House of Assembly: Vol35 - FRIDAY 12 MARCH 1971

FRIDAY, 12TH MARCH, 1971

For oral reply:

*1. Mrs. H. SUZMAN

—Withdrawn.

Universities for Bantu: Signing of declaration of loyalty *2. Mrs. H. SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Bantu Education:

Whether students applying for admission to any of the universities for Bantu are required to sign a declaration of loyalty as a prerequisite to admission; if so, (a) at which universities does this requisite obtain, (b) when was it introduced, (c) for what reasons and (d) what is the import of the declaration.

The MINISTER OF BANTU EDUCATION:

Yes.

  1. (a) The University of the North.
  2. (b) 1st January, 1971.
  3. (c) To make students conversant with the aims of the University and with certain rights and responsibilities of students as members of the University community.
  4. (d) The import of the declaration is as follows:
    A University besides being an institution for higher education and research is also a community consisting of three groups of persons: the teaching staff, the administrative staff and the students. If one or more of these groups refuse to recognize the University and to partake in the normal activities of the University, this community is assailed in its very nature. The Council cannot therefore allow students to join this community who are not prepared to associate themselves with the University and who participate in activities implying a rejection of the University. If it should appear that a student does not fulfil this requirement he will have to leave the campus immediately.
    The University declares in the statement its willingness to support and protect with all the means at its disposal, those students who associate themselves unreservedly with the University; who want to study in peace; and who wish to respect the confidence placed in them by their parents or guardians.
    The student declares that he wishes to be accepted as a student and that he has read this statement and understands it fully, and that he undertakes to abide by it.
Mrs. H. SUZMAN:

Arising from the Minister’s reply, can he tell us why the University of the North has been singled out for this particularly juvenile treatment?

The MINISTER:

The University of the North has not been singled out by anybody, but has decided on its own to do this.

Mrs. H. SUZMAN:

Arising further from the hon. the Minister’s reply, can the Minister tell us whether the students too of their own accord asked for this treatment?

The MINISTER:

Those students who were prepared to abide by the regulations signed the declaration.

Persons deprived of S.A. citizenship during 1970 *3. Mrs. H. SUZMAN

asked the Minister of the Interior:

  1. (1) Whether any persons were deprived of South African citizenship during 1970; if so, how many;
  2. (2) how many of them were so deprived because they made use of passports issued by other countries;
  3. (3) whether any of them were so deprived for other reasons; if so, (a) how many and (b) for what reasons.
The MINISTER OF THE INTERIOR:
  1. (1) Yes, 34.
  2. (2) 28.
  3. (3) Yes.
    1. (a) 6.
    2. (b) Four acquired foreign citizenship by formal and voluntary acts whilst resident in the Republic (section 19 bis (1) (a) of Act No. 44 of 1949) and two made declarations renouncing their South African citizenship with intent to accept foreign citizenship (section 19 bis (1) (b) (ii) of Act No. 44 of 1949).
Publications Control Board: Decision re paper packaging of certain type of panty hose *4. Mr. E. G. MALAN

asked the Minister of the Interior:

  1. (1) Whether decisions of the Publications Control Board have differed according to whether (a) publications and (b) objects were wrapped in transparent material or not; if so, (i) in which instances, (ii) what were the decisions and (iii) for what reasons;
  2. (2) whether standards of opacity or transparency have been laid down; if so, what are the standards.
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF THE INTERIOR:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) Yes.
    2. (b) No.
      1. (i) In one instance, namely the paper packaging of a type of panty hose, first submitted without the wrapping and later within the wrapping.
      2. (ii) The packaging without the wrapping was found undesirable and within the wrapping not undesirable.
      3. (iii) The wrapping concealed the inside paper packaging to such an extent that the publication so covered was found to be not undesirable.
  2. (2) No.
*Mr. E. G. MALAN:

Could the hon. the Minister tell me whether the same standards are being applied in regard to packagings concerning books where only the covers are involved? Very often books are prohibited only on account of the covers … [Interjections.]

*Mr. SPEAKER:

Order!

Mr. W. V. RAW:

Can the Minister tell us whether there is any regulation or rule which forbids the removal of the plastic cover after purchase of the goods?

The DEPUTY MINISTER:

Not as far as I know.

