticity and verified against Departmental records in order to prevent the issuing of documents to aliens not entitled thereto.

Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS:

Mr Speaker, arising out of the reply of the hon the Minister, can he tell us what happens in a situation in which an orphan applies for an identity document and states that his previous identity document has been misplaced? How does his department then establish the origin of the person concerned?

The MINISTER:

Mr Speaker, every case is dealt with in the light of its particular circumstances. I suggest that the hon member discuss this issue when the Home Affairs Vote is under consideration.

Whites/Blacks: conditions for citizenship *9. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Home Affairs:

  1. (1) Whether the conditions under which citizenship in the Republic of South Africa is granted to Whites and Blacks are the same; if not, what are the points of difference;
  2. (2) what conditions apply equally to Whites and Blacks?
†The MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS:

(1) and (2) South African citizenship is regulated by three different Acts, namely:

the South African Citizenship Act, 1949 (Act 44 of 1949);

the Restoration of South African Citizenship Act, 1986 (Act 73 of 1986); and

the National States Citizenship Act, 1970 (Act 26 of 1970).

— The conditions of the South African Citizenship Act, 1949, apply equally to Black and White.

— The Restoration of South African Citizenship Act, 1986, and The National States Citizenship Act, 1970, apply to Blacks only.

Mmamatsuwe, Bophuthatswana: financing of power station *10. Mr C W EGLIN

asked the Minister of Foreign Affairs:

  1. (1) Whether any funds appropriated by Parliament have been used to help to finance a power station at Mmamatsuwe in Bophuthatswana; if so, (a) what total amount, (b) when was it made available for this purpose, (c) on what basis was this money so made available and (d) who took the decision in this regard;
  2. (2) whether any Government Department or statutory body has provided any guarantee for any loan by the Government of Bophuthatswana in connection with this power station; if so, (a) when, (b) what is the amount of the loan guaranteed and (c) what are the terms of the guarantee?
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS:

(1) and (2) No.

Power station at Mmamatsuwe, Bophuthatswana: link to Eskom power grid *11. Mr C W EGLIN

asked the Minister of Economic Affairs and Technology:

Whether provision has been made for a power station at Mmamatsuwe in Bophuthatswana to be linked to the Eskom power grid; if so, (a) when is this linking due to take place and (b) how much electric power is this power station due to feed into the grid?

†The MINISTER OF ECONOMIC AFFAIRS AND TECHNOLOGY:

No.

(a) and (b) fall away.

SATS: licence to act as clearing/forwarding agent *12. Mr D J N MALCOMESS

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

  1. (1) Whether the South African Transport Services recently applied for a licence to act as a clearing and forwarding agent; if so, when;
  2. (2) whether this licence has been granted; if so, when;
  3. (3) whether the Transport Services intend to operate as a clearing and forwarding agent; if so why?
The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:
  1. (1) Yes, 8 January 1988.
  2. (2) No, the application has been withdrawn.
  3. (3) No.
Mr D J N MALCOMESS:

Mr Speaker, arising out of the hon the Minister’s reply, does he not believe that the original application demonstrated in the SATS a state of mind opposed to privatisation, which is extremely worrying and is his direct concern?

The MINISTER:

Mr Speaker, the final results are the indication.

Passenger coaches/trains: reservation for Whites/ non-Whites *13. Mr D S PIENAAR

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:†

  1. (1) Whether it is the policy of the South African Transport Services to reserve passenger (a) coaches and (b) trains for Whites and non-Whites, respectively; if so,
  2. (2) whether it is also the policy to make (a) passenger coaches and (b) compartments available for use by all population groups; if so, (i) which and (ii) how many compartments in such a passenger coach may be used by all population groups; if not,
  3. (3) whether the Transport Services are considering making passenger coaches and compartments available in this way; if so, (a) when is it expected to be done and (b) why?
†The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) Yes, in the case of Whites.
    2. (b) No.
  2. (2) (a) and (b) Yes.
    1. (i) First, second and third class.
    2. (ii) All compartments.
  3. (3) It is already the practice.
    1. (a) and (b) Fall away.
Passenger trains: opening to all population groups *14. Mr D S PIENAAR

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:!

  1. (1) Whether consideration is being given to opening passenger trains or categories of passenger trains throughout the country to all population groups; if not, why not; if so,
  2. (2) whether a decision has been arrived at in this connection; if so, what is the purport of the decision; if not, (a) why not and (b) when is it expected that a decision will be taken about this matter?
The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:
  1. (1) and (2) The utilization of amenities by all population groups is being addressed in the Report of the President’s Council on the Report of the Technical Committee, 1983, and Related Matters which has already been Tabled.
    The Government will take a stand in this matter after all the implications have been considered.
Pamphlets dropped from helicopter: pilot identified *15. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether, with reference to his reply to Question No 6 on 16 February 1988, the Police have as yet identified the pilot of the helicopter which dropped certain pamphlets on 23 May 1987; if not, why not; if so, what is the name of this pilot;
  2. (2) whether any charges are being or have been investigated against this pilot; if not, why not; if so, what charges;
  3. (3) whether any action has been taken against this pilot; if not, why not; if so, what action;
  4. (4) whether this pilot has been questioned about the persons responsible for producing and distributing these pamphlets; if not, why not; if so, (a) who was responsible for producing and distributing these pamphlets and (b) what action has been taken against them?
†The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) No. I refer the hon member to my reply in paragraph (3) of oral question No 6 on 16 February 1988.
  2. (2) to (4) Fall away.
Mr D J N MALCOMESS:

Mr Speaker, arising out of the hon the Minister’s reply, is it not compulsory for pilots intending to fly in an area such as Cape Town to file a flight plan which includes the pilot’s name? If that is so, can the hon the Minister explain why the police have not been able to trace the pilot of the aircraft concerned.

The MINISTER:

Mr Speaker, I refer the hon member to my reply to Question No 6 on 16 February 1988. [Interjections.]

Certain person: known to South African embassies/consulates in Europe *16. Mr R R HULLEY

asked the Minister of Foreign Affairs:

  1. (1) Whether a certain person, whose name has been furnished to the Minister’s Department for the purpose of his reply, is known to any South African embassies or consulates in Europe; if so, (a) to which embassies or consulates and (b) what is the name of this person;
  2. (2) whether he will furnish information on whether any South African citizen made enquiries about this person from or via any such embassies or consulates; if not, why not; if so, (a) what was the nature of these enquiries and (b) which embassies or consulates were involved;
  3. (3) whether any information was furnished in response to these enquiries; if so, (a) to whom and (b) what was the nature of the information furnished;
  4. (4) whether any travel and/or entry documents were provided to the person referred to in paragraph (1) of this question; if so, (a) what was the nature of these documents, (b)(i) on what dates and (ii) to whom were they issued and (c) in what manner were these documents applied for?
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:

In the light of the reply given to question No 27 of 1 March 1988 it would be inappropriate to comment on this matter at this stage.

Certain person permitted to enter RSA *17. Mr R R HULLEY

asked the Minister of Home Affairs:

  1. (1)
    1. (a)
      1. (i) On what dates, (ii) at what points of entry and (iii) on production of what travel documents was a certain person, whose name has been furnished to the Minister’s Department for the purpose of his reply, permitted to enter South Africa and (b) what is the name of this person;
  2. (2) in terms of what authority did this person (a) take up residence and (b) take up employment and/or engage in business activities in South Africa;
  3. (3) whether this person has applied to his Department to change his name; if so, (a) when and (b) with what result?
†The MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS:
  1. (1) and (2) The hon member is referred to my reply to oral question No 25 of 1 March 1988.1 have nothing to add to that reply at this stage.
  2. (3) No.
    1. (a) and (b) Fall away.
SAA manager in Rome *18. Mr D J N MALCOMESS

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

  1. (1)
    1. (a) What are the qualifications of the present South African Airways manager in Rome, (b) how long had this person been employed in the Airways prior to his appointment as manager in Rome and (c) who was responsible for appointing him to this position;
  2. (2) whether the said manager had any previous experience with any other airlines; if so, with which airlines; if not, what previous experience did he have?
The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) He is fluent in Italian and has extensive marketing and sales knowledge of the South African and international tourism industry.
    2. (b) He was not previously employed by S.A. Airways.
    3. (c) The Deputy General Manager (Airways).
  2. (2) No. He has wide-ranging experience in the travel industry on account of his previous position as International Marketing Director of Southern Sun/Sun International Hotels. During this period he specifically gained experience in the development of tourism to South Africa. He has been in the travel-related field for at least 15 years.
Patrick John Dooley: registration of Sansdowne Developments (Pty) Ltd as a company *19. Mr M J ELLIS

asked the Minister of Economic Affairs and Technology:

