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House of Assembly: Vol7 - THURSDAY 24 MARCH 1988

THURSDAY, 24 MARCH 1988 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY

†Indicates translated version.

For written reply:

General Affairs:

Automatic exchange at Dullstroom: equipment delivered 15. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Communications:

  1. (1) Whether, with reference to his reply to Question No 465 on 23 February 1987, the equipment for the automatic exchange at Dullstroom has been delivered; if not, why not; if so, (a) when and (b) what progress has been made in regard to its installation;
  2. (2) what progress has been made in regard to the automatic exchange for Hoedspruit?
 The MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS:
  1. (1) Yes;
    1. (a) delivery commenced during June 1987 and was completed on 17 February 1988, and
    2. (b) installation commenced on 14 March 1988 and it is now expected that the exchange will be commissioned during the first half of 1989;
  2. (2) the delivery of the equipment is now provisionally scheduled to commence during October 1989 and present indications are that the exchange will be ready for service towards the middle of 1990.
 Pretoria: applications for telephone services/ private post boxes outstanding 16. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Communications:

Whether any applications for (a) telephone services and (b) private post boxes were outstanding in the Pretoria area as at the latest specified date for which figures are available; if so, (i) how many, (ii) in respect of which post office areas and (iii) when is it anticipated that the backlog will be eliminated?

 The MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS:

Yes:

(a) (as at 31 December 1987)

(i)

(ii)

(iii)

350

Akasia exchange area

During the first half of 1989 on the commissioning of the new Akasia exchange and the completion of a cable work. See note 1.

1 095

Atteridgeville exchange area

During the first half of 1988 on the commissioning of a 1 984 line extension of the exchange and the completion of a cable work.

3

Bergbries exchange area

See note 2.

3

Bronberg exchange area

See note 3.

64

Constantia Park exchange area

See note 2.

6

Daspoort exchange area

See note 3.

10

Doornkloof exchange area

See note 2.

323

Doompoort exchange area

During the second half of 1988 on the commissioning of the new Doompoort exchange and the completion of a cable work. See note 1.

18

East Lynne exchange area

See note 2.

457

Eersterus exchange area

See note 2.

34

Elardsudpark exchange area

See note 3.

55

Eldoraigne exchange area

See note 3.

5

Erasmia exchange area

See note 3.

40

Erasmusrand exchange area

See note 2.

150

Faerie Glen exchange area

See note 2.

5

Haakdoringboom exchange area

See note 2.

48

Hatfield exchange area

See note 2.

14

Kameeldrif exchange area

See note 3.

15

Laudium exchange area

See note 2.

13

Les Marais exchange area

See note 2.

35

Lynnwood Glen exchange area

During the first half of this year on completion of a cable work. The exchange will also be extended by 2 870 lines during the second half of 1989, if nothing unforeseen occurs.

131

Lyttelton exchange area

During the first half of this year on completion of a cable work. The exchange will also be extended by 1 224 lines during the second half of 1988, if nothing unforeseen occurs. See note 1.

1

Magaliesmoot exchange area

See note 2.

1 451

Mamelodi East exchange area

See note 3.

1 105

Mamelodi West exchange area

During the first half of 1988 on the commissioning of a 1 984 line extension of the exchange and the completion of a cable work.

120

Meyerspark exchange area

See note 2.

6

Olifantsfontein exchange area

See note 3.

205

Pretoria Central exchange area

See note 2.

15

Pretoria North exchange area

See note 2.

62

Pretoria West exchange area

See note 2.

23

Queenswood exchange area

See note 2.

46

Rietfontein exchange area

See note 3.

441

Rooihuiskraal exchange area

See note 2.

69

Rosslyn exchange area

See note 3.

18

Ryneveldpark exchange area

See note 2.

34

Saulsville exchange area

See note 2.

1

Schurveberg exchange area

See note 2.

31

Silverton exchange area

See note 2.

24

Sinoville exchange area

See note 2.

214

Swartkop exchange area

See note 3.

35

Theresapark exchange area

See note 2.

1

Vasfontein exchange area

See note 3.

33

Verwoerdburgstad exchange area

See note 2.

29

Voortrekkerhoogte exchange area

See note 3.

25

Waterkloof exchange area

See note 3.

40

Willows exchange area

See note 2.

Note 1

In my reply to Question No 495 on 15 October 1987, it was indicated that the commissioning of the exchanges at Akasia and Doornpoort was expected during the second half of 1989 and that of the Lyttelton exchange during the first half of 1989. Present indications are, however, that the relative projects will now be completed earlier.

Note 2

After completion of a cable work which will be undertaken during the current financial year.

Note 3

Sufficient telephone numbers are available. Service will be provided after completion of a cable work which will be undertaken during the 1988/89 financial year.

