House of Assembly: Vol35 - TUESDAY 2 MARCH 1971
For oral reply:
asked the Minister of the Interior:
- (1) What are the present rates of (a) subsistence and (b) transport allowances paid to public servants;
- (2) whether any increase is contemplated; if so, to what extent; if not, why not.
- (1)
- (a) The following subsistence allowances are payable to personnel performing official duties away from their headquarters:
In the case of an officer or employee, if his annual salary or wage, including pensionable privileges supplied in kind—- (i) is higher than the maximum notch of the scale attaching to a post of under-secretary in the administrative division: Not exceeding R8 per day;
- (ii) is higher than the maximum notch of the scale attaching to a post of administrative officer in the administrative division, but not higher than the maximum notch of the scale attaching to a post of under-secretary in the administrative division: Not exceeding R6.50 per day;
- (iii) is equal to or lower than the maximum notch of the scale attaching to a post of administrative officer in the administrative division: Not exceeding R5 per day.
- (b) Personnel performing official duties away from their headquarters travel at State expense and are not paid travelling allowances in respect of official journeys. Travelling allowances as such are, in fact, payable under certain circumstances and are then determined according to the specific circumstances of an officer/employee’s case.
- (a) The following subsistence allowances are payable to personnel performing official duties away from their headquarters:
- (2) The necessity for the increase, or not, of subsistence allowances is at present being considered in the light of statistics which have been obtained from various sources.
asked the Minister of the Interior:
- (1) How many appeals to the Supreme Court against decisions of the Publications Control Board have been (a) allowed and (b) disallowed;
- (2) what was the amount of the legal costs (a) paid to successful appellants, (b) paid in respect of the Board’s representation and (c) recovered against unsuccessful appellants, in respect of each such appeal.
- (1)
- (a) Five.
- (b) Four.
- (2) (a), (b) and (c) Not within my ability to reply to, as legal costs in such appeals are paid and/or recovered by the State Attorney in the Department of the Minister of Justice.
Mr. Speaker, arising out of the reply of the hon. the Deputy Minister, is it of no concern to his Department what costs the Government is involved in as a result of the actions of the Publications Control Board? [Interjections.]
Order!
asked the Minister of the Interior:
- (1) Whether his attention has been drawn to the resolution adopted at the Golden Jubilee Conference of the Public Servants’ Association of South Africa requesting the appointment of a commission of inquiry to investigate the creation of a more efficient public service;
- (2) whether he intends to take any action in regard to this matter; if so, what action.
- (1) Yes.
- (2) No.
asked the Minister of the Interior:
- (1) Whether it is still intended (a) to commence with the new system of the population registration on 1st June, 1971, and (b) that the entire conversion is to take approximately five years; if not, (i) what is the new date or period and (ii) what are the reasons for the change;
- (2) how many persons employed by (a) his Department and (b) other departments will, it is estimated, mainly be working on it during the 1971-’72 financial year;
- (3) what will be the official designation of the person directly in charge of the system;
- (4) whether the cost of the new system has been estimated for the 1971-’72 financial year; if so, what is the estimated amount;
- (5) whether computers will be used for the system during 1971-’72; if so, (a) how many, (b) what is the name of each model and (c) what is the purchase price or rental of each model.
- (1)
- (a) No.
- (b) Yes.
- (i) 1st February, 1972.
- (ii) The completion of the accommodation to house the register and the computer was delayed on account of the shortage during 1970 of cement and certain steel products.
- (2)
- (a) 438 as from 1st February, 1972.
- (b) None.
- (3) Deputy Secretary.
- (4) Yes. R500 000.
- (5) Yes.
- (a) One; which will also be used for other departmental work and bureau services for other Government Departments.
- (b) I.B.M.360/50.
- (c) Monthly rental of R31 413.38.
asked the Minister of Bantu Administration and Development:
Whether any persons resident in the Henningvlei Reserve, Vryburg, have been removed from their homes since 1st January, 1971; if so, (a) how many, (b) what are their names, (c) to what areas have they been removed and (d) in terms of what legal provision.
