House of Assembly: Vol35 - TUESDAY 23 MARCH 1971

TUESDAY, 23RD MARCH, 1971

For oral reply:

*1. Mrs. H. SUZMAN

—Withdrawn.

*2. Mrs. H. SUZMAN

—Withdrawn.

*3. Mrs. H. SUZMAN

—Withdrawn.

City Council of Vereeniging: Refusal of application for official visit abroad re family planning *4. Mr. E. G. MALAN

asked the Minister of the Interior:

  1. (1) (a) What was the purpose of the proposed official visit abroad in respect of which the application of the city council of Vereeniging was refused and (b) for what reasons was the application refused;
  2. (2) whether he received any representations from the council after the refusal; if so, (a) what representations and (b) what was his reply.
The MINISTER OF THE INTERIOR:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) Attendance of the “International Planned Parenthood Conference” held in Santiago in April, 1967.
    2. (b) Participation on local authority level was not considered advisable as family planning is of national importance and as such should be handled on a national level.
  2. (2) No. (a) and (b) fall away.
Posts of State Veterinarian in Natal *5. Mr. R. M. CADMAN

asked the Minister of Agriculture:

  1. (1) (a) How many posts of State Veterinarian are there in Natal and (b) what area is each post intended to cater for;
  2. (2) whether all the posts are filled; if not, (a) how many are not filled and (b) what steps are being taken to fill them.
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) 13 Posts for field services.
      5 Posts for laboratory services.
    2. (b) The allocations to the posts of field services are as follows:

Area

Districts

Nongoma

Mhalabatini

Hlabisa

Ubombo

Ingwavuma

Vryheid

Vryheid

Paulpietersburg

Ngotshe

Babanango

Nqutu

Dundee

Dundee

Newcastle

Utrecht

Ladysmith

Kliprivier

Bergville

Estcourt

Estcourt

Weenen

Lionsriver

Greytown

Umvoti

Msinga Kranskop

New Hanover

Eshowe

Eshowe

Mtunzini

Lower Umfolozi

Mtonjaneni

Nkandla

Durban

Durban

Umlazi

Pinetown

Ndwedwe

Lower Tugela

Makvuvla

Pietermaritzburg

Pietermaritzburg

Camperdown

Richmond

Mpendle

Ixopo

Ixopo

Gulelo

Underberg

Port Shepstone

Port Shepstone

Umzinto

Alfred

  1. (2) No.
    1. (a) Two, namely Dundee and Nongoma.
    2. (b) Applicants have been recruited. The posts will be filled during the next few months.
Ngwelezane Hospital *6. Mr. R. M. CADMAN

asked the Minister of Bantu Administration and Development:

  1. (1) (a) When was the Ngwelezane Hospital first opened for the admission of Bantu patients and (b) how many patients can now be catered for at this hospital;
  2. (2) whether facilities are available at the hospital for (a) X-rays, (b) surgical operations, (c) pathological examinations and (d) intensive care; if not, (i) why not and (ii) where are these services available;
  3. (3) whether it is intended that this hospital be developed into a fully-equipped general hospital; if not, (a) which general hospital is it expected will cater for the Empangeni/Richard’s Bay complex and (b) for what purpose will this hospital then be used.
The MINISTER OF BANTU ADMINISTRATION AND DEVELOPMENT:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) April 1970.
    2. (b) 450.
  2. (2)
    1. (a) No.
    2. (b) No.
    3. (c) No.
    4. (d) No.
      1. (i) Hospital was erected to accommodate only convalescent patients from the Empangeni Hospital.
      2. (ii) Empangeni Hospital.
  3. (3) Yes. (a) and (b) fall away.
Training of Coloured Cadets, Faure *7. Mr. W. G. KINGWILL

asked the Minister of Coloured Affairs:

(a) How many trainees can be accommodated at the Training Centre for Coloured Cadets at Faure. (b) how many are at present being trained and (c) how many of them were in employment or gainfully occupied when called up for training.