Grey Street complex of Durban *5. Mr. L. E. D. WINCHESTER

asked the Minister of Planning:

  1. (1) How many persons of each race group at present (a) reside, (b) own businesses and (c) are employed in the Grey Street complex of Durban;
  2. (2) what is the total value of (a) White and (b) Indian-owned property in the area;
  3. (3) whether the Indian Council has been informed of any decision in regard to a proclamation of the area.
The MINISTER OF PLANNING:

The information hereunder is based on evidence furnished at the public inquiry held on 21st May, 1969.

  1. (1)
    1. (a) White: 96.
      Indian: 12 728.
      Coloured: 892.
      Bantu: 1 375.
    2. (b) White: Insignificant.
      Indian: 3 351 — Street market (squatters market) stalls included.
      Other: Insignificant.
    3. (c) White: Unknown.
      Indian: 21 089.
      Other: Unknown.
  2. (2) Municipal valuation—
    1. (a) R1 694 736.
    2. (b) R16 962 460.
  3. (3) No. A decision has not yet been taken.
Mr. L. E. D. WINCHESTER:

Can the hon. the Minister tell us when he is likely to take a decision in this matter?

The MINISTER:

I have already on a number of occasions assured the hon. member that I shall take a decision as soon as possible.

National Senior Certificate examination: Errors in mathematics and Latin papers *6. Mr. W. G. KINGWILL

asked the Minister of National Education:

Whether printing and other errors in the mathematics and Latin papers for the National Senior Certificate examination in November, 1970, have come to the attention of his Department; if so, what steps have been taken to prevent a recurrence.

The MINISTER OF PLANNING (for the Minister of National Education):

Yes; no special steps have been taken. Owing to the human factor, occasional errors are unavoidable, but the most careful arrangements are, as in the past, being made to ensure the correctness of question papers.

National Senior Certificate examination: Announcements of results *7. Mr. W. G. KINGWILL

asked the Minister of National Education:

Whether there was any delay in publishing the results of the National Senior Certificate examinations held in 1970; if so, (a) what was the reason for the delay and (b) what steps have been taken to prevent a recurrence.

The MINISTER OF PLANNING (for the Minister of National Education):

Yes.

  1. (a) Some of the examiners did not complete the new computerized mark sheets in accordance with the instructions issued to them and in other cases examination books and mark sheets were not returned within the prescribed time;
  2. (b) My Department of National Education immediately issued a circular to bring the more important instructions once more to the attention of examiners. A survey of the main problems which arose, has been made and is at present receiving attention.
Appeals against death-sentences, 1970 *8. Mr. J. J. M. STEPHENS

asked the Minister of Justice:

Whether any of the (a) 43 persons who applied for leave to appeal against the death-sentence during 1970 and (b) 18 persons to whom leave was refused, have been reprieved by the State President; if so, how many in each case.

The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:

Yes.

  1. (a) 7.
  2. (b) 5 (also included under (a)).
International convention for the protection of endangered wild life species *9. Mr. D. E. MITCHELL

asked the Minister of Agriculture:

  1. (1) Whether he has received any intimation of proposals for the organization tion of an international convention for the protection of endangered wild life species which will be submitted for signature at the United Nations Conference on the Human Environment at Stockholm in 1972; if so,
  2. (2) whether the Republic of South Africa will become a party to the convention; if not, why not.
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE:
  1. (1) No.
  2. (2) Falls away.
Nompomolelo Mission Hospital, Peddie: Reservation of separate ward for White persons *10. Mr. W. H. D. DEACON

asked the Minister of Bantu Administration and Development:

Whether representations have been received for the reservation of a separate ward in the Nompomolelo Mission Hospital at Peddie for White persons involved in emergency cases of accident or maternity; if so, (a) from whom, (b) what was the motivation of the request, (c) what reply was given and (d) what were the reasons for the decision.

The DEPUTY MINISTER OF BANTU DEVELOPMENT:

No. (a), (b) (c) and (d) fall away.

Reprociamation of Coloured area of Kensington *11. Mr. T. HICKMAN

asked the Minister of Planning:

Whether his Department is considering the reproclamation of the Coloured area of Kensington; if so, when is it expected that a reproclamation will be made.

The MINISTER OF PLANNING:

No.

Disturbances at Gelvandale, Port Elizabeth *12. Mrs. H. SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Police:

  1. (1) Whether he has received a report on disturbances at Gelvandale, Port Elizabeth, on 7th March, 1971; if so,
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement in regard to the matter.
The MINISTER OF POLICE:
  1. (1) Yes.
  2. (2) I have already issued a statement concerning this matter on 10th March, 1971.
Mrs. H. SUZMAN:

Arising out of the Minister’s reply, can he tell us whether he is prepared to appoint an independent inquiry into this matter considering the fact that there are two versions of what happened here?