  1. (1) Whether persons who have a criminal record are precluded from registering companies in South Africa; if so, (a) in terms of what statutory provisions and (b) what is the nature of the restrictions in this regard;
  2. (2) whether a certain person, whose name has been furnished to the Minister’s Department for the purpose of his reply, registered a company in South Africa; if so, (a) what are the relevant details and (b) what is the name of this person;
  3. (3) whether this person informed officials of his Department that he had a criminal record; if so, (a) what was the nature of that record and (b) what action was taken by his Department in respect of the company registered by him; if not,
  4. (4) whether his Department subsequently learned that this person had a criminal record; if so, (a) when and (b) what action was taken as a result?
†The DEPUTY MINISTER OF ECONOMIC AFFAIRS AND TECHNOLOGY (Dr T G Alant) :
  1. (1) No. Section 218(1)(d)(iii) of the Companies Act, 1973, however, provides that any person who has at any time been convicted (whether in the Republic or elsewhere) of theft, fraud, forgery or uttering a forged document, perjury, an offence under the Prevention of Corruption Act, 1958 (Act No 6 of 1958), or any offence involving dishonesty or in connection with the promotion, formation or management of a company, and has been sentenced therefor to imprisonment without the option of a fine or to a fine exceeding one hundred rand shall be disqualified from being appointed or acting as a director of a company unless he has obtained the authority of the Supreme Court.
    1. (a) and (b) Fall away.
  2. (2) Yes.
    1. (a) The company Sansdowne Developments (Pty) Ltd was incorporated on 18 February 1987.
    2. (b) Patrick John Dooley.
  3. (3) No.
    1. (a) and (b) Fall away.
  4. (4) Yes.
    1. (a) The Department of Home Affairs informed the Registrar of Companies on 21 April 1987 that Mr Dooley allegedly had been convicted of certain crimes in Ireland and sentenced to two years’ imprisonment which was, however, suspended and enquired whether Mr Dooley was entitled to serve as director of a company.
    2. (b) The Registrar of Companies informed the Department of Home Affairs that, if the convictions could be confirmed, Mr Dooley would have to obtain authority from the Supreme Court to act as a director. The previous convictions, if proved, would automatically disqualify him as director of a company. Lynton Investments (Pty) Ltd and Sansdowne Developments (Pty) Ltd of which Mr Dooley was, according to the records of the Registrar of Companies, a director were also informed accordingly. Lynton Investments (Pty) Ltd informed the Registrar of Companies that Mr Dooley had resigned as a director of that company on 1 December 1986. Mr Dooley, through his legal representatives, reacted by taking the view that, as his sentence had been suspended, he was not disqualified. The matter was then referred to the State Law Advisers and they supported the view that Mr Dooley was in fact disqualified. Mr Dooley’s legal representatives were informed accordingly and they were requested to inform the Registrar as to what steps they planned to take in this regard. Further developments are being awaited.
Purchase of pensionable service from 50 to 18 years *20. Mr D J N MALCOMESS

asked the Minister of National Health and Population Development:

What total amount is a public servant who earns R48 000 per annum and is 50 years of age, required to pay in order to purchase pensionable service from the age of 50 to the age of 18?

The MINISTER OF NATIONAL HEALTH AND POPULATION DEVELOPMENT:

R391 680,00.

Paxton Prison, Witbank: hunger strike *21. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Justice:

  1. (1) Whether any detainees held in the Paxton Prison in Witbank went on a hunger strike in 1988; if so, (a) on what date did the hunger strike begin, (b) how many detainees were involved, (c) in terms of what statutory provision was each being detained, (d) what reasons did the detainees give for going on a hunger strike, (e) what action was taken by the prison authorities as a result of the strike and (f) what was the result of this action;
  2. (2) whether any of these detainees were transferred to another prison or police cells; if so, (a) when, (b) where were they transferred and (c) why;
  3. (3) whether he or any officials attached to his Department received any representations from or in connection with these detainees; if so, (a) from whom, (b) when and (c) what was the (i) nature of the representations and (ii) response thereto;
  4. (4) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
The MINISTER OF JUSTICE [Reply laid upon the Table with leave of House]:

Before replying to the question I wish to point out that the name “Paxton Prison” referred to in the hon member’s question, is not correct. It is probably a reference to the Witbank Prison. Please also note that the police referred to in this reply is not a reference to the South African Police, but to the KwaNdebele Police. It is common knowledge that the emergency regulations are also valid in this self-governing national state. The prison function has however to date not yet been transferred to the relevant Government, and the South African Prisons Service is therefore responsible for that function.

(1) (a) and (b)
the number of detainees mentioned below have refused meals during the meal times as indicated:

MEAL TIMES

NUMBER OF DETAINEES

Breakfast 29 January 1988

21

Lunch 29 January 1988

21

Dinner 29 January 1988

21

Breakfast 30 January 1988

21

Lunch 30 January 1988

21

Dinner 30 January 1988

21

Breakfast 31 January 1988

25

Lunch 31 January 1988

25

Dinner 31 January 1988

25

Breakfast 1 February 1988

25

Lunch 1 February 1988

25

Dinner 1 February 1988

25

On 1 February 1988 at about 17h00 the 25 detainees were fetched by the KwaNdebele Police. It is not known to the South African Prisons Service whether they took the meals served to them during the period they were not in the Witbank Prison.

On 5 February 1988 at about 17h30, the 25 persons were again admitted to the Witbank Prison.

Breakfast 6 February 1988

23

Lunch 6 February 1988

23

Dinner 6 February 1988

23

Breakfast 7 February 1988

23

Lunch 7 February 1988

23

Dinner 7 February 1988

23

Breakfast 8 February 1988

23

Lunch 8 February 1988

23

Dinner 8 February 1988

23

On 9 February 1988 five of the detainees were fetched by the KwaNdebele Police. To date they have not been re-admitted to Witbank Prison.

Breakfast 9 February 1988

18

Lunch 9 February 1988

18

Dinner 9 February 1988

18

Breakfast 10 February 1988

18

Lunch 10 February 1988

18

Dinner 10 February 1988

18

Breakfast 11 February 1988

5

Lunch 11 February 1988

5

Dinner 11 February 1988

5

Breakfast 12 February 1988

1

Lunch 12 February 1988

1

Dinner 12 February 1988

1

Edibles which were in the detainees’ possession during this period, were not taken from them.

  1. (c) Regulation 3(1) of the Regulations promulgated in terms of the Public Safety Act, 1953 (Act No 3 of 1953), by Proclamation R96 of 11J une 1987.
  2. (d) The detainees did not state the reason for their actions to the Head of the Prison. A request was however submitted to the Head of the Prison on 28 January 1988 that the Police should be requested to visit them in the Witbank Prison. This request was conveyed as requested and a police officer from KwaNdebele visited the detainees on 29 January 1988 and 9 February 1988.
  3. (e) In cases where a detainee or any other prisoner indicates his refusal to eat or when the staff notice that food has not been taken during successive meal times, the Heads of Prisons consistently act in accordance with internationally accepted practices. Standard procedure includes the following:
    — Continued serving of the prescribed balanced diet at every meal time.
    — Participants are cautioned regularly of the disadvantageous effects of such actions on their health.
    — Medical treatment is available on a continuous basis.
    — Complaints and requests are formally registered on a daily basis and all complaints, requests, causes or imagined reasons for the hunger strike, if any, are thoroughly investigated, attended to and resolved within reasonable limits.
    The persons involved in this case were treated in the same professional manner.
  4. (f) The steps referred to are not aimed at any other results than to act in line with normal procedures as are applicable in such cases and also to place on record that such steps have been taken.
  1. (2) Yes.
    1. (a) and (b)
      The KwaNdebele Police fetched and returned the detainees on the dates as set out at (1) above. This matter does not fall within the ambit of the South African Prisons Services’ activities and information regarding the place of detention while in the care of the KwaNdebele Police are therefore not known to the SA Prisons Service.
    2. (c) According to the orders shown to the Head of the Prison by the KwaNdebele Police, they were fetched for further interrogation.
  2. (3) No, not as far as could be ascertained,
    1. (a), (b) and (c)(i) and (ii) fall away.
  3. (4) No.
Natal/KwaZulu: finalization of consolidation proposals *22. Mr R W HARDINGHAM

asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:

Whether the consolidation proposals for Natal/KwaZulu have been finalized; if not, (a) why not and (b) when is it anticipated that they will be finalized; if so, when will these proposals be made public?

