House of Assembly: Vol7 - TUESDAY 15 MARCH 1988

TUESDAY, 15 MARCH 1988 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY

†Indicates translated version.

For oral reply:

General Affairs:

State President:

State Security Council: staff establishment *1. Mr C W EGLIN

asked the State President:

Whether he will furnish information on the staff establishment of the State Security Council; if not, why not; if so, what was the (a) actual and (b) authorized staff establishment of the State Security Council as at the latest specified date for which information is available?

The STATE PRESIDENT:

Yes, the permanent members of the State Security Council are specified in section 4 of the Security Intelligence and State Security Council Act, No 64 of 1972 and from time to time other members are co-opted by me as the need arises.

  1. (a) and (b)

Posts within the Secretariate of the State Security Council are filled by members seconded from various State Departments. At this stage 80 posts have been filled and the intention is not to fill many more.

Meeting at Standerton: military transport *2. Mr J H VAN DER MERWE

asked the State President:†

  1. (1) Whether he made use of military transport to attend a meeting at Standerton on 25 February 1988; if so, (a) what form of transport was used, (b) what was the total cost involved and (c) what persons accompanied him on this occasion;
  2. (2) whether the meeting concerned was a political meeting; if so, (a) of which political party and (b) by virtue of what authority may he make use of military transport for purposes of this nature?
The STATE PRESIDENT:

Mr Speaker, with your permission, I would like to give a comprehensive reply whhich I hope will settle the matter.

(1) and (2):

Since the thirties it has been customary that Heads of State and Government and members of their families use official road or air transport on all occasions where transport is required by the Head of State.

The White Train, which was specifically reserved for the use of the Head of State, has been discontinued for quite some time. Since I became Prime Minister in 1978 the cumulative savings on running and capital expenses in this regard amounted to approximately R2 million. After accepting the office of State President, I also returned the specially-equipped Boeing 737 fitted out for the use of the Head of State to the SA Transport Services. The cost involved in the use of this aeroplane amounted to more than R700 000 per annum.

As my predecessors, and in accordance with the above-mentioned convention, I use official road transport and air transport of the SA Air Force for all journeys I have to undertake. In view of ensuring the safety of the Head of State and his wife, the security forces require that this procedure be followed. The provision of helicopters and planes by the SA Air Force for this purpose also takes place as far as possible within the normal training programmes of the Air Force.

It has also always been customary for the Head of State, within reasonable limits and within his discretion, to decide which members of his family, ministers, security guards and personnel accompany him on journeys.

I have no intention of changing this practice. I am convinced that the majority of the public is in favour thereof that the Head of State is transported in a presentable and safe manner at all times, as is indeed customary in all civilised countries.

Closure of teachers’ colleges: deputation to State President *3. Mr A GERBER

asked the State President:!

  1. (1) Whether a formal or an informal deputation approached him in or about September 1987 in connection with the possible closure of the teachers’ colleges in Paarl or Wellington; if so, (a) who were the members of the deputation, (b) on whose behalf did they come to see him and (c) what was their request to him;
  2. (2) whether as a result he was directly or indirectly involved in the decision to close the Paarl Teachers’ College;
  3. (3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
†The STATE PRESIDENT:
  1. (1) to (3):

I was approached in this regard, but I indicated that the matter is an own affair in terms of the Constitution Act and that I could consequently only act on the advice of the Ministers’ Council concerned.

Bureau for State Security/State Security Council: sponsoring of certain party *4. Mr D J N MALCOMESS

asked the State President:

Whether the Bureau for State Security or the State Security Council sponsored a certain party, the name of which has been furnished to the State President’s Office for the purpose of his reply; if so, (a) why, (b) when, (c) to what extent and (d) what is the name of this party?

The STATE PRESIDENT:

(a), (b), (c) and (d)

I refer the hon member to the replies to questions on the same matter as answered by the then Prime Minister in Parliament on 6 and 9 August 1974.

I abide by the answers then supplied and have no reason to deviate from them now.

Mr D J N MALCOMESS:

Mr Speaker, arising out of the reply of the hon the State President, is he aware that during the course of last month, by means of a letter to the Financial Mail, Chief Buthelezi made the categorical statement that the Shaka Spear Party in opposition to him was sponsored by the then Bureau for State Security through their employee Francois Fouché?

The STATE PRESIDENT:

Mr Speaker, I am not aware of the statement, and in any case if the hon member has any information, he may get into touch with me on it and I shall have it investigated. That is my reply to him.

Mr D J N MALCOMESS:

I have just given the hon the State President the information.

The STATE PRESIDENT:

I cannot reply in regard to what other people say; I can only provide the hon member with the facts available to me as Head of State.

Ministers:

Question standing over from Tuesday, 8 March 1988:

Financing of cultural institutions: changes *31. Mr R M BURROWS

asked the Minister of National Education:

  1. (1) Whether any changes are to be effected by his Department in respect of the financing of cultural institutions falling under its control; if not, why not; if so, (a) what changes are envisaged in this regard and (b) when will they be effected;
  2. (2) whether any such institutions have made representations to his Department for additional funds for the 1988-89 tax year; if so, what is the nature of these representations;
  3. (3) whether his Department has initiated budget-saving measures in respect of these cultural institutions; if so, what financial restrictions have been applied;
  4. (4) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
The MINISTER OF ECONOMIC AFFAIRS AND TECHNOLOGY (for the Minister of National Education):

Answers are given regarding cultural institutions that are administered in terms of the Cultural Institutions Act (Act 29 of 1969).

  1. (1) Yes.
    1. (a) Refinement of the existing subsidy formulae.
    2. (b) Negotiations are at present in progress with a view to implementing these changes as soon as possible.
  2. (2) Yes. Additional funds have been requested in respect of current expenditure and the acquisition of fixed assets.
  3. (3) Yes. It is intended not to fund the approved formula in full. Nor has it been possible to do so for some years.
  4. (4) No.

New Questions:

Males/females awaiting execution *1. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Justice:

How many (a) males and (b) females of each race group were awaiting execution in the Republic as at the latest specified date for which information is available?

†The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:

On 14 March 1988 six Black men and one Black woman were awaiting execution while the cases of the rest were still in various stages of the post sentence process, the largest group being involved in appeals.

†Mr F J LE ROUX:

Mr Speaker, arising out of the hon the Minister’s reply, I would like to know how many people have thus far been pardoned this year.

†The MINISTER:

Mr Speaker, the answer is five persons.

Offences against security of State: life sentences *2. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Justice:

(a) How many persons are at present serving life sentences for offences against the security of the State and (b) in respect of what date is this information furnished?

†The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:
  1. (a) 21
  2. (b) 31 December 1987.
Persons under 18 years awaiting trial *3. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Justice:

How many persons under the age of 18 years were held awaiting trial in prisons on 31 December 1987?

The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:

582

[Remainder of reply laid upon the Table with leave of House]:

Section 29 of the Prisons Act, 1959 (Act 8 of 1959) stipulates inter alia that a person under the age of eighteen years who is accused of having committed an offence shall, before his conviction, not be detained in a prison unless his detention is necessary and no suitable place of detention mentioned in the Child Care Act is available for his detention. In deciding as to the suitability of the place of detention, the nature of the offence with which a person is charged is taken into account, as well as age, sex, character, etc.

A juvenile who is detained in terms of this section shall not be permitted to associate with a person over the age of twenty-one years who is in custody, provided that he may be permitted to associate with such a person in custody who has been charged jointly with him, if the head of the prison is of the opinion that such association will not be detrimental to him. An awaiting trial woman under the age of eighteen years is placed in the care of a woman.

All persons awaiting trial or sentence are segregated from sentenced and other categories of unsentenced prisoners as far as possible and association between prisoners awaiting trial or sentence are restricted to a minimum in order to prevent collusion or conspiracy to defeat the ends of justice.

The honourable member is also referred to the press statements of Mr F W De Klerk, Minister of National Education and Mr S J de Beer, Deputy-Minister of Education of 15 August 1987 and 14 March 1988 respectively.

Release of Mr Govan Mbeki from jail: international press conference *4. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Deputy Minister of Information:

Whether the Bureau for Information arranged an international press conference for Mr Govan Mbeki upon his release from jail; if so, (a) at what total cost to the State and (b) on whose authority?

The DEPUTY MINISTER OF INFORMATION:

Yes, to ensure orderly coverage of this sensitive and newsworthy event.

  1. (a) No special costs were incurred.
  2. (b) On the authority of the Deputy Minister of Information with the co-operation of the relevant authorities.
Removal of Lawaaikamp community to Sandkraal *5. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:

  1. (1) Whether the removal of the Lawaaikamp community to Sandkraal has been completed; if not, when is it envisaged that this removal will be finalized;
  2. (2) whether the removal of this community was effected or is being effected on a voluntary basis; if not, (a) why not and (b) on what basis was it effected or is it being effected?
†The DEPUTY MINISTER OF DEVELOPMENT PLANNING:
  1. (1) No, the target date is 31 May 1988.
  2. (2) Yes.
    1. (a) and (b) Fall away.
Communist/Communist-aligned countries: trade relations *6. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Economic Affairs and Technology:

  1. (1) Whether the Republic maintains trade relations with Communist and Communist-aligned countries; if so,
  2. (2) whether such trade has any detrimental effects on local industries; if so, (a) what are these effects, (b) how are they justified and (c) what steps are being taken in this regard;
  3. (3) what is the Government’s policy in regard to such trade?
†The DEPUTY MINISTER OF ECONOMIC AFFAIRS AND TECHNOLOGY (Dr T G Alant) :
  1. (1) No. The Republic of South Africa does not maintain formal trade relations in the form of bilateral trade agreements or other arrangements with the countries in question.
  2. (2) No, not as far as is known.
    1. (a), (b) and (c) Fall away.
  3. (3) The Government’s policy is not to prescribe to the private sector with which countries trade may be conducted. This principle is also applied in the granting of import and export permits.
Booklet Face to Face with the ANC *7. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Defence:

  1. (1) Whether he or any member of the South African Defence Force was in any way involved in the compilation, printing and/ or distribution of a booklet entitled “Face to Face with the ANC”; if so, (a) who, (b) what was the nature of the involvement, (c) how many copies of this booklet were produced, (d) to whom were copies of the booklet sent and (e) what was the total cost of this involvement;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
†The DEPUTY MINISTER OF DEFENCE:
  1. (1) Yes.
    1. (a) An officer of the South African Defence Force.
    2. (b) Fully involved in the compiling and printing of the booklet.
    3. (c) 60 150
    4. (d) The booklet was not distributed.
    5. (e) The cost was included in the amount referred to in my reply to question number of 10 of 23 February 1988.
  2. (2) The original booklet contained certain shortcomings, as a result of which it was not distributed. After the shortcomings had been rectified, it was distributed under the title “ANC — The Inside Story”.
*8. Mr T Langley

— Law and Order.†

[Reply standing over.]

