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House of Assembly: Vol7 - FRIDAY 4 MARCH 1988

FRIDAY, 4 MARCH 1988 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY

†Indicates translated version.

For written reply:

General Affairs:

Germiston: offences 14. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

How many cases of (a) murder, (b) culpable homicide, (c) assault with intent to do grievous bodily harm, (d) common assault, (e) rape, (f) robbery, (g) theft of vehicles and cycles, (h) damage to property, (i) housebreaking with intent to steal and theft and (j) possession of drugs were reported at each specified police station in the Germiston police district in 1987 or the latest specified 12-month period for which statistics are available?

 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

(a)

(b)

(c)

(d)

(e)

(f)

(g)

(h)

(i)

(j)

GERMISTON

55

23

223

346

30

318

1 002

306

1 272

—

KATLEHONG

244

84

1 655

920

261

818

381

726

48

—

PRIMROSE

13

10

87

137

16

64

617

163

653

—

ALBERTON

39

71

356

505

61

253

1 736

328

2 214

—

BEDFORDVIEW

15

43

94

136

21

94

577

127

658

—

EDENVALE

9

25

122

104

16

102

667

135

1 210

1

ELSBURG

10

20

81

147

9

51

256

123

510

—

PRESIDENT

6

—

13

35

5

51

12

17

27

3

Note: I wish to point out to the hon member that for the sake of efficiency, statistics were furnished for the period 1 January to 31 December 1987. All statistical reports will in future be furnished in calendar year periods.

 Tear-gas issued to/used by SAP 40. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

What quantity of tear-gas was (a) issued to and (b) used by the South African Police in 1987?

 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (a) and (b) I refer the hon member to my written reply to question No 338 of 18 September 1987 which I regard as sufficient.
 Incidents of sabotage/armed attack/explosions 41. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (a) How many incidents of sabotage, armed attack or explosions occurred in the Republic in 1987 and (b) what was the (i) target and (ii) nature of the incident in each case?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (a) and (b) I do not consider it to be in the public interest nor the interest of the country to furnish this information.
 Sebokeng/Sharpville: offences 42. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

How many cases of (a) murder, (b) culpable homicide, (c) assault with intent to do grievous bodily harm, (d) common assault, (e) rape, (f) robbery, (g) theft of vehicles and cycles, (h) damage to property, (i) housebreaking with intent to steal and theft and (j) possession of drugs were reported at each specified police station in the Sebokeng and Sharpville police station areas in the Vereeniging police district for the period 1 July 1986 to 30 June 1987?

 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

(a)

(b)

(c)

(d)

(e)

(f)

(g)

(h)

(i)

(j)

SEBOKENG

224

59

1 626

1 155

278

657

221

768

694

—

SHARPVILLE

22

9

468

218

93

106

29

67

41

—

Note: I wish to point out to the hon member that for the sake of efficiency, statistics were furnished for the period 1 January to 31 December 1987. All statistical reports will in future be furnished in calendar year periods.

 Pretoria/Pretoria North: offences 43. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

How many cases of (a) murder, (b) culpable homicide, (c) assault with intent to do grievous bodily harm, (d) common assault, (e) rape, (f) robbery, (g) theft of vehicles and cycles, (h) damage to property, (i) housebreaking with intent to steal and theft and (j) possession of drugs were reported at each specified police station in the Pretoria and Pretoria North police districts for the period 1 July 1986 to 30 June 1987?

