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House of Assembly: Vol35 - WEDNESDAY 19 MAY 1971

WEDNESDAY, 19TH MAY, 1971

For written reply:

The “Afrikaanse Woordeboek” 602. Mr. E. G. MALAN

asked the Minister of National Education:

  1. (1) (a) What progress has been made with the compilation and printing of the Afrikaanse Woordeboek, (b) what letter is now ready for publication and (c) when is the dictionary expected to be completed;
  2. (2) whether any bodies or persons other than those referred to in his statement of 13th February, 1959, contributed money towards the completion of the dictionary; if so, (a) what amount and (b) which bodies or persons;
  3. (3) (a) what amount has been contributed by the State towards the completion of the dictionary and (b) what is the estimated further cost of the dictionary;
  4. (4) by whom is the dictionary (a) printed and (b) published.
 The MINISTER OF NATIONAL EDUCATION:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) and (b) The Report of the Department of Cultural Affairs for 1969, which has been laid upon the Table contains that information.
    2. (c) Not possible to reply.
  2. (2) No.
  3. (3)
    1. (a) R1 515 026 to 31st March, 1971.
    2. (b) Not calculated.
  4. (4) (a) and (b) the Government Printer.
 Television: International conferences attended by officials of the S.A.B.C. 606. Mr. E. G. MALAN

asked the Minister of National Education:

(a) How many international conferences in regard to television were attended by expert officials of the South African Broadcasting Corporation as stated in the Report of the Commission of Inquiry into Matters relating to Television and (b) during what period were the conferences held.

 The MINISTER OF NATIONAL EDUCATION:

(a) The information is not readily available: the conferences touched on various radio and television matters, and (b) about 15 years.

 Investigations conducted by Post Office re system of colour television for S.A. 622. Mr. E. G. MALAN

asked the Minister of Posts and Telegraphs:

(a) What investigations were conducted by the Post Office in regard to the best system for colour television in South Africa, (b) (i) by whom and (ii) in which countries were the investigations conducted and (c) what were the details of the conclusions in regard to the (i) PAL, (ii) SECAM and (iii) NTSC system.

 The MINISTER OF POSTS AND TELEGRAPHS:
  1. (a) As part of its standing arrangements to keep abreast of developments in telecommunications technology, the Post Office has since 1948 sent representatives to meetings of the relative committee of the International Telecommunications Union and also to demonstrations of certain systems. The Post Office’s studies concern only the suitability of specific systems for the transmission of television over its telecommunications’ channels. Specific investigations covering the field mentioned in the hon. member’s question, have not been conducted by the Post Office.
  2. (b) and (c) fall away.
 Television: Evidence submitted to Commission of Enquiry on systems used in other countries 625. Mr. E. G. MALAN

asked the Minister of National Education:

Whether evidence was submitted to the Commission of Enquiry into matters relating to Television in regard to the countries making use of the PAL, SECAM and NTSC systems; if so, what countries make use of each of these systems.

 The MINISTER OF NATIONAL EDUCATION:

Yes, but I have not at my disposal a list of all the names of the countries making use of these systems.

 FRIDAY, 21ST MAY, 1971

For oral reply:

Hluhluwe and Umfolozi Game Reserves *1. Mr. D. E. MITCHELL

asked the Minister of Agriculture:

  1. (1) Whether his attention has been drawn to a report relating to the future of the Hluhluwe and Umfolozi Game Reserves;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement in regard to the matter.
 The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE:
  1. (1) Yes.
  2. (2) No.
 Transfer of Hluhluwe and Umfolozi Game Reserves *2. Mr. D. E. MITCHELL

asked the Minister of Bantu Administration and Development:

  1. (1) Whether his attention has been drawn to a report relating to the future of the Hluhluwe and Umfolozi Game Reserves;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement in regard to the matter in so far as his Department is involved.
 The MINISTER OF BANTU ADMINISTRATION AND DEVELOPMENT:
  1. (1) Yes.
  2. (2) In respect of the report that the two Game Reserves will be transferred as such to the Zulu Territorial Authority, I can only say that I am not aware of any consideration or decision of such a nature by the Government.
 Erection of sea-weed treatment plant at Stanford, Cape *3. Mr. H. A. VAN HOOGSTRATEN

asked the Minister of Economic Affairs:

  1. (1) Whether his attention has been drawn to the reported intention of a company to erect a sea-weed treatment plant at Stanford, Cape;
  2. (2) whether this company is in possession of a permit to collect sea-weed along the coast line between Hangklip and Agulhas; if so, (a) what is the name of the company, (b) what are the names of the directors of the company and (c) between which points on the coast line has permission for the collection of sea-weed been granted.
 The DEPUTY MINISTER OF ECONOMIC AFFAIRS:
  1. (1) Yes.
  2. (2) No.

(a), (b) and (c) fall away.

 *4. Mr. H. A. VAN HOOGSTRATEN

—Reply standing over.

 Erection of sea-weed treatment plant at Stanford, Cape *5. Mr. H. A. VAN HOOGSTRATEN

asked the Minister of Water Affairs:

  1. (1) Whether his attention has been drawn to the intended erection of a seaweed treatment plant at Stanford, Cape;
  2. (2) whether steps have been or will be taken to ensure that this plant will not result in poisonous or harmful effluent being discharged into the Klein River thereby endangering the existing marine and bird life in the Klein River lagoon; if so, what steps.
 The MINISTER OF WATER AFFAIRS:
  1. (1) Yes.
  2. (2) The company must comply with the provisions of section 21 of the Water Act, 1956 (Act 54 of 1956). A permit, No. 242B, has been issued to the company, which lays down the following restrictions:
    1. (a) The chemical oxygen demand of the effluent must not exceed 160 milligrams per litre.
    2. (b) The sodium content of the effluent must not exceed 160 milligrams per litre.
    3. (c) All screenings must be stored on a suitable waste-disposal area.

These restrictions will, in the light of investigations carried out in this connection, prevent pollution of the Klein River lagoon.

 Beef exported from Umtata meat factory *6. Mr. W. G. KINGWILL

asked the Minister of Agriculture:

  1. (1) (a) How many tons of beef have been exported from the Umtata meat factory during each year since 1968 and (b) to which countries has the beef been exported;
  2. (2) (a) by whom is this meat factory (i) owned and (ii) managed and (b) (i) from where and (ii) by whom are the supplies of cattle obtained;
  3. (3) whether the abattoir at this meat factory is subject to the provisions of the Animal Slaughter, Meat and Animal Products Hygiene Act of 1967.
 The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE:

There were no exports to foreign countries.

(1) (a) 1968:

229.

1969:

475.

1970:

39.

(b) South Africa. [Interjections.] I have said there were no exports from South Africa to other countries.

  1. (2)
    1. (a)
      1. (i) Transkei Government.
      2. (ii) Bantu Investment Corporation during 1968 and, since January, 1969, by Suid-Afrikaanse Vleisprodusente (Sentraal Koöperatief) Beperk.
    2. (b)
      1. (i) Transkei.
      2. (ii) Mainly by Suid-Afrikaanse Vleisprodusente (Sentraal Koöperatief) Beperk through private purchases.
  2. (3) Yes.
 Complaints lodged relating to alleged contraventions of Electoral Act in S.W.A. during 1970 elections *7. Mr. G. D. G. OLIVER

asked the Minister of Police:

Whether any complaints relating to alleged contraventions of the Electoral Act in respect of (a) the general election and (b) the Legislative Assembly election were lodged with the police in South-West Africa during 1970; if so, (i) how many complaints were lodged, (ii) where were they lodged and (iii) what was the result of each complaint.