No. (a), (b), (c) and (d) Fall away.
asked the Minister of Bantu Administration and Development:
- (1) Whether the Bantu Investment Corporation of South Africa Limited has recently invited tenders for the erection of buildings for a pleasure resort near Witzieshoek; if so, for what race group is the resort intended;
- (2) whether the proposed resort area is within a Bantu homeland.
- (1) Yes; it is, however, not the usual pleasure resort, but provides accommodation for tourists on the way to Mont-aux-Sources.
- (2) Yes.
asked the Minister of Justice:
- (1) Whether the evidence given by a neurologist and psychiatrist at the most recent trial of Mr. Harry Sam of Braamfontein, Johannesburg, has been brought to his notice;
- (2) whether consideration has been given to declaring this person unfit to possess arms in terms of section 8 or section 9 of the Arms and Ammunition Act; if so, with what result; if not, why not.
- (1) No; but I have been informed that the record of proceedings is being typed and will be submitted to me in due course.
- (2) No; the trial magistrate is at present on sick leave and will give attention to the matter as soon as he resumes his duties.
asked the Minister of Police:
Whether any persons were interviewed by members of the Police Force in Newcastle in connection with the proposed rezoning of the area; if so, (a) for what purpose and (b) to what race group did these persons belong.
No.
asked the Minister of the Interior:
- (1) Whether the Publications Control Board, in deciding to ban “Rich Man, Poor Man” by Irwin Shaw, took cognizance of the provisions of section 6 (1) of Act 26 of 1963; if not, why not; if so,
- (2) whether the publication was found to be harmful to public morals in terms of paragraph (c) of the said subsection; if so, which subject was it deemed to have dealt with in an improper manner; if not, in terms of which paragraph of the said subsection was it found to be indecent or obscene or offensive to public morals.
- (1) Yes.
- (2) No; not in terms of any of the provisions of section 6.
asked the Minister of Bantu Administration and Development:
- (1) Whether, apart from the plans for which tenders have been accepted, other plans had been drawn up and tenders invited for a hospital at Mdantsane; if so, (a) what were the amounts of the respective tenders, (b) what were the architects’ fees and other expenses paid in this respect and (c) for what reasons were the plans abandoned;
- (2) whether the extent of the building for which plans have now been accepted, will be the same as that provided for in the previous plans.
- (1) No.
(a), (b) and (c) Fall away.
- (2) No; the building now being provided is larger.
asked the Minister of Economic Affairs:
- (1) Whether any steps are being taken to deal with the danger of oil pollution following the stranding of the oil tanker Wafra off Cape Agulhas; if so, what steps;
- (2) whether he will make a statement in regard to the matter.
- (1) Yes. Senior officials of the Department of Industries started taking precautionary measures immediately after the first report was received on Saturday morning, 27th February, 1971, that the Wafra was in distress. The following steps have since been taken:
- (a) My Department of Industries immediately contacted Maritime Headquarters of the South African Air Force, which made available a Super Frelon helicopter to lower two heavy air compressors and a pump on to the deck of the Wafra. Due to weather conditions, gases escaping from the ship, etc., this task could, unfortunately, only be carried out on Monday morning, 1st March.
- (b) Senior officials of the Department of Industries proceeded to the scene by helicopter on Sunday, 28th February, 1971, in order to make an assessment of the position.
- (c) Although conditions concerning the spillage of oil from the ship did not cause any concern late on Sunday afternoon, these officials, nevertheless, immediately started arrangements to get ships with dispersants and spraying equipment in readiness in order to proceed to the scene. One of the ships of the Division of Sea Fisheries, the Benguela, with 35 tons of dispersant and spraying equipment on board will start spraying early today. A second ship, the Africana II, will also be ready to proceed to the scene during the course of today, while two further ships, including the Maigas of the Division of Government Guano Islands, are being brought into readiness. A further ship, the Gamtoos, also of the Division of Government Guano Islands, presently on its way to St. Croix, Port Elizabeth, is being instructed to take a load of dispersant aboard at Port Elizabeth and will start spraying towards the middle or end of next week. Spraying will be concentrated around and between the ship and the shore in order to ensure that as little as possible further oil washes on to the beaches.
- (d) In the meantime the salvaging company itself sent a launch to the scene for purposes of spraying.