The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:

No.

  1. (a) The Cabinet is considering an interim report at present and on receipt of the final report, it will be submitted for discussion and consideration.
  2. (b) As soon as possible.
Farms in East Griqualand earmarked for acquisition by Department *23. Mr R W HARDINGHAM

asked the Minister of Environment Affairs:

  1. (1) Whether certain farms situated on the slopes of the Swartberg in East Griqualand were earmarked for acquisition by his Department in or about 1981; if so,
  2. (2) whether his Department intends to proceed with the acquisition of these farms; if so, when is it envisaged that payment will be made to the farmers concerned; if not, why not?
†The MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT AFFAIRS:
  1. (1) No, however in 1977 an area known as the Swartberg Highland Farms was identified for possible purchase as mountain catchment area.
  2. (2) Yes, but on account of a lack of funds no indication can be given at this stage when the acquisition will take place and when payment will be made to the farmers concerned.

The remainder of the question falls away.

Mr R W HARDINGHAM:

Mr Speaker, arising out of the reply of the hon the Minister, is he aware of the predicament and the invidious position in which the owners of those farms now find themselves by virtue of the fact that they are unable to sell those farms to any other people?

Certain person: in possession of fire-arms *24. Mr J H VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Law and Ordent

  1. (1) Whether a certain person, whose name has been furnished to the South African Police for the purpose of the Minister’s reply, is in possession of fire-arms; if so, (a) what fire-arms and (b) what is the name of this person;
  2. (2) whether licences for the legal possession of these fire-arms have been issued to the person concerned; if not, what steps have been or are being taken against him in this connection; if so, when were these licences issued;
  3. (3) whether this person possessed any firearms illegally at any stage ; if so, what steps are being or have been taken against him?
The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) Yes.
    1. (a) I wish to point out to the hon member that the possession of fire-arms by a person, is a personal matter which the South African Police controls on a confidential basis by means of the issuing or refusal of licences.
    2. (b) The name furnished by the hon member.
  2. (2) and (3) In view of paragraph (1) above I do not consider it advisable to reveal the information. However, I am prepared to discuss the circumstances relating to the particular case with the hon member on a personal and confidential basis.
6 May 1987: polling stations closed *25. Mr K M ANDREW

asked the Minister of Home Affairs:

  1. (1) Whether any polling stations were closed for any period during polling hours on 6 May 1987 as a result of (a) bomb scares, (b) other security considerations and (c) other specified causes; if so, (i) which polling stations, (ii) who made the decision to close these polling stations, (iii) what was the effect of the closure, and (iv) what security arrangements were made in respect of (aa) ballot papers and (bb) ballot boxes during such closure, in each case;
  2. (2) whether any bombs or other explosive devices were found; if so, at which polling stations; if not,
  3. (3) whether investigations revealed any other justifiable reasons for closing these polling stations; if so, what reasons in each case?
†The MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) Yes.
      1. (i) Electoral Division of Pietermaritzburg South, polling station at Pelham Primary School.
      2. (ii) Returning officer.
      3. (iii) Closure of polling station for a period of approximately 30 minutes.
      4. (iv) (aa) and (bb) Guarded by returning officer, presiding officer and police officers.
    2. (b) No.
    3. (c) No.
  2. (2) No.
  3. (3) No.
Employment of aliens illegally in Republic: persons convicted *26. Mr K M ANDREW

asked the Minister of Justice:

Whether any persons have been convicted since 1 January 1987 of employing aliens who are in the Republic illegally; if so, how many as at the latest specified date for which information is available?

†The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:

Yes—32 persons for the period 1 January 1987 until 31 January 1988.

Cape Peninsula: housing units for Blacks *27. Mr K M ANDREW

asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:

(a) How many housing units for Black occupation were built in the Cape Peninsula in 1987 and (b) what is the number to be built in this area in 1988?

†The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:
  1. (a) 632
  2. (b) A specific figure cannot be given because of the involvement of various utility companies, the private sector and self-help schemes in numerous building programmes of which particulars are not readily available.
Mr K M ANDREW:

Mr Speaker, arising from the reply of the hon the Minister, I should like to ask him whether he does not think, in view of the importance of housing and the problems related to it, that his department should be monitoring it closely, even where the private sector is involved?

The MINISTER:

Mr Speaker, the answer is yes.

Mamelodi police station: charge against certain person *28. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether a charge was laid at the Mamelodi police station on or about 29 January 1988 against a certain person, whose name has been furnished to the South African Police for the purpose of the Minister’s reply; if so, (a) what was the nature of the charge and (b) what is the name of this person;
  2. (2) whether this charge has been investigated; if not, why not; if so, (a) by whom and (b) with what result;
  3. (3) whether this person has been arrested; if not, why not; if so, when;
  4. (4) whether any further complaints or charges have been laid against this person; if so, (a) when and (b) what action was taken as a result;
  5. (5) whether the Police at Mamelodi have received any enquiries concerning this case; if so, (a) on what dates, (b) from whom and (c) what was the response?
The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) Yes.
    1. (a) That he assaulted a person with the intent to do grievous bodily harm;
    2. (b) the name which was furnished by the hon member.
  2. (2) and (3) Yes.
    A member of the South African Police investigated the case and arrested the accused on 7 February 1988. He was released in terms of section 72(1)(a) of the Criminal Procedure Act, 1977 (Act 51 of 1977), and cautioned to appear in court on 24 February 1988. His trial took place on that date and he was convicted. He will be sentenced on 25 March 1988.
  3. (4) No.
    1. (a) and (b) Fall away.
  4. (5) No.
    1. (a) to (c) Fall away.
Solvent abuse/glue sniffing *29. Mr R M BURROWS

asked the Minister of National Health and Population Development:

  1. (1) Whether he or his Department is taking any action in regard to solvent abuse or glue sniffing; if not, (a) why not and (b) what bodies are responsible for taking action in this regard; if so, what action has been taken or is envisaged;
  2. (2) whether this matter has been discussed with any organizations or bodies; if so, (a) with what organizations or bodies and (b) when;
  3. (3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
†The MINISTER OF NATIONAL HEALTH AND POPULATION DEVELOPMENT:
  1. (1) Yes;
    1. (a) Falls away.
    2. (b) I referred the tragic problem of solvent abuse and glue sniffing to the National Advisory Board on Rehabilitation Matters for inclusion in the National Plan to Prevent and Combat Alcohol and Drug Abuse.
  2. (2) (a) and (b) This matter is placed on the agenda of the National Advisory Board on Rehabilitation Matters as well as the subcommittee responsible for the implementation of the National Plan. Other organizations concerned such as the South African National Council for Alcoholism, are also represented on the National Advisory Board on Rehabilitation Matters and the mentioned subcommittee thereof.
  3. (3) No.
Mr R M BURROWS:

Mr Speaker, arising from the hon the Minister’s reply, may I ask him whether at this stage he intends to make any legislative changes regarding the use or control of solvents?

The MINISTER:

Mr Speaker, it depends on how effectively the national plan is going to be implemented this year. We will re-evaluate the situation at the end of the year, and following the re-evaluation, consider further steps.