 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

(a)

(b)

(c)

(d)

(e)

(f)

(g)

(h)

(i)

(j)

PRETORIA-CENTRAL

20

28

162

653

47

456

894

264

735

1

SUNNYSIDE

4

10

36

322

21

40

929

361

669

0

PRETORIA-WEST

14

29

68

415

27

100

346

169

690

1

BROOKLYN

7

30

69

268

23

65

986

175

1 761

0

WIERDABRUG

10

25

93

172

24

71

557

102

854

2

ERASMIA

13

9

183

293

33

121

116

137

441

0

ATTERIDGEVILLE

33

15

841

1 103

156

309

87

390

193

0

LYTTLETON

3

17

48

120

10

59

384

87

624

0

JAKARANDA

0

1

9

16

2

22

1

6

5

1

PRETORIA-NORTH

12

23

121

332

31

97

569

154

661

0

HARTBEESPOORTDAM

5

14

138

161

20

42

67

51

380

0

HAMMANSKRAAL

5

23

101

81

12

57

27

36

152

0

DE WILDT

5

6

42

49

12

26

19

35

109

0

BRITS

34

41

436

469

61

150

182

163

745

0

KAMEELDRIFT

5

23

135

157

32

34

50

51

264

0

ASSEN

1

4

37

21

8

6

2

12

21

0

RIETGAT

1

1

24

28

2

11

7

5

11

0

SOSHANGUVE

29

18

461

642

97

280

116

259

270

0

LETLHABILE

0

1

39

18

1

12

0

2

12

0

ROSSLYN

13

23

65

150

19

63

197

57

565

1

Note: I wish to point out to the hon member that for the sake of efficiency, statistics were furnished for the period 1 January to 31 December 1987, All statistical reports will in future be furnished in calendar year periods.

 Johannesburg: offences 44. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

How many cases of (a) murder, (b) culpable homicide, (c) assault with intent to do grievous bodily harm, (d) common assault, (e) rape, (f) robbery, (g) theft of vehicles and cycles, (h) damage to property, (i) housebreaking with intent to steal and theft and (j) possession of drugs were reported at each specified police station in the Johannesburg police district for the period 1 July 1986 to 30 June 1987?

 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

(a)

(b)

(c)

(d)

(e)

(f)

(g)

(h)

(i)

(j)

JOHN VORSTER SQUARE

88

24

316

973

73

1 508

3 449

376

2 113

9

LANGLAAGTE

22

9

68

237

33

133

263

156

369

1

MONDEOR

29

33

124

325

45

365

520

159

1 217

—

JEPPE

133

28

228

431

53

515

1 402

261

1 530

2

BOOYSENS

54

38

167

707

51

322

2 533

436

2 312

—

CLEVELAND

34

18

79

171

19

237

643

140

1 108

—

BRIXTON

10

1

58

314

13

48

712

190

742

—

GEN JOHAN COETZEE

52

15

243

1 106

35

119

494

475

925

8

PARK STATION

10

—

43

65

6

118

60

71

30

23

Note: I wish to point out to the hon member that for the sake of efficiency, statistics were furnished for the period 1 January to 31 December 1987. All statistical reports will in future be furnished in calendar year periods.

 Section 29/50 of Internal Security Act: detainees 46. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

What total number of persons in each race group was in detention in each specified region in terms of (a) section (i) 29 and (ii) 50 of the Internal Security Act, No 74 of 1982, and (b) the emergency regulations as at the latest specified date for which information is available?

 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

(a) (i)

Blacks

Whites

Coloureds

Indians

Total

Northern Natal

20

—

—

—

20

Soweto

51

—

1

—

52

Eastern Province

26

—

—

—

26

Witwatersrand

8

—

—

—

8

Border

4

1

—

—

5

East Rand

11

—

—

—

11

Western Province

9

1

1

—

11

Western Transvaal

4

—

—

—

4

Northern Transvaal

14

—

—

—

14

Orange Free State

29

—

—

—

29

Far Northern Transvaal

7

—

1

—

8

Northern Cape

8

—

—

—

8

Boland

7

—

—

—

7

Port Natal

4

—

—

—

4

Northern Orange Free State

9

—

—

—

9

Eastern Transvaal

3

—

—

—

3

214

2

3

0

219

(ii) None

Particulars are furnished until 10 February 1988.

(b) A list of names of persons in terms of section 3(4) of the Public Safety Act, 1953 (Act 3 of 1953), was tabled in Parliament on 18 February 1988.

