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House of Assembly: Vol19 - MONDAY 1 FEBRUARY 1988

MONDAY, 1 FEBRUARY 1988 Prayers—14h15. ACCELERATION OF DATE FOR RESUMPTION OF BUSINESS OF HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT (Announcement) *The CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE:

Order! I must inform the House that by virtue of the power vested in him by a resolution adopted by the House of Assembly on 5 October 1987, Mr Speaker accelerated the business of the House of Assembly to Monday, 1 February 1988.

Please allow me, too, to welcome all hon members back and to wish them a very fruitful year.

 REPORT OF SELECT COMMITTEE Dr H M J VAN RENSBURG:

as Chairman, presented the Report of the Select Committee on a Question of Privilege, dated 1 February 1988, as follows:

Your Committee, having considered the alleged breach of privilege referred to it (see Minutes of Proceedings of the House of Assembly, 21 May 1987, p 14), begs to report as follows:
  1. 1. By resolution of the House of Assembly your Committee was appointed on 21 May 1987 with as its terms of reference “to enquire into and report upon a breach of privilege allegedly committed by Mr D J Dalling in that he reflected on the Honourable Mr Justice Munnik in his judicial capacity and on his honour and personal conduct, the Committee to have power to take evidence and call for papers”.
  2. 2. Your Committee’s enquiry arose from a speech delivered by Mr D J Dalling in the House of Assembly on 20 May 1987, in which he referred inter alia to the Honourable Mr Justice G G A Munnik, Judge President of the Supreme Court of South Africa (Cape Division), and his actions in relation to a commission of enquiry appointed by the State President following upon certain advertisements regarding the African National Congress appearing in certain newspapers, of which Judge President Munnik was appointed as sole member and chairman and which produced its report on 27 April 1987.
  3. 3. Your Committee met on various occasions to give consideration to the papers before it and to deliberate. The Hansard transcript of the speech of Mr Dalling in the House of Assembly on 20 May 1987, a memorandum prepared by Advocates D P de Villiers, QC, and F D J Brand for Mr Dalling, correspondence from Mr Dalling and a written submission by Dr F J van Heerden, MP, were submitted to your Committee.
  4. 4. Your Committee is of the opinion that the basis of its enquiry was the action, conduct and words of Mr Dalling during his above-mentioned speech of 20 May 1987 in the House of Assembly. The question before your Committee was therefore whether the allegations made by Mr Dalling in the course of his said speech constitute a breach of privilege.
  5. 5. Your Committee’s task was made considerably more difficult by a lack of legal rules, rules of procedure or precedents having a direct bearing on the question as to whether the allegations made by Mr Dalling in the course of his speech concerned constituted a breach of parliamentary privilege or not.
  6. 6. In its deliberations your Committee therefore had to avail itself of and be led by general legal rules, rules of procedure, practices and precedents and could not come to a final conclusion as regards the applicability thereof to the case in question.
  7. 7. As regards the said allegations by Mr D J Dalling, your Committee in view of the aforegoing resolved to confine itself to the following finding, about which there is no doubt, namely that—
    1. (i) it is an established and recognized parliamentary practice that no attack other than by way of a substantive motion may be made in Parliament on a judge of the Supreme Court of South Africa in his judicial capacity, or regarding his honour or personal conduct;
    2. (ii) Mr D J Dalling in the course of his said speech failed to abide by this practice and acted in conflict therewith; and
    3. (iii) Mr D J Dalling should present his apologies for the aforesaid breach in writing to Mr Speaker.
  8. 8. In view of the lack of legal and procedural rules and precedents which have a direct bearing on a case such as the one in question your Committee is of the opinion that there is a need for a comprehensive inquiry into the matter of parliamentary privilege in all its facets, and your Committee submits that a joint committee, representative of all three Houses of Parliament, be constituted for this purpose, with the instruction to propose appropriate amendments or additions to the Standing Rules and Orders and related legislation if and where necessary.

Report and proceedings to be printed.