Individual taxpayers: deduction of moneys for educational purposes *30. Mr R M BURROWS

asked the Minister of Finance:

  1. (1) Whether he or his Department has initiated investigations into the deductibility of moneys of individual taxpayers for educational purposes at school or college level; if not, why not; if so, (a) what matters are being investigated and (b) by what body are they being investigated;
  2. (2) whether representations on this matter have been called for; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant details;
  3. (3) whether the tax rebate granted for payments by parents in respect of physically disabled children has been altered in the last five tax years; if not, why not; if so,
  4. (4) whether the rebate amount has kept pace with the increase in the educational and medical needs of the physically disabled; if not, why not;
  5. (5) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF FINANCE (Mr K D Durr):
  1. (1) Neither I nor my Department have initiated any investigation into the deductibility of expenditure incurred by taxpayers for educational purposes. Two fundamental principles of the South African income tax system are that only expenditure incurred in the production of income may generally be allowed as a deduction and domestic or private expenses are prohibited as a deduction. To deviate from these sound basic principles would only result in numerous other representations being made for similar concessions which would ultimately lead to the serious erosion of the tax base. A further drawback of such a tax expenditure is that it is of little or no benefit to taxpayers in the lower-income groups whose tax saving would be minimal. It should, however, be noted that section 18A of the Income Tax Act does already provide for the deduction of donations, within specified limits, to amongst others, universities, colleges and certain special education funds established for schools providing secondary education beyond the sixth standard.
  2. (2) The Commission of Inquiry into the Tax Structure of the Republic of South Africa was available to receive any representations regarding tax-related matters.
  3. (3) The deduction of expenditure incurred by physically disabled persons has been increased once during the last five years, in 1984 when the maximum deduction was increased from R2 400 to R3 000, an increase of 25%.
  4. (4) Although the increase has not kept pace with inflation over the last five years the present maximum deduction is generally sufficient to allow the majority of taxpayers to claim the full cost of any physical disability expenditure they may incur each year. Further, during the period 1980 to 1988 the maximum deduction has increased from R600 to R3 000, an increase of 500% which is far in excess of the approximately 121% inflation rate over the same period.
  5. (5) It is not considered necessary to issue a statement on the matter.
Mr R M BURROWS:

Mr Speaker, arising from the hon the Deputy Minister’s reply, can he tell us whether representations have been received as to the deductibility of parents’ payments for children in the primary standards?

The DEPUTY MINISTER:

Mr Speaker, there have been representations. These representations are received from time to time. I want to say to the hon member he must be a little patient. He will know that we shall be dealing with the White Paper on the Margo Commission which will be tabled in a few days’ time. Then we will have all the time in the world to discuss it.

Mr K M ANDREW:

Mr Speaker, further arising from the hon the Deputy Minister’s reply, I would like to ask him if he would not accept that, unlike other tax deductions, the expenditure on private school education is a direct saving for the Exchequer in terms of their not having to provide that schooling themselves. So the same principle does not apply to other types of deductions.

*31. Mr R M BURROWS

— National Education.

[Reply standing over.]

Own Affairs:

Teachers’ college at Paarl/Oudtshoorn: take over of facilities after closure *1. Mr A GERBER

asked the Minister of Education and Culture.t

Whether his Department has made a decision about the organizations to which the facilities of the teachers’ colleges at Paarl and Oudtshoorn will be made available after their closure; if not, (a) why not and (b) what organizations are being considered in this connection, in each case?

The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:

Yes, the Paarl Teachers’ College will be used by the South African Police, the Paarl Technical College and the Paarl Commercial High School. The Oudtshoorn Teachers’ College will be taken over by the South African Defence Force.

Director of Education, Transvaal: closed meetings of school principals/teachers arranged/ addressed *2. Mr A GERBER

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:†

  1. (1) Whether the Director of Education in the Transvaal recently arranged and addressed closed meetings of school principals and/or teachers; if so, (a) what is the purpose of these meetings and (b)(i) where and (ii) when did or will the meetings take place;
  2. (2) whether such meetings (a) are held on his or his Department’s request and/or (b) are initiated by him or his Department;
  3. (3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
†The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (1) Yes,
    1. (a) to discuss various matters of interest to education,

(b) (i)

and

(ii)

Witbank

Ermelo

Nelspruit

21 January

Klerksdorp

Lichtenburg

Rustenburg

3 February

Krugersdorp

Alberton

Boksburg

4 February

Pretoria

Johannesburg

5 February

Nylstroom

Pietersburg;

8 February

  1. (2)
    1. (a) no, not at my request. The Director of Education in Transvaal is a very senior official in my Department and is responsible for administering teaching policy in the TED. He is therefore fully entitled to have professional discussions of this kind should he deem them necessary,
    2. (b) it was initiated by the TED which is part of my Department;
  2. (3) no.
Teachers: candidates in municipal elections *3. Mr D J DALLING

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

  1. (1) Whether teachers employed by his Department are entitled to offer themselves as candidates in municipal elections; if not, why not; if so,
  2. (2) whether any conditions apply to teachers offering themselves as such candidates; if so, what conditions?
The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (1) Yes, with the necessary approval;
  2. (2) teachers may offer themselves as candidates in the coming municipal elections. The existing provincial ordinances and regulations must be taken into consideration by them. In terms of the ordinances and regulations a teacher may not
    1. (a) allow his membership of such a body to intervene with his task as a teacher;
    2. (b) express himself in public on any matter that can further or prejudice the interests of a political party or cause embarrassment to the Department;
    3. (c) disregard the instructions regarding paid employment outside official hours.

In view of the particular role that party politics will play in the coming municipal elections and their activities thereafter, I call on teachers to carefully note these conditions before they offer themselves as candidates. The conditions will be strictly applied.

Mr D J DALLING:

Mr Speaker, arising out of the hon the Minister’s reply and in particular the reference he made to a teacher making any statement in support of any political party, I want to ask him if this means that no teacher can stand in the coming municipal elections under the banner of a political party.

†The MINISTER:

Mr Speaker, there is no provision in that regard that would prevent a teacher from standing under the banner of any political party or as an independent, but his conduct while he is standing and thereafter is very clearly laid down by ordinance and that will be very strictly applied.

Mr D J DALLING:

Mr Speaker, further arising out of the hon the Minister’s reply, I would just like the hon the Minister to explain how someone can stand under the banner of a political party without promoting the stance of this political party in an election campaign.

†The MINISTER:

Mr Speaker, I do not consider it my duty to spell that out. Any person who wants to stand for election as a member must exercise that judgement for himself.

†Dr W J SNYMAN:

Mr Speaker, further arising out of the hon the Minister’s reply, does that therefore also mean that if a teacher is elected to a local council he may not in public take part in a debate on a political issue or adopt a standpoint on it?

†The MINISTER:

Mr Speaker, I want to ask the hon member to have a good look at my reply as well as at the provisions of the ordinances. From that it is clear that every person who is elected to the town council and is a teacher personally has the responsibility to act in such a manner that he does not contravene the provisions of the ordinances.

Mr R M BURROWS:

Mr Speaker, further arising out of the reply of the hon the Minister, may I ask him whether he intends in the near future to amend the ordinances and/or legislation in any way to further restrict the political rights of teachers?

†The MINISTER:

Mr Speaker, that is not under consideration at present.

†Mr F J LE ROUX:

Mr Speaker, further arising out of the hon the Minister’s reply, I should just like to know from him whether those conditions he has yet mentioned also apply to teachers who are members of the NP and are standing as candidates in the municipal elections. [Interjections.]

†The MINISTER:

Mr Speaker, naturally they apply to any teacher. I want to charge the hon member that hon members of the Official Opposition do not let an opportunity slip to play this kind of petty politics. [Interjections.]

†Mr A GERBER:

Mr Speaker …

†Mr SPEAKER:

Order! Last year I laid down that five additional questions is the maximum that will be allowed.

Technikon councils: representation of academic staff/student bodies *4. Mr M J ELLIS

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

  1. (1) Whether (a) members of the academic staff and (b) student bodies of technikons have representation on technikon councils; if not, why not; if so,
  2. (2) whether any technikons do not have such representation; if so, (a) which technikons in each case and (b) why?
†The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (1) (a) and (b) No, councils of technikons are constituted under section 8(1) of the Technikons (National Education) Act, 1967 (Act 40 of 1967), which does not provide for members of the academic staff and student bodies to be represented on these councils;
  2. (2) (a) and (b) fall away.
Admission of Yolisha Ntshinga to Glen High School *5. Mr D S PIENAAR

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:†

  1. (1) Whether application has been made to the Transvaal Education Department for the admission of a certain Black pupil, particulars about whom have been furnished to the Minister’s Department for the purpose of his reply, to a school under the control of that department; if so, (a) when and (b) what is the name of the (i) pupil and (ii) school concerned;
  2. (2) whether the application was refused; if so, why; if not, (a) by whom was the application approved and (b) from what date has this pupil been attending the school concerned;
  3. (3) whether any restrictions have been placed on the participation of this pupil in school activities; if so, what restrictions?
The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (1) Yes,
    1. (a) 19 January 1988,
    2. (b)
      1. (i) Yolisha Ntshinga, daughter of an embassy official of Transkei,
      2. (ii) the Glen High School;
  2. (2) no,
    1. (a) the Director of the Transvaal Education Department,
    2. (b) 21 January 1988;
  3. (3) no.
Great Trek Commemoration Festival: participation of schools *6. Mr A GERBER

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:†

Whether (a) he, (b) his Department and/or (c) the provincial education departments have given permission for schools under his control to be involved with the celebrations of the (i) Federaste van Afrikaanse Kultuurverenigings and (ii) Afrikaner Volkswag in connection with the commemoration of the Great Trek; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant particulars?