The DEPUTY MINISTER OF COLOURED AFFAIRS:
  1. (a) 800. (Cadets are admitted in groups of 250 per quarter.)
  2. (b) Complement on 18th March, 1971, was 426.
  3. (c) 148. Of this number only 17 applied for exemption which was granted by the Selection Board.
Arrests in terms of sec. 6 of Terrorism Act, 1967 *8. Mrs. H. SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Police:

  1. (1) (a) How many males and females respectively in each race group were arrested in each province during February, 1971 in terms of section 6 of Act 83 of 1967 and (b) on what dates were they arrested;
  2. (2) whether any of these persons have subsequently been released; if so, (a) how many and (b) on what dates;
  3. (3) whether any of the persons detained have been charged; if so, (a) how many and (b) with what offences; if not, when is it expected that charges will be preferred against them.
The MINISTER OF POLICE:
  1. (1) and (2) Although I am prepared to confirm that persons have been arrested in terms of the legislation concerned, and that some of these persons have subsequently been released, I am not prepared to furnish particulars because such information would be of value to those organizations and persons who strive to promote the infiltration of terrorists.
  2. (3) Yes.
    1. (a) 5.
    2. (b) Contravention of section 24 of Act 22 of 1913—Prohibited immigrants.
Investigations by Security Branch into activities of Anglican Dean of Johannesburg *9. Mrs. H. SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Police:

  1. (1) (a) How many (i) offices and (ii) private homes were searched by members of the Security Branch in connection with investigations into the activities of the Anglican Dean of Johannesburg and (b) what are the names of the (i) organizations whose offices and (ii) persons whose homes were searched;
  2. (2) whether any persons have been charged as a result of these searches; if so, (a) how many and (b) with what offences.
The MINISTER OF POLICE:
  1. (1) (a) and (b) Except to confirm that certain offices, private homes and persons in four cities were searched by members of the Security Branch, I am not prepared to furnish further particulars concerning the police investigation.
  2. (2) No, but investigations have not yet been concluded.
Mooring of small craft in fisheries harbours *10. Mr. J. W. E. WILEY

asked the Minister of Economic Affairs:

  1. (1) Under what conditions does his Department permit the mooring of small craft in fisheries harbours;
  2. (2) which harbours accommodate (a) only commercial and (b) commercial and private vessels.
The MINISTER OF ECONOMIC AFFAIRS:
  1. (1) Fishing harbours, as the name denotes, are established to serve first and foremost the interests of the fishing industry and my Department is reluctant to permit the mooring of small craft in these harbours if this could, in any way, hamper the operations of fishing vessels or ancillary services. Mooring facilities are made available to a limited extent to small craft where this can be done without impeding fishing operations.
  2. (2)
    1. (a) The fishing harbours at Arniston, Berg River, Gans Bay, Hermanus, Hout Bay, Kalk Bay, Lambert’s Bay, Saldanha Bay, St. Helena Bay and Stilbaai must be looked upon as offering no, or hardly any room for small craft.
    2. (b) The fishing harbour at Gordon’s Bay offers some room for small craft.
Stock reduction scheme *11. Mr. W. G. KINGWILL

asked the Minister of Agriculture:

  1. (1) How many farmers are participating in the stock reduction scheme;
  2. (2) how many (a) small and (b) large stock units have been removed from grazing since the inception of the scheme.
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE:

As at 31st, January, 1971.

  1. (1) 2 717 applicants representing 9 310 747 ha.
  2. (2) (a) and (b) 1 091 572 small stock units in which is included a relatively small number of large stock units, calculated at six small stock units for every large stock unit. Separate records regarding large stock units are not available.
Petrol: Ocean freight costs and increased price owing to Teheran Agreement *12. Mr. S. EMDIN

asked the Minister of Economic Affairs:

  1. (1) What was the increase in ocean freight costs per gallon of petrol for the period (a) 1st January to 31st December, 1969, (b) 1st January to 31st December, 1970 and (c) 1st January, 1971 to date;
  2. (2) what was the increase in the cost of a gallon of petrol as a result of the Teheran Agreement between the oil producing countries and foreign oil companies.
The MINISTER OF ECONOMIC AFFAIRS:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) An increase of .122 cent per gallon.
    2. (b) An increase of .624 cent per gallon.
    3. (c) A decrease of .227 cent per gallon.
  2. (2) .791 cent per gallon.