- (e) In consultation with the oil company for whom the oil was destined, large quantities of straw and hay, as well as labour teams, have been obtained and are being sent to Cape Agulhas today in order to clear away, according to the sea tides, as much of the oil from those parts of the coast which are most polluted. A dumping spot for the polluted material is being determined in consultation with the local authorities concerned so that no water supplies, etc., will be polluted and in order that it can be put alight later on.
- (f) The Department of Industries has already taken steps to ensure that sufficient chemical dispersants will be available from local and, if necessary, even from foreign sources.
- (g) Air is already being compressed into the damaged tanks of the ship and attempts have also been made to pull the ship off the sand bank and rocks on which it is embedded. The tugs F. T. Bates, Oceanic and Baltic—the Oceanic is the largest tug in the world—are making further attempts. These attempts are being made during high tides.
- (h) Attempts are already being made to ensure faster means of communication. The fact that the scene of the accident is situated some 240 kilometres from Cape Town, the nearest large centre, hampers the efforts of the Department and the company to a considerable extent.
- (i) Daily flights are being undertaken by the South African Air Force in order to report on the position and movement of oil patches. This is an important factor in the effective carrying out of spraying.
- (2) The position is undoubtedly serious. However, my Department is doing everything in its power to minimize the magnitude and consequences of the incident, and I must mention with appreciation that excellent cooperation is being received from all sections of the South African Defence Force and the private undertakings concerned with this matter. Apart from the steps I have already referred to, there are further measures that can be taken, for example, the possible ignition of the oil on board ship, the use of absorbents at sea, etc. All these steps are being kept in mind, but in the possible application thereof, the ultimate implications they may have on marine life and the environment must be taken in mind thoroughly. In the present circumstances the most effective measures with the least detrimental consequences are being applied.
I wish to assure this House that no stone is being left unturned to prevent a disaster.
Arising out of the reply of the hon. the Minister, can he tell the House what will be done with the ship in the event of their getting it off the sand bar?
They will first take it deep into the sea and then decide afterwards what to do with it.
Arising out of the hon. the Minister’s reply, can he tell us whether he has given his attention to the possibility of legal action for damages being taken against whoever is guilty in this case?
I think that is a matter that we can consider at a later stage; at the moment we are very concerned with the accident itself.
Arising out of the hon. the Minister’s reply, will he tell the House how many of his departmental officials have been sent overseas in the last three years to study like disasters, and how many ships and planes his Department has acquired.
Order!
Replies standing over from Friday, 26th February, 1971:
—Reply standing over further.
The MINISTER OF PLANNING replied to Question *10, by Mr. L. E. D. Winchester.
- (1) (a) Which (i) individuals and (ii) organizations gave evidence at the inquiry by the Group Areas Board into the Grey Street complex of Durban and (b) what were the recommendations of the individuals and organizations, respectively;
- (2) (a) how long has development in this area been frozen and (b) when will development be allowed to proceed.
The reply is based on the Grey Street complex as it was advertised for investigation, viz.:
- (a) Area B4/12 that is Grey Street South (south of the railway line).
- (b) Area T, that is Grey Street North (north of the railway line and east of Cross Street).
- (c) Area B3/I1 comprising the cemetery area south of the railway line and municipal land, the Warwick Avenue triangle and Indian Educational Centre, all north of the railway line.
- (1) (a) and (b) The following persons made verbal representations at the public inquiry held on 21st May, 1969:
- (1) Adv. Shaw on behalf of the City Council recommended that Grey Street South (B4/12) and North (Area T) be declared Indian Group Areas, the cemetery area and municipal land be proclaimed White and the Indian Educational Centre be left controlled.
- (2) Adv. Muller on behalf of a committee of 37 Indian owners and shopkeepers in Grey Street complex recommended areas B4/I2, T and B3/I1 Indian Group Areas for trading purposes.
- (3) Mr. Morrison on behalf of Chamber of Industries recommended B4/I2, T and B3/I1 as full Indian Group Areas with exclusion of Roman Catholic Church, cemetery and municipal land. The municipal land to be a Future Indian Group Area.