(b) (as at 12 February 1988)

(i)

(ii)

(iii)

79

Brooklyn

A sufficient number of boxes have or will become available at Lynn East, Sinoville and Sunnyside and the backlog will be eliminated soon. No vacant boxes are available at Monument Park and the hired accommodation of the office does not lend itself to the installation of additional boxes. In the case of the following offices, boxes have become available for allocation and the backlog will be reduced by the numbers indicated shortly:

24

Groenkloof

72

Lynn East

27

Monument Park

40

Onderstepoort

250

Sinoville

Brooklyn — 32

175

Sunnyside

Groenkloof — 10

51

Totiusdal

Onderstepoort — 25

31

Valhalla

Totiusdal — 14

Valhalla — 15

Owing to the size and layout of the accommodation of these offices, a sufficient number of boxes unfortunately cannot be installed.
Internal Security Act: persons charged with offences 64. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) How many persons were charged in 1987 with offences under the Internal Security Act, No 74 of 1982;
  2. (2) how many of them (a) were (i) released without trial, (ii) acquitted and (iii) convicted of lesser offences in that year and (b) were still on trial or awaiting trial as at the latest specified date for which figures are available;
  3. (3) for what period was each person detained before being charged or released?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) 81 persons.
  2. (2)
    1. (a)
      1. (i) None
      2. (ii) 2 persons
      3. (iii) 2 persons
    2. (b) 71 persons on 10 February 1988.
  3. (3)
    1 person for 16 days
    1 person for 66 days
    2 persons for 67 days
    1 person for 70 days
    1 person for 74 days
    1 person for 80 days
    1 person for 81 days
    1 person for 82 days
    2 persons for 85 days
    5 persons for 90 days
    2 persons for 91 days
    1 person for 97 days
    2 persons for 106 days
    4 persons for 132 days
    1 person for 139 days
    1 person for 143 days
    2 persons for 145 days
    3 persons for 147 days
    2 persons for 152 days
    1 person for 159 days
    2 persons for 166 days
    2 persons for 170 days
    1 person for 173 days
    1 person for 174 days
    1 person for 175 days
    1 person for 177 days
    1 person for 178 days
    17 persons for 179 days
    1 person for 180 days
    3 persons for 183 days
    2 persons for 192 days
    1 person for 208 days
    1 person for 215 days
    1 person for 217 days
    1 person for 226 days
    1 person for 228 days
    1 person for 237 days
    2 persons for 270 days
    1 person for 307 days
    2 persons for 311 days
    3 persons for 321 days
 Women approaching full-term pregnancy detained 65. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether any women approaching fullterm pregnancy were being detained in police station cells in terms of (a) emergency regulations and (b) the Internal Security Act, No 74 of 1982, as at the latest specified date for which information is available; if so, (i) how many and (ii) what arrangements have been made to care for these women (aa) during their pregnancy and (bb) when their babies are delivered;
  2. (2) how many babies were born to women detained in terms of emergency regulations and the Internal Security Act during the latest specified 12-month period for which information is available;
  3. (3) what is the policy of the South African Police with regard to the release of female detainees who are pregnant?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) Yes
      1. (i) One female on 19 February 1988.
      2. (ii)
        1. (aa) She is visited every 30 minutes and attends an antenatal clinic for medical examination and treatment if necessary, every week.
        2. (bb) She will timeously be taken to the maternity ward of a hospital.
    2. (b) None
      1. (i) and (ii) Fall away.
  2. (2) One up until 19 February 1988.
  3. (3) The South African Police has no fixed policy in this regard. However, in view of the circumstances, pregnant women in detention are treated humanely and with the necessary respect. In eah case the merits of the detention are thoroughly considered and continued detention is authorised only in exceptional instances.
 Mossel Bay: action taken against freelance photographer 91. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether any member of the South African Police or the Security Branch took any action in Mossel Bay in January 1988 against a freelance photographer, whose name has been furnished to the Police for the purpose of the Minister’s reply; if so, (a) what is the name of this person, (b) what is the (i) rank of and (ii) position held by the policeman concerned, (c) what action did this policeman take, (d) in terms of what statutory provision was this action taken and (e) for what alleged offences was it considered necessary to take this action;
  2. (2) whether any complaints have been laid against this policeman as a result of the incident; if so, (a) what complaints, (b) when and (c) what action has been taken as a result;
  3. (3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) Yes
    1. (a) the name furnished by the honourable member
    2. (b) (i) and (ii) A lieutenant of the Security Branch
    3. (c) to (e) The officer investigated the person’s possible involvement in the boycott action against the Diaz Festival. On the grounds of this investigation, in terms of Regulation 7(3) of the Emergency Regulations issued under the Public Safety Act 1953 (Act 3 of 1953) and promulgated in Government Gazette 10771 dated 11 June 1987, he ordered the person to leave the area.
  2. (2) No
    1. (a) to (c) Fall away.
  3. (3) No.
 Nelspruit: persons detained 104. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether any persons were detained at police stations in the Nelspruit police district in 1987 on suspicion of being illegal immigrants; if so, (a) how many and (b) for what specified period was each detained;
  2. (2) whether any of these persons were in possession of South African identity documents when detained; if so, how many;
  3. (3) whether any other steps were taken in respect of these persons; if so, what steps?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) Yes
    1. (a) 12 164 persons
    2. (b) The work involved in compiling this information is voluminous and timeconsuming, therefore, it is not practically feasible to furnish the information.
  2. (2) Yes — 706 persons
  3. (3) Yes. The persons mainly entered the Eastern Transvaal area illegally from Mozambique to find a better refuge. The control over these aliens resort with the Department of Internal Affairs who are responsible for their further handling. I am therefore not prepared to furnish information about the further steps that were taken.
 Contraventions of Aliens Act: persons arrested 110. Mr S S VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

How many Black persons were arrested by members of the South African Police in 1987 for contraventions in terms of the Aliens Act, No 1 of 1937?

 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

3 456 persons of all races.

Note: The South African Police do not keep record of the race of persons charged with these offences, therefore, the total number of persons arrested is supplied.