I would like to point out that the information I have given in reply to the question of the hon. member, applies only to premium petrol.

The corresponding figures for the other two types of petrol which will be distributed in the Republic from 1st April, namely, the higher octane rating regular petrol and the new super petrol are somewhat different from those I have furnished in respect of premium petrol.

For the purpose of arriving at the price increases recently announced by me in respect of the three grades of petrol, there must also be added, to the cost adjustments already mentioned by me, other cost increases, namely the increased contribution to the National Road Fund, the increases of the profit margins of the petrol filling stations, increases in the source prices of petrol which occurred prior to the conclusion of the Teheran Agreement, as well as cost increases which are related to the increase of the octane ratings of regular and super petrol.

Oil tanker “The World Glory”, and precautionary measures against oil pollution *13. Brig. H. J. BRONKHORST

asked the Minister of Economic Affairs:

  1. (1) Whether an oil tanker The World Glory was in trouble off the coast of the Republic at any time during the past five years; if so, (a) when, (b) what was the nature of the trouble and (c) what was the outcome thereof;
  2. (2) whether an investigation was subsequently instituted by the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research or any other competent body to determine how to prevent similar peril to South Africa and/or how to mitigate the consequences of such peril; if so, (a) what body instituted the investigation, (b) what were the findings and the recommendations, (c) to whom were these made available and (d) what action was taken as a result.
The MINISTER OF ECONOMIC AFFAIRS:
  1. (1) Yes.
    1. (a) 13th June, 1968.
    2. (b) The ship broke in two, probably due to or followed by an explosion.
    3. (c) Pollution of the sea by oil.
  2. (2) Yes.
    1. (a) Even before this incident occurred, my predecessor appointed an ad hoc committee, consisting of Prof. J. K. Mallory of the Department of Oceanography of the University of Cape Town, Mr. G. H. Stander of the Division of Sea Fisheries and Mr. W. D. Oliff of the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research, to report urgently on the problem of oil pollution. Since the World Glory incident the Department of Industries and the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research made further studies.
    2. (b) The report of the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research mainly contains a chronological sequence of events in the World Glory incident and certain scientific and oceanographic details recorded during this incident. In the report it was also suggested—
      1. (i) that surveys of equipment and manpower for the combating of oil pollution be made in the various coastal areas of the Republic;
      2. (ii) that the position and movement of oil slicks at sea be plotted and tracked during incidents;
      3. (iii) that floating parts of tanker wreckages be tracked and sunk;
      4. (iv) that research into oil pollution be undertaken and that the toxicity of chemicals, which can be used in the combating of oil pollution, be tested in this process;
      5. (v) that attention be given to communication systems, beach cleaning and the dispersal of oil slicks, as well as to future organizational planning.
        The recommendations in the report of the ad hoc committee I have referred to are as follows:
      6. (i) A permanent action committee to undertake preparatory work in connection with the combating of oil pollution must be established;
      7. (ii) a scientific and technical committee must be set up;
      8. (iii) active research in the field of oil pollution must be undertaken. This research, which includes aspects such as marine and fisheries biology, physical oceanography, organic chemistry, hydrography and aerial surveys, nature conservation, engineering, etc., covers a particularly wide field;
      9. (iv) Government bodies, universities and other research organizations must be mobilized for this research. However, South Africa should not in this connection endeavour to compete with the bigger overseas organizations, but should rather concentrate on being kept posted of research developments overseas;
      10. (v) the facilities of the South African Defence Force must be utilized in the combating of oil pollution;
      11. (vi) a fixed pattern of action in connection with oil pollution incidents cannot be followed, as circumstances vary from incident to incident;
      12. (vii) in practically all circumstances the salvage of tankers and their cargoes should be attempted;
      13. (viii) the use of chemicals has considerable merit in the deep sea, but it is an expensive process and must only in the most essential cases also be resorted to on beaches and in shallow water;
      14. (ix) the mechanical removal of oil from shores seems to be the safest method of handling moderate quantities thereof;
      15. (x) wherever possible the disposal of spilled oil should be left to natural processes;
      16. (xi) the sinking of spilled oil should not be allowed;
      17. (xii) the use of booms and scavenging apparatus and materials is limited, but further attention can be given to the possibilities of the utilization of booms in sheltered waters;
      18. (xiii) the burning of spilled oil can reduce the quantity eventually to be dealt with to a moderate extent. However, it is a difficult process and can only be applied in certain circumstances;
      19. (xiv) South Africa must become a member of the International Convention for the Prevention of Pollution of the Sea by Oil.
    3. (c) The Department of Industries.
    4. (d) I wish to invite the hon. member’s attention to the particulars I furnished in this House on 9th March, 1971, in reply to a question by the hon. member for Simonstown. In addition the Department of Industries, in collaboration with other research organizations and the local oil companies, concentrated on being kept posted of all developments elsewhere in the world in regard to the technical, scientific, organizational and legal aspects of the combating and prevention of oil pollution. Numerous tests and experiments with promising chemicals have been carried out and the efficacy of equipment for the treatment of oil at sea has been investigated. Extensive discussions in connection with the physical carrying out of a research programme have taken place with organizations such as the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research and the Cape Town University. After careful consideration of the proposals made, with due cognizance of the financial implications, the serious shortage of trained scientists and the necessary facilities and the advantages and knowledge that can be gained from overseas research, it has been decided not to duplicate all these efforts on a large scale in the Republic, but to concentrate on certain aspects thereof only.
*Brig. H. J. BRONKHORST:

Arising out of the reply of the hon. the Minister, could he please tell us whether affect has been given to the recommendations in regard to the two Committees which should have been appointed, and have they been appointed.

*The MINISTER:

Yes.

*Mr. I. W. E. WILEY:

Further arising out of the reply of the hon. the Minister, is the purchase of a tug not part of his plans.

*The MINISTER:

No consideration has as yet been given to this matter by my Department.

University of Durban-Westville: Establishment of faculty of medicine *14. Mr. G. N. OLDFIELD

asked the Minister of Indian Affairs:

Whether consideration has been given to the establishment of a faculty of medicine at the University of Durban-Westville; if so, what steps have been taken or are contemplated.

The MINISTER OF INDIAN AFFAIRS:

Yes, discussions have been held on this aspect. As the matter is tied up with the medical training facilities for the other non-White groups, it is still being investigated.

Dr. E. L. FISHER:

Arising out of the Minister’s reply, may I ask the Minister at what universities Indians may be trained now without getting permits.

The MINISTER:

The hon. member should put that question on the Order Paper.

*15. Mr. W. H. D. DEACON

—Reply standing over.

*16. Mr. S. A. VAN DEN HEEVER

—Reply standing over.

Disturbances in boys’ hostel at Healdtown *17. Mr. S. A. VAN DEN HEEVER

asked the Minister of Police:

  1. (1) Whether the Police were recently called because of disturbances in the boys’ hostel at Healdtown; if so, (a) at what stage were the Police called and (b) what were their findings;
  2. (2) whether any pupils or other persons were arrested; if so, how many;
  3. (3) whether he will make a statement in regard to the matter.
The MINISTER OF POLICE:
  1. (1) Yes.
    1. (a) After the proper authorities had decided to suspend the recalcitrant pupils.
    2. (b) That no law infringements had taken place.
  2. (2) No.
  3. (3) No.
Motor Vehicle Insurance Fund: Basis of fund investments *18. Mr. S. EMDIN

asked the Minister of Transport:

(a) On what basis are banking institutions and/or building societies selected in which funds of the Motor Vehicle Insurance Fund are invested and (b) on what basis are the amounts to be invested with each institution or society determined.