 Section 29(1) of Internal Security Act: detainees 47. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether any persons detained in 1987 under section 29 (1) of the Internal Security Act, No 74 of 1982, were charged; if so, (a) how many and (b) what were the charges;
  2. (2) whether any of those charged were (a) acquitted and (b) found guilty; if so, (i) how many, and (ii) of what charges, in respect of each category?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) Yes
    1. (a) 81 persons
    2. (b) On a variety of charges inter alia—
      Contravening Section 54(1) of the Internal Security Act, 1982 (Act 74 of 1982) — Terrorism.
      Contravening Section 54(2) of the Internal Security Act, 1982 (Act 74 of 1982) — Subversion.
      Contavening Section 54(4) of the Internal Security Act, 1982 (Act 74 of 1982) — Rendering assistance to terrorists.
      Contravening Section 13(1)(a)(v) of the Internal Security Act, 1982 (Act 74 of 1982) — Promoting the aims of a prohibited organization.
      Contravening Section 56(1) of the Internal Security Act, 1982 (Act 74 of 1982) — Possession of prohibited publications.
      Contravening Section 32 of the Arms and Ammunition Act, 1969 (Act 75 of 1969).
      Contravening Section 28(1) of the Explosives Act, 1956 (Act 26 of 1956).
      Contravening Section 2(1) of the Terrorism Act, 1967 (Act 83 of 1967) — Participating in terrorist activities.
      Murder
      Attempted Murder
  2. (2) (a) and (b) (i) and (ii)
    Statistics of this nature fall under the Department of Justice and can be requested from the Minister of Justice.
 Section 29(1) of Internal Security Act: detainees 48. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (a) How many persons were detained in 1987 under section 29(1) of the Internal Security Act, No 74 of 1982, (b) for how long was each of these persons detained and (c) how many of them were still being detained as at the latest specified date for which information is available?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (a) 519 persons
  2. (b) Because the work involved in compiling this information is voluminous and timeconsuming, it is not practically feasible to furnish this information.
  3. (c) 195 persons on 11 February 1988.

NOTE: Where persons were detained for periods longer than six months, their cases were in terms of section 29(2)(ii) reconsidered by the review board, who recommended their futher detention.

 Section 29(1) of Internal Security Act: detainees 49. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) How many persons were detained under section 29(1) of the Internal Security Act, No 74 of 1982, as at the latest specified date for which figures are available;
  2. (2) whether any such persons had been detained for longer than three months; if so, (a) how many and (b) for what period in each case?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) 219 persons on 12 February 1988.
  2. (2) Yes
    1. (a) 185 persons
    2. (b) longer than 3 months — 20 persons
      longer than 4 months — 41 persons
      longer than 5 months — 51 persons
      longer than 6 months — 73 persons.

NOTE: Where persons were detained for periods longer than six months, their cases were in terms of section 29(2)(ii) reconsidered by the review board, who recommended their further detention.