†The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:

(a), (b), (c)(i) and (ii) An overall policy regarding all three festivals, the Dias 88, Huguenots 300 (1988) and the Great Trek Commemoration Festival, was determined in accordance with which each school arranges an internal commemoration.

When permission was granted to schools regarding participation in the Great Trek Commemoration Festival the bodies presenting this festival were not indicated.

The Government, however, considers the Federasie van Afrikaanse Kultuurverenigings as the umbrella organization. The festival presented by the FAK is therefore considered the official festival towards which a financial contribution was made.

It is therefore expected from schools to cooperate and participate fully in this festival.

Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS:

Mr Speaker, arising out of the hon Minister’s reply, would it then be possible for a group of schools to arrange their own Great Trek festivities?

†The MINISTER:

Mr Speaker, I refer the hon member to my reply to a previous question that each school will on its own celebrate the three different festivals in different ways. I shall let the reply I have already furnished, suffice.

†Mr S C JACOBS:

Mr Speaker, further arising out of the reply of the hon the Minister, will scholars be compelled to attend the festivities, and will steps be taken against them if they do not do so?

†The MINISTER:

Mr Speaker, no child of any parent is compelled to do anything that will conflict with the conscience of such parent. [Interjections.] The directives have been spelt out very clearly, and I shall let the reply suffice.

Technikon hostels: admission of students of colour *7. Mr R M BURROWS

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

  1. (1) Whether he has determined a policy regarding the admission of students of colour to technikon hostels; if not, why not; if so, (a) what is the current policy and (b) when was it determined;
  2. (2) whether this policy was determined in consultation with technikon councils and other Government Departments; if not, why not; if so, what (a) technikon councils, (b) Government Departments and/or (c) other specified bodies contributed to the formulation of this policy;
  3. (3) whether he will make available the admissions policy for students of colour of each technikon and hostel falling under his control; if not, why not; if so, (a) what is the policy, and (b) with effect from what date does this policy apply, in each case?
The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (1) Yes,
    1. (a) students of colour are at present not allowed to reside in hostels of technikons under the Department’s jurisdiction,
    2. (b) this has applied since the establishment of the technikons;
  2. (2) (a), (b) and (c) no, consultation was not necessary because the existing policy is one of retaining the status quo;
  3. (3) (a) and (b) the policy is set out in (1 )(a) above.
Mr R M BURROWS:

Mr Speaker, arising out of the hon the Minister’s reply, I should like to know whether he has taken note of the report of the committee of the President’s Council on the report of the Technical Committee on the Group Areas Act which recommends that the councils of technikons be granted power to admission in respect of the hostels under their own auspices, which was signed by members of his own party.

†The MINISTER:

Mr Speaker, I refer the hon member to the reply to exactly the same question he put to me a week ago. [Interjections.]

Financing of subsidies for private schools: changes in formula/policy *8. Mr R M BURROWS

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

  1. (1) Whether any change has been effected or is envisaged in the formula or policy for the financing of subsidies for private schools; if not, why not; if so, what changes have been or are to be effected;
  2. (2) what is the current formula for the financing of private schools;
  3. (3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
†The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (1) No change has been effected. Changes according to needs are considered from time to time when altered circumstances warrant it.
  2. (2) The present subsidy formula is based on 45% or 15% or 0% of the provision for the current expenditure in primary and secondary schools for each actual pupil in a registered private school of the particular education department, as calculated according to the proposed standard formula for the financing of an education department.
  3. (3) no.

For written reply:

General Affairs:

Displaying of banner in Monument Park, Pretoria: investigation 195. Mr K M ANDREW

to ask the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether, with reference to his reply to Question No 21 on 8 September 1987, the investigation into the incident involving the displaying of a banner in Monument Park, Extension 2, Pretoria, has been completed; if not, (a) why not and (b) when is it anticipated that the investigation will be completed; if so, (i) when and (ii) what were the findings;
  2. (2) whether any persons have been charged with offences in connection with the incident; if so, (a) who and (b) with what offences;
  3. (3) whether any further action has been taken in connection with this incident; if not, why not; if so, what action?
The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) Yes.
    1. (a) and (b) Fall away.
      1. (i) 30 September 1987.
      2. (ii) The South African Police could not identify the responsible person/persons.
  2. (2) No.
    1. (a) and (b) Fall away.
  3. (3) Yes. Police patrols were instructed to be on their guard for similar incidents.
Unrest-related activities: members suspended/ dismissed 196. Mr K M ANDREW

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

Whether any members of the South African Police were (a) suspended and (b) dismissed in 1987 as a result of arrests, interrogations, detentions or other unrest-related activities; if so, how many in each case?

The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

Yes.

  1. (a) 15 members.
  2. (b) 5 members.
Vagrancy/drunkenness: arrests 197. Mr K M ANDREW

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

How many (a) males and (b) females of each race group were arrested in 1987 for (i) vagrancy and (ii) drunkenness in the Cape Town police station area?

The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (a)
    1. (i) 561 persons.
    2. (ii) 4 494 persons.
  2. (b)
    1. (i) 248 persons.
    2. (ii) 1 519 persons.

NOTE: Separate statistics of different races are not kept and is therefore not available.

Emergency regulations: persons held in police cells 199. Mr S S VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

What total number of persons detained in terms of emergency regulations (a) had been held in police cells since 12 June 1986, and (b) were still being held in police cells, as at the latest specified date for which information is available?

The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

(a) and (b) I refer the honourable member to my reply to oral question 3 of 23 February 1988.

Public Safety Act: restriction orders served 200. Mr S S VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

(a) How many persons detained under the 1987 emergency regulations in terms of the Public Safety Act, No 3 of 1953, were subsequently served with restriction orders and (b) to which areas were they restricted in each case?

The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (a) and (b) I refer the honourable member to my reply to written question 87.
Internal Security Act: detainees 201. Mr S S VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) (a) What total number of persons was detained in terms of the Internal Security Act, No 74 of 1982, in 1987 and (b)(i) in terms of which section or sections of the said Act and (ii) for what period was each such person detained;
  2. (2) whether any persons so detained were (a) charged and (b) convicted; if so, how many in each case in respect of that year?
The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) (a) and (b)
    I refer the honourable member to my reply to written question 48.
  2. (2)
    1. (a) Yes—81 persons.
    2. (b) 8 persons were convicted.
      2 persons were acquitted.
      The trial of 71 persons are still pending.
Inspectors/magistrates: visits to detainees 203. Mr S S VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

How many visits to detainees held under section 29 of the Internal Security Act, No 74 of 1982, were made by (a) inspectors and (b) magistrates in 1987?

The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (a) 3 745 visits.
  2. (b) 3 896 visits.
Detention/release: representations from detainees 204. Mr S S VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

Whether he received any written representations in 1987 from detainees held under section 29 of the Internal Security Act, No 74 of 1982, relating to their detention or release; if so, (a) how many and (b) in how many cases did the representations result in the release of the detainees concerned?

The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

Yes.

  1. (a) 71 detainees.
  2. (b) none.
Sect. 50/29(1) of Internal Security Act: detainees 205. Mr S S VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

Whether any persons detained in 1987 in terms of section 50 of the Internal Security Act, No 74 of 1982, were subsequently detained in terms of section 29(1) of the said Act; if so, how many?

The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

No.

Alleged contraventions of Group Areas Act: investigations 209. Mr S S VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (a) How many investigations have been held by the South African Police into alleged contraventions of the Group Areas Act, No 36 of 1966, since 30 April 1987 and (b) in respect of what date is this information furnished?
The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (a) 1 026 cases.
  2. (b) 30 April 1987 until 31 January 1988.
Drugs confiscated 210. Mr S S VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

What was the (a) mass or number of units and (b) value of the (i) dagga, (ii) LSD, (iii) heroin, (iv) cocaine, (v) Mandrax and (vi) other drugs confiscated by the South African Police in 1987?