Members: meeting attended at Standerton *9. Mr J H VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Law and Order:†

  1. (1) Whether any members of the South African Police attended a meeting a Standerton on 25 February 1988, further particulars of which have been furnished to the Police for the purpose of the Minister’s reply; if so, how many;
  2. (2) whether the Police made use of any official vehicles on this occasion; if so, what was the total cost involved?
†The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) Yes. An adequate number of members to deal with the given situation.
  2. (2) Yes. The cost involved cannot be ascertained, because these duties were performed during normal police activities.
Uprising against town council of Lekoa *10. Mr J H VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning†

  1. (1) Whether an uprising against the town council of Lekoa occurred recently; if so, (a)(i) who rose up against the town council and (ii) when and (b) what were the circumstances surrounding the incident;
  2. (2) whether any action was taken against the persons concerned; if not, why not; if so, (a) when and (b) what was the nature of this action?
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF DEVELOPMENT PLANNING:

No uprising occurred recently against the City Council of Lekoa.

*11. Prof N J J Olivier

— Foreign Affairs.

[Withdrawn.]

*12. Prof N J J Olivier

— Foreign Affairs.

[Withdrawn.]

Special constables: alteration of salary scales *13. Mr R M BURROWS

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether the salary scales of special constables have been altered at any time since the introduction of the system of special constables; if so, (a) why and (b) what alterations were effected;
  2. (2) whether he will furnish the House with the salary scales for special constables; if not, why not?
The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) No
    1. (a) and (b) Fall away.
  2. (2) Yes. Special constables are occasional workers who receive a remuneration of R13.00 per day for each day they perform duty. In addition, they are granted eight paid rest-days per month.
Scheme for buying back service in Government Service Pension Fund: alterations *14. Mr R M BURROWS

asked the Minister of National Health and Population Development:

  1. (1) Whether any alterations have been effected since 21 September 1987 to the scheme for the buying back of service in the Government Service Pension Fund; if so, (a) what alterations and (b) what effect will these alterations have on the (i) buyback scheme and (ii) debt position of the Government Service Pension Fund;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
The MINISTER OF NATIONAL HEALTH AND POPULATION DEVELOPMENT:
  1. (1) Yes.
    1. (a) Amendment of the formula for the calculation of the cost of buying back service.
    2. (b)
      1. (i) An increase in the cost of buying back service.
      2. (ii) The buying back of service will no longer be a contributing factor to the actuarial shortfall in the Fund as the weighted formula will have the effect that the Fund will in future be fully compensated for the cost involved in the buying back of service.
  2. (2) No.
KTC squatter camp: wire fences on western/ southern sides *15. Mr J VAN ECK

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether a wire fence has been erected on the western, southern and eastern sides of the KTC squatter camp at Nyanga, Cape Town; if so, (a) what type of wire fence and (b) when;
  2. (2) whether, prior to the erection of this fence, any discussions were held with the (a) residents and/or (b) members of the Masincedane Committee of this Squattercamp; if not, why not; if so, (i) with what (aa) residents and (bb) members of this committee, (ii) on what dates and (iii) what views on the erection of this fence were expressed by these residents and committee members;
  3. (3) whether members of the South African Police were involved in these discussions; if so, (a) why and (b) what views did they express on the erection of this fence?
†The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) Yes, on the western and southern sides.
    1. (a) barbed tape entanglement.
    2. (b) 27 February 1988.
  2. (2) (a) and (b) Yes.
    1. (i)
      1. (aa) and (bb) With a number of leading residents of the area and 24 committee members.
    2. (ii) 9, 23 and 27 February 1988.
    3. (iii) The committee members and residents requested that the area be fenced in, in order to ensure their safety against attacks while they were repairing, cleaning and upgrading the territory.
  3. (3) Yes.
    1. (a) and (b) It is the statutory responsibility of the South African Police to maintain law and order. During January/February 1988 criminal elements burnt dwellings and injured, killed and intimidated residents of the area. The request of the residents and committee was favourably considered by the mini Joint Management Centre for the area, particularly as it promoted the maintenance of law and order.
Office of Municipal Police, Pabalello, Upington: person injured *16. Mr J VAN ECK

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether a certain person, whose name has been furnished to the South African Police for the purpose of the Minister’s reply, received any injuries during an incident at a police station in the Black township of Pabalello, Upington, on or about 30 January 1988; if so, (a) what is the name of this person and (b) what was the (i) cause and (ii) nature of his injuries;
  2. (2) whether any of these injuries are of a permanent nature; if so, what are the relevant particulars;
  3. (3) whether any charges have been laid against this person by the Police; if so, what charges;
  4. (4) whether any of these charges have been withdrawn; if so, (a) which charges and (b) why;
  5. (5) whether this person has laid any charges against any members of the Police; if so, what is the nature of these charges?
The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) No, not at a police station of the South African Police, but at an office of the Municipal Police, Pabalello, Upington.
    1. (a) The name furnished by the hon member.
    2. (b) (i) and (ii) The left eye of the person was seriously injured when he resisted arrest on a charge of being in the possession of dagga.
  2. (2) Yes, the left eye of the person was removed during an operation.
  3. (3) Yes, 3 charges namely —
    contravening section 2(b) of the Abuse of Dependence-producing Substances and Rehabilitation Centres Act, 1977 (Act 14 of 1977) — Possession of dagga;
    contravening section 27(1) of the Police Act, 1958 (Act 7 of 1958) — Assaulting a police official;
    contravening section 29(a) of the Police Act, 1958 (Act 7 of 1958) — Resisting arrest.
  4. (4) Yes
    1. (a) and (b) All three charges were withdrawn pending the result of a trial in a murder case in which the person is also the accused.
  5. (5) No, but he preferred a charge of assault with the intent to do grievous bodily harm against two members of the Pabalello Municinal Police.
Damage to school buildings *17. Mr K M ANDREW

asked the Minister of Education and Development Aid:

(a) How many cases of damage to school buildings occurred in 1987, (b) in which areas or townships were these schools situated and (c) what is the total estimated amount of the damage?

†The DEPUTY MINISTER OF EDUCATION:

(a)

39 cases.

(b)

Highveld

5

Johannesburg

7

Cape

3

Northern Transvaal

7

Orange-Vaal

9

Orange Free State

1

Natal

7

39

(c)

R870 170

Black children unable to gain admission to schools *18. Mr K M ANDREW

asked the Minister of Education and Development Aid:

  1. (1) Whether any Black children are unable to gain admission to schools in 1988; if so, how many Black children were unable to gain such admission as at the latest specified date for which figures are available;
  2. (2) whether any additional classrooms are to be built in 1988; if not, why not; if so, (a) how many and (b) where will they be built?
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF EDUCATION:
  1. (1) Yes
    Total: 2 503
  2. (2) Yes
    1. (a) and (b) Additional classrooms and other tuition rooms are being erected during 1988 in all seven regions of the Department. It is expected that 1 435 classrooms for secondary schools and 1 292 classrooms for primary schools will be completed during 1988.
Funds to persons/organizations promoting revolutionary activity/political violence: prosecutions *19. Mr S S VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Justice:

whether, during the latest specified three-year period for which information is available, any persons or organizations were prosecuted for (a) providing and/or (b) channelling funds to any other person or organization for the purpose of promoting revolutionary activity or political violence in South Africa; if so, (i) which (aa) persons and (bb) organizations were so prosecuted and (ii) in terms of which statutory provisions?

†The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:

(a) and (b) The required information can cover a wide spectrum of offences. The circumstances mentioned by the hon member can include any kind of offence — from a contravention of security legislation and other statutory offences to common law offences. To obtain the information, it will mean that the court records of all courts ocuntry-wide will have to be examined, which is not economically feasible.

Funds to persons/organizations promoting revolutionary activity/political violence: prosecutions *20. Mr S S VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether, during the latest specified three-year period for which information is available, any persons or organizations (a) were charged and/or (b) were the subject of any Police action in terms of the emergency regulations or any other statutory provisions for (i) providing and/or (ii) channelling funds to any other person or organization for the purpose of promoting revolutionary activity or political violence in South Africa; if so,
  2. (2) (a) which (i) persons and (ii) organizations were so charged or were the subject of such Police action and (b) in terms of which statutory provision or regulation in each case?
The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

I refer the hon member to the reply of my colleague, the Minister of Justice, to question 19, with which I agree.

In any event, the substance of the hon member’s question includes a great variety of crimes under different headings.

In order to compile this information, it will be necessary to check the crime records of police stations country-wide. This would be a voluminous and time-consuming task which could not be economically justified. Therefore, I am not prepared to furnish this information.