 Illegal immigrants/prohibited persons: detained 111. Mr S S VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) (a) How many suspected (i) illegal immigrants and (ii) prohibited persons were being detained in police stations in the Republic as at the latest specified date for which figures are available, (b) in terms of what statutory provisions were they being detained in each case, (c) how long had each been in detention and (d) in which police stations were they being detained;
  2. (2) whether any persons being detained as suspected illegal immigrants in 1987 admitted that they were in the country illegally; if so (a) how many, (b) how long had each been detained when signing an admission to the effect that he was an illegal immigrant, (c) of which countries were they citizens in each case and (d) where had each been detained while his case was being investigated?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1)
    1. (a)
      1. (i) 2 658 persons and
      2. (ii) 1 548 persons on 10 February 1988.
    2. (b) Contravening various sections of the Admission of Persons to the Republic Regulations Act, 1972 (Act 59 of 1972) and the Aliens Act, 1937 (Act 1 of 1937).
    3. (c) and (d) The work involved in compiling this information country-wide is voluminous and time-consuming, therefore, it is not practically feasible to furnish the information.
  2. (2) Yes
    1. (a) 20 726 persons
    2. (b) Immediately after detention — 20 513 persons
      6 persons after 2 days
      128 persons after 14 days
      79 persons after 30 days
    3. (c) Mozambique
      Zimbabwe
      Swaziland
      Botswana
      Malawi
      Lesotho
      Zambia
      Portugal
      Transkei
      Netherlands
    4. (d) At several police stations, countrywide.
 Adults/juveniles shot and killed/wounded by SAP 123. Mr S S VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) How many (a) adults and (b) juveniles in each race group were shot and (i) killed or (ii) wounded by the South African Police in the execution of their duties in 1987;
  2. (2) how many persons in each category were (a) killed and (b) wounded while attempting to escape arrest?
 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

(1)

(a)

(b)

(i)

(ii)

(i)

(ii)

Whites

5

4

—

10

Coloureds

44

47

8

34

Blacks

305

408

37

117

Asians

1

3

—

—

355

462

45

161

(2)

(a)

(b)

(i)

(ii)

(i)

(ii)

Whites

2

3

—

—

Coloureds

14

34

7

8

Blacks

153

228

9

15

Asians

—

—

—

—

169

265

16

23

Note: These statistics include deaths and woundings with regard to unrest-related incidents because it is not always possible to separate unrest-related and non-unrestrelated deaths and woundings.

 Police vehicles involved in accidents 126. Mr S S VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

Whether any police vehicles were involved in accidents in 1987; if so, (a) how many and (b) what was the total cost to the State of such accidents?

 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

Yes

  1. (a) 6 206 vehicles
  2. (b) R4 079 504,38 of which an amount of R553 684,12 was claimed from third parties and members of the South African Police. The total expenditure for the State thus far amounts to R3 525 826,26.

Note: Because all calculations in respect of damages to vehicles and the determining of responsibility for damages in each case, coupled with civil actions which might follow, are not yet completed, the actual and ultimate damages for the State will be a lower amount which cannot be determined at this stage.

I wish to point out to the honourable member that during 1987 the South African Police covered 434,2 million kilometres with motor vehicles. This represents an average of 70 000 accident-free kilometres for every accident that occurred.

 Self-governing territories/border areas: new employment opportunities for Blacks 177. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Education and Development Aid:

(a) How many new employment opportunities were created for Blacks in each employment sector in the self-governing territories and border areas (i) by development corporations and other statutory bodies and (ii) through investment by (aa) South African and (bb) overseas companies in the 1986/87 financial year and (b) what was the cost per employment opportunity created in each of these sectors?

 The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND DEVELOPMENT AID:

Self-governing territory/Statutory bodies*

Commerce, Industries Services and housing

Small Industries

Mining

Agriculture Transport

Other

Gazankulu (a)(i)

—

227

—

—

120

—

140

(a)(ii)(aa)

—

227

—

—

120

—

140

(a)(ii)(bb)

—

—

—

—

—

—

—

(b)

—

R12 220

—

—

R6602

—

R6002

KaNgwane (a)(i)

—

395

—

—

478

—

—

(a)(ii)(aa)

—

395

—

—

478

—

—

(a)(ii)(bb)

—

—

—

—

—

—

—

(b)

—

R7 039

—

—

R4 621

—

—

KwaNdebele (a)(i)

2 750

1 900

200

—

500

—

135

(a)(ii)(aa)

2 750

1 200

200

—

500

—

135

(a)(ii)(bb)

—

700

—

—

—

—

—

(b)

R9 300

R7 700

R9 000

—

R18 0003

R6 700

KwaZulu (a)(i)

298

4 519

275

3 131

70

(a)(ii)(aa)

298

1

275

—

3 131

70

—

(a)(ii)(bb)

—

1

—

—

—

—

—

(b)

R21 769

R6 393

R4 981

—

R1 064

R1 100

—

Lebowa (a)(i)

—

—

128

42

175

—

—

(a)(ii)(aa)

—

—

128

42

175

—

—

(a)(ii)(bb)

—

—

—

—

—

—

—

(b)

—

—

R1 075

R2 408

R28 5643

—

—

Qwaqwa (a)(i)

210

9 180

320

—

620

—

(a)(ii)(aa)

210

9 180

320

—

620

—

—

(a)(ii)(bb)

—

—

—

—

—

—

—

(b)

R21 298

R6 200

R6 200

—

R13 097

—

—

S.T.K. (a)(i)

50

5 942

20

1 300

(a)(n)(aa)

50

3 962

20

—

1 300

—

—

(a)(ii)(bb)

—

1 980

—

—

—

—

—

(b)

1

R8 5802

1

—

R10 961

—

—

1. Not available as yet.

2. Only average figures are available.

3. Include investments in preparation of the settlement of commercial farmers as well as in long-term crops that will only after a few years create permanent job opportunities.