 Emergency regulations: detainees charged 51. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether any persons detained in terms of the emergency regulations since 31 May 1987 have been charged; if so, (a) how many, (b) with what offence in each case and (c) in respect of what date is this information furninished;
  2. (2) whether this information includes persons detained in the self-governing territories; if not, why not?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) Yes
    1. (a) 312 persons
    2. (b) On a variety of charges inter alia:
      Murder
      Public violence
      Robbery
      Kidnapping
      Assault
      Malicious damage to property
      Sedition
      Arson
      Intimidation
      Possession of prohibited publications and undermining statements
      Defeating the ends of justice
      Attempted murder
      Possession of unlicenced firearms
      Possession of petrol bombs
      Contravening section 54(1) of the Internal Security Act, 1982 (Act 74 of 1982) — Terrorism
      Contravening section 13(1)(a)(v) of the Internal Security Act, 1982 (Act 74 of 1982) — promoting the aims of a prohibited organization.
    3. (c) 15 February 1988
  2. (2) Yes
 Internal Security Act: detainees charged 52. Mr H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether any persons detained in terms of the Internal Security Act, No 74 of 1982, since 5 June 1987 have been charged; if so, (a) how many, (b) with what offence in each case and (c) in respect of what date is this information furnished;
  2. (2) whether this information includes persons detained in the self-governing territories; if not, why not?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) Yes
    1. (a) 50 persons
    2. (b) On a variety of charges inter alia —
      Murder
      Contravening section 54(1) of the Internal Security Act, 1982 (Act 74 of 1982) — Terrorism
      Contravening section 54(4) of the Internal Securty Act, 1982 (Act 74 of 1982) — Seduction
      Contravening section 13(1)(a)(i) of the Internal Security Act, 1982 (Act 74 of 1982) — Office bearer of a prohibited organization
      Contravening section 28(1) of the Explosives Act, 1956 (Act 26 of 1956) Contravening section 26(1) of the Conditions of Employment (SATS) Act, 1983 (Act 16 of 1983)
    3. (c) 18 February 1988
  2. (2) No. Because there are no persons being detained in terms of section 29 of the Internal Security Act, 1982 (Act 74 of 1982), in the self-governing territories.
 Security laws: detainees died 53. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

Whether any persons died in 1987 while being detained in terms of the security laws of the Republic; if so, (a) how many, (b) what were their names, (c) (i) on what date and (ii) in terms of what statutory provisons was each detained, (d) on what date did each of them die and (e) what was the cause of death in each case?

 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

Yes

  1. (a) 2 persons
  2. (b) to (e) I refer the hon member to my reply to oral question No 2 of 2 June 1987 and oral question No 14 of 18 August 1987.
 Emergency regulations: detainees 54. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (a) What total number of persons were detained in terms of the emergency regulations in (i) 1986 since 12 June 1986 and (ii) 1987 and (b) how many of these persons were under the age of 18 years?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (a) and (b) I refer the hon member to my reply to oral question No 3 of 23 February 1988.
 Emergency regulations: detainees 59. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (a) How many persons were detained in terms of the emergency regulations during each month from June 1986 to January 1988 and (b) how many of these persons were under the age of (i) 18 and (ii) 16 years in each case?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (a) and (b) I refer the hon member to my reply to oral question No 3 of 23 February 1988.
 Internal Security Act: detainees 60. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1)
    1. (a) What total number of persons had been detained in terms of the Internal Security Act, No 74 of 1982, since 10 February 1987 as at the latest specified date for which information is available and (b) in terms of which section of the above-mentioned Act were they detained in each case;
  2. (2) whether any persons originally detained under one section of the above-mentioned Act were subsequently detained under another section of the Act; if so, (a) how many, and (b) under which section were they detained (i) originally and (ii) subsequently, in each case?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) 484 persons on 12 February 1988
    2. (b) Section 29
  2. (2) Yes
    1. (a) 20 persons
    2. (b)
      1. (i) Section 29
      2. (ii) Section 31(1)
 Soweto West: offences 66. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

How many cases of (a) murder, (b) culpable homicide, (c) assault with intent to do grievous bodily harm, (d) common assault, (e) rape, (f) robbery, (g) theft of vehicles and cycles, (h) damage to property, (i) housbreaking with intent to steal and theft and (j) possession of drugs were reported at each specified police station in the Soweto West police district in 1987?

 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

(a)

(b)

(c)

(d)

(e)

(f)

(g)

(h)

(i)

(j)

JABULANI

192

84

632

634

216

530

231

465

278

MOROKA

295

139

841

976

357

661

360

641

496

—

KLIPTOWN

117

81

750

1 467

169

363

275

786

672

—

LENASIA

33

22

193

467

52

149

289

274

481

13

NEW CANADA

7

2

37

18

12

46

1

20

29

—
Soweto East: offences 67. Mr H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

How many cases of (a) murder, (b) culpable homicide, (c) assault with intent to do grievous bodily harm, (d) common assault, (e) rape, (f) robbery, (g) theft of vehicles and cycles, (h) damage to property, (i) housebreaking with intent to steal and theft and (j) possession of drugs were reported at each specified police station in the Soweto East police district in 1987?