National servicemen accused of certain acts against detainee *21. Mr J J WALSH

asked the Minister of Defence:

  1. (1) Whether, with reference to the reply of the Minister of Law and Order to Question No 18, standing over, on 6 October 1987, any of the six persons accused in connection with the alleged commission of certain acts against the detainee referred to in the reply to Question No 21 on 25 Aguust 1987, were national servicemen; if so, how many;
  2. (2) whether it is the policy of the South African Defence Force to use national servicemen to interrogate civilians; if not, what is the policy in this regard?
†The DEPUTY MINISTER OF DEFENCE:
  1. (1) No.
  2. (2) Yes, if they possess the necessary training and qualifications.
Blacks in Cape Peninsula: scheme dealing with housing/recreation/educational needs *22. Mr J J WALSH

asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:

  1. (1) Whether his Department has a plan or town planning scheme dealing with the present and future housing, recreational and educational needs of Blacks living in the Cape Peninsula; if not, why not; if so,
  2. (2) whether this plan or scheme makes provision for (a) the upgrading of Old Crossroads, KTC and other squatter areas within the Nyanga East area and (b) additional areas for those who cannot be accommodated in the above existing squatter areas; if not, why not; if so, when is it anticipated that the implementation of this plan or scheme will be (i) commenced and (ii) completed;
  3. (3) whether those concerned have been consulted and advised concerning details of this plan or scheme; if not, why not; if so, (a) when and (b) with what result;
  4. (4) whether details of this plan or scheme have been made available to the public; if not, why not; if so, when;
  5. (5) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF DEVELOPMENT PLANNING:
  1. (1) Yes.
  2. (2) (a) and (b) Yes.
    1. (i) The implementation of the plan has already started.
    2. (ii) Approximately 1992.
  3. (3) Yes.
    1. (a) On an ongoing basis.
    2. (b) With positive reaction and co-operation.
  4. (4) No, all the people concerned have been consulted before declaring the development areas.
  5. (5) No.
Corruption in Transkei: SAP commercial branch involved in investigations *23. Mr R R HULLEY

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether the commercial branch of the South African Police are involved in the investigations of the commission of inquiry into allegations of corruption in Transkei; if so, what is the nature of this involvement;
  2. (2) whether he will furnish information on whether investigations into possible (a) exchange control and (b) other criminal contraventions are taking place in this connection; if not, why not; if so, what progress has been made in this regard;
  3. (3) whether the possible involvement of certain persons, whose names have been furnished to the Police for the purpose of the Minister’s reply, is one of the matters being investigated; if so, what are the names of these persons;
  4. (4) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
†The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) Yes. Two officers of the commercial branch are assisting with the collection of evidence for the commission of inquiry, at the request of the Transkeian Government.
  2. (2) to (4) Because Transkei is an independent state and the commission of inquiry was appointed by that government, I do not consider it advisable to furnish any information which has come to the fore as a result of the activities of the commission. Should the findings of the commission reveal that any offence was committed in the Republic, it will be forwarded and dealt with through the usual diplomatic channels.
Information prejudicial to security of RSA passed to certain person *24. Mr R R HULLEY

asked the Minister of Defence:

Whether he will give the House the assurance that no information prejudicial to the security of the Republic was passed to a certain person, whose name has been furnished to the South African Defence Force for the purpose of the Minister’s reply; if not, why not; if so, (a) on what basis is he giving this assurnace and (b) what is the name of this person?

The DEPUTY MINISTER OF DEFENCE:

Yes

  1. (a) On the basis that there had at no stage been contact between the SA Defence Force and this person.
  2. (b) The name supplied by the hon member.
Activities of certain person: investigations *25. Mr R R HULLEY

asked the Minister of Foreign Affairs:

  1. (1) Whether he and/or any section of his Department (a) is investigating and/or (b) has been informed of any investigations into the activities of a certain person, whose name has been furnished to the Minister’s Department for the purpose of his reply; if not, why are no such investigations being conducted in his Department; if so, what (i) is the nature and (ii) are the results of these investigations;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
†The DEPUTY MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) No.
    2. (b) No.
      No information has been received by the Department calling for such an investigation.
  2. (2) No.
KwaZulu: political party financed/sponsored *26. Mr D J N MALCOMESS

asked the Deputy Minister of Information:

Whether any political party in KwaZulu was financed or sponsored by the Bureau for Information at any stage; if so, (a) why, (b) when, (c) to what extent and (d) what is the name of (i) this party and (ii) the leader of this party?

The DEPUTY MINISTER OF INFORMATION:

No.

  1. (a) (b) and (c) Fall away.
  2. (d) (i) and (ii) Fall away.
Jamestown: houses sold to Blacks *27. Mr D J N MALCOMESS

asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:

  1. (1) Whether any houses in Jamestown have been sold to Black persons in terms of the 99-year leasehold system; if so, (a) how many and (b) in respect of what date is this information furnished;
  2. (2) whether the area in question has been registered as a Black township; if so, (a) when and (b) what is the name of this township;
  3. (3) whether the title deeds to the properties so sold have been issued; if not, why not; if so, when?
†The DEPUTY MINISTER OF DEVELOPMENT PLANNING:
  1. (1) Yes.
    1. (a) 7
    2. (b) 29 February 1988.
  2. (2) No.
    1. (a) and (b) Fall away.
  3. (3) No, the town has not yet been registered.
Death sentences of six persons from Sharpeville: representations for commutation *28. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Justice:

  1. (1) Whether any representations have been received for the commutation of the death sentences of six persons from Sharpeville, whose names have been furnished to the Minister’s Department for the purpose of his reply; if so, (a) from whom, (b) with what result and (c) what are the names of these persons;
  2. (2) whether any decision has been taken in this regard; if so, what is the decision; if not, why not;
  3. (3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
†The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:
  1. (1) (a), (b) and (c) Yes. Representations have been received from various persons and organizations for the commutation of the death sentence of the persons whose names have been furnished by the hon member. It is not feasible to furnish the names of all the persons who made representations in a reply of this nature.
  2. (2) Yes. No grounds could be found to commute the sentences imposed by the court and confirmed by the Appellate Division.
  3. (3) No. A statement is not necessary.
Emergency regulations: orders restricting access to KTC *29. Mr J J WALSH

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether any orders have been issued in terms of the emergency regulations in connection with restricted access to the KTC squatter camp; if so, (a) by whom, (b) in terms of what regulations, (c) why and (d) what is the purport of these orders;
  2. (2) whether he has received any representations for the (a) repeal and (b) amendment of these orders; if so, (i) from whom and (ii) what was (aa) the nature of the representations and (bb) his response thereto;
  3. (3) whteher he will make a statement on the matter?
†The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) Yes.
    1. (a) The Divisional Commissioner, Western Province.
    2. (b) In terms of regulation 7 of the Regulations promulgated in Proclamation R96 of 11 June 1987 by virtue of the Public Safety Act, 1953 (Act 3 of 1953).
    3. (c) Because it is in the interest of the residents of the area and to maintain law and order.
    4. (d) I refer the hon member to Government Notice 411 in Government Gazette 11168 dated 1 March 1988.
  2. (2)
    1. (a) No.
      1. (i) and (ii) Fall away.
    2. (b) No, but the Divisional Commissioner, Western Province Division received representations.
      1. (i) The Legal Resources Centre and a small group of residents from the KTC squatter camp.
      2. (ii)
        1. (aa) That similar orders are not in force in respect of other residential areas.
        2. (bb) A delegation was interviewed on 7 March 1988. Their representations were given a hearing and consdiered, but turned down. It was pointed out to them that the situation in the KTC squatter camp and the surrounding areas changes continually. Therefore, measures such as these are reconsidered on a daily basis and adjusted should circumstances so require.
  3. (3) Yes.
    Measures of this nature are always introduced with a view to
    — facilitating the maintenance of law and order;
    — ensuring the safety of the residents of an area and
    — promoting the termination of the state of emergency.
    In this instance, measures were implemented in the interests of the safety and at the request of the majority of the residents of the KTC squatter camp. Since then the situation in this residential area has to a large extent stabilized. A visible tranquillity, with which we are pleased, prevails.
    However, it is noteworthy that a very small group of radical residents are not in favour of stability and peace; likewise, the organisations and/or the individuals who represent the interests of these residents with loud acclamation. Protective measures such as these are labelled as oppressive and unnecessary.
    Therefore I wish to emphasise today that these radicals and their representatives do not act or remonstrate on behalf of the greater majority of the community. On the contrary, their actions promote only their own selfish political and personal interests.

Own Affairs:

Teachers: election agents for political candidates *1. Mr A GERBER

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:†

  1. (1) Whether it is permissible in the Transvaal, Cape, Free State and Natal Provincial Education Departments, respectively, for teachers to (a) act as election agents for candidates of political parties and (b) distribute party-political information during school hours on school premises; if so, (i) with effect from what date and (ii) subject to what conditions;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) Although this is not prohibited by ordinance I am not in favour of such a practice;
    2. (b) no,
      1. (i) and (ii) fall away;
  2. (2) no.
Rationalization of teachers’ colleges: recommendations by Cape Education Department *2. Mr A GERBER

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:†

Whether the Cape Education Department was requested by his Department to make recommendations in connection with the rationalization of teachers’ colleges in the Cape Province; if not, why not; if so, what (a) recommendations in connection with the teachers’ colleges at (i) Paarl and (ii) Wellington and (b) other recommendations were made?

†The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:

(a) and (b)

The Cape Education Department is part of my Department and as such responsible for administering the policy of the Department of Education and Culture in the Cape. The rationalization of institutions in the Cape is therefore undertaken on the basis of inputs received from the Cape Education Department as well as on other related considerations. It is not normal practice to make known the recommendations that are considered in the process of decision-making.

Levies by own affairs departments for services: investigation *3. Mr R M BURROWS

asked the Minister of the Budget and Welfare:

  1. (1) Whether a committee is investigating the introduction of levies to be imposed by own affairs departments for the use of certain services; if so, (a) under which Department does this committee fall, (b) (i) on what dates has this committee met and (ii) who are the members thereof and (c) what services are involved;
  2. (2) whether this committee has made any recommendations on the introduction of such levies; if not, why not; if so, what levies have been (a) recommended and (b) introduced;
  3. (3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
The MINISTER OF THE BUDGET AND WELFARE:
  1. (1) Yes.
    1. (a) Department of Budgetary and Auxiliary Services
    2. (b)
      1. (i) On various occasions
      2. (ii) Professor A Melck, Reverend H R Visser, Mr J F Steyn and Mr Joos F Becker
    3. (c) None
  2. (2) No. No report has as yet been made by the committee. The committee does not make recommendations regarding the implementation of levies, but only explores the various possibilities for levies.
  3. (3) In 1985 the Minister of the Budget indicated that investigations were being instituted to determine which levies merit consideration. During 1987 the Minister’s Council decided to broaden the investigation by appointing a Committee of Experts. I dealt with this investigation, as well as the question regarding levies, in detail last year during the Third Reading Debate of the Appropriation Act (House of Assembly). The point of view I conveyed on that occasion remains unchanged.
Children in pre-primary schools: cost of education *4. Mr R M BURROWS

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

Whether he will furnish the House with the cost to his Department of financing in full or in part the education of three and four-year-old children in pre-primary schools; if not, why not; if so, (a) what was the cost of providing such education in the latest specified financial year for which figures are available and (b) for how many children was it provided?