*Information with regard to border areas are not included.

 Tear-gas used against detainees 198. Mr S S VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

Whether tear-gas was used against detainees in any police cells in 1987; if so, (a) at what police cells, (b) on what dates, (c) why, (d) what were the circumstances surrounding each of these incidents, (e) how many detainees were involved in each case and (f) in respect of what date is this information furnished?

 The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

Yes.

  1. (a) At two police stations in the Republic.
  2. (b) 1 March and 13 November 1987.
  3. (c) to (e) In both instances, teargas aerosol cans were used to restrain awaiting trial prisoners, who fought among themselves, with minimum force. In doing so serious injuries were prevented.
  4. (f) 1 January until 31 December 1987.
 Black persons: applications for pensions granted 220. Mr D J N MALCOMESS

asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:

(a) How many applications for pensions for Black persons were granted by the Cape Provincial Administration in December 1987 and January 1988, respectively, (b) when was each of the applications received initially and (c) on what dates were they granted, in each case?

 The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:
  1. (a) December 890 January 2 104
  2. (b) and (c) Not available.
 New public/private telephones installed 321. Mr J B DE R VAN GEND

asked the Minister of Communications:

  1. (1) How many new (a) public and (b) private telephones were installed in 1987 in Langa, Guguletu, Nyanga and Khayelitsha, respectively;
  2. (2) how many (a) public and (b) private telephones were there in each of these townships as at 31 December 1987?
 The MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS:

(1)

(a)

(b)

Langa

1

231,

Guguletu

nil

210,

Nyanga

nil

167,

Khayelitsha

4

22; and

(2)

(a)

(b)

Langa

19

1 413,

Guguletu

41

2 913,

Nyanga

22

1 049,

Khayelitsha

14

72.

Note: In those cases where the number of telephone services on 31 December 1987 is lower than those for 31 December 1986 furnished in reply to Question No. 11 by Mr A B Widman on 13 February 1987, the decrease is ascribed to dismantlements. As far as Guguletu is concerned, it is also the case that 10 call offices in the industrial area were not included in the figure for 31 December 1986 furnished in the reply to the aforementioned question.

 Vacant posts 357. Mr J B DE R VAN GEND

asked the Minister of Communications:

(a) How many posts on the establishment of his Department were vacant as at 31 December 1987 and (b) what are the designations of these posts?

 The MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS:
  1. (a) 4 630 — which figure represents the difference between the total authorized establishment and the number of persons who occupy posts on the fixed establishment; and
  2. (b) Data Officer, Typist, Senior Architect, Assistant Architect, Assistant Legal Adviser, Language Officer, Dealer, Statistician, Human Resources Officer, Assistant Human Resources Officer, Industrial Social Worker, Psychometrist, Psychologist, Assistant Marketing Manager, Marketing Officer, Design Artist, Senior Industrial Journalist, Internal Auditor, Assistant Quantity Surveyor, Cost Investigation Officer, Chief Photographer, Photographer, Lecturer, Assistant Director Technical, Technician, Draughtsman, Works Inspector, Inspector of Uniformed Staff, Exchange Superintendent, Instructor, Telcom Electrician/-mechanic, Telcom Assistant, Postman, Telephonist, Assistant Printer, Driver, Senior Housekeeper, Caretaker, Foreman, Cook, Security Officer, Waiter, General Assistant, Security Assistant and Catering Assistant.
 Telephone section: technical assistants/technicians employed 489. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Communications:

(a) How many (i) technical assistants and (ii) technicians were employed in the telephone section of his Department in each of the latest specified five financial years for which information is available and (b) how many of these (i) technical assistants and (ii) technicians were (aa) White, (bb) Coloured, (cc) Indian and (dd) Black?

 The MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS:

1983

1984

1985

1986

1987

(a)

(i)

5 270

5 347

5 306

5 238

5 232

(ii)

5 079

5 192

5 452

6 151

6 871

(b)

(i)

(aa)

3 852

3 868

3 885

3 852

3 822

(bb)

387

402

397

384

381

(cc)

210

228

177

178

178

(dd)

821

849

847

824

851

(ii)

(aa)

4 863

4 941

5 099

5 551

6 138

(bb)

80

102

139

251

304

(cc)

99

107

128

189

224

(dd)

37

42

86

160

205

Notes: (1) The above-mentioned figures reflect the position as at 31 March each year.

(2) As the rank “technical assistant” is not used in the Post Office, the figures reflected against items (a)(i) and (b)(i) are in respect of officials occupying the rank of “telcom assistant”. The figures do not include “telcom electricians” and “telcom mechanics”.

 Eastern Cape: applications to purchase houses 553. Mr D J N MALCOMESS

asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:

(a) How many persons in each specified Black township in the Eastern Cape lodged applications to purchase houses in 1987, (b) how many of these applications had been granted as at the latest specified date for which figures are available and (c) (i) what total number of houses had been purchased in each of these townships and (ii) in respect of what date is this information furnished?