 VACANCIES (Announcement) *The CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE:

Order! I must announce that vacancies have occurred in the representation in the House of Assembly of the following electoral divisions:

  1. (a) Randfontein, owing to the death of Dr the Hon C P Mulder on 12 January 1988.
  2. (b) Schweizer-Reneke, with effect from 27 November 1987, owing to the dis-qualification for membership of Mr J M Beyers in terms of section 54(b) of the Constitution; and
  3. (c) Standerton, with effect from 15 October 1987, owing to the disqualification for membership of Mr J R de Ville in terms of section 54(e) of the Constitution.
 REPORT OF PRESIDENT’S COUNCIL ON REMUNERATION OF TOWN CLERKS BILL AND PENSION BENEFITS FOR COUNCILLORS OF LOCAL AUTHORITIES BILL (Statement) *The LEADER OF THE HOUSE:

Mr Chairman, the purpose of this afternoon’s sitting is not to discuss the Order Paper, as printed in terms of the rules.

On 13 November 1987, the State President referred the Remuneration of Town Clerks Amendment Bill and the Pension Benefits for Councillors of Local Authorities Bill to the President’s Council for its decision, in terms of section 32 (1) (a) and (b) of the Constitution. Last week the President’s Council came to a decision on both Bills.

†In terms of section 78(8) of the Constitution such a decision of the President’s Council must be laid upon the Table in the respective Houses of Parliament within 14 days after its receipt by the State President.

In the light of the specific wording of section 78(8), in contrast with section 78(7) of the Constitution, it is clear that such tabling must take place during the same session in which the relevant Bills were introduced in Parliament and referred to the President’s Council.

The main purpose of the sitting this afternoon is therefore to comply with the above-mentioned provisions before the prorogation of Parliament later this week.

While we are here, I intend to move a motion of condolence shortly in consequence of the death recently of the late Dr the Hon C P Mulder, the former hon member for Randfontein.

After that I shall move the adjournment of the House until Friday, 5 February 1988.

 MOTION OF CONDOLENCE (The late Dr the Hon C P Mulder) *The LEADER OF THE HOUSE:

Mr Chairman, I move without notice:

That the House expresses its deep regret at the death on 12 January 1988 of Dr the Hon Cornelius Petrus Mulder, who represented the electoral division of Randfontein, and desires to place on record its appreciation of his service, in particular as a member of Parliament for more than 21 years and as a Minister for more than 12 years. The House further resolves that its sincere sympathy in their bereavement be conveyed to the relatives of the deceased.

The late Dr Mulder died on 12 January of this year at the relatively early age of 62 years. He was born in Potchefstroom on 5 June 1925, went to school in Potchefstroom and Krugersdorp and subsequently, in 1945, obtained his BA and HOD degrees at Potchefstroom University. Whilst a teacher in Randfontein, he obtained his doctor’s degree at the University of the Witwatersrand in 1957 with his thesis Die invloed van die Bybel op die Vorming van die Afrikaner. During this period he was also a town councillor and mayor of Randfontein.

On 16 April 1958 he was elected MP for Randfontein and on 12 December 1968 became a member of the Cabinet. As a Minister he held various portfolios, including that of Immigration. He was also Minister of Information, of the Interior and of Social Welfare and Pensions from 1 August 1972 to 29 January 1978, and then of Bantu Administration and Development from 30 January 1978 to 30 February 1978, after which the relevant Ministry came to be known as the Ministry of Plural Relations and Development, a portfolio he held until 7 November 1978.

In 1974 he became the leader of the NP in the Transvaal, a post he held for just over four years.

He then served in the President’s Council from 1 September 1984 to 5 May 1987, being elected MP for Randfontein on 6 May 1987, a position he occupied until the time of his death on 12 January 1988.

We shall remember the late Dr Connie Mulder as a politician of stature, a friendly and approachable person and a hard worker. During the long years that many of us on this side of the House had him as a colleague in the same party, served with him in the Cabinet, in the same caucus and executive committees of the party, very warm ties of friendship developed. He was indeed a valued colleague.

After our ways parted, politically speaking, we found him to be a formidable opponent, but one with whom one could always communicate on a friendly basis, man to man, regardless of the fact that one opposed him and that one was his political opponent.