The DEPUTY MINISTER OF TRANSPORT:
  1. (a) No particular basis of selection of banking institutions and/or building societies is applied.
  2. (b) Investments are determined by the best ruling interest rates and other conditions pertaining at the time of the investment.
“How young they die”: by Stuart Cloete *19. Mr. E. G. MALAN

asked the Minister of the Interior:

  1. (1) (a) Under what provision of the Publications and Entertainments Act was the paperback edition of Stuart Cloete’s book How young they die found to be offensive, and (b) what particulars (i) on the cover or (ii) in the contents did the Publications Control Board find to be offensive;
  2. (2) whether any edition other than the paperback was submitted to the Board; if so, what was the decision in that case.
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF THE INTERIOR:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) Section 5 (2) (a) and (b).
    2. (b)
      1. (i) Nothing.
      2. (ii) If particulars are given it would be tantamount to the publishing of a part of a publication which was found to be undesirable, and consequently the information cannot be furnished to the hon. member.
  2. (2) Yes; the hard cover edition titled How young they die. This publication was found to be undesirable.
Report of Commission of Inquiry into matters affecting the Security of the State *20. Mr. R. M. CADMAN (for Mr. M. L. MITCHELL)

asked the Prime Minister:

When does he intend to lay upon the Table the report of the Commission of Inquiry into matters affecting the Security of the State.

The PRIME MINISTER:

The hon. member’s attention is invited to the announcement made by me in Parliament on the 5th February, 1971. I shall make a further announcement in this connection just after the Easter recess.

Replies standing over from Friday, 19th March, 1971

Prisoners escaped and recaptured

The MINISTER OF PRISONS replied to Question *2, by Brig. C. C. von Keyserlingk:

Question:

(a) How many prisoners (i) escaped from prisons and (ii) were recaptured during 1969 and 1970 respectively, (b) of what crimes had those who have not been recaptured been convicted and (c) what are the unexpired periods of their respective sentences.

Reply: (Laid upon Table with leave of House)

(a) (i)

1969

1 666

1970

1 880

(ii)

1969

1 251

1970

1 273

(b) (i) Attempted murder

1

(ii) Murder

7

(iii) Culpable homicide

6

(iv) Rape

27

(v) Robbery

63

(vi) Assault with intent to do grievous bodily harm

29

(vii) Common assault

31

(viii) Assault with intent to rape

2

(ix) Theft

265

(x) Housebreaking and theft

202

(xi) Escaping

13

(xii) Fraud

17

(xiii) Stock-theft

58

(xiv) Extortion

2

(xv) Possession of dagga

14

(xvi) Receiving stolen property

2

(xvii) Possession of fire arm

3

(xviii) Contravention of Provincial Legislation

1

(xix) Contravention of Municipal by-laws

241

(xx) Contravention of the Liquor Act

9

(xxi) Arson

2

(xxii) Contravention of the Precious Stones Act

2

(xxiii) Impersonating policeman

4

(xxiv) Malicious injury to property

3

(xxv) Public violence

2

(xxvi) Bribery

1

(xxvii) Possession of dangerous weapons

11

(xxviii) Contravention of Section 16 (2) (a) (i) of the Immorality Act

2

(xxix) Detained for deportation

2

(c) (i) Up to and including one month

29

(ii) Over one month up to and including four months

202

(iii) Over four months up to and including six months

186

(iv) Over six months up to and including one year

162

(v) Over one year up to and including two years

145

(vi) Over two years up to and including four years

96

(vii) Over four years up to and including six years

35

(viii) Over six years up to and including eight years

39

(ix) Over eight years up to and including ten years

15

(x) Over ten years up to and including fifteen years

13

(xi) Over fifteen years up to and including twenty years

4

(xii) Indeterminate sentence

95

(xiii) Life imprisonment

1

Johannesburg abattoir: Slaughtering capacity and demand

The DEPUTY MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE replied to Question *11, by Mr. W. G. Kingwill:

Question:
  1. (1) (a) What is the slaughtering capacity at the Johannesburg abattoir in respect of (i) sheep, (ii) cattle and (iii) pigs per week and (b) how many of each are being slaughtered per week;
  2. (2) what is the estimated total demand for (a) sheep, (b) cattle and (c) pigs per week in the area served by the Johannesburg abattoir.
Reply:
  1. (1)
    1. (a)
      1. (i) 30 000
      2. (ii) 9 000
      3. (iii) 4 500
    2. (b)
      1. (i) 26 799
      2. (ii) 6 002
      3. (iii) 4 056
  2. (2) Not available.
*12. Mr. W. G. Kingwill

—Reply standing over further.