 The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:

(a)

(b)

Date

(c)

(i)

(ii)

Aliwal North

62

62

12/87

62

12/87

Cathcart

13

13

„

13

„

Fort

Beaufort

20

20

„

20

„

King William’s Town

10

10

„

10

„

Komga

10

10

„

10

„

East London

39

39

„

39

„

Port

Elizabeth

1 942

1 942

„

1 942

„

Queenstown

76

76

„

76

„
Alexandra Township: applications for 99-year leases 581. Mr D J DALLING

asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:

(a) How many persons in Alexandra Township applied in each year for 99-year leases from the inception of the leasehold scheme to 31 December 1987 and (b) how many of these applications had been granted as at the latest specified date for which figures are available?

 The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:
  1. (a)
    1982 — 9
    1983 —19
    1984 — 57
    1985 — 47
    1986 — 21
    1987— 66
  2. (b) 1982 — 9
    1983 —19
    1984 — 57
    1985 — 47
    1986 — 21
    1987— 63
 Alexandra Township: rental payments in arrears 582. Mr D J DALLING

asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:

  1. (1) Whether any families living in Alexandra Township, Johannesburg, are in arrears with rental payments; if so, (a) how many families are (i) in arrears and (ii) up to date with their rental payments and (b) what is the extent of the arrears in rental payments in this township;
  2. (2) in respect of what date is this information furnished?
 The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:
  1. (1) Yes.
    1. (a)
      1. (i) 15 000
      2. (ii) 250
    2. (b) R2 734 099
  2. (2) 31 December 1987.
 Sandton: applications by non-Whites to occupy/own residential property 583. Mr D J DALLING

asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:

  1. (1) How many applications were received during the period 1 June 1987 to the latest specified date for which information is available, from (a) Coloured, (b) Indian and (c) Black persons to (i) occupy and (ii) own residential property in areas proclaimed for occupation by White persons in Sandton;
  2. (2) how many such applications (a) had been (i) granted and (ii) refused and (b) were pending as at the above date?
 The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:

Period 1 June 1987 to 31 December 1987.

(1)

(a) Coloured

—

(b) Indians

1

(c)

Blacks

—

(i) None

(ii) Acquisition coloureds Indians Blacks

—

1

—

(2)

(a)

(i) None.

(ii) Refused coloureds

Indians

Blacks

—

1

—

(b) None.

Christmas cards sent out 598. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Communications:

  1. (1) Whether (a) he and/or (b) his Department sent out Christmas cards in 1987; if so, (i) what total number of cards was printed, (ii) to whom were they sent, (iii) what was the total cost of producing and distributing these cards, and (iv) who was responsible for printing them, in each case;
  2. (2) whether postage stamps were used to send out these Christmas cards; if not, how were they distributed?
 The MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS:
  1. (1) (a) and (b) Yes;
    1. (i) 44 940
    2. (ii) The large majority to selected investors in the Post Office Savings Bank as part of our endeavours to promote the corporate image of the Department and the rest as a reciprocal gesture mainly to politicians, senior officials of the Post Office and other Government Departments, editors of newspapers, banks, large users of the Post Office, suppliers of telecommunication equipment, private consultants and prominent persons in the private sector,
    3. (iii) R6 734,88 (cost of printing and envelopes)
    4. (iv) Departmental printing works
  2. (2) No, they were distributed as official mail.
 Sar-travel: scheduled coach tours for tourists 660. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

  1. (1) Whether Sar-travel operates any scheduled coach tours for tourists; if so,
  2. (2) whether the financial results of this division are assessed separately from those of other divisions of South African Transport Serices; if not, how are they assessed; if so, what (a) was the (i) profit or (ii) loss of this division in the 1987/88 financial year and (b) is the projected (i) profit or (ii) loss for the 1988/89 financial year?
 The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:
  1. (1) Yes.
  2. (2) The Honourable Member’s attention is directed to the documents which were tabled during the introduction of the South African Transport Services Appropriation Bill, 1988. Particulars of these services’ financial results are contained therein.
 Botshabelo: hospitals 673. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Education and Development Aid:

Whether there are any hospitals in Botshabelo; if not, (a) why not and (b) where is the nearest hospital; if so, (i) how many of each specified kind of hospital, (ii) how many (aa) beds, (bb) doctors and (cc) nurses are there in respect of each of these hospitals and (iii) who is responsible for paramedical services in this area?

 The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND DEVELOPMENT AID:

Yes.

  1. (i) One General Hospital.
  2. (ii)
    1. (aa) 61.
    2. (bb) 5 full-time and 7 part-time.
    3. (cc) 107
  3. (iii) The hospital itself.
 Mooinooi: automatizing of telephone service 680. Mr A GERBER

asked the Minister of Communications: t

Whether his Department intends automatizing the telephone service at Mooinooi; if not, why not; if so, when?

 The MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS:

Yes, but owing to financial and other restraints, it was unfortunately not possible to include the Mooinooi exchange in an automation programme stretching up to and including the 1989/90 financial year. At this stage it is also not possible to indicate when this exchange will be accorded its turn.

 Five most junior posts: salary scales 708. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Communications:

(a) What are the salary scales attached to each of the five most junior posts in his Department, (b) how many of these posts are filled by Whites, Coloureds, Indians and Blacks, respectively, and (c) in respect of what date is this information furnished?