†The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:

The information requested is not available since no separate records are kept for three and four-year-old pupils in pre-primary schools;

  1. (a) the total amount budgeted for pre-primary schools for the 1986/87 financial year was R50,738 million,
  2. (b) the total number of pupils provided for, was 73 914.
Local Councils Act (House of Assembly) *5. Mr R R HULLEY

asked the Minister of Local Government, Housing and Works:

  1. (1) Whether any steps have been taken to give effect to the provisions of the local Councils Act (House of Assembly), No 94 of 1987; if not, why not; if so, (a) what is the nature of these steps and (b) when is it intended to (i) promulgate the necessary regulations to give effect to the provisions of this Act and (ii) bring the first local council into existence in terms of this Act;
  2. (2) whether any bodies have applied for local council status in terms of the said Act; if so, (a) what bodies, (b) when and (c) with what result in each case?
The MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, HOUSING AND WORKS:
  1. (1) Yes.
    1. (a) Preparation of the regulations as required in section 6 of the Local Councils Act, Act 94 of 1987.
    2. (b)
      1. (i) It is anticipated that the draft regulations will be published at the end of April for comment whereafter it will be promulgated as soon as possible.
      2. (ii) As soon as all the preparatory administrative steps for the establishment thereof have been finalised.
  2. (2) Yes.
    1. (a) and (b) Since January 1988 bodies from the following local areas have made application:
      Natures Valley
      Buffelsbaai
      Brenton
      Hogekraal
      Constantia
      Melkbos
    2. (c) The respective applicants are in the meantime informed on the basic procedures to be followed for the establishment of a local council.
Social pensions: qualifying ages *6. Mr J J WALSH

asked the Minister of the Budget and Welfare:

  1. (1) What are the qualifying ages for social pensions in respect of (a) males and (b) females;
  2. (2) whether any exceptions are made in this regard; if so, (a) what are these exceptions and (b) for what reasons are they made?
†The MINISTER OF THE BUDGET AND WELFARE:
  1. (1) (a) and (b)
    Old age pensions: Male 65, Female 60
    War Veteran’s Pensions: Male and Female 60
    Persons under 60 can also qualify if they submit proof of war service and proof that they are medically unfit for work.
    Pensions for the Blind: Male and Female 19
    Disability Pensions: Male and Female 16
  2. (2) No, (a) and (b) fall away.
Bulwer: closure of school/hostel *7. Mr R W HARDINGHAM

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

  1. (1) Whether his Department intends closing the (a) school and/or (b) hostel at Bulwer; if so, (i) why and (ii) with effect from what date in each case;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) No, unless the schools’ enrolment shows a further downward trend,
    2. (b) the Bulwer hostel was closed at the end of 1964,
      1. (i) and (ii) fall away.
  2. (2) no.
Mr R W HARDINGHAM:

Mr Speaker, arising from the hon the Minister’s reply, may I ask whether there are any plans afoot to make use of that hostel for any other purpose?

†The MINISTER:

Mr Speaker, I am not aware of such plans at present.

Teachers’ colleges: closure of Wellington/retention of Paarl *8. Mr R M BURROWS

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

  1. (1) Whether an initial decision was taken by his Department to close the Wellington Teachers’ College and to retain the Paarl Teachers’ College; if so, (a)(i) when and (ii) by whom was this decision taken and (b) why was it reversed;
  2. (2) whether any Ministerial Representative for the Cape Province was involved in discussions concerning the retention of the Wellington Teachers’ College; if so, (a) which Ministerial Representative and (b) (i) with whom did he hold these discussions and (ii) what was the outcome thereof;
  3. (3) (a) by whom and (b) when was the decision taken to retain the Wellington Teachers’ College;
  4. (4) whether a final decision was taken recently on the disposal of the buildings and grounds of the Paarl Teachers’ College; if so, (a) what was this decision and (b) when will occupation be taken up by the new occupants;
  5. (5) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
†The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (1) No, decisions of this nature are taken at Ministerial level after the advantages and disadvantages of the various alternatives have been considered;
  2. (2) no;
  3. (3)
    1. (a) by me, in deliberation with the Ministers’ Council and other Ministers concerned;
    2. (b) 8 October 1987;
  4. (4) yes,
    1. (a) the Paarl Teachers’ College will be used by the South African Police, the Paarl Technical College and the Paarl Commercial High School,
    2. (b) with effect from 1990;
  5. (5) no.

For written reply:

General Affairs:

Sandton: additional post offices/postal services 130. Mr D J DALLING

asked the Minister of Communications:

Whether it is the intention to provide any additional (a) post offices and (b) postal services in the Sandton area in 1988; if so, (i) where, (ii) what services, and (iii) when, in each case?

The MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS:
  1. (a) No;
  2. (b) yes;
    1. (i) Gallo Manor;
    2. (ii) and (iii) the installation of 800 additional private boxes at the existing mail collection unit before the end of March 1988 (see note 1).

The following additional services are planned for the Sandton area for completion later than 1988;

  1. (i) The erection of a mail collection unit consisting of 1 500 private boxes in Linbro Park by August 1989 (see note 1)·
  2. (ii) The construction of a new departmental post office in Wendywood to replace the existing hired premises in the course of 1989. The proposed new office will provide 2 000 private boxes.
  3. (iii) The establishment of a post office in Morningside (see note 2).

NOTES:

  1. (1) In a written reply furnished on 26 February 1987 to question No 347, it was envisaged that the service at Gallo Manor would be provided towards the middle of 1987 and that at Linbro Park during the second half of 1987. The work involved in the provision of these services has unfortunately been unavoidably delayed.
  2. (2) The target date of the second half of 1987 envisaged in the reply to the question referred to above for the establishment of a post office in Morningside could unfortunately not be met as hired accommodation at an economic rental is not available. It is not proposed to erect a departmental building for this purpose as early as possible.
Special crime prevention unit in Sandton: arrests 136. Mr D J DALLING

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

How many arrests in respect of each specified type of suspected offence were effected in 1987 by the special crime prevention unit stationed in Sandton?

The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

Immigration Act

916

Drinking in the Public

261

Trespass

201

Possession of dagga

92

Housebreaking with the intent to steal and theft

68

Theft of motor vehicles

33

Dealing in dagga

19

Possession of suspected stolen property

16

Theft

11

Possession of prohibited concoctions

5

Possession of dangerous weapons

4

Gambling

3

Robbery

3

Theft out of motor vehicles

2

Illegal possession of arms and ammunition

3

Fraud

1

Dealing in liquor without a licence

1

Rape

1

Assault with the intent to do grievous bodily harm

1

Escaping from custody

1

TOTAL

1 642

Sandton/Bramley/Wynberg/AIexandra/Lombardy East police stations: patrol vehicles stationed 137. Mr D J DALLING

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

How many serviceable patrol vehicles (a) with and (b) without radio equipment installed are stationed on a daily basis at the (i) Sandton, (ii) Bramley, (iii) Wynberg/Alexandra and (iv) Lombardy East police stations?

The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

(a)

(b)

(i)

4

(ii)

3

(iii)

5

(iv)

3

2

Sandton: detainees 141. Mr D J DALLING

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

Whether any persons detained in terms of security legislation or emergency regulations had been held at the Sandton police station from 12 June 1986; if so, (a) how many, (b) what specified facilities exist at this police station for holding such persons and (c) in respect of what date is this information furnished?

The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

(a) to (c)

I refer the honourable member to my reply to oral question 2 of 17 February 1987 (Hansard Col 70 to 81) and written question 84 of 20 February 1987 (Hansard Col 186) which I still regard as sufficient.

Internal Security Act: contraventions of section 46 142. Mr D J DALLING

asked the Minister of Justice:

Whether any persons were (a) charged with and (b) convicted of contravening section 46 of the Internal Security Act, No 74 of 1982, in 1987 ; if so, (i) how many, and (ii) how many of these persons were under the age of 18 years, in each case?

The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:

Section 46 of the Internal Security Act, 1982, does not create an offence. Offences which relate to section 46 are contained in section 57 of the Act. Comprehensive statistics are not readily available in the Department. However, steps are being taken to make such statistics available in the future.

Trespass: convictions 349. Mr D J DALLING

asked the Minister of Justice:

How many (a) Whites, (b) Coloureds, (c) Indians and (d) Blacks were convicted of trespass in 1987 in (i) each of the main urban centres and (ii) the Republic?

The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:

In an effort to be of assistance to the Honourable Member the following information in respect of the Republic for the period 1 July 1986 to 30 June 1987 was obtained from the Central Statistical Services:

Race

Prosecutions

Convictions

Whites

12

11

Coloureds

74

46

Indians

8

6

Blacks

179

137

Sporting facilities: amount spent 400. Mr M J ELLIS

asked the Minister of National Education:

What was the total amount spent by his Department on the provision of sporting facilities in South Africa in the 1986-87 financial year?

The MINISTER OF NATIONAL EDUCATION:

A total amount of R1 253 700 was made available during the 1986/87 financial year by the Department of National Education for the provision of sporting facilities in South Africa.

White citizens in RSA 474. Mr H H SCHWARZ

asked the Minister of Home Affairs:

  1. (1) What was the total number of White South African citizens resident in the Republic as at 31 December 1987;
  2. (2) (a) how many White persons resident in the Republic as at that date had not taken out South African citizenship and (b)(i) what were their countries of origin and (ii) how many of them came from each such country?
The MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS:

(1)

4 502 400 (estimate)*

(2)

**(a) 423 600 (estimate)

(b) (i)***

(ii)

Zimbabwe

33 750

Other in Africa

18 540

Greece

7 720

Italy

12 970

The Netherlands

17 410

Portugal

42 510

United Kingdom

115 560

West Germany

24 960

Other in Europe

128 810

United States of America

4 880

Other in America

3 920

Australia

4 300

Other in Oceania

1 480

Asia

5 950

Stateless and unknown

840

* The estimate is based on the mid-year estimates (30 June 1987) of the Central Statistical Service.