 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

(a)

(b)

(c)

(d)

(e)

(f)

(g)

(h)

(i)

(j)

ORLANDO

251

121

1 178

1 178

363

595

425

704

451

—

MEADOWLANDS

183

56

1 015

848

227

410

227

499

217

—

DOBSONVILLE

35

5

549

289

68

101

77

129

115

—
Joint management centres established 68. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the State President:

  1. (a) How many jont management centres had been established as at 31 December 1987, (b) where are these centres located, (c) who (i) is the chairman and (ii) are the members of each of these centres and (d) what tasks do these members perform in respect of these joint management centres?
 The STATE PRESIDENT:
  1. (a) 11
  2. (b) Cape Town
    Port Elizabeth
    Durban
    Bloemfontein
    Johannesburg
    Potchefstroom
    Kimberley
    Pietersburg
    Nelspruit
    Pretoria
    Walvis Bay
  3. (c) Functionaries of state departments and provinces and officers of the security forces. Chairmen are elected annually. Chairmen and members of joint management centres change constantly as they a re transferred.
  4. (d) To provide departmental inputs at regional level so that actions can be coordinated at regional level.
    It is noticeable that the SACP and ANC constantly complain about the existence and activities of the JMCs and identify them as targets in their commentaries.lt is indicative of the successes that are achieved.
 Pietermaritzburg: offences 85. Mr R M BURROWS

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

How many cases of (a) murder, (b) culpable homicide, (c) assault with intent to do grievous bodily harm, (d) common assault, (e) rape, (f) robbery, (g) theft of vehicles and cycles, (h) damage to property, (i) housebreaking with intent to steal and theft and (j) possession of drugs were reported at each specified police station in the Pietermaritzburg police district in 1987?

 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

(a)

(b)

(c)

(d)

(e)

(f)

(g)

(h)

(i)

(j)

PIETERMARITZBURG

64

13

292

476

25

381

467

196

1 121

INCHANGA

27

14

121

92

25

66

15

49

225

—

MID ILLOVU

22

9

48

19

4

12

3

19

49

—

ALEXANDRA ROAD

10

11

42

133

16

41

214

77

676

—

BISHOPSTOWE

17

1

53

28

2

11

6

24

36

—

BOSTON

1

4

17

12

—

3

4

13

50

—

CAMPERDOWN

22

20

159

89

28

76

48

46

271

—

CRAMOND

17

7

71

21

3

10

6

5

68

—

HILTON

3

3

31

29

5

20

26

17

212

—

HOWICK

32

17

285

134

22

38

56

87

381

—

IMPENDLE

15

2

85

51

10

15

3

2

82

—

MOUNTAIN RISE

61

36

444

947

69

185

211

626

704

4

NOTTINGHAM ROAD

6

3

55

38

8

6

13

11

101

—

PLESSISLAER

623

96

916

823

197

430

129

769

1 203

—

PRESTBURY

1

—

3

12

1

8

39

11

298

—

RICHMOND

43

6

189

98

15

26

23

50

352

—

THORNVILLE

6

8

101

69

7

29

11

29

96

—

TOWN HILL

4

13

5

19

6

20

55

12

250

—

HAMMERSDALE

149

28

276

281

99

233

52

320

512

—

PIONEER

3

—

7

10

—

7

2

7

20

4
Proclamation No R103 of 1973: detainees 86. Mr R M BURROWS

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1)
    1. (a) How many persons have been detained under Proclamation No R103 of 1973, as amended by Proclamation No R226 of 1978, in each magisterial district since its promulgation in 1973 and (b) in respect of what date is this information furnished;
  2. (2) whether any persons are being detained under this proclamation at present; if so, (a) how many, (b) for what alleged offences and (c) for how long has each been in detention?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) 1 614 persons in the Msinga magisterial district
      285 persons in the Kliprivier magisterial district
      1 person in the Kranskop magisterial district
    2. (b) 19 February 1988
  2. (2) yes
    1. (a) One person
    2. (b) Murder
    3. (c) 39 days

NOTE: Detentions in terms of this proclamation in KwaZulu are not included in these figures.