The MINISTER:

I do not consider that necessary.

Report of Television Commission *13. Mr. E. G. MALAN

asked the Minister of National Education:

  1. (1) Whether further steps have been taken in regard to the report of the Television Commission since his previous statement on the matter; if so, what steps;
  2. (2) whether there has been any delay in considering the recommendations; if so, for what reasons.
The MINISTER OF PLANNING (for the Minister of National Education):
  1. (1) Yes; to have it translated and printed.
  2. (2) There has been no undue delay in considering the recommendations, which are to be given attention as soon as earlier or more urgent matters have been disposed of.
*Mr. E. G. MALAN:

Arising out of the reply of the hon. the Minister, could he tell us whether this matter has been dealt with by the Cabinet itself?

*The MINISTER:

From the nature of the case, I cannot furnish a reply off-hand to a question such as this on behalf of the Minister of National Education. The hon. member should therefore give notice of his question.

*Mr. E. G. MALAN:

Has the matter been submitted to the Minister of Planning?

*Mr. SPEAKER:

Order!

Foreign students at Bantu universities *14. Mr. J. D. DU P. BASSON

asked the Minister of Bantu Education:

Whether students from foreign countries (a) studied at Bantu universities in the Republic in 1970 and (b) are studying at these universities at present; if so, (a) how many, (b) at which universities and (c) from which countries have they come.

The MINISTER OF BANTU EDUCATION:

(a) and (b) Yes.

1970

(a)

(b)

(c)

1

University of the North

Lesotho

2

" "

Malawi

7

" "

Rhodesia

15

University of Zululand

Rhodesia

1

University of Fort Hare

Swaziland

26

1971*

1

University of the North

Malawi

4

Rhodesia

14

University of Zululand

Rhodesia

1

University of Fort Hare

Rhodesia

20

*Preliminary figures

*Mr. J. D. DU P. BASSON:

May I ask the hon. the Minister whether these students are also required to sign the declaration previously referred to by him in regard to the University of the North?

*The MINISTER:

I am not absolutely certain. I shall ascertain what the position is and inform the hon. member at a later stage.

Housing Ioans i.r.o. public servants in S.W.A. *15. Mr. J. W. E. WILEY

asked the Minister of the Interior:

  1. (1) Whether housing loans are available in South-West Africa to public servants in the employ of (a) the Government and (b) the Administration; if so, (i) to what extent and (ii) subject to what conditions; if not, why not;
  2. (2) whether any promises have been made that housing loans will be made available to public servants in South-West Africa; if so, (a) when, (b) by whom and (c) to whom.
The MINISTER OF THE INTERIOR:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) No.

      (i) and (ii) Because official quarters are provided and housing allowances are paid to officers/ employees who could not as yet be provided with such quarters.

    2. (b) Yes.
      (i) and (ii) The Administration of South-West Africa introduced a house owner scheme for officers and employees in its service, with effect from the 1st April, 1969. Basically the scheme entails the grant of loans to a maximum of R16 000, at 5 per cent interest over periods of up to 40 years. The loans are repayable in monthly instalments. As security for a loan an applicant is required to pass a first mortgage bond for the full amount of the loan in favour of the Administration and to enter into an agreement with the Administration to the effect that on termination of services any pension, salary or other moneys due to the borrower shall be utilized for the redemption or partial redemption of the loan.
  2. (2) Not to my knowledge. (a), (b) and (c) fall away.
Inquest on death of Dennis Faul: Statement by district surgeon *16. Brig. H. J. BRONKHORST

asked the Minister of Health:

  1. (1) Whether his attention has been drawn to a report that the district surgeon of Pietersburg in his evidence at the inquest on the death of Dennis Faul is alleged to have stated that it was part of his job to take care of the police;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement in regard to the matter.
The MINISTER OF THE INTERIOR (for the Minister of Health):
  1. (1) Yes.
  2. (2) No.

District Surgeons are responsible for the medical examination and treatment of police officials and their dependants. The Department has not issued any further instructions to District Surgeons in respect of police officials.

Replies standing over from Tuesday, 9th March, 1971

Negotiations and inquiries re sale of aircraft spares

The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT replied to Question *7, by Mr. E. G. Malan.