** Estimates are based on the 1985 Population Census proportions.

*** Only countries from which more than 3 000 persons originated, are shown separately.

Motor vehicles reported stolen: prosecutions/ convictions 475. Mr H H SCHWARZ

asked the Minister of Justice:

Whether any (a) prosecutions were instituted and (b) convictions were obtained in respect of motor vehicles reported stolen to the South African Police during the period 1 July 1986 to 30 June 1987; if so, how many in each category as at the latest specified date for which figures are available?

The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:

In an effort to be of assistance to the Honourable Member, the following information for the period 1 July 1986 to 30 June 1987 was obtained from the Central Statistical Services:

  1. (a) 8 221
  2. (b) 5 318
Medical doctors: left RSA permanently 498. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Home Affairs:

(a) How many medical doctors left the Republic permanently in 1987 and (b) what was the age distribution of these medical doctors?

The MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS:

(a)

General practitioner

72

Specialist

21

(b)

-24

25-34

35-44

45-54

55-64

65+

General practitioner

26

27

9

5

5

Specialist

3

13

2

2

1

Independent Black states: foreign aid 533. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Foreign Affairs:

What amounts were granted in terms of foreign aid to each of the four independent Black states in each of the latest specified five financial years for which figures are available?

The MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS:

FOREIGN AID (*): TRANSKEI (RAND)

* For the purposes of answering this question foreign aid includes the following: all direct and indirect financial assistance as well as transfer payments (which are regarded as own income, in terms of specific agreements where the Department of Foreign Affairs is involved.

1)

1)

1)

1)

2)

1983/84

1984/85

1985/86

1986/87

1987/88

A Direct Financial Assistance Budgetary aid

201 300 000

219 000 000

272 976 000

352 400 000

517 722 000

Incentive scheme for industries

9 693 928

14 000 000

16 000 000

17 000 000

15 000 000

Non recoverable financial assistance

1 100 000

8 721 538

2 068 100

Relief of distress

4 038 146

1 501 295

Job creation

2 000 000

1 577 532

10 146 000

11 550 000

7 200 000

TOTAL

218 132 074

234 577 532

307 843 538

384 519 395

539 922 000

B. Transfer payments Tax compensation

59 558 612

73 322 610

100 500 000

115 719 753

134 837 000

Customs union

188 325 000

280 126 000

295 303 000

292 446 000

350 516 000

Common monetary area

6 539 867

9 384 000

10 640 000

11 078 720

14 570 000

TOTAL

254 423 479

362 832 610

406 453 000

419 244 473

499 923 000

C. Loans (Project aid)

14 387 110

6 562 099

25 713 840

32 677 170

30 057 000

D. Technical and other assistance

Manpower provision

4 329 062

4 598 319

4 200 995

4 966 775

5 350 000

Flour subsidy

7 975 398

9 655 146

9 335 331

9 978 969

8 825 000

Technical assistance

200 676

740 275

1 190 419

755 205

700 000

Salaries of Judges

107 688

106 177

153 167

204 710

278 000

TOTAL

12 612 824

15 099 917

14 879 912

15 905 659

15 153 000

GRAND TOTAL

499 555 487

619 072 158

754 890 290

852 346 6971

085 055 000

E. Guaranteed overdraft facilities

3) 217 000 000

3) 190 000 000

  1. (1) Actual Figures
  2. (2) Estimates
  3. (3) Total value of the guarantees provided.

It is not necessarily the total guaranteed amount taken up by the Transkei government.

FOREIGN AID (*): BOPHUTHATSWANA (RAND)

* For purposes of answering this question foreign aid includes the following: all direct and indirect financial assistance as well as transfer payments (which are regarded as own income) in terms of specific agreements where the Department of Foreign Affairs is involved.

1)

1)

1)

1)

2)

1983/84

1984/85

1985/86

1986/87

1987/88

A Direct financial assistance Budgetary aid

25 560 000

32 000 000

74 049 090

154 764 000

336 000 000

Incentive scheme for industries

475 618

4 000 000

4 700 000

6 000 000

14 000 000

Non recoverable financial assistance

707 176

10 693 525

22 508 754

11 899 155

Relief of distress

4 409 000

5 418 000

7 956 762

2 075 412

Job creation

12 346 851

9 550 000

8 500 000

TOTAL

31 151 794

52 111 525

121 561 457

184 288 567

358 500 000

B. Transfer payments Tax compensation

22 500 999

29 976 298

38 000 000

43 716 309

50 938 000

Customs union

244 537 000

260 325 000

277 435 000

293 833 000

411 569 000

Common monetary area

3 128 160

4 493 280

5 105 000

5 306 773

6 570 000

TOTAL

270 166 159

294 794 578

320 540 000

342 856 082

469 077 000

C. Loans from RSA (Project aid)

12 019 022

898 823

750 090

5 909 917

33 730 000

D. Technical and other assistance

Manpower provision

10 751 902

11 355 888

10 834 513

11 714 195

11 628 000

Flour subsidy

11 200 597

7 202 712

6 579 896

6 807 717

5 570 000

Technical assistance

819 684

1 523 648

478 708

302 201

1 290 000

Salaries of Judges

143 169

169 565

153 011

256 508

189 000

TOTAL

22 915 352

20 251 813

18 046 128

19 080 621

18 677 000

GRAND TOTAL

336 252 327

368 057 739

460 897 675

552 135 187

879 984 000

E. Guaranteed overdraft facilities

3) 272 000 000

3) 100 000 000

  1. (1) Actual Figures
  2. (2) Estimates
  3. (3) Total value of the guarantees provided.

It is not necessarily the total guaranteed amount taken up by the Bophuthatswana government.

FOREIGN AID (*); VENDA (RAND)

For purposes of answering this question foreign aid includes the following: all direct and indirect financial assistance as well as transfer payments (which are regarded as own income) in terms of specific agreements where the Department of Foreign Affairs is involved.

1)

1)

1)

1)

2)

1983/84

1984/85

1985/86

1986/87

1987/88

A Direct financial assistance Budgetary aid

80 613 745

122 650 000

129 000 000

164 200 000

221 200 000

Incentive scheme for industries

616 010

1 650 000

1 350 000

4 036 473

4 400 000

Non recoverable financial assistance

343 580

412 096

4 541 381

Relief of distress

6 000 000

1 758 130

Job creation

2 584 169

4 092 999

2 500 000

TOTAL

87 229 755

126 401 710

133 346 265

176 870 853

228 100 000

B. Transfer payments Tax compensation

3 910 910

6 336 895

6 500 000

7 595 057

8 849 000

Customs union

21 196 000

30 079 000

42 105 000

57 658 000

67 070 500

Common monetary area

887 227

1 280 640

1 455 000

1 518 933

1 900 000

TOTAL

25 994 137

37 696 535

50 060 000

66 771 990

77 819 500

C. Loans (Project aid)

7 946 620

2 420 645

584 824

403 841

19 869 000

D. Technical and other assistance

Manpower provision

6 320 371

6 865 057

7 174 616

9 307 295

8 510 000

Flour subsidy

2 264 816

1 942 985

1 810 845

1 861 605

1 440 000

Technical assistance

319 183

135 849

552 789

641 579

330 000

Salaries of Judges

73 532

145 040

80 646

196 801

189 000

TOTAL

8 977 902

9 088 931

9 618 896

12 007 280

10 469 000

GRAND TOTAL

130 148 414

175 607 821

193 609 985

256 053 964

336 257 500

E. Guaranteed overdraft facilities

3) 62 500 000

3) 62 000 000

  1. (1) Actual Figures
  2. (2) Estimates
  3. (3) Total value of the guarantees provided.

It is not necessarily the total guaranteed amount taken up by the Venda government.

FOREIGN AID (*): CISKEI (RAND)

* For purposes of answering this question foreign aid includes the following: all direct and indirect financial assistance as well as transfer payments (which are regarded as own income) in terms of specific agreements where the Department of Foreign Affairs is involved.

1)

1)

1)

1)

2)

1983/84

1984/85

1985/86

1986/87

1987/88

A Direct financial assistance Budgetary aid

141 100 000

164 374 814

174 253 500

221 789 034

299 666 000

Incentive scheme for industries

10 165 464

16 404 000

32 350 000

29 871 423

24 000 000

Non recoverable financial assistance

13 345 455

4 360 866

3 142 784

603 262

Relief of distress

7 050 000

3 027 856

1 853 748

Job creation

1 000 000

2 544 770

15 463 624

14 770 105

10 800 000

TOTAL

172 660 919

190 712 306

227 063 656

267 033 824

334 466 000

B. Transfer payments Tax compensation

12 578 289

17 251 413

21 000 000

24 386 346

28 414 000

Customs union

62 375 000

129 628 000

132 529 000

107 291 000

156 117 000

Common monetary area

1 765 307

2 539 200

2 885 000

2 999 893

3 740 000

TOTAL

76 718 596

149 418 613

156 414 000

134 677 239

188 271 000

C. Loans (Project aid)

161 468

3 682 589

7 638 332

8 136 000

D. Technical and other assistance Manpower provision

9 472 470

10 042 246

9 259 967

9 697 851

22 490 000

Flour subsidy

793 173

496 426

507 047

611 092

465 000

Technical assistance

304 477

382 937

883 281

243 572

410 000

Salaries for Judges

113 911

230 791

222 727

214 424

278 000

TOTAL

10 684 031

11 152 400

10 873 022

10 766 739

23 643 000

GRAND TOTAL

260 225 014

351 283 319

398 033 267

420 116 134

554 516 000

E. Guaranteed overdraft facilities

3) 227 000 000

3) 188 000 000

  1. (1) Actual Figures
  2. (2) Estimates
  3. (3) Total value of the guarantees provided.

It is not necessarily the total guaranteed amount taken up by the Ciskei government.

Independent Black states/self-governing territories: citizens in RSA 535. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Home Affairs:

How many citizens of each (a) independent Black state and (b) self-governing territory resided in the Republic of South Africa (i) in 1978, (ii) in 1982, (iii) in 1986 and (iv) as at the latest specified date for which figures are available?

The MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS:
  1. (a)
    1. (i), (ii), (iii) Not available.
    2. (iv) Citizenship 1985*

Transkei

682 664

Bophuthatswana

588 993

Venda

89 364

Ciskei

331 300

(b) (i), (ii), (iii) Not available.

The self-governing territories are part of the Republic of South Africa but the figures excluding the self-governing territories are as follows:

(iv) Citizenship

1985*

KwaZulu

1 121 360

Kangwane

329 714

Qwaqwa

704 443

Gazankulu

178 385

Lebowa

619 125

KwaNdebele

211 819

*Population census 5 March 1985. RSA excluding self-governing territories. Figures as enumerated, not adjusted for possible undercount.

Greater Cape Town: Blacks 543. Mr C W EGLIN

asked the Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning:

(a) What is the estimated number of Blacks who reside in (i) the Greater Cape Town area and (ii) each specified Black township in this area and (b) in respect of what date is this information furnished?

The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:

(a)

522 450

(ii) Guguletu

151 000

Langa

72 500

Nyanga

93 500

Crossroads

35 000

KTC

12 000

Khayelitsha

97 000

Site ‘C’

38 800

Mfuleni

3 450

Lwandle

1 850

Kaya Mandi

3 350

Mbekweni

14 000

Suburban stations, West Rand: commuters 549. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

  1. (1)
    1. (a) What suburban stations on the West Rand handle the highest daily number of White, Coloured, Indian and Black commuters, respectively, (b) what are the relevant figures in respect of each of these population groups and (c) over what specified period were these figures calculated;
  2. (2) whether there are shelters available on the platforms of these stations; if so, what is the capacity of these shelters on each of these stations in respect of each such population group; if not, which of these stations do not have such shelters;
  3. (3) whether it is the intention to provide shelters at these stations; if not, why not; if so, what are the relevant particulars?
The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:
  1. (1) (a) Information regarding only first and third class passenger numbers are kept. Roodepoort handles the most first class passengers and Langlaagte the most third class passengers.

(b)

First Class

Third Class

Roodepoort

4 975

10 104

Langlaagte

2 196

35 351

(c) 24 hours on weekdays.

(2) Yes

Roodepoort

Langlaagte

First Class

Two of 60 and 91 square metres respectively

Two of 32 tres square metres each

Third Class

Two of 54 and 70 square metres respectively.

Two of 32 and two of 360 square metres each.

  1. (3) No. There are sufficient shelters available.
Christmas cards sent out 597. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

  1. (1) Whether (a) he, (b) the Department of Transport and/or (c) the South African Transport Services sent out Christmas cards in 1987; if so, (i) what total number of cards was printed, (ii) to whom were they sent, (iii) what was the total cost of producing and distributing these cards, and (iv) who was responsible for printing them in each case;
  2. (2) whether postage stamps were used to send out these Christmas cards; if not, how were they distributed?
The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) Yes.
      1. (i) 595.
      2. (ii) To various persons in the public and private sector.
      3. (iii) R1 081,47.
      4. (iv) A printers’ firm in the private sector.
    2. (b) Yes.
      1. (i) 634.
      2. (ii) To various persons in the public and private sector with whom the Department liaises regularly.
      3. (iii) R345,64.
      4. (iv) The Department of Transport.
    3. (c) Yes. It is the policy that the South African Transport Services, as a business enterprise, send Christmas cards country-wide to its publics.
      1. (i), (ii), (iii) and (iv) Statistics of this nature are not kept and it will take much time and expense to gather such information.
  2. (2) Yes, but in the case of the Department of Transport 496 were distributed under cover of the official stamp of the Department.
Christmas cards sent out 603. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Economic Affairs and Technology:

  1. (1) Whether (a) he, (b) the Department of Trade and Industry and/or (c) the Department of Mineral and Energy Affairs sent out Christmas cards in 1987 ; if so, (i) what total number of cards was printed, (ii) to whom were they sent, (iii) what was the total cost of producing and distributing these cards, and (iv) who was responsible for printing them, in each case;
  2. (2) whether postage stamps were used to send out these Christmas cards; if not, how were they distributed?
The MINISTER OF ECONOMIC AFFAIRS AND TECHNOLOGY:

(1) (a), (b) and (c) Yes.

(i)

(iii)

Minister of Economic Affairs and Technology

1 000

R2 783

Deputy Minister of Economic Affairs and Technology (Mr G S Bartlett)

1 200

R4 955

Deputy Minister of Economic Affairs and Technology (Dr T G Alant)

1 000

R1 230

Director-General: Trade and Industry

500

R817

Director-General: Mineral and Energy Affairs

200

R520

  1. (ii) Minister of Economic Affairs and Technology
    Ministers and Deputy Ministers Members of Parliament
    Businessmen and/or persons in the private sector
    Foreign missions
    Heads of Departments
    Heads of branches and directorates in the Departments of Trade and Industry and of Mineral and Energy Affairs
    Newspaper editors
    Friends and family
    Deputy Minister of Economic Affairs and Technology (Mr G S Bartlett)
    Standing Committee: Manpower and Mineral and Energy Affairs
    Standing Committee: Trade and Industry
    Study Group: Mineral and Energy Affairs
    Members of Parliament of the National Party in Natal
    Administrators of the four provinces Mayors of Durban, Amanzimtoti, Scottburgh and Kingsburgh Constituency workers: Amanzimtoti, Reunion, Scottburgh, Umkomaas, Kingsburgh
    Heads of certain companies in the private sector
    Personal friends in South Africa as well as abroad
    Divisional heads of the Department of Mineral and Energy Affairs and their personnel (jointly)
    Parliamentary personnel of the Department
    Deputy Minister of Economic Affairs and Technology (Dr T G Alant)
    Ministers and Deputy Ministers Members of Parliament
    Persons in the private sector
    Foreign missions
    Heads of Departments
    Senior officials in the Department of Trade and Industry
    Director-General: Trade and Industry Some Ministers and Deputy Ministers
    Heads of Departments
    Contacts in trade and industry, locally and a limited number abroad
    Regional offices of the Department of Trade and Industry
    Foreign trade representatives of the Department
    Director-General: Mineral and Energy Affairs
    Ministers and Deputy Ministers Heads of Departments
    Regional offices of the Department of Mineral and Energy Affairs Foreign representatives of the Department
    Contacts in the mineral and energy industries
  1. (1) (iv) The Government Printer
  2. (2) Yes, in respect of Christmas cards sent abroad. Christmas cards distributed within South Africa were sent as official mail which is handled by the Post Office at the normal postage rate.
Suburban railway lines: delays 641. Mr J VAN ECK

asked the Minister of Transport Affairs:

  1. (1) With reference to his reply to Question No 228 on 29 July 1987, (a) how many delays of (i) less than 30 minutes, (ii) 30 to 60 minutes, (iii) one to two hours, (iv) two to three hours and (v) more than three hours occurred during the period 1 May to 31 December 1987 on the (aa) Cape Town to Simon’s Town, (bb) Cape Flats, (cc) Cape Town to Kapteinsklip, (dd) Cape Town to Bellville and (ee) Cape Town to Bellville via Monte Vista suburban railway lines and (b) how many commuters were affected by these delays in each case;
  2. (2)
    1. (a) how many of the trains that were technically delayed for longer than 60 minutes on each of the above routes were cancelled and (b) how many commuters were affected by such cancellations on each of these routes?
The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AFFAIRS:

(1)

(a)

(i)

(ii)

(iii), (iv) and (v)

(aa)

1 529

80

Due to the intensive scheduling of passenger suburban trains, trains which are technically more than 60 minutes late are cancelled as the passengers concerned will have travelled with a subsequent train.

(bb)

714

30

(cc)

2 093

137

(dd)

3 345

146

(ee)

101

4

(b)

Less than 30 minutes

30 to 60 minutes

(aa)

865 613

44 138

(bb)

262 336

10 659

(cc)

1 688 852

109 599

(dd)

2 252 144

97 140

(ee)

14 950

311

(2)

Cape Town — Simonstown

(a)

(b)

91

41 399

Cape Flats

Nil

Nil

Cape Town — Kapteinsklip

Nil

Nil

Cape Town — Bellville

Nil

Nil

Cape Town — Bellville via Monte Vista

Nil

Nil

Amendment of conditions of service of teaching personnel: consultation with staff associations 657. Mr R M BURROWS

asked the Minister of National Education:

Whether he is required to consult with any staff associations prior to the amendment of any conditions of service of teaching personnel; if so, in terms of what statutory provisions?

The MINISTER OF NATIONAL EDUCATION:

No, but according to section 2(3) of the National Policy for General Education Affairs Act, 1984 (Act 76 of 1984) the Minister of National Education shall establish a committee to advise him on any matter relating to the salaries and conditions of employment of staff. He shall also establish a research committee on which the organized teaching profession shall be represented, to assist the said committee in the performance of its functions.

Members: membership of trade unions 719. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of Defence:

  1. (1) Whether any members of the South African Defence Force are permitted to belong to trade unions; if so, (a) what unions operate within the Defence Force and (b) what are the functions of these unions;
  2. (2) whether the Defence Force have signed any contracts or agreements with any trade unions; if so, (a) with what unions, (b) why, (c) on what dates and (d) what are the main terms of these contracts or agreements?
The MINISTER OF DEFENCE:
  1. (1) No (a) and (b) Fall away.
  2. (2) No (a), (b), (c) and (d) Fall away.
Cabinet Ministers permitted to serve on boards of directors of companies 788. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the State President:

  1. (1) Whether Cabinet Ministers are permitted to serve on the boards of directors of local and/or foreign companies; if so, which Cabinet Ministers are directors of (a) local and (b) foreign companies; if not,
  2. (2) whether there have been any contraventions in this regard over the past year; if so, what action was taken in each case;
  3. (3) whether he will make a statement on the matter?
The STATE PRESIDENT:
  1. (1) to (3) No.