 Mamelodi: investigation into deaths on 21 November 1985 89. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether, with reference to his reply to Question No 268 on 8 September 1987, the further investigation by the South African Police into the deaths of persons killed in Mamelodi on 21 November 1985 has been completed; if not, why not; if so, (a) when, (b) what were the findings and (c) what action has been taken as a result of this investigation;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) Yes
    1. (a) 27 October 1987
    2. (b) and (c) The Attorney-General instructed that an inquest should be held.
  2. (2) No
 Accident at Halt Road, Elsies River: member convicted 90. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether, with reference to his reply to Question No 5 on 28 July 1987, any departmental action has been taken against the member of the South African Police convicted of culpable homicide as a result of an accident in Halt Road, Elsies River, on or about 19 August 1986; if not, why not; if so, (a) what action and (b) when;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) No. Because evidence could not be found that the member concerned made himself guilty of any contravention of the Police Act, 1958 (Act 7 of 1958), or the Regulations promulgated by virtue of the Act.
    1. (a) and (b) Fall away.
  2. (2) No
 Treasury: remuneration paid 304. Mr A E NOTHNAGEL

asked the Minister of Finance:†

  1. (1) What total amount (a) was spent in each specified financial year from 1982-83 up to and including 1986-87 and (b) is it estimated will be spent in the 1987-88 financial year on (i) wages and salaries, (ii) bonuses, (iii) housing subsidies, (iv) contributions to medical schemes and funds, (v) contributions to pension schemes and funds, (vi) motor-car schemes, (vii) leave and retirement gratuities and (viii) other forms of direct and indirect expenditure, in respect of persons whose remuneration is paid from the Treasury;
  2. (2) what percentage of the (a) total State revenue, (b) total State expenditure and (c) gross domestic product does the total of the above-mentioned expenditure comprise in each of these financial years?
 The MINISTER OF FINANCE:

(1) (a) and (b)

1982/83

1983/84

1984/85

1985/86

1986/87

1987/88

R’000

R’000

R’000

R’000

R’000

R’000

(i)

Wages and salaries

3 964 882

4 561 731

5 876 099

6 478 157

7 905 088

9 715 013

(ii)

Bonuses

216 341

255 597

341 379

277 375

411 270

594 971

(iii)

Housing subsidies

92 447

158 444

277 190

339 294

392 931

449 069

(iv)

Contributions to medical schemes and funds

71 643

92 348

123 031

173 525

278 462

215 254

(V)

Contributions to pension schemes and funds

701 170

764 084

998 134 1

132 011

1 552 090

1 842 701

(vi)

Motor-car schemes

8 284

10 817

11 005

16 487

15 582

21 573

(vii)

Leave and retirement gratuities

36 076

34 585

57 673

64 238

73 684

109 084

(viii)

Other forms of direct and indirect expenditure

249 214

287 479

345 118

394 487

378 439

474 017

TOTAL

5 340 057

6 165 085

8 029 629

8 875 57411

007 54613

421 682

(2)

1982/83

R’000

1983/84

R’000

1984/85

R’000

1985/86

R’000

1986/87

R’000

1987/88

R’000

(a) Total State Revenue

28,8%

28,9%

31,9%

28,7%

31,6%

33,5%

(b) Total State Expenditure

26,7%

26,2%

28,7%

26,1%

26,4%

27,9%

(c) Gross Domestic Product

6,5%

6,7%

7,4%

7,1%

7,5%

7,6%

Remark: In terms of Resolution no 2, Second Report of the former Select Committee on Public Accounts, 1981 (2), detailed information regarding spending is no longer submitted to the Treasury and is therefore not available at a central point. The only source from which the information can properly be obtained, is the control pay sheets. In terms of Archive instructions these documents are kept for three years only, after which they are destroyed. Departments no longer have all the information at their disposal and calculations had to be made for the various items reflected in the question. Consequently the Treasury cannot unconditionally endorse the correctness of the information.