 The MINISTER OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT (for the Minister of Police):
  1. (a) Yes.
    1. (i) One.
    2. (ii) Keetmanshoop.
    3. (iii) The Public Prosecutor declined to prosecute.
  2. (b) No.
    1. (i), (ii) and (iii) fall away.

Replies standing over from Tuesday, 18th May, 1971

Running time for passenger trains between Port Shepstone and Durban

The DEPUTY MINISTER OF TRANSPORT replied to Question *9, by Mr. D. E. Mitchell.

Question:
  1. (1) (a) What was the running time for passenger trains between Durban and Port Shepstone (i) before and (ii) after the introduction of electric trains on this line and (b) what is the planned travelling time for electric passenger trains between these two points when the rerailing, re-sleepering and reballasting has been completed;
  2. (2) (a) (i) how many culverts and (ii) which bridges have to be strengthened or rebuilt before an adjusted timetable can be brought into operation and (b) when is it expected that the revised timetable will be introduced;
  3. (3) whether the service between Durban and Port Shepstone can be speeded up before the adjusted timetable is introduced by using day-coaches instead of heavy electric units.
 Reply:
  1. (1)
    1. (a)
      1. (i) The average scheduled time for passenger trains, including stopping time at intermediate stations, was 223 minutes from Durban to Port Shepstone and 216 minutes in the reverse direction before electrification.
      2. (ii) A revised passenger train service based on the computed electric running times for the section Kelso —Port Shepstone, was introduced between Durban and Port Shepstone on 3rd May, 1971. The average scheduled time is now 224 minutes from Durban to Port Shepstone and 214 minutes in the reverse direction. The computed point-to-point running times for passenger trains hauled by electric locomotives, class 1E, from Kelso to Port Shepstone are 8½ minutes longer than the previous running times of trains hauled by steam locomotives and 6½ minutes longer in the reverse direction, but these increases in the running times have been compensated for by reducing the stopping time at Kelso, where time was previously also allowed for the changing of engines.
    2. (b) The rerailing, resleepering and reballasting of the line between Kelso and Port Shepstone is expected to be completed in October, 1973, when the maximum permissible speed on straights for passenger trains will be increased from the present 35 miles per hour, for trains hauled by class 1E electric locomotives, to 55 miles per hour for trains hauled by class 5E electric locomotives. Although a saving in running times will be achieved after this programme has been completed, details are not as yet readily available.
  2. (2) (a) and (b) No culverts or bridges are being strengthened or rebuilt. The timetable will, however, be revised after the rerailing, resleepering and reballasting programme has been completed.
  3. (3) No; such coaches, viz. electric suburban stock, will not be available until 1973.
 Mr. W. V. RAW:

Arising from the reply, may I ask the hon. the Deputy Minister whether this indicates that the ballast and sleepers are in a good or bad condition?

 The DEPUTY MINISTER:

It indicates that the hon. member is slow-witted, not knowing … [Interjections.]

 Retreats and rehabilitation centres for White persons

The ACTING MINISTER OF SOCIAL WELFARE AND PENSIONS replied to Question *16, by Mr. G. N. Oldfield.