 The MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS:

(a)

(1)

*R4 500 X 450 – 5 400 X 480 – 5 800//– 6 360 X 480 – 7 800

(General Assistant 1)

(Catering Assistant 1)

(Security Assistant 1)

(2)

R6 150 X 510 – 8 190 X 660 – 8 850

(Senior Housekeeper)

(3)

*R4 950 X 450 – 5 400 X 480 – 7 800//– 8 460 X 660 – 9 120

(General Assistant 2)

(Catering Assistant 2)

(Security Assistant 2)

(Waiter/Waitress)

(4)

R5 550 X 480 – 6 030 X 510 – 8 070 X 660 –

9 390 (Lithographic Operator)

(5)

R5 400 X 480 – 7 800 X 660 – 9 120 X 690 –

11 880 (Telcom Assistant)

*Officials must meet certain service and merit requirements to progress beyond the barrier (//-) on the appropriate salary scale.

Whites

Coloureds

Indians

Blacks

(b)

780

6 375

113

19 379 (General Assistant 1)

—

81

—

232 (Catering Assistant 1)

72

68

—

246 (Security Assistant 1)

6

—

—

— (Senior Housekeeper)

235

995

41

1 832 (General Assistant 2)

1

1

—

2 (Catering Assistant 2)

25

17

—

28 (Security Assistant 2)

—

2

—

34 (Waiter/Waitress)

—

—

—

4 (Lithographic Operator)

1 713

227

110

545 (Telcom Assistant)

2 832

7 766

264

22 302 (Total)

(c) 31 December 1987.
Employees of SATS: financial incentive/bonus systems 742. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

Whether there are any financial incentive or bonus systems for employees in the South African Transport Services; if not, why not; if so, (a) how many and (b) what are the relevant details?

 The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:

Yes.

(a)

13

(b)

SCHEME

Bonuswork Agreement

Number One

APPLICABLE TO

Artisans and related grades on manufacturing, workshop maintenance and construction work as well as certain personnel employed in ticket printing.

Bonuswork Agreement

Number Two

Bonuswork Agreement

Number Three

Productivity Incentive Scheme:

Airways Department

Wage Incentive Scheme: Diesel and Steam Locomotive Sheds

Artisans and related grades on maintenance and repair work in the different Road Transport Workshops. Artisans and related grades in the Civil Engineering Plant Maintenance depots.

Aviation artisans and related grades concerned with the maintenance and servicing of aircraft.

Artisans and related grades in diesel and steam locomotive sheds responsible for the maintenance of locomotives.

Incentive Scheme: Cargo Handling in Harbours

Incentive Scheme: Harbour Container Terminals

Incentive Scheme: Dredgers

Cartage Bonuswork System

Personnel concerned with the handling of conventional cargo in harbours.

Personnel handling containers in harbours.

Dredger crews on certain dredgers.

Drivers and assistants of cartage vehicles in urban areas.

Incentive Scheme: Data Capturing Machines

Wage Incentive Scheme: Artisans on coach work in electric running sheds

Typists (data capturing) operating data and other accounting machines.

Artisans responsible for the maintenance of suburban passenger coaches in electric running sheds.

The following wage incentive schemes have been introduced on a trial basis:

Mechanical Maintenance

Personnel

Wage Incentive Scheme for Earthmoving gangs

Artisans and related grades employed on maintenance of mechnical plant and apparatus.

Personnel employed on earthmoving work.
Post of private secretary: restrictions 780. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

Whether the appointment of persons to the post of private secretary in the South African Transport Services is subject to any restrictions in regard to period of service; if so, what are the relevant details; if not, (a) what procedure is followed in (i) assessing such officials for promotion purposes and (ii) granting them promotion and (b) what are their prospects for promotion?

 The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:

No.

  1. (a)
    1. (i) The appointment of a person to the post of private secretary is a personal choice.
    2. (ii) On merit.
  2. (b) As and when vacancies occur.
 Overseas loans guaranteed by South African Government 800. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Education and Development Aid:

  1. (1) (a) What overseas loans were guaranteed by the South African Government on behalf of each of the self-governing territories during the latest specified period of 10 years for which information is available and (b) what were the conditions of repayment in each case;
  2. (2) whether any of these loans have been repaid; if so, (a) how many of these loans have been repaid by (i) South Africa in terms of guarantees given by the South African Government and (ii) these states themselves and (b) in respect of what date is this information furnished?
 The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND DEVELOPMENT AID:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) None.
    2. (b) Falls away.
  2. (2) Falls away.

Own Affairs:

Printing contracts awarded to two companies 89. Mr D J DALLING

asked the Minister of Agriculture and Water Supply:

  1. (1) Whether his Department awarded any printing contracts in 1987 to two companies, the names of which have been furnished to the Commission for Administration for the purpose of the Minister’s reply, or to their associated companies and printing operations; if so, (a) in respect of what publications or printed matter, (b) how many copies of each publication or item were ordered from each company and (c) what are the names of the companies concerned;
  2. (2) whether these contracts were put out to tender; if not, (a) why not and (b) what was the total amount paid by his Department in respect of each of these contracts; if so, what was the (i) tender price originally accepted, and (ii) total amount paid out, in respect of each contract;
  3. (3) whether his Department subsidizes any publications published by the above companies; if so, (a) which publications and (b) (i) why, and (ii) what is the amount of the subsidy, in each case;
  4. (4) what total amount was spent by his Department in 1987 on printing and publishing involving (a) the above companies and (b) any other specified companies?
 The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND WATER SUPPLY:
  1. (1) No
    1. (a), (b) and (c) fall away.
  2. (2) (a), (b) (i) and (b) (ii) fall away.
  3. (3) No
    1. (a), (b) (i) and (b) (ii) fall away.
  4. (4) (a) and (b) fall away.
 Extension officers left/joined employ 98. Mr R W HARDINGHAM

asked the Minister of Agriculture and Water Supply:

How many extension officers (a) left the employ of, and (b) joined, his Department in 1987?