 Sentenced prisoners: deaths from natural causes 332. Mr D J DALLING

asked the Minister of Justice:

  1. (1) How many sentenced prisoners died of natural causes in 1987;
  2. (2) how many of these deaths were due to pneumonia?
 The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:

(1) and (2) Of the one hundred and fifty (150) sentenced prisoners who died from natural causes during 1987, eighteen (18) died of pneumonia.

 Offences against security of State: sentences served 335. Mr D J DALLING

asked the Minister of Justice:

How many (a) males and (b) females were serving sentences in 1987 for offences against the security of the State which exceeded (i) 10 years, (ii) 5 years and (iii) 2 years?

 The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:
  1. (a)
    1. (i) 145
    2. (ii) 95
    3. (iii) 48
  2. (b)
    1. (i) 1
    2. (ii) 7
    3. (iii) 3
 Awaiting-trial prisoners in custody 345. Mr D J DALLING

asked the Minister of Justice:

What was the average number of awaiting-trial prisoners in custody on the last day of each month in 1987?

 The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:

The figures concerning awaiting-trial prisoners who were incarcerated in South African prisons on the last day of each month during 1987, were as follows:

31 January 1987 — 21 829

28 February 1987 — 21 373

31 March 1987 — 20 668

30 April 1987 — 20 429

31 May 1987 — 20 501

30 June 1987 — 19 030

31 July 1987 — 18 603

31 August 1987 — 18 609

30 September 1987 — 17 727

31 October 1987— 18 450

30 November 1987 — 19 508

31 December 1987 — 20 096

 Crimes against security of State: sentences served 346. Mr D J DALLING

asked the Minister of Justice:

How many (a) White, (b) Coloured, (c) Asian and (d) Black persons were serving sentences for crimes against the security of the State as at the latest specified date for which figures are available?

 The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:

On 31 December 1987 the figures were as follows:

  1. (a) Whites 10
  2. (b) Coloureds 11
  3. (c) Asians 5
  4. (d) Blacks 282
 Crimes against security of State: sentences served 351. Mr S S VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Justice:

How many South West African/Namibian prisoners in South African prisons were serving sentences for crimes against the security of the State as at the latest specified date for which figures are available?

 The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:

None.

I also wish to refer the hon member to my reply to question No 30 and No 210 of 18 March 1986 and 23 February 1987, respectively.

 Land and Agricultural Bank: employees 635. Mr D J N MALCOMESS

asked the Minister of Finance:

With reference to his reply to Question No 84 on 17 February 1988, (a) how many (i) White, (ii) Black, (iii) Indian and (iv) Coloured persons were employed by the Land and Agricultural Bank, (b) how many loans had been issued to employees in respect of each race group, (c) how many loans of (i) over R100 000 and (ii) between R50 000 and R100 000 had been made in respect of each race group, and (d) what rate of interest was being charged in respect of these loans, as at 31 December 1987?

 The MINISTER OF FINANCE:
  1. (a)
    1. (i) 1 010
    2. (ii) 135
    3. (iii) None
    4. (iv) 27
  2. (b) Whites — 511
    Blacks — 7
    Indians — None
    Coloureds — 11
  3. (c)
    1. (i) Whites — 1
      Blacks — None
      Indians — None
      Coloureds — None
    2. (ii) Whites — 297
      Blacks — None
      Indians — None
      Coloureds — None
  4. (d) 3%