The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

(a)

(b)

(i)

Dagga

10 584 813 kilogramme

R10,58 million

(ii)

LSD

6 927 units

R69 270,00

(iii)

Heroin

1 830 gramme

R457 500,00

(iv)

Cocaine

1 402 gramme

R350 500,00

(v)

Mandrax

14,9 million tablettes

R74,3 million

(vi)

Other

Opium 26 gramme 43 868 tablettes

R5 200,00

R214 340,00

NOTE: The amounts furnished in paragraph (b) represent estimated values.

Turkey: import or customs duty on goods 222. Mr D J N MALCOMESS

asked the Minister of Economics Affairs and Technology:

  1. (1) Whether any changes were effected recently in the rate of import or customs duty on goods from Turkey; if so, (a) when were the changes implemented, (b) what is the nature of the changes and (c) why were they effected;
  2. (2) whether organizations which are affected by the changes were (a) advised of the changes and/or (b) asked for comment on the proposed changes; if not, why not; if so, when;
  3. (3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
The MINISTER OF ECONOMIC AFFAIRS AND TECHNOLOGY:
  1. (1) Yes.
    1. (a) 1 January 1988.
    2. (b) A maximum ad valorem rate of duty of 3 per cent is levied on all goods imported from Turkey.
    3. (c) In an endeavour to bring about an equilibrium in the imbalance of the trade between Turkey and South Africa.
  2. (2)
    1. (a) Yes, by means of a notice in the Government Gazette.
    2. (b) No. Comment prior to publication of the notice was not sought because of the sensitivity and urgency of the matter. The matter is, however, at present being discussed with the industries concerned.
  3. (3) Not at this stage.
Internal Security Act/emergency regulations: persons arrested for attending prohibited gatherings 248. Mr S S VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

How many persons were arrested by the security forces in 1987 for allegedly attending gatherings prohibited in terms of (a) section 46 of the Internal Security Act, No 74 of 1982, and (b) the emergency regulations?

The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (a) 316 persons.
  2. (b) 56 persons.
Companies/individuals: income tax 288. Mr H H SCHWARZ

asked the Minister of Finance:

What is the total amount of income tax assessed for the 1986-87 tax year in respect of (a) companies and (b) individuals?

The MINISTER OF FINANCE:

AMOUNT

% ASSESSED

(a) Companies:

Mining

R1 136 595 736

Non-mining

R1 050 288 131

Total

R2 186 883 867

24,76%

(b) Individuals

R6 232 422 689

67,00%

The statistics in (b) above do not include taxpayers under the Final Deduction System.

Individuals/companies: income tax written off as irrecoverable 289. Mr H H SCHWARZ

asked the Minister of Finance:

Whether any income tax was written off in the 1986-87 financial year as irrecoverable; if so, (a) in respect of how many (i) individuals and (ii) companies and (b) what was the amount of tax written off in each category?

The MINISTER OF FINANCE:
  1. (a)
    1. (i) 6 223
    2. (ii) 321
  2. (b)
    1. (i) R6 142 297,48
    2. (ii) R3 819 555,68
Taxpayers 290. Mr H H SCHWARZ

asked the Minister of Finance:

How many taxpayers in each income category in respect of the 1986-87 tax year were (a) White, (b) Coloured, (c) Indian and (d) Black?

The MINISTER OF FINANCE:

The statistics are not complete, because ±25 per cent of individual taxpayers have not yet been assessed.

(a)

(b)

(c)

(d)

Loss

12 174

213

269

34

0 — 5 000

125 444

36 259

13 299

33 826

5 001 — 10 000

165 894

63 903

24 364

82 972

10 001 — 15 000

194 077

51 276

26 651

60 794

15 001 — 20 000

174 777

26 179

13 991

18 527

20 001 — 25 000

167 402

12 851

7 813

6 086

25 001 — 30 000

140 224

6 098

3 991

2 288

30 001 — 35 000

107 427

2 979

2 272

910

35 001 — 40 000

72 215

1 566

1 267

395

40 001 — 45 000

45 624

863

715

195

45 001 — 50 000

28 212

428

401

108

50 001 — 60 000

28 840

299

352

91

60 001 — 70 000

11 994

80

144

19

70 001 — 80 000

5 850

31

70

14

80 001 — 90 000

3 553

12

57

7

90 001 — 100 000

12 231

14

36

4

100 001 — 150 000

4 585

16

56

5

150 001 — 200 000

1 292

6

18

1

200 001 — 250 000

473

1

6

1

250 001 +

680

2

6

1

TOTAL:

1 302 968

203 076

95 778

206 278

NOTE: The above statistics do not include taxpayers under the Final Deduction System.

Mining/non-mining companies: tax collected 291. Mr H H SCHWARZ

asked the Minister of Finance:

What amount in company tax was collected from (a) mining and (b) non-mining companies in each month of 1987?

The MINISTER OF FINANCE:

(a) Mining R

(b) Non-mining R

(a) & January

28 680 268

557 552 319

(b) February

1 094 021 972

225 309 525

March

150 780 390

441 870 569

April

1 283 303

443 394 890

May

236 581 298

68 944 397

June

258 533 826

298 031 554

July

2 544 109

1 293 969 222

August

856 646 901

224 046 549

September

96 367 484

674 063 889

October

5 023 326

729 893 293

November

144 164 770

101 502 198

December figures are not yet final.

Individual taxpayers/tax expressed as percentage of total tax 292. Mr H H SCHWARZ

asked the Minister of Finance:

  1. (a) What was the (i) number of individual taxpayers in each income category and (ii) tax assessed in each income category expressed as a percentage of the total tax assessed in the 1986-87 tax year and (b) what percentage of each group of taxpayers is Black?
The MINISTER OF FINANCE:
  1. (a) (i) and (ii) The statistics are not complete because ±25 per cent of individual taxpayers have not yet been assessed.
  2. (b)

Income category

Number of individual taxpayers in income category

Percentage black taxpayers in income category

Tax assessed in income category as percentage of total tax assessed

Loss

12 690

0,00

0,00

0—

5 000

208 828

1,87

0,07

5 001—

10 000

337 133

4,59

1,53

10 001—

15 000

332 798

3,36

5,00

15 001—

20 000

233 474

1,02

7,70

20 001—

25 000

194 152

0,34

10,67

25 001—

30 000

152 601

0,13

12,24

30 001—

35 000

113 588

0,05

12,42

35 001—

40 000

75 443

0,02

10,67

40 001—

45 000

47 397

0,01

8,30

45 001—

50 000

29 149

0,01

6,13

50 001—

60 000

29 582

0,01

7,67

60 001—

70 000

12 237

0,00

4,07

70 001—

80 000

5 965

0,00

2,43

80 001—

90 000

3 629

0,00

1,76

90 001—

100 000

12 285

0,00

1,28

100 001—

150 000

4 662

0,00

3,54

150 001—

200 000

1 317

0,00

1,47

200 001—

250 000

481

0,00

0,72

250 001 +

689

0,00

2,33

TOTAL

1 808 100

11,41

100,00

NOTE: The above statistics do not include taxpayers under the Final Deduction System.

GST: irregularities 293. Mr H H SCHWARZ

asked the Minister of Finance:

  1. (a) How many cases of irregularities in respect of general sales tax have been discovered since 1 January 1987, (b) what is the amount of tax involved and (c) in respect of what date is this information furnished?
The MINISTER OF FINANCE:
  1. (a) 9 791
  2. (b) R113 343 849
  3. (c) Period 1 January 1987 — 31 December 1987.
Concessions granted: amount of tax lost 294. Mr H H SCHWARZ

asked the Minister of Finance:

What is the total amount of tax lost or expected to be lost as a result of tax concessions granted to decentralized or deconcentrated industries in respect of the year ended 31 March 1987?

The MINISTER OF FINANCE:

Because many taxpayers (especially companies) have not yet put in their 1987 returns, it is not possible to give a final figure, but on the basis of assessments already raised, the income tax concessions granted to decentralized or deconcentrated industries in respect of the year ending 31 March 1987 will amount to approximately R28 million.