Question:
  1. (1) Whether negotiations and inquiries instituted by him in regard to the sale of aircraft spares mentioned by him in statements during September and October, 1970, have been completed; if not, (a) why not and (b) when is it expected that they will be completed; if so,
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement in regard to the matter.
Reply:
  1. (1) Yes.
  2. (2) Inquiries established that the nondelivery of the aircraft spares to S.A. Airways was due to—
    1. (a) the cases containing the spares being shipped devoid of shipping marks;
    2. (b) the bill of lading being incorrectly drawn up, showing the cases as being duly marked; and
    3. (c) the weight of the cases being shown incorrectly on the bill of lading.

Negotiations resulted in the firm of purchasing and shipping agents concerned acquiring the spares from Messrs. Macys Limited, Durban, and delivering them to S.A. Airways on 5th November, 1970, after they had been tested and found to be technically in perfect working condition.

The matter has, therefore, been finalized without any financial loss to the Administration or to the State.

Proposed rezoning in Newcastle: Indians interviewed by members of Security Branch

The MINISTER OF POLICE replied to Question *8, by Mr. L. E. D. Winchester:

Question:
  1. (1) Whether claims that certain persons identifying themselves as members of the Security Branch of the Police have interviewed Indians in Newcastle in connection with the suggested rezoning of the town, have come to the notice of the Police; if so,
  2. (2) whether these claims have been or are being investigated; if not, why not;
  3. (3) whether he will make a statement in regard to the matter.
Reply:
  1. (1) Yes, by way of a Press report.
  2. (2) Yes. I had it investigated.
  3. (3) No, except to state that interviews the police had with certain individuals at Newcastle, had nothing to do with the proposed rezoning as such.
Introduction of wider rail gauge on certain routes

The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT replied to Question *9, by Mr. H. M. Timoney.

Question:

Whether consideration has been given to the introduction of a wider rail gauge on certain routes; if not, what plans are being made to improve speed and carrying capacity on the present track width.

Reply:

No. The following are, however, details of some of the more important measures introduced to increase general operating speed over existing lines and the carrying capacity of such lines:

  1. (i) Easing of gradients.
  2. (ii) Elimination of sharp curves.
  3. (iii) Relaying of track with heavier material.
  4. (iv) Introduction of more powerful traction power, including electrification and dieselization.
  5. (v) Introduction of modern signalling techniques.
  6. (vi) Multiplication of tracks.
  7. (vii) Use of special-type trucks equipped with air brakes.
  8. (viii) Block-load and unit-train working.
  9. (ix) Elimination of the short truck.

For written reply:

Extent of homelands of various ethnic groups 230. Mrs. H. SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Bantu Administration and Development:

What is the (a) present and (b) envisaged extent in morgen of the homelands of each of the Bantu ethnic groups.

The MINISTER OF BANTU ADMINISTRATION AND DEVELOPMENT:

Homelands

Extent Hectares

(a) Transkei

4 680 578.9538

Ciskei

867 987.5076

Zulu

3 182 642.2715

Tswana

3 305 965.2973

Matshangana

891 696.0108

North Sotho

1 773 360.4225

Venda

804 146.4013

South Sotho

52 038.0249

Swazi

290 059.8696

(b) It is not possible to give the envisaged extent of the Homelands, but the following quota land is still to be added to the Homelands in the various provinces:

Hectares

Transvaal

627 202.1111

Cape Province

644 681.5514

Natal

67 371.0751

Orange Free State

Nil

The particulars are given in hectares because they are now kept by the department on that basis.

New Table Bay Dock scheme 337. Mr. E. G. Malan

asked the Minister of Transport:

  1. (1) (a) What were the original details of the new dock scheme for Table Bay, (b) on what date were these details decided upon and (c) what was the original estimated cost;
  2. (2) whether changes have been made in the original plans; if so, how will these changes affect (a) the width of the dock basin, (b) the seaward wall, (c) the outer mole and its length and (d) other parts of the existing docks;
  3. (3) what is the estimated cost of the amended scheme;
  4. (4) whether any expenses had been incurred in regard to the (a) planning and (b) execution of the original plan; if so, (i) what expenses and (ii) what amount of these expenses represents expense incurred in respect of parts of the original plan which had to be scrapped or altered;
  5. (5) whether it is expected that Parliamentary authority for the new scheme will be asked for during the current Session;
  6. (6) when is it expected that the new scheme will be completed.
The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) The Scheme provides for the construction outside Duncan Dock of a new harbour basin containing eight deepwater berths and 1 600 lineal feet of berthage for non-working vessels near the entrance, as well as the addition in time to come of a second basin with fourteen deepwater berths.
    2. (b) 26th March, 1969.
    3. (c) R42.7 million in respect of the first outer basin and R56.9 million for the second basin.
  2. (2) Yes.
    1. (a) The basin will be 300 ft. wider than originally planned.
    2. (b) The seawall section parallel to the long quay is now to be constructed 300 ft. further seawards with its length reduced by 114 ft. The length of the long quaywall will remain unchanged at 4 500 ft. but the cross-berth will be 300 ft. longer.
    3. (c) The outer mole and the seawall are one and the same structure. The caisson section of the seawall will, however, be lengthened by 146 ft. and the berthing length for non-working vessels reduced by 41 ft. owing to the changed curved section of the caisson seawall.
    4. (d) None.
  3. (3) Approximately R45 million for the first outer basin.
  4. (4) (a) and (b) Yes.
    1. (i) R4 192 205.
    2. (ii) An estimated amount of R17 000.
  5. (5) No.
  6. (6) The first and second stages of the construction of the first basin are expected to be completed by 1976. No indication can, however, be given at this juncture as to when the further stages of the project will be completed.
Value of White and Indian owned property expropriated in Block AK area, Durban 361. Mr. L. E. D. WINCHESTER

asked the Minister of Community Development:

  1. (1) (a) What was the total value of (i) White and (ii) Indian owned property expropriated in the Block AK area of Durban and (b) what is (i) the total amount paid to date and (ii) the estimated amount still to be paid in respect of these properties;
  2. (2) how many properties expropriated in December 1969 still have to be paid for.
The MINISTER OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) The total municipal valuation of the properties as at 1st August, 1969 are as follows:
      1. (i) R187 070.
      2. (ii) R1 806 670.
    2. (b)
      1. (i) R114 651.
      2. (ii) The estimated amount still to be paid cannot be determined as in most cases compensation will have to be decided upon by way of arbitration or by other means.
  2. (2) 92 properties.
White and non-White population i.r.o. certain Cape Province areas 374. Mr. L. E. D. WINCHESTER

asked the Minister of Statistics:

How many White, Coloured, Bantu and Indian persons respectively were there in the areas of (a) the Western Cape comprising the Cape Peninsula, the Cape Flats, the Northern Suburbs, Paarl, Wellington, Stellenbosch and Malmesbury, (b) Port Elizabeth and Uitenhage, (c) East London and King William’s Town, (d) Kimberley and (e) the rest of the Cape Province at the date of (i) the last census and (ii) the previous census.

The MINISTER OF STATISTICS:

White

Coloured

Bantu

Asians

(i) 1970

(ii) 1960

(i) 1970

(ii) 1960

(i) 1970

(ii) 1960

(i) 1970

(ii) 1960

(a)

442 888

358 386

747 232

527 694

130 140

95 597

11 514

9 150

(b)

154 929

124 781

117 198

84 353

222 682

161 927

5 301

4 664

(c)

71 830

62 516

17 987

12 603

102 533

104 193

2 147

1 878

(d)

30 200

26 687

27 885

19 480

54 649

41 420

947

1 084

(e)

White areas

402 510

415 237

841 244

672 698

849 852

760 693

1 708

1 669

Bantu homelands

11 586

15 811

10 684

13 255

2 478 969

1 855 479

26

42

Grand total of the Cape Province

1 113 943

1 003 418

1 762 230

1 330 083

3 838 825

3 019 309

21 643

18 487

Dept of Community Development: Houses, flats and plots in White areas in Cape Peninsula 395. Mr. T. HICKMAN

asked the Minister of Community Development:

How many (a) houses, (b) flats and (c) plots for (i) residential and (ii) business purposes does his Department own in White areas in each of the municipal areas of Cape Town, Goodwood, Parow, Bellville, Pinelands and Milnerton.

The MINISTER OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT:

(a)

(b)

(c)

(i)

(ii)

Cape Town

1 689 (of which 1 527 are situated in District Six)

249

24

15

Goodwood

12

301

5

Parow

1

3

Bellville

3

1

Pinelands

Milnerton

65

2 070 (including Bothasig Extension 1)

18