Methodist Church of S.A.: Application for non-Whites to attend church workers’ course

The MINISTER OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT replied to Question *17, by Mr. L. G. Murray:

Question:
  1. (1) Whether an application was received from the Methodist Church of South Africa for a permit for non-Whites to attend a course of instruction for church workers in Durban during 1970; if so, (a) when was the application received, (b) when was a reply conveyed to the applicant and (c) for what period was the permit required;
  2. (2) whether the permit was granted; if not, for what reasons was it refused.
Reply:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) On the 8th April, 1970, a letter was received from the attorneys for the Church in which they stated that the opinion of a senior advocate would first be obtained as to whether or not a permit is required. On the 7th July, 1970, the attorneys informed the Regional Representative of the Department of Community Development in Durban that, although the opinion obtained expressed doubt as to whether a permit was required, they were, nevertheless, applying for an open permit (which does not cover a limited period only) on behalf of their clients, without any prejudice to their rights;
    2. (b) in the process of transmission of the revelant documents between officials in the Regional Office the application, due to a misunderstanding, was unfortunately filed in the registry section and as a result did not receive the necessary consideration. Neither the attorneys nor the Church made enquiries concerning the outcome of the application;
    3. (c) continuous unlimited period.
  2. (2) Despite the fact that the application, as a result of the filing thereof, was not dealt with and a permit consequenty not issued, the Church nevertheless conducted a course during March/June, 1970, which was attended by 16 Whites, 3 Bantu and 2 Coloureds, i.e. before the attorneys applied for a permit on the 7th July, 1970. A further course has since been held and a third with 14 students commenced recently. The Church and its attorneys are, therefore, evidently not concerned over the fate of the application of the 7th July. 1970, nor with the question of whether or not the presentation of the courses without a permit is legal.
Mr. L. G. MURRAY:

Arising out of the hon. the Minister’s reply, does he agree with the view that the permit was not necessary for this particular course.

THE MINISTER:

I am not willing to express an opinion on that. I am not an attorney. Here is the hon. the Minister of Police, he can tell you.

Mr. L. G. MURRAY:

Arising out of the reply of the hon. Minister of Community Development, would the hon. the Minister of Police please assist us.

Mr. SPEAKER:

Order!

Storage and supply of habit forming and potentially harmful drugs at Army training camp, Youngsfield

The MINISTER OF DEFENCE replied to Question *18, by Mr. L. F. Wood:

Question:
  1. (1) Whether his attention has been drawn to the recent prosecution of an Army serviceman for being in possession of morphine;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement in regard to the matter and the security measures adopted in connection with the storage and supply of habit forming and potentially harmful drugs at Youngsfield.
Reply:
  1. (1) Yes.
  2. (2) In the incident at Youngsfield the national serviceman concerned stole the key to the steel cabinet in which the drugs were stored. He gained entrance to the store room in which the cabinet was kept by burning off the doorlock. Steps were immediately taken to prevent a similar occurrence. All precautionary measures and requirements for the safe custody and distribution of habit forming and potentially harmful drugs as prescribed by Act 13 of 1928 are complied with throughout the Defence Force. Additional and even more stringent control over such drugs is exercised in the Defence Force by means of written Medical Instructions issued by the Surgeon General in amplification of the provisions of the said Act and regular inspections of stocks and registers by suitably qualified officers.

Fortunately this type of incident occurs very seldom in the Defence Force. Since the National service system came into force in 1968 approximately 4 000 national servicemen have been trained in the S.A. Medical Service and it is only the third case of this nature. In each case only small quantities of habit forming drugs were involved.