Question:
  1. (1) (a) How many (i) retreats and (ii) rehabilitation centres for White persons are there in the Republic and (b) how many of them are administered by (i) the State and (ii) welfare organizations;
  2. (2) (a) where are the retreats and rehabilitation centres situated and (b) how many men and women, respectively, are at present accommodated at each institution;
  3. (3) how many of the persons at present accommodated were (a) committed to the institutions and (b) admitted on a voluntary basis;
  4. (4) (a) what were the reasons for (i) committal and (ii) voluntary admission during 1970 and (b) how many persons were admitted in each category;
  5. (5) how many persons were (a) released on licence and (b) discharged from such centres during 1970.
 Reply:
  1. (1)
    1. (a)
      1. (i) Two retreats and three certified retreats.
      2. (ii) One.
    2. (b)
      1. (i) To retreats and one rehabilitation centre.
      2. (ii) Three certified retreats.
  2. (2)
    1. (a) The Magaliesoord Retreats for men and women are situated at Cullinan; the Swartfontein Rehabilitation Centre is situated at White River; Northlea and Mount Collins Certified Retreats are situated at Johannesburg; and the Salvation Army Certified Retreat is situated at Muldersvlei.
    2. (b) Magaliesoord Retreat for men; 214 men.
      Magaliesoord Retreat for women: 52 women.
      Swartfontein Rehabilitation Centre: 70 men.
      Northlea Certified Retreat. 97 men.
      Mount Collins Certified Retreat: 52 women.
      Salvation Army Certified Retreat: 84 men.
  3. (3)
    1. (a) 419.
    2. (b) 150.
  4. (4)
    1. (a)
      1. (i) Addiction to alcohol; addiction to drugs; addiction to both alcohol and drugs; and work shyness.
      2. (ii) Addiction to alcohol; addiction to drugs; and addiction to both alcohol and drugs.
    2. (b) Addiction to—
      Alcohol: 877.
      Drugs: 37.
      Both alcohol and drugs: 10.
      Work shyness: 67.
  5. (5)
    1. (a) 409.
    2. (b) 613.

For written reply:

Trade and Technical schools for Bantu 605. Mr. T. G. HUGHES

asked the Minister of Bantu Education:

(a) What (i) trade and (ii) technical schools are functioning at present, (b) how many pupils or students are there in each institution and (c) what courses are they taking.

 The MINISTER OF BANTU EDUCATION:

The information as on the first Tuesday of March, 1970, is tabulated below (Transkei excluded).

Trade Training— Boys

General and Motor Mechanics.

General Mechanics

Panelbeating and Upholstery

Concreting, Bricklaying and Plastering

Electricians

Leatherwork and Upholstery

Plumbing, Drainlaying and Sheetmetalwork

Cabinetmaking and Joinery

Tailoring

Brickmaking

Painting and Glazing

Total

NATAL

Umlazi

51

22

—

38

45

—

31

36

35

—

14

272

Amanzimtoti

—

—

—

32

—

—

—

31

—

—

—

63

Edendale

49

—

—

41

39

42

26

38

—

14

13

262

Nongoma

40

—

—

46

—

24

26

39

29

—

—

204

TRANSVAAL

Bethesda

—

—

—

—

—

—

—

28

—

—

—

28

Vocational Training Centre (Dube)

—

—

—

73

6

—

48

70

—

—

—

197

CISKEI

Lovedale

—

—

—

38

—

—

34

31

—

—

—

103

TSWANA

Boitseanape

10

15

13

46

6

35

7

42

26

—

—

200

Moroka

—

—

—

14

—

—

15

16

—

—

—

45

LEBOWA

Paxona

—

—

—

—

—

—

—

16

—

—

—

16

Polokwane

42

11

11

51

41

42

37

41

57

—

—

333

MATSHANGANA

Giyani

—

—

—

26

—

—

—

20

—

5

—

51

VENDA

Finyazwanda (Sibasa)

51

—

—

43

—

23

22

44

46

8

—

237

TOTAL

243

48

24

448

137

166

246

452

193

27

27

2011

Vocational training— Girls

Home Management

Assistants in Pre-school Institutions

Dressmaking

Dressmaking (Short Course)