Burglaries 297. Mr H H SCHWARZ

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

How many burglaries were reported to the South African Police during the period 1 July 1986 to 30 June 1987?

The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

194 286 burglaries.

NOTE: I wish to point out to the hon member that for the sake of efficiency, statistics were furnished for the period 1 January to 31 December 1987. All statistical reports will in future be furnished in calender year periods.

This figure represents a decrease of nearly 2% in comparison with the previous year.

Motor vehicles reported stolen 299. Mr H H SCHWARZ

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1)
    1. (a) How many motor vehicles were reported stolen during the period 1 January to 31 December 1987 and (b) what is the value of the motor vehicles stolen during that period;
  2. (2) how many such vehicles were recovered in (a) an undamaged, (b) a damaged and (c) a cannibalized condition?
The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) 59 936 motor vehicles.
    2. (b) An estimated value of R899 040 000.
  2. (2)
    1. (a) 33 177 motor vehicles with an estimated value of R497 655 000.
    2. (b) 7 112 motor vehicles.
    3. (c) 2 040 motor vehicles.
Air traffic controllers: shortage/vacancies 369. Mr D J N MALCOMESS

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

Whether there is a shortage of air traffic controllers in his Department at present; if so, (a) how many vacancies are there, (b) at which airports do these vacancies exist in each case and (c) in respect of what date is this information furnished?

The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:

Yes.

  1. (a) 11.
  2. (b) 8 at Jan Smuts Airport;
    1 at Louis Botha Airport; and
    2 at D F Malan Airport.
  3. (c) 24 February 1988.
Lorries impounded 372. Mr D J N MALCOMESS

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

Whether any lorries were impounded in 1987 by officials of the Department of Transport; if so, (a) how many in each month and (b) for what reason in each case?

The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:

Yes

(a)

(b)

Month

Number

Reason

January

0

Not applicable.

February

1

Unauthorized road transportation.

March

0

Not applicable

April

0

Not applicable

May

0

Not applicable

June

0

Not applicable

July

0

Not applicable

August

0

Not applicable

September

0

Not applicable

October

0

Not applicable

November

0

Not applicable

December

0

Not applicable

Bus companies: subsidies 375. Mr D J N MALCOMESS

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

What total amount was paid to bus companies in respect of subsidies for the transport of passengers in the (a) Johannesburt/Pretoria, (b) Cape Town/Peninsula, (c) Port Elizabeth/Uitenhage and (d) Durban/Pinetown areas in the 1987/88 financial year?

The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:

Particulars are not yet available in view of the fact that the 1987/88 financial year only terminates on 31 March 1988.

Black Transport Services Act: contributions from employers 378. Mr D J N MALCOMESS

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

What was the total amount collected in terms of the provisions of the Black Transport Services Act, No 53 of 1957, in contributions from employers in the 1986-87 financial year?

The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:

R41 131 194,85.

Tsitsikamma toll road: total amount collected 379. Mr D J N MALCOMESS

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

What is the total amount (a) collected by the concessionaires, and (b) paid to the State by them after retaining the amount due to them for their expenses and/or commission, in respect of the Tsitsikamma toll road in 1987?

The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:
  1. (a) R1 653 471,36
  2. (b) R1 456 967,55.
Commuter traffic: subsidy to bus operators 381. Mr D J N MALCOMESS

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

What was the extent of the subsidy granted to bus operators in respect of commuter traffic in each of the four main metropolitan areas in the 1986-87 financial year?

The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:

Pretoria, Witwatersrand and Vaal Triangle metropolitan area:

R135 642 823,08

Durban/Pietermaritzburg metropolitan area:

R64 948 763,00

Cape Town metropolitan area:

Port Elizabeth/Uitenhage metropolitan area:

R28 319 399,22

R10 210 608,91

Pelagic fish landed 424. Mr R R HULLEY

asked the Minister of Environment Affairs:

How many tonnes of (a) anchovy and pilchard and (b) non-quota pelagic fish were landed during the 1987 fishing season or during the latest specified period of 12 months for which figures are available?

The MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT AFFAIRS:

During the 1987 fishing season:

  1. (a) 595 700 tonnes anchovy;
    37 200 tonnes pilchards.
  2. (b) 38 800 tonnes non-quota species.
Black spots removed 447. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Education and Development Aid:

  1. (1)
    1. (a) How many Black spots had been removed in each (i) magisterial district and (ii) province since 1 January 1988 as at the latest specified date for which figures are available, (b) what was the (i) name and (ii) population of each such Black spot and (c) where were the inhabitants of each spot resettled;
  2. (2) what was the total (a) amount paid out in compensation for, and (b) cost of removing, each of these Black spots during the above period?
The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND DEVELOPMENT AID:
  1. (1)
    1. (a)
      1. (i) and (ii) No Black spots were resettled since 1 January 1988 up to date but the Department of Development Aid was requested by the Black community of Cornfields, District Estcourt, to render assistance to them with their moving to the Trust farm Boshoek in the District of Estcourt. Cornfields is a portion of the farm Hattingh, District Estcourt, which is an isolated schedule Black area which doesn’t fall within the same category as a de facto Black spot, that is to say, which is neither a released area nor a schedule area. 32 families were resettled since 10 February 1988.
  2. (1)
    1. (b)
      1. (i)(ii) and (c) Fall away.
  3. (2) (a) and (b) Fall away.
Pilchard/anchovy catch: percentage immature juveniles 452. Mr R R HULLEY

asked the Minister of Environment Affairs:

What estimated percentage of the catch of (a) pilchards and (b) anchovies in 1987 were immature juveniles?

The MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT AFFAIRS:
  1. (a) 19 per cent by mass;
    62 per cent by number.
  2. (b) 34 per cent by mass;
    37 per cent by number.
Central Energy Fund: total amount collected 454. Mr R R HULLEY

asked the Minister of Economic Affairs and Technology:

What total amount was Collected on behalf of the Central Energy Fund in the 1987-88 financial year?

The MINISTER OF ECONOMIC AFFAIRS AND TECHNOLOGY:

The 1987-88 financial year of the Central Energy Fund ends on 31 March 1988. For the 10 months ending 31 January 1988 in respect of which information is available, the following amounts were collected on behalf of the Central Energy Fund.

R —Million

Levies received

487,8

Interest received

356,1

Dividends received

25,0

Total

868,9

Crude oil: landed rand cost per barrel 455. Mr R R HULLEY

asked the Minister of Economic Affairs and Technology:

  1. (1) What was the average annual landed rand cost per barrel of crude oil in 1986;
  2. (2) what was the (a) average quarterly landed rand cost per barrel of such oil in 1987 and (b) landed rand cost per barrel of oil as at the latest specified date for which information is available?
The MINISTER OF ECONOMIC AFFAIRS AND TECHNOLOGY:

(1) R33,41 landed cost

(2) (a) 1st quarter

R37,48 landed cost

2nd quarter

R36,26 landed cost

3rd quarter

R39,16 landed cost

4th quarter

R43,00 landed cost

(b) R35,25 landed cost during January 1988.

Middelburg by-pass road: progress 500. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

With reference to his reply to Question No 464 on 23 February 1987, (a) what progress has been made in respect of the Middelburg by-pass road, (b) when is it anticipated that it will be completed and (c) what total amount had been spent in respect of this road as at the latest specified date for which information is available?

The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:
  1. (a) The Middelburg by-pass up to Wonderfontein is being constructed in three phases. The first section of the by-pass was completed and opened to traffic during 1986. The next two sections from the Rockdale interchange to the farm Elandsfontein and from Elandsfontein to Wonderfontein are in progress and reaching 65% completion.
  2. (b) The expected completion date of the latter two sections is the end of July 1988.
  3. (c) The expenditure on the completed section and two running contracts up to 19 February 1988 amounts to R44 211 791,14.
Self-governing territories: shortage of housing 505. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Education and Development Aid:

  1. (1) What was the estimated shortage of housing for Blacks in each self-governing territory at the end of 1987;
  2. (2) how many houses were provided for Blacks in each self-governing territory by the South African Development Trust in 1987;
  3. (3) when is it expected that the shortage will be eliminated in each self-governing territory?
The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND DEVELOPMENT AID:

(1) According to the most recent figures furnished by the self-governing territories the estimated shortage is:

Lebowa:

12 000

KaNgwane:

15 000

KwaZulu:

100 000

Gazankulu:

2 578

Qwaqwa:

17 000

KwaNdebele:

5 000

Total

151 578

  1. (2) None. The South African Government has implemented self-build schemes within all the self-governing territories and no longer builds family housing units. 24 234 serviced sites were, however, made available. Furthermore the functions regarding housing and development of towns have been transferred to the selfgoverning territories who now have decision-making powers.
  2. (3) Unknow. It is not possible to indicate when the shortage of houses will be eliminated. Elimination of the shortage will depend on the availablity of funds.
Applications for deregulation 556. Mr J J WALSH

asked the Minister in the State President’s Office entrusted with Administration and Broadcasting Services:

(a) How many applications for deregulation have been (i) received, (ii) investigated and (iii) granted in terms of the Temporary Removal of Restrictions on Economic Activities Act, No 87 of 1986, (b) in how many cases has deregulation taken placed and (c) in respect of what date is this information furnished?