 The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND WATER SUPPLY:
  1. (a) 9
  2. (b) 9.
 Extension officers: shortage 99. Mr R W HARDINGHAM

asked the Minister of Agriculture and Water Supply:

Whether there is a shortage of extension officers in his Department; if so, what is the extent of this shortage?

 The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND WATER SUPPLY:

Yes, 52 posts of Agricultural Extension Officer are vacant.

 HOUSE OF DELEGATES

†Indicates translated version.

For oral reply:

Own Affairs:

Temporary teachers: payment at end of each month *1. Mr P I DEVAN

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

  1. (1) Whether it is the policy of his Department to pay temporary teachers at the end of each month; if not, why not; if so,
  2. (2) whether any temporary teachers were not paid regularly at the end of each month; if so, (a) why not and (b) what was the longest period for which the payment of temporary teachers was delayed;
  3. (3) whether he has taken any steps to prevent such delays in future; if so, (a) what steps and (b) when?
 The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (1) Yes
  2. (2) No
    1. (a) Falls away
    2. (b) Falls away
  3. (3) (a) and (b) Fall away.
 Mr P I DEVAN:

Mr Chairman, arising out of the reply given by the hon the Minister of Education and Culture, may I ask the hon the Minister whether he is aware whether there is any other category of teachers whose salaries have been delayed for months?

 The MINISTER:

No, I am not aware of such a position.

 Mr P T POOVALINGAM:

Mr Chairman, further arising out of that reply, would the hon the Minister be prepared to inquire from his department to ascertain whether a particular teacher, who resides in Tongaat and who was required to assist a particular political party to canvass for votes in the election campaign of November 1987, and whose duty was to have terminated on 30 November 1987, was in fat paid for the December-January period?

 The MINISTER:

Mr Chairman, I will certainly look into that matter.

 Meals at schools *2. Mr K CHETTY

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

  1. (1) Whether his Department intends providing meals at schools falling under his control; if not, why not; if so, when;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
 The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (1) No. This is not a function of my Department.
  2. (2) No.
 Mr Y MOOLLA:

Mr Chairman, arising out of that reply, the hon the Minister says that this is not a function of his department. Could he then perhaps indicate which department’s function this is?

 The MINISTER:

Mr Chairman, that is the function of my colleague, the Minister of Health Services and Welfare.

 Mr Y MOOLLA:

Mr Chairman, further arising out of that reply, has the hon the Minister taken any steps to get his colleague’s department to introduce this? If it has been introduced, where have such schemes in fact been introduced?

 The MINISTER:

Mr Chairman, I did so last year, but this year I have not as yet done so.

 Teacher absenteeism: survey *3. Mr P I DEVAN

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

  1. (1) Whether his Department has conducted a survey on teacher absenteeism; if not, why not; if so, (a) when and (b) what were the findings;
  2. (2) whether any steps are to be taken to reduce teacher absenteeism at schools; if not, why not; if so, what steps are contemplated;
  3. (3) whether there was an improvement in school attendance by teachers in 1987 in comparison with 1986; if so, to what extent;
  4. (4) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
 The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (1) No.
    It is an enormous task for which manpower is not available.
    1. (a) and (b) Fall away.
  2. (2) Yes
    Letters are being addressed to educators with poor leave records on a continuous basis drawing their attention to the consequence of their absenteeism.
  3. (3) It is not possible to give an indication in this regard as a survey has not yet been done.
  4. (4) No.
 Mr P I DEVAN:

Mr Chairman, arising out of that reply, the question seems to be an alarming one. Has the hon the Minister any intention of expediting the survey on this issue?

 The MINISTER:

Mr Chairman, I think it is advisable to look into this very seriously.

 Mr J V IYMAN:

Mr Chairman, further arising out of that reply, I should like the hon the Minister to tell this House about the question of teacher absenteeism which was debated in this House and in view of the fact that in a particular by-election teachers were seen by the school children’s parents …

 The CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE:

Order! Has the hon member a question?

 Mr J V IYMAN:

Yes, Mr Chairman.

 The CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE:

Will the hon member then please put it.

 Mr J V IYMAN:

Why did the hon the Minister not pay attention to what was said in this House and why did he not conduct that survey? Why is he waiting?

 The MINISTER:

Mr Chairman, with respect, I would like to tell the hon member that there is a difference between leave and absenteeism. However, it certainly will be looked into.

 Housing Development Board: names of members *4. Mr Y MOOLLA

asked the Minister of Housing:

  1. (1) What are the names of the members serving on the Housing Development Board referred to in section 2 of the Housing Development Act (House of Delegates), No 4 of 1987;
  2. (2) whether this board has an executive committee; if so, what are the names of the members of the executive committee;
  3. (3) whether a certain person, whose name has been furnished to the Minister’s Department for the purpose of his reply, is a member of this executive committee ; if so, (a) how many executive meetings has he attended and (b) (i) where and (ii) when were these meetings held?
 The MINISTER OF HOUSING:
  1. (1)
    Mr W J vd M Marais
    Mr C H Kotzé
    Mr R E Hudson-Reed
    Mr R Jagath
    Mr J G Brand
    Dr D S Rajah
  2. (2) Yes
    Mr W J vd M Marais
    Mr C H Kotzé
    Mr R E Hudson-Reed
    Mr R Jagath
  3. (3) Yes
    1. (a) 10
    2. (b) (i) Malgate Building, 72 Stanger Street, Durband (ii) 14 May 1987 Malgate Building, 72 Stanger Street, Durban 8 June 1987
      Malgate Building, 72 Stanger Street, Durban 6 July 1987
      Malgate Building, 72 Stanger Street, Durban 21 October 1987
      Malgate Building, 72 Stanger Street, Durban 3 November 1987
      Malgate Building, 72 Stanger Street, Durban 18 November 1987
      Malgate Building, 72 Stanger Street, Durban 1 December 1987
      Malgate Building, 72 Stanger Street, Durban 6 January 1988
      Malgate Building, 72 Stanger Street, Durban 17 February 1988
      Malgate Building, 72 Stanger Street, Durban 2 March 1988
 Replacement of Springfield College of Education: feasibility study *5. Mr M RAJAB