- (4) Mr. A. M. Moolla supported by Mr. C. M. Bassa, Dr. M. B. Naidoo, Rector of M. L. Sultan College, Mr. A. M. Rajab and Mr. Nelson on behalf of Durban Central Indian Area Protection Committee recommended B4/I2, T and B3/I1 full Indian Group Areas, if unacceptable then B3/I1 be left controlled and B4/I2 and T proclaimed full Indian Group Areas for a particular purpose. The latter recommendation involves the amendment of section 19 (1) of the Group Areas Act.
- (5) Attorneys D. K. Singh and Co. on behalf of 15 Companies in the Grey Street complex recommended B4/I2, T and B3/I1 to be declared full Indian Group Areas.
- (6) Attorneys Tomlinson, Frances and Co. on behalf of Mr. M. Nulliah in his capacity as Managing Director of Bon Chance Restaurant recommended B4/I2, T and B3/I1 to be declared full Indian Group Areas.
- (2)
- (a) The area was defined in terms of section 6 of Act 28 of 1946 on 12th June, 1946, and in terms of section 13 (3) (a) of Act No. 41 of 1950 on 30th March, 1951. Due to the provisions of the said laws development in this area has been and still is subject to permit control.
- (b) If the area is declared a group area in terms of section 23 of the Group Areas Act (No. 36 of 1966) the control in terms of section 18 (3) (b) of this Act will cease on the date of proclamation, but if proclaimed in terms of section 19 of the said Act, the provisions of section 18 (3) (b) will continue to be applicable in the area.
The MINISTER OF HEALTH replied to Question *13, by Dr. E. L. Fisher.
- (1) Whether the Medical Research Council and its laboratories are to be moved to a new site; if so, (a) when, (b) where is the new site, (c) what is the reason for its removal, (d) what will be the total cost of the removal, (e) what is the cost of the site and (f) what is the estimated cost of the buildings;
- (2) whether an alternative site was offered; if so, (a) where was this site and (b) what was the estimated cost;
- (3) whether the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research made any representations in this regard; if so, what representations.
- (1) Yes. The Cabinet has approved in principle that the Administrative Head Office and the National Institute for Nutritional Research be moved to Cape Town. No other laboratory is affected by the decision.
- (a) A section of the Administrative Head Office was already moved early in December, 1970.
- (b) Tiervlei adjoining the Tygerberg Hospital complex.
- (c) The Council advised that it was the most suitable site, because, inter alia, it is close to medical facilities which would comply with the Council’s research requirements.
- (d) The cost of the removal of the Administrative Head Office to date amounts to R2 000.
- (e) and (f) The matter is still being investigated by a Committee composed of officials of the Department of Health and the South African Medical Research Council.
- (2) Yes.
- (a) Onderstepoort.
Bloemfontein.
C.S.I.R. and the University of Pretoria.
Frankelwald—near Johannesburg. (University of the Witwatersrand.) - (b) Onderstepoort and Bloemfontein—None.
C.S.I.R., University of Pretoria and Frankelwald—No exact particulars are at present available.
- (a) Onderstepoort.
- (3) Except for the sites offered no other representations were received from the Council.
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF BANTU DEVELOPMENT replied to Question *15, by Mr. W. H. D. Deacon.
What is the gross national product of Bantu agriculture in each of the Bantu territories of the Republic and South-West Africa, respectively.
Homelands |
Gross National Product - 1968/1969 R |
(a) Tswana |
10 649 000 |
Zulu |
14 394 000 |
South Sotho |
153 000 |
Lebowa, Matshangana and Venda combined |
7 813 000 |
Ciskei |
R194 000, which is abnormally low because of severe drought conditions in that year. |
(b) No particulars are available in respect of the Homelands in South-West Africa because the gross national product has not yet been determined.
—Reply standing over further.
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF BANTU DEVELOPMENT replied to Question *20, by Mr. G. N. Oldfield.
- (1) How many aged Bantu are at present accommodated at the home for aged Bantu at Lamontville;
- (2) whether additional aged Bantu will be admitted to this home; if not, why not.
- (1) 63.
- (2) No. According to the policy of the Government, aged Bantu must be resettled in the Homelands.