Spinning and Weaving

Arts and Crafts

Total

NATAL

Lamont

8

—

—

—

—

—

8

Umlazi

—

24

—

—

—

24

Evangelical

—

—

—

—

—

22

22

Marianhill

—

—

25

—

27

—

52

Kwa Shaka

—

—

—

15

—

15

Makhumbuza

—

—

44

—

—

44

Ndaleni

17

—

44

—

—

—

61

TRANSVAAL

Jabulani

—

22

—

—

—

—

22

Lemana

—

—

20

—

—

—

20

Loretto

—

—

—

15

—

—

15

CISKEI

Kama

—

—

30

—

—

—

30

Lovedale

—

—

35

—

—

—

35

BASOTHO BA BORWA

Mopeli Tribal

—

—

—

16

—

—

16

LEBOWA

Kgarahara

—

—

30

—

—

—

30

Sefakaola

—

—

28

—

—

—

28

TSWANA

Bafokeng

11

11

—

18

—

—

40

Gemini

—

—

—

27

—

—

27

Ithuteng

—

—

—

52

—

—

52

VENDA

Vendaland

—

—

15

—

—

—

15

TOTAL

36

57

271

143

27

22

556

Technical Schools—Boys

General Drawing, Building and Machine Drawing

Building Construction

Electricians

Watchmakers

Woodwork

Plumbing and Sheetmetalwork

Motor Mechanics

Radiotricians

CAPE

Port Elizabeth

101

26

—

—

40

—

35

TRANSVAAL

Jabulani

147

—

48

—

37

—

62

—

Vlakfontein

163

23

43

39

13

14

42

31

NATAL

Umlazi

—

—

—

—

22

—

22

—

TOTAL

411

49

91

39

112

14

161

31

Advanced Technical Schools

Health Assistants

Health Inspectors

Engineering Technicians

Surveying Technicians

Total

NATAL

Edendale

21

42

—

—

63

TRANSVAAL

Mmadikoti

17

40

32

9

98

TOTAL

38

82

32

9

161
High schools in Bantu homelands 610. Mrs. H. SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Bantu Education:

  1. (1) (a) How many high schools have been established in each of the Bantu homelands and (b) how many pupils (i) can be accommodated and (ii) were enrolled in 1970 in these schools in each homeland;
  2. (2) (a) how many of these schools in each homeland have hostel accommodation, (b) how many pupils (i) can be accommodated and (ii) were accommodated during 1970 and (c) what boarding fees are payable.
 The MINISTER OF BANTU EDUCATION:

(1)

(a)†

(b)

(i) and (ii)

Zulu

79

19 647

Ciskei

34

7 954

Tswana

50

14 055

Witsieshoek

3

669

Lebowa

39

10 525

Matshangana

11

1 949

Venda

12

2 465

Other (in Transvaal)

5

1 498

(2)

(a)

(b)*

(i) and (ii)

Zulu

22

3 619

Ciskei

11

2 947

Tswana

18

3 704

Witsieshoek

2

484

Lebowa

19

2 849

Matshangana

4

583

Venda

7

671

Other (in Transvaal)

2

238

(c) The boarding fees vary from R60 to R68 per year at departmental hostels.

† Secondary and junior secondary schools.

* Students in teachers’ training and trade schools included.

The schools and hostels are accommodating the maximum number of pupils (Transkei excluded).

 Retreats and rehabilitation centres for Bantu persons 631. Mr. G. N. OLDFIELD

asked the Minister of Bantu Administration and Development:

  1. (1) (a) How many (i) retreats and (ii) rehabilitation centres for Bantu persons are there in the Republic and (b) how many of them are administered by (i) the State and (ii) welfare organizations;
  2. (2) (a) where are the retreats and rehabilitation centres situated and (b) how many men and women, respectively, are at present accommodated at each institution;
  3. (3) how many of the persons at present accommodated were (a) committed to the institutions and (b) admitted on a voluntary basis;
  4. (4) (a) what were the reasons for (i) committal and (ii) voluntary admission during 1970 and (b) how many persons were admitted in each category;
  5. (5) how many persons were (a) released on licence and (b) discharged from such centres during 1970.
 The MINISTER OF BANTU ADMINISTRATION AND DEVELOPMENT:
  1. (1) (a) (i) Nil. (ii) Nil.
  2. (b) (i) Nil. (ii) Nil.

Rest of the question falls away.