Own Affairs:

Sea Point: rent-controlled premises 41. Mr C W EGLIN

asked the Minister of Local Government, Housing and Works:

  1. (a) How many rent-controlled premises were there in the Sea Point constituency as at the latest specified date for which information is available and (b) how many such premises were decontrolled in that constituency in 1987?
The MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, HOUSING AND WORKS:
  1. (a) As at 25 February 1988 there were still 1 129 units, consisting of 608 houses and 521 flats, subject to rent control in the Sea Point, Camps Bay, Bantry Bay and Llandudno areas.
  2. (b) 452 units, consisting of 53 houses and 399 flats, were decontrolled.
State housing sale: houses sold 44. Mr J J WALSH

asked the Minister of Local Government, Housing and Works:

  1. (a) How many houses had been sold by his Department in each province under the State housing sale announced by the then Minister of Community Development on 3 March 1983, as at the latest specified date for which figures are available and (b) how many houses remained to be sold in each province as at that date?
The MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, HOUSING AND WORKS:

As at 31 January 1988 in respect of dwellings erected for Whites from the National Housing Fund:

(a)

Transvaal

870

Orange Free State

178

Cape

2 189

Natal

503

(b)

Transvaal

1 159

Orange Free State

116

Cape

5 601

Natal

210

Overseas visits 46. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Local Government, Housing and Works:

  1. (1) Whether he undertook any overseas visits in 1987; if so, (a) which countries were visited and (b) what was the purpose of each visit;
  2. (2) whether he was accompanied by any representatives of the media on these visits; if so, (a) what were the names of the journalists involved, (b) which newspapers or radio or television networks did they represent, (c) to which countries did each of these persons accompany him and (d) why;
  3. (3) whether any costs were incurred by his Department as a result; if so, what total amount in that year?
The MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, HOUSING AND WORKS:
  1. (1) No
    1. (a) and (b) Falls away.
  2. (2) No
    1. (a); (b); (c) and (d) Falls away.
  3. (3) No; Falls away.
Cape School Board area: school funds 62. Mr J VAN ECK

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:†

What fixed amount per school per quarter was levied by each school within the Cape School Board areas as at 1 December 1987 and 19 January 1988, respectively, in respect of voluntary contributions by parents to school funds?

The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:

Name of school

as on 1-12-87

as on 19-1-88

First child

More than one child

First child

More than one child

HIGHSCHOOLS

Bergvliet

R70,00

+R20,00 for every add. child

R70,00

+R20,00 for every add. child

Camps Bay

R60,00 child

+R20,00 for every add.

R60,00 child

+R20,00 for every add.

Cape Town

R45,00 child

R60,00 per family

R50,00 child

+R15,00 for every add.

Ellerslie Girls’

R60,00

+R15,00 for every add.

R60,00 child

+R15,00 for every add.

Fish Hoek Senior

R55.00 child

+R12,00 for every add.

R60,00 child

+R22,50 for every add.

Fish Hoek Junior

R55,00 child

+R12,00 for every add.

R60,00 child

+R22,50 for every add.

Gardens Commercial

R25,00 child

R33,00 per family

R40,00 child

R60,00 per family

Good Hope Seminary Girls’

R20,00

R20,00 per family

R20,00

R20,00 per family

Groote Schuur

R40,00

+R10,00 for every add.

R40,00

+R10,00 for every add.

Jan van Riebeeck

R30,00 child

R30,00 per family

R50,00 child

R60,00 per family

Maitland

RIO,00

R13,00 for 2 children

RIO,00

R13,00 for 2 children

Milnerton

R45,00

R15,00 for 3 or more children R55,00 for 2 children

R50,00

R15,00 for 3 or more children R61,25 for 2 children

Muizenberg

R35,00

R61,25 for 3 or more children R65,00 per family

R50,00

R66,25 for 3 or more children R80,00 per family

Norman Henshilwood

R40,00

R50,00 per family

R50,00

R75,00 per family

Pinelands

R55,00

R70,00 per family

R65,00

R85,00 per family

Plumstead

R48,00

R69,00 per family

R75,00

R105,00 per family

Queen’s Park Rhodes

R25,00 R37,50 per family R50,00 +R15,00 for every add.

R52,50 per family R60,00 +R25,00 for every add.

Rondebosch Boys’ child

R110,00+R60,00 for every add.

child

R110,00+R60,00 for 2nd child and

Rustenburg Girls’ child

R60,00 +R30,00 for every add.

R40,00 for 3rd child R60,00 +R30,00 for every add.

SA College child

R125,00+R63,00 for every add.

child

R125,00+R63,00 for every add.

Sans Souci Girls’ child

R60,00 +R30.00 for every add. child

child

R85,00 +R42,50 for every add. child

Sea Point Boys’

R60,00

+R20,00 for every add. child

R80,00

+R30.00 for every add child

Simons Town

R20.00

+R10,00 for every add. child

R20,00

+R10,00 for every add. child

Table View

R50,00

+R30,00 for 2nd child and R20,00 for 3rd child or more

R50,00

+R30,00 for 2nd child and R20,00 for 3rd child or more

Thornton

R7,50

Per family

R10,00

Per family

Voortrekker

R15,00

Per family

R15.00

Per family

Westerford

R75,00

R125,00 per family

R100,00

R125,00 per family

Windsor

R20.00

Per family

R30,00

Per family

Wynberg Boys’

R115,00

+R30,00 for 2nd child and R15,00 for 3 or more children

R115,00

+R30,00 for 2nd child and R15,00 for 3 or more children

Wynberg Girls’

R50,00

+R15,00 for every add. child

R50,00

15,00 for every add. child

Ysterplaat

R15,00

Per family

R15,00

Per family

Zwaanswyk

R20,00

Per family

R30,00

Per family

SPECIAL SCHOOLS:

Batavia De Grendel

R12,50 R8,00

Per family Per family

R15,00 R6,25

Per family Per family

TECHNICAL HIGH SCHOOLS:

Oude Molen

R20,00

Per family

R40,00

Per family

PRIMARY SCHOOLS:

Aliwal Road

R20,00

R25,00 for 2 or more children

R20,00

R25,00 for 2 or more children

Bergvliet

R40,00

Per family

R55,00

Per family

Camps Bay

R45,00

+R25,00 for every add. child

R45,00

+R25,00 for every add. child

Camps Bay Preparatory

R22,00

+R16,00 for every add. child

R22,00

+R16,00 for every add. child

Claremont

R36,00

Per family

R36,00

Per family

Ellerton

R42,00

+R15,00 for every add. child

R42,00

+R15,00 for every add. child

Ferndale

R5,00

Per family

R10,00

Per family

Fish Hoek

R22,00

+R11,00 for 2 or more children

R25.00

+R15,00 for 2 or more children

Fish Hoek Preparatory

R25,00

+R5,00 for every add. child

R35,00

+R10,00 for every add. child

Golden Grove

R25,00

+Rz,00 for 2nd and R17,00 for 3rd child

R25,00

+R21,00 for 2nd and R17,00 for 3rd child

Good Hope Seminary

R15,00

+R9,00 for 2 or more children

R30,00

+R10,00 for 2 or more children

Greenfield Girls’

R38,50

+R28,50 for 2nd and R23,00 for 3 or more children

R45,00

+R35,00 for 2nd and R30,00 for 3 or more children

Groote Schuur

R30,00

+R10.00 for 2 or more children

R30,00

+R10,00 for 2 or more children

Grove

R60,00

+R10,00 for 2 or more children

R60,00

+R10,00 for 2 or more children

Jan van Riebeeck

R30,00

+R10,00 for 2nd and R5,00 for 3rd or more children

R30.00

+R10,00 for 2nd and R5,00 for 3rd or more children

John Graham

R20,00

Per family

R20,00

Per family

Kalk Bay

R20,00

+R7,50 for every add. child

R20,00

+R7,50 for every add. child

Kirstenhof

R30,00

+R10,00 for every add. child

R40,00

+R10,00 for every add. child

Kommetjie

R20,00

+R5,00 for 2 or more children

R20,00

+R5,00 for 2 or more children

Kronendal

R50,00

+R15,00 for every add. child

R50,00

+R15,00 for every add. child

Llandudno

R45,00

+R25,00 for every add. child

R50,00

+R35,00 for every add. child

Maitland

R5,00

+R3,00 for 2nd and R2,00 for 3rd or more children

R1,00

+R1,00 for every add. child

Mary Kihn

R20,00

+R10,00 for 2 or more children

R40,00

+R10,00 for 2 or more children

Milnerton

R20,00

Per family

R20,00

Per family

Mountain Road

R8,00

Per family

RIO,00

Per family

Muizenberg

R30,00

+R10,00 for 2 or more children

R30,00

+R10.00 for 2 or more children

Oakhurst

R39,00

+R27,00 for 2nd and R25,00 for 3rd child

R44,00

+R41,00 for 2nd and R38,00 for 3rd child

Observatory

R15,00

Per family

R15,00

Per family

Oranje

R5,00

Per family

R5,00

Per family

Paul Greyling

R12,00

Per family

R20,00

+R15,00 for 2nd and R10,00 for 3rd or more children

Pinelands

R45,00

+R15,00 for 2 or more children

R50,00

+R20,00 for 2nd and R15,00 for 3rd and R10,00 for 4th child

Pinelands North

R30,00

+R2,00 for every add. child

R40,00

+R15,00 for 2nd and R5,00 for 3rd child

Pinehurst

R30,00

+R12,00 for 2 or more children

R40,00

+R10,00 for 2 or more children

Plumstead Preparatory

R20,00

Per family

R20,00

Per family

Robbeneiland

R6,25

+R2,50 for 2nd and R1,25 for 3rd child or more

R15,00

+R10,00 for 2nd, R5,00 for 3rd child or more

Rondebosch Boys’

R72,00

+R56,00 for 2nd and R35,00 for 3rd child

R72,00

+R56,00 for 2nd and R35,00 for 3rd child

Rondebosch Oos

R20,00

+R20,00 for every add. child

R20,00

+R20,00 for every add. child

Rosebank

R10,00

Per family

R10,00

Per family

Rustenburg Girls’