Supervision and storage of habit forming and potentially harmful drugs in Armed Forces

The MINISTER OF DEFENCE replied to Question *19, by Mr. L. F. Wood:

Question:
  1. (1) Whether he has ensured that supplies of habit forming and potentially harmful drugs are adequately supervised and stored at all points of supply in the Armed Forces;
  2. (2) whether he will endeavour to utilize more fully the services of chemists and druggists and pharmacy students serving in the Commando’s in so far as the storage, issue and use of dangerous drugs are concerned;
  3. (3) (a) how many members of the Armed Forces (i) have undergone training and are considered competent to dispense medicines in terms of section 92 (2) of Act 13 of 1928 and (ii) are in fact carrying out such services, (b) what is the extent and duration of the training period, (c) who undertakes the training and (d) what is the minimum (i) age and (ii) educational standard required for those undergoing training.
Reply:
  1. (1) Yes.
  2. (2) No. There is no need for it in the Commando organization.
  3. (3)
    1. (a) (i) and (ii). It is not possible to furnish numbers. All other ranks of the administrative branch of the S.A. Medical Services receive multilateral training which includes training in the art of pharmacy and other para-medical directions. This forms part of their qualifying training for promotion. Although they are considered competent to dispense medicines in terms of section 92 (2) of Act 13 of 1928 after their training in the art of pharmacy, application has not been made to have them certified as it was, as yet, not necessary to employ them as such. Seventeen members are at present employed to issue ready compounded medicines under supervision of medical or pharmacist officers.
    2. (b) The training comprises two months intensive training in forensic pharmacy, elementary dispensary, elementary pharmacology, prescription interpretation and pharmacy management followed by approximately three years on the job training.
    3. (c) The intensive training is conducted by pharmacist officers and the on the job training is done under supervision of medical or pharmacist officers.
    4. (d)
      1. (i) There is no prescribed minimum age. The average age is 22 years.
      2. (ii) Standard VIII.
Mr. L. F. WOOD:

Arising out of the hon. the Minister’s reply, is he aware that in certain commando units both habitforming drugs and potentially harmful drugs are in the charge of people who are not legally qualified to handle them?

The MINISTER:

That is not correct.

Mr. L. F. WOOD:

Further arising out of the hon. the Minister’s reply, will he undertake that there will be no victimization if I provide him with facts?

The MINISTER:

Yes, certainly. Would the hon. member also undertake not to continue his vendetta against the commando organization because he wanted a release for his son from national service? [Interjections.]

For written reply:

Training of medical students to compound or dispense medicines 446. Mr. L. F. WOOD

asked the Minister of National Education:

What is the (a) nature, (b) extent, (c) duration and (d) number of hours of training provided for medical students at the Universities of Cape Town, Stellenbosch, the Witwatersrand, Natal and Pretoria, respectively, to equip them to compound or dispense medicines in terms of section 73 of Act 13 of 1928.

The MINISTER OF NATIONAL EDUCATION:

(a), (b), (c) and (d) The South African Medical and Dental Council prescribes the requirements for the training to be provided and I assume that these are being complied with.

White-owned farms in Alice district purchased for inclusion in Ciskei Bantu homeland 449. Mrs. H. SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Bantu Administration and Development:

Whether any White-owned farms in the Alice district have been purchased for inclusion in the Ciskei Bantu homeland; if so, (a) how many, (b) what was the extent of each farm, (c) on what dates were they purchased and (d) to what use are they being put at present.

The MINISTER OF BANTU ADMINISTRATION AND DEVELOPMENT:

Yes.

(a) 17.

(b)

(c)

158.6583 Hectares

7.4.1938

613.5624 Hectares

19.6.1943

155.8888 Hectares

17.9.1937

475.9549 Hectares

4.4.1944

66.8378 Hectares

20.4.1939

60.0543 Hectares

20.4.1939

153.3192 Hectares

20.4.1939

539.9150 Hectares

18.9.1937

4.0200 Hectares

13.1.1958

288.5400 Hectares

30.6.1959

32.3741 Hectares

29.6.1959

126.0016 Hectares

18.12.1961

31.6775 Hectares

14.12.1962

179.0566 Hectares

28.8.1962

424.4687 Hectares

18.3.1963

451.7193 Hectares

1.8.1969

473.3410 Hectares

29.1.1970

(A further five farms, in extent 715.2042 hectares, 939.4819 hectares, 488.0148 hectares, 485.6879 hectares and 213.2983 hectares respectively, have recently been purchased but the transfers of these farms have not yet been registered in favour of the South African Bantu Trust.)

(d) The land is being used for the development of a Bantu Township, fattening of Bantu stock before marketing, a Dairy Scheme and general grazing for Bantu stock.