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

  1. (1) Whether, with reference to his reply to Question No 1 on 11 June 1987, the feasibility study undertaken to plan and provide a smaller but modern facility to replace the present Springfield College of Education has been completed; if not, (a) why not and (b) when is it expected to be completed; if so,
  2. (2) whether a report on the matter has been submitted to his Department; if not, why not; if so, (a) what was (i) the purport of the report and (ii) his Department’s response thereto and (b) what is the estimated total cost of the new college;
  3. (3) whether the Edgewood College of Education has been considered as an alternative; if not, why not; if so, with what result?
 The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (1) No.
    1. (a) Architects and consultants are still busy with the feasibility study.
    2. (b) The feasibility study is not expected to be completed before 1989 as the provision of a new College does not enjoy a high priority at this stage.
  2. (2) Not.
    The architects and consultants are still busy with the feasibility study.
    1. (a) (i) and (ii) Fall away
    2. (b) Falls away.
  3. (3) No.
    The Edgewood College of Education falls under the control of the Administration: House of Assembly and is still being used by the Natal Education Department for Teacher Education.
 Mr M RAJAB:

Mr Chairman, arising out of the hon the Minister’s reply, may I ask him why, when a feasibility study was not done, funds were budgeted for the provision of these services in Cato Manor?

 The MINISTER:

Mr Chairman, these two factors go hand in hand. At the time that this was being budgeted for, a feasibility study had commenced.

 Mr P I DEVAN:

Mr Chairman, further arising out of the hon the Minister’s reply, may I ask him whether he really appreciates the need for an updated college of education in Durban?

 The MINISTER:

Mr Chairman, the answer is yes.

 Mr P I DEVAN:

Mr Chairman, further arising out of the hon the Minister’s reply, may I ask him why there is so much wavering and inconsistency with regard to this issue, because costs are rising by the day?

 The MINISTER:

Mr Chairman, I did say that a feasibility study was being done, and once the results of that study are made known, we shall act on them.

 Mr P I DEVAN:

Mr Chairman, I cannot see his logic. He said that he sees the need for it.

 The CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE:

Order! Does the hon member have a further supplementary question?

 Mr P I DEVAN:

Mr Chairman, I shall make a written submission in this regard.

 Mr P T POOVALINGAM:

Mr Chairman, further arising out of the hon the Minister’s reply to the hon member for Springfield with regard to the Edgewood College of Education, would the hon the Minister acknowledge being aware that the Edgewood College is not filled to capacity and that optimum use should therefore be made of that college regardless of any own affairs restrictions?

 The MINISTER:

Yes, I am aware of that and I agree that it should be used to its fullest capacity.

 Springfield College of Education: outdated/inadequate *6. Mr M RAJAB

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

With reference to his reply to Question No 1 on 11 June 1987, in what respects is the Springfield College of Education outdated and inadequate as a tertiary institution?

 The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:

Springfield College was built 40 years ago to cater for the training of primary school teachers. Subsequently the College was expanded to cater for the training of secondary school teachers as well. Over the years additions have been provided on a limited scale because of the lack of space. The recent introduction of a four year Diploma course equivalent to University status demands additional facilities which cannot be provided on the space available. These include large lecture theatres, additional laboratories, workshops and the expansion of the sports facilities and gymnasiums required for physical education.

For written reply :

Own Affairs:

Ministers of House of Delegates: telephones/ telephone jacks 17. Mr M RAJAB

asked the Minister of the Budget:

  1. (1) How many official (a) telephones and (b) telephone jacks does each specified Minister of the House of Delegates have at his
  2. (i) home in (aa) Durban and (bb) Cape Town and (ii) office in (aa) Durban and (bb) Cape Town;
  3. (2) what amount was paid for telephone services in respect of the (a) home and (b) office telephones of each specified Minister for each month from May 1987 up to and including February 1988;
  4. (3) whether his Department has a breakdown of the official and private calls made by Ministers of the House of Delegates from these telephones; if not, why not; if so, what amount was paid by each specified Minister in respect of private calls for each month from May 1987 up to and including February 1988;
  5. (4) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
 The MINISTER OF THE BUDGET:

Ministers are provided with official telephones in their offices as a matter of routine. In terms of the Guidelines for Ministers issued by the Office of the State President, the telephones at their residences are also regarded as official. No distinction is drawn between official and private calls made from any of the instruments in question. Accounts are settled by the Administration upon certification as correct by Ministers. All payments are subject to auditing by the Auditor-General and, if usage appears excessive or irregular, it can safely be assumed that queries will be raised which, if unsatisfactorily answered, will find their way to the Select Committee on Public Accounts. I am therefore not prepared to disclose details of the nature sought nor to make a statement on the matter.