The MINISTER IN THE STATE PRESIDENT’S OFFICE ENTRUSTED WITH ADMINISTRATION AND BROADCASTING SERVICES:
  1. (a)
    1. (i) 19
    2. (ii) 19 of which 5 are not yet completed.
    3. (iii) 1
  2. (b) 2
  3. (c) 29 February 1988.
Overseas visits 559. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Deputy Minister of Information:

  1. (1) Whether he undertook any overseas visits in 1987; if so, (a) which countries were visited and (b) what was the purpose of each visit;
  2. (2) whether he was accompanied by any representatives of the media on these visits; if so, (a) what were the names of the journalists involved, (b) which newspapers or radio or television networks did they represent, (c) to which countries did each of these persons accompany him and (d) why;
  3. (3) whether any costs were incurred by the Bureau for Information as a result; if so, what total amount in that year?
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF INFORMATION:
  1. (1) No.
    1. (a) and (b) Fall away.
  2. (2) (a) (b) (c) and (d) Fall away.
  3. (3) Falls away.
Overseas visits 561. Mr P G SOAL

asked the State President:

  1. (1) Whether he undertook any overseas visits in 1987; if so, (a) which countries were visited and (b) what was the purpose of each visit:
  2. (2) whether he was accompanied by any representatives of the media on these visits; if so, (a) what were the names of the journalists involved, (b) which newspapers or radio or television networks did they represent, (c) to which countries did each of these persons accompany him and (d) why;
  3. (3) whether any costs were incurred by his Office as a result; if so, what total amount in that year?
The STATE PRESIDENT:

(1) None.

The rest falls away.

Overseas visits 568. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Environment Affairs:

  1. (1) Whether he or the Deputy Minister of Environment Affairs undertook any overseas visits in 1987; if so, (a) which countries were visited and (b) what was the purpose of each visit;
  2. (2) whether he or this Deputy Minister was accompanied by any representatives of the media on these visits; if so, (a) what were the names of the journalists involved, (b) which newspapers or radio or television networks did they represent, (c) to which countries did each of these persons accompany him or this Deputy Minister and (d) why;
  3. (3) whether any costs were incurred by his Department as a result; if so, what total amount in that year?
The MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT AFFAIRS:
  1. (1) No.
  1. (1)
    1. (a) and (b) Fall away.
  2. (2) (a), (b), (c) and (d) Fall away.
  3. (3) Falls away.
Christmas cards sent out 592. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Deputy Minister of Information:

  1. (1) Whether (a) he and/or (b) the Bureau for Information sent out Christmas cards in 1987; if so, (i) what total number of cards was printed, (ii) to whom were they sent, (iii) what was the total cost of producing and distributing these cards, and (iv) who was responsible for printing them, in each case;
  2. (2) whether postage stamps were used to send out these Christmas cards; if not, how were they distributed?
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF INFORMATION:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) Yes.
    2. (b) Yes.
      1. (i) The total number of cards printed was 9 700.
      2. (ii) The cards were sent to contacts in various fields.
      3. (iii) The total printing cost was R5 990 (envelopes included).
      4. (iv) Pretoria-Drukkers printed all the cards.
  2. (2) No postage stamps were used to send out the cards. The cards were distributed officially.
Christmas cards sent out 593. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister in the State President’s Office entrusted with Administration and Broadcasting Services:

  1. (1) Whether (a) he and/or (b) his Department sent out Christmas cards in 1987; if so, (i) what total number of cards was printed, (ii) to whom were they sent, (iii) what was the total cost of producing and distributing these cards, and (iv) who was responsible for printing them, in each case;
  2. (2) whether postage stamps were used to send out these Christmas cards; if not, how were they distributed?
The MINISTER IN THE STATE PRESIDENT’S OFFICE ENTRUSTED WITH ADMINISTRATION AND BROADCASTING SERVICES:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) Yes.
    2. (b) Yes.
      1. (i) 2 350
      2. (ii) Members of Parliament, heads of department and other prominent persons in the private and public sectors.
      3. (iii) R3 775,28
      4. (iv) Secretary, Commission for Administration.
  2. (2) No, as official mail.

Own Affairs:

Christmas cards sent out 52. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

  1. (1) Whether (a) he and/or (b) his Department sent out Christmas cards in 1987; if so, (i) what total number of cards was printed, (ii) to whom were they sent, (iii) what was the total cost of producing and distributing these cards, and (iv) who was responsible for printing them, in each case;
  2. (2) whether postage stamps were used to send out these Christmas cards; if not, how were they distributed?
The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) and (b) yes,

(1)(i) no. of cards

(1)(iii) cost

(1)(iv) printer

Minister and Head Office

1 500

R1 833,00

the State Printer

(Of this quantity 1 000 is available for later use)

Cape

200

R32,20

the education technology section

Natal

*

*

*

OFS

100

R92,00

Bloemfontein Process Engraving (Pty) Ltd

Transvaal

100

R8,50

the reprographic section

  1. (1)
    1. (ii) the cards were sent to people as determined by the Minister, the Superintendent General and the respective Directors of Education;
  2. (2) OFS: yes, Head Office, Cape, Natal and Transvaal: no, the cards were distributed officially.

* Natal did not print special cards. The remainder of the 1986 stock was used.

HOUSE OF DELEGATES

†Indicates translated version.

For written reply:

Own Affairs:

Financial assistance for advancing of culture 4. Mr M RAJAB

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

  1. (1) Whether, during the period 1 June 1987 to 31 January 1988, his Department granted financial assistance to any organizations and/or societies for the purposes of advancing culture; if not, why not; if so, (a) what are the names of these organizations and/or societies, (b) what amounts were granted in each case, (c) for what purpose was each such amount granted, (d) what criteria were applied in making such grants and (e) who determined the amounts of these grants;
  2. (2) whether any organizations and/or societies were refused such financial assistance during the above period; if so, (a) why, (b) what are the names of these organizations and/or societies and (c) what was the amount of the financial assistance requested by each?
The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (1) Yes.

(a)

(b) R

The Ramakrishna Centre of S.A.

4 400

Clairwood Tamil Institution

1 905

Islamic School Council

15 050

Dravida Society of S.A.

1 730

Lower Umfolozi Cultural Arts Society

3 840

Tamil Advancement

Society

4 950

Natal Gujerati Parishad

8 825

Natal Tamil Vedic Society

13 010

Andhra Maha Sabha of S.A.

14 044,41

Hindi Shiksha Sangh, S.A.

10 205

Craigieburn Social and Cultural Society

440

Aryan Benevolent

Home Council

5 500

Modern Art Theatre

1 560

South Indian Music Association

5 080

Luxmi Entertainers

6 900

Natal Indian Cultural Organisation

30 196,56

Linghum Orchestra

3 070

Silverwest Siva Soobramoniar Temple

1 950

Thornville Social and Cultural Society

400

  1. (c) For cultural projects.
  2. (d)
    1. (i) The conditions, governing applications for financial assistance had to be complied with.
    2. (ii) The projects had to be of cultural benefit to the community.
    3. (iii) The grants had to be treated as subsidies.
    4. (iv) Grants were awarded on a one-off basis for projects that were of a non-religious and non-profit making nature.
  3. (e) The Minister on the recommendation of the Culture Promotion Sub-directorate.
  1. (2) Yes.
    1. (a) It was considered that the activities of the organization did not fall within the ambit of “Culture” Promotion.
    2. (b) Boy Scouts of South Africa.
    3. (c) R16 200.