For written reply:
asked the Minister of Coloured Affairs:
- (1) (a) How many authorized posts, excluding those for teachers, exist on the establishment of the Department of Coloured Relations and Rehoboth Affairs within the Republic and on the establishment of the Administration of Coloured Affairs and (b) how many of these posts are occupied by (i) White and (ii) Coloured personnel;
- (2) what are the most senior administrative posts, other than in educational administration, occupied by Coloured personnel;
- (3) what are the salary scales for (a) White and (b) Coloured principal clerks.
- (1)
- (a) 2 839
- (b)
- (i) 706
- (ii) 2 078
- (2) Principal Clerk.
- (3)
- (a) R5 700x300—6 900.
- (b) R4 050 x 150—4 950.
asked the Minister of Justice:
- (1) (a) How many persons were executed in the Republic during 1970, (b) what was (i) the name and (ii) the race of each, (c) (i) for what crime and (ii) on what date was each one sentenced to death and (d) in what division of the Supreme Court was judgment given in each case;
- (2) in how many cases during 1970 was (a) an appeal lodged against the death sentence and (b) permission for appeal granted.
- (1)
- (a) 81.
- (b), (c) and (d) Out of respect for the relatives of the executed persons and because all the particulars were made public during the trials in the courts in each case, I am convinced that it is not desirable and will serve no purpose to furnish the information in the form asked for by the hon. member.
- (2)
- (a) 43 persons, in 26 cases, applied for leave to appeal.
- (b) 25 persons in 15 cases.
asked the Minister of National Education:
(a) How many Coloured students have enrolled in White universities for 1971 and (b) how many in each course.
The information is not available yet, because the universities undertake such census on the first day of June in every year.
asked the Minister of National Education:
How many White, Coloured, Indian and Bantu students, respectively, were enrolled in each faculty of each of the White universities in the Republic during 1970.
The following were enrolled on the first Tuesday of June, 1970:
University of the Orange Free State |
|
White |
|
Commerce and Public Administration |
646 |
Agriculture |
216 |
Arts and Philosophy |
1 062 |
Education |
1 135* |
Law |
236 |
Mathematics and Physical Science |
569 |
Social Sciences |
358 |
Total |
4 222 |
Potchefstroomse Universiteit vir C.H.O. |
|
Commerce and Public Administration |
1 013 |
Arts and Philosophy |
1 534 |
Education |
349 |
Law |
287 |
Theology |
92 |
Mathematics and Physical Science |
937 |
Total |
4 212 |
Rand Afrikaans University |
|
Commerce and Public Administration |
322 |
Arts and Philosophy |
506 |
Education |
20 |
Law |
110 |
Mathematics and Physical Science |
258 |
Total |
1 216 |
* Includes 775 students enrolled at Provincial Teacher Training Colleges.
University of Port Elizabeth |
|
White |
|
Commerce and Public Administration |
375 |
Arts and Philosophy |
378 |
Education |
107 |
Law |
92 |
Mathematics and Physical Science |
136 |
Total |
1 088 |
University of Pretoria |
|
Medicine |
1 822 |
Commerce and Public Administration |
1 640 |
Engineering |
1 487 |
Agriculture |
360 |
Arts and Philosophy |
3 357 |
Education |
569 |
Law |
447 |
Fine Arts |
92 |
Dentistry |
332 |
Theology |
184 |
Veterinary Science |
342 |
Mathematics and Physical Science |
1 832 |
Total |
12 464 |
University of Stellenbosch |
|
Medicine |
677 |
Commerce and Public Administration |
1 251 |
Engineering |
789 |
Agriculture and Forestry |
479 |
Arts and Philosophy |
2 263 |
Education |
916 |
Law |
116 |
Theology |
236 |
Mathematics and Physical Science |
885 |
Military Science |
166 |
Total |
7 778 |
Rhodes University |
White |
Coloured |
Indian (and other Asiatic) |