R45,00

+R35,00 for every add. child

R45,00

+R35,00 for every add. child

SA College

R75,00

+R30,00 for 2nd and R20,00 for 3rd child

R75,00

+R30,00 for 2nd and R20,00 for 3rd child

Seamount

R23,00

Per family

R23,00

Per family

Sea Point

R45,00

+R10,00 for 2nd or R5,00 for 3rd or more children

R55,00

+R40,00 for 2nd and R20,00 for 3rd child or more

Simon van der Stel

R10,00

+R5,00 for 2 or more children

R10,00

+R15,00 for 2 or more children

Southfield

R12,00

Per family

R20,00

Per family

Sunlands

R15,00

Per family

R15,00

Per family

Sun Valley

R30,00

Per family

R30,00

Per family

Sweet Valley

R30,00

Per family

R40,00

+R10,00 for every add. child

Table View

R25,00

Per family

R30,00

Per family

Tamboerskloof

R30,00

+R10,00 for every add. child

R30,00

+R10,00 for ever add. child

Thornton

R6,00

Per family

R6,00

Per family

Timour Hall

R25,00

Per family

R25,00

Per family

Tygerhof

R24,00

+R6,00 for 2nd or R5,00 for 3rd or more children

R24,00

+R6,00 for 2nd and R5,00 for 3rd or more children

Vredehoek

R10,00

+R5,00 for 2nd or more children

R10,00

+R5,00 for 2nd or more children

Weltevreden

R5,00

+R5,00 for 2 or more children

R5,00

+R5,00 for 2nd or more children

Westcott

R35,00

+R10,00 for every add. child

R35,00

+R10,00 for every add. child

Windsor Preparatory

R18,00

Per family

R18,00

Per family

Windsor

R20,00

Per family

R20,00

Per family

Wynberg Boys’

R40,00

+R10,00 for every add. child

R50,00

+R15,00 for every add. child

Wynberg Girls’

R35,00

+R15,00 for every add. child

R35,00

+R15,00 for every add. child

Ysterplaat

R10,00

+R5,00 for every add. chik

1R10,00

+R5,00 for every add. child

Ysterplaat Voorbereiding

R20,00

Per family

R40,00

Per family

Zonnekus

R15,00

Per family

R15,00

Per family

Zwaanswyk

R15,00

Per family

R30,00

Per family

ART CENTRE:

Frank Joubert

R10,00

Per family

R10,00

Per family

Teachers’ colleges: first-year students enrolled 63. Mr J VAN ECK

asked the Minister of Education and Culture†

  1. (1)
    1. (a) How many first-year students were enrolled for the Education Diploma and the Higher Education Diploma at the teachers’ colleges in (i) Cape Town, (ii) Paarl, (iii) Wellington, (iv) Port Elizabeth and (v) Oudtshoorn as at 31 January 1988 and (b) how many of these students have (i) Afrikaans and (ii) English as their home language, as indicated on Departmental Form E 777;
  2. (2) in respect of each of the above-mentioned colleges (a) what was the total (i) capacity and (ii) enrolment and (iii) number of students registered for the (aa) Education Diploma and (bb) Higher Diploma of Education as at 31 January 1988 and (b) how many of the total number of students of all year groups enrolled for the Education Diploma and Higher Education Diploma (i) have (aa) Afrikaans and (bb) English as their home language and (ii) are in receipt of bursaries from his Department;
  3. (3) how many (a) full-time and (b) part-time members of staff were there at each of the above-mentioned colleges as at 31 January 1988;
  4. (4) (a) how many students who have bursaries from his Department are studying for the bachelor’s degree in Primary Education at (i) the University of (aa) Stellenbosch, (bb) Cape Town and (cc) Port Elizabeth and (ii) Rhodes University and (b) how many such students were there in each year of study of this course?
The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:

(1) (a) (i)

Cape Town

63

(ii)

Paarl

(iii)

Wellington

84

(iv)

Port Elizabeth

52

(V)

Oudtshoorn

(b)

(i)

(ii)

Kaapstad

63

Paarl

Wellington

82

2

Port Elizabeth

23

29

Oudtshoorn

(2)

(a)

(i) (ii) (iii)

(aa)

(bb)

Kaapstad

450

275

192

83

Paarl

550

289

159

130

Wellington

550

311

233

78

Port Elizabeth

350

206

153

53

Oudtshoorn

350

96

32

64,

(b)

(i)

(ii)

(aa)

(bb)

1 101;

718

405

(3)

(a)

(b)

Kaapstad

36

3

Paarl

40

Wellington

46

1

Port Elizabeth

34

3

Oudtshoorn

20

1;

(4) (a)

(i)

(ii)

(aa)

(bb)

(cc)

3;

49

11

16

3;

(b)

Year of Study

(1)

(2)

(3)

(4)

Stellenbosch

7

9

7

26

Cape Town

1

2

4

4

Port Elizabeth

1

5

10

Rhodes

1

2

Natal Technikon: selling of electronic equipment on open market 64. Mr M J ELLIS

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

Whether the Natal Technikon or employees of this technikon are permitted to sell on the open market electronic equipment developed with the aid of technikon equipment and facilities; if so, (a) what is the policy of his Department in this regard, (b) what equipment has been sold by this technikon in the latest specified financial year for which information is available, (c) what total amount has been earned from these sales and (d) who benefits from the sale of this equipment?

The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:

The Department has no information on this issue, since the management of technikons is vested in their councils in terms of section 8(1) and 8(8) of the Technikons (National Education) Act, 1967 (Act No 40 of 1967);

(a), (b), (c) and (d) fall away.

Technikons: courses offered related to textile technology 65. Mr M J ELLIS

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:

  1. (1) Whether any technikons falling under the control of his Department offer courses related to textile technology; if not, why not; if so, which technikons;
  2. (2) whether any applicants are refused admission to these courses because of the (a) courses being over-subscribed and (b) unavailability of residence facilities at these technikons; if so, (i) how many applicants were turned down in each case in the latest specified year for which information is available and (ii) what action has been taken as a result;
  3. (3) whether existing courses are being subsidized by any organization or body other than his Department; if so, (a) by whom, (b) to what extent and (c) why;
  4. (4) whether he or any technikons have received any representations from any persons or bodies for courses in textile technology to be offered at any other technikons; if so, (a) from whom, (b) when and (c) what was the response thereto;
  5. (5) whether the requirements of the textile industry in respect of technologists are being met by the number of graduates from technikons; if not, what action is being taken in this regard?
The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (1) yes, the Natal Technikon offers the National Diploma and National Higher Diploma: Textile Technology;
  2. (2)
    1. (a) and (b) no,
      1. (i) and (ii) fall away;
  3. (3) yes,
    1. (a) the education trust established by the textile industry,
    2. (b) salaries of teaching staff are subsidised,
    3. (c) in order to retain the services of well-trained staff;
  4. (4) yes, the Port Elizabeth Technikon has received such representations,
    1. (a) representatives of the local textile industry,
    2. (b) during 1987,
    3. (c) no representations in this regard have been received from the Port Elizabeth Technikon;
  5. (5) yes, industry estimates that approximately 72 technologists are needed annually until the year 2000. During the past three years 215 technologists have been trained at the Natal Technikon. Should the need arise other technikons may apply to offer these approved courses.
Sporting facilities/apparatus/equipment/training of sports officials: total expenditure 67. Mr A GERBER

asked the Minister of Education and Culture:†

What was the total expenditure in respect of (a) sporting facilities, apparatus and equipment, and (b) the training of teachers as sports officials, at (i) primary and (ii) high schools under the control of his Department, in the 1984-85, 1985-86 and 1986-87 financial years, respectively?

The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE:
  1. (a)
    1. (i) and (ii) No total expenditure in respect of sporting facilities, apparatus and equipment can be given. While the provincial education departments make a contribution toward the provision of sporting facilities, further costs in this respect as well as costs regarding apparatus and equipment are borne by the parent community. Details regarding this expenditure are not submitted to the departments,
  2. (b)
    1. (i) and (ii) nil.
HOUSE OF DELEGATES

†Indicates translated version.

For written reply:

General Affairs:

Government guarantees: amount spent/value 1. Mr M RAJAB

asked the Minister of Foreign Affairs:

  1. (1)
    1. (a) What was the total (i) amount spent by the Government on, and (ii) value of, Government guarantees issued to each independent Black state in the 1984-85, 1985-86 and 1986-87 financial years, respectively, and (b) why were these guarantees issued;
  2. (2)
    1. (a) what amount is it estimated will be spent on, and (b) what is the estimated value of, Government guarantees to be issued to each of these states in the 1987-88 financial year?
The MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS:
  1. (1)(a)(i) None.
  2. (1)(a)(ii)

(R million)

1984/85

1985/86

1986/87

T

B

V

c

T

B

V

C

T

B

V

C

Guaranteed overdraft facilities/loans

217.000

272.000

62.000

227.000

  1. (1) (b) Due to a combination of factors the TBVC States have over the past few years been experiencing extensive budgetary deficits. During 1986 the TBVC States approached the South African Government for financial assistance in order to prevent a grave cash flow crisis. It became evident that multi-year adjustment programmes were required to restore over time the necessary balance between revenue and expenditure. Since then Joint Financial Adjustment Committees under the chairmanship of Dr S S Brand of the Development Bank of Southern Africa were established to:
    • — Design programmes to restore equiplibrium between revenue and expenditure;
    • — revise and/or streamline the existing financial management and control systems;
    • — harmonize government policy on issues such as taxes, prices and subsidies, remuneration of civil servants, etc; and
    • — identify socio-economic structural imbalances and to design appropriate programmes to rectify these imbalances as well as to make a more efficient and effective use of scarce resources possible.
      Against this background the revised 1986/87 budgets of the TBVC States were properly evaluated and expenditures were brought down to the bare minimum required. It was, however, found that an amount of R778 million was still required in order to balance their budgets. The aforementioned amount was not available in the RSA Exchequer and it was decided to mobilize this amount at certain commercial banks in the form of overdraft facilities and/or loans.
      The repayment of this bridging finance is guaranteed by the SA Reserve Bank and supported by a backup guarantee of the South African Government. The essence of the matter is that the negotiation as well as the repayment of the bridging finance is being handled within a joint agreed framework of multi-year adjustment programmes. Further information on these programmes as well as the issuing of guarantees is contained in a speech delivered by the Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs on 17 June 1987 as reported in columns 1639 to 1645 of the House of Assembly Hansard No 5 (15 to 19 June) of 1987.
  2. (2) (a) None.
  3. (2) (b)

(R Million)

1987/88

T

B

V

C

To be guaranteed overdraft facilities/ loans

190.000

100.000

62.000

188.000