If I must single out a particularly striking aspect of the late Dr Mulder, let me say at the outset that he displayed exceptional enthusiasm in every task he carried out. He could give himself, with great enthusiasm and commitment, to any matter he tackled in whatever sphere. A further typical characteristic was an exceptionally warm-hearted friendliness towards both friend and foe at all times. I particularly came to know him as someone who could always make time for one.

As a result he was frequently late for a meeting, because en route he could not say ‘no’ to anyone because of his constant willingness to discuss matters with people and to listen to what they had to say. One truly felt that he was a great fellow human being, and we on this side of the House had great appreciation for that fact. On behalf of this side of the House I should like to convey our deepest sympathy to his wife, Mrs Suzanne Mulder, and her family.

 *Mr F J LE ROUX:

Mr Chairman, as members of the Official Opposition we most sincerely endorse the motion of the hon Leader of the House. For South Africa the death of Dr Mulder is an acute loss. For those of us in this party who have, particularly during virtually the past six years, co-operated with him intimately in the political sphere, his passing has taken from us a devout, loved and inspired leader imbued with a far-sighted vision for his people whom he loved sincerely. It should be emphasised that in the efforts he made to obtain and preserve for his people their fundamental rights, he did not begrudge those same rights to other peoples. For his wife, Suzanne, his children and his grandchildren he was a model of loyalty and heartfelt love. One of Dr Mulder’s exceptional characteristics in public life was pre-eminently his loyalty to his leaders and his colleagues, his unswerving adherence to principles and his unassuming courtesy. He did not seek personal glory.

In all his conduct, even that for which he had to endure criticism, his motives were unsullied. He acted in accordance with his own lights, serving the highest interests of his country and his people. He was no tragic figure; with commitment he helped assure his people of a place among the nations of the world.

Dr Mulder was a relentless fighter. After having failed, by a few votes, to gain the highest rung in public life, he made a valiant return to politics, firstly to the Randfontein town council and then back to this highest Chamber. During his last, harrowing illness, Dr Mulder again showed his mettle. A man of lesser character and endurance would long since have given up the struggle, but he fought to the very last breath.

He was not destined to achieve all his ideals, and we can merely join in the cry of the psalmist: “Instead of thy fathers shall be thy children. ”

We lament the passing of a great Afrikaner, a comrade in arms and a friend, and in deep commiseration our hearts go out to his wife and his other loved ones.

 Mr C W EGLIN:

Mr Chairman, I would like to associate the members of the PFP with this motion and the tribute which has been paid to the late Dr Connie Mulder. I want to add something of a personal nature because many hon members in opposition did not get to know Connie well as he had not been back here for very long. I was one of those who joined him in these benches in 1958 and so, together with some of my colleagues, was associated with him as a political opponent for over 30 years. I think that at that time he entered Parliament with such personalities as the late Dr Hilgard Muller, Fanie Botha, Blaar Coetzee and Frans Cronjé of the old United Party, and one recalls in almost sentimental terms that class of 1958.

One remembers Connie Mulder in particular as an outgoing, almost gregarious personality, someone who was not only prepared but almost eager to engage people in conversation, discussion and debate. It was very difficult to get away from Connie Mulder at the end of a dinner party when he was on one of his particular political hobby-horses.

While we in these benches differed sharply from Dr Mulder on his political philosophy and the management of his administration, we found that he was always friendly and affable by nature, and that his style was not to allow sharp political differences to sour his personal relationships with his colleagues across the floor of this House.

It is against that background that we will remember him, and we associate ourselves with the House in conveying our sympathy to his next of kin.

 *Mr W C MALAN:

Mr Chairman, on behalf of the NDM I should also like to endorse the motion which has been moved. It was my privilege to have known Dr Mulder for many years—also when I was a member of the NP, even before I ventured into politics at this level, but nevertheless took an active interest in party matters. There were few people as dynamic as Dr Mulder. The practical patriotism with which he was imbued frequently bordered on the chauvinistic. Particularly during the years we were both here in Parliament, when he was my Transvaal leader, I came to know him as a person who sought a basis for justice—a principle underlying what he believed in. I frequently asked myself whether there was not indeed something in his political moves that accorded with this search. His death, amidst reports of recovery, came as a great shock, and our sympathy