Bantu |
Commerce and Public Administration |
302 |
— |
18 |
— |
Arts and Philosophy |
776 |
— |
5 |
— |
Education |
145 |
— |
— |
— |
Law |
13 |
— |
— |
— |
Theology |
17 |
— |
— |
— |
Mathematics and Physical Science |
434 |
— |
17 |
— |
Social Sciences |
79 |
— |
— |
— |
Total |
1 766 |
— |
40 |
— |
White |
Coloured |
Indian (and other Asiatic) |
Bantu |
|
University of the Witwatersrand |
||||
Architecture and Quantity Surveying |
443 |
2 |
16 |
— |
Medicine |
1 055 |
12 |
70 |
— |
Commerce and Public Administration |
2 080 |
4 |
65 |
— |
Engineering |
1 546 |
3 |
83 |
4 |
Arts and Philosophy |
2 130 |
1 |
16 |
— |
Education |
67 |
1 |
2 |
— |
Law |
225 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
Fine Arts |
88 |
— |
— |
— |
Dentistry |
274 |
3 |
13 |
— |
Mathematics and Physical Science |
943 |
— |
22 |
— |
Total |
8 851 |
29 |
290 |
5 |
University of Cape Town |
||||
Architecture and Quantity Surveying |
503 |
21 |
15 |
— |
Medicine |
898 |
103 |
54 |
— |
Commerce and Public Administration |
1 202 |
21 |
25 |
1 |
Engineering |
954 |
42 |
25 |
— |
Arts and Philosophy |
1 297 |
29 |
3 |
— |
Education |
290 |
5 |
1 |
— |
Law |
228 |
6 |
2 |
— |
Fine Arts |
149 |
10 |
1 |
— |
Mathematics and Physical Science |
891 |
1 |
10 |
— |
Music |
97 |
8 |
— |
— |
Social Sciences |
278 |
— |
2 |
— |
Other |
736 |
59 |
1 |
— |
Total |
7 523 |
305 |
139 |
1 |
University of Natal |
||||
Architecture and Quantity Surveying |
218 |
— |
13 |
— |
Medicine |
— |
33 |
242 |
154 |
Commerce and Public Administration |
1 487 |
6 |
10 |
— |
Engineering |
764 |
— |
20 |
— |
Agriculture |
296 |
1 |
— |
— |
Arts and Philosophy |
1 442 |
4 |
36 |
1 |
Education |
210 |
— |
5 |
— |
Law |
122 |
1 |
16 |
6 |
Fine Arts |
30 |
— |
— |
— |
Mathematics and Physical Science |
811 |
— |
3 |
— |
Social Sciences |
219 |
— |
— |
— |
Total |
5 599 |
45 |
345 |
161 |
University of South Africa |
||||
Commerce and Public Administration |
5 715 |
91 |
265 |
168 |
Arts and Philosophy |
5 800 |
344 |
453 |
1 537 |
Education |
533 |
42 |
49 |
65 |
Law |
2 126 |
25 |
91 |
384 |
Fine Arts |
79 |
2 |
6 |
4 |
Theology |
122 |
10 |
1 |
29 |
Mathematics and Physical Science |
1 241 |
35 |
111 |
109 |
Total |
15 616 |
549 |
976 |
2 296 |
asked the Minister of Police:
Whether the inquiry into the alleged participation of a member of the Department of Cultural Affairs in a plan to damage the printing press of a newspaper, referred to by him in his statement of 7th June, 1968, has been completed; if so, with what result; if not, why not.
I have already told the hon. member in reply to a similar question on Friday, 7th March, 1969, that investigations had been concluded and that the allegations had appeared to be unfounded.
asked the Minister of Police:
- (1) How many (a) masters and (b) servants were prosecuted during the period 1st July, 1969, to 30th June, 1970, for offences under the Master and Servants Act;
- (2) how many (a) employers and (b) employees were prosecuted during this period for offences under the Bantu Labour Act.
Statistics in the form required by the hon. member are unfortunately not kept.
asked the Minister of Police:
- (1) Whether any persons were arrested and detained in terms of section 215 bis of the Criminal Procedure Act during the period 1st July, 1970, to 31st December, 1970; if so, (a) how many and (b) for what period was each of them detained before being (i) called as a witness or (ii) released without being so called;
- (2) whether any persons are at present under detention in terms of this section; if so, (a) how many and (b) on what date was each of them arrested.
- (1) Yes.
- (a) 3.
- (b)
- (i) 1 for 40 days.
2 for 29 days. - (ii) None.
- (i) 1 for 40 days.
- (2) Yes.
- (a) 1.
- (b) 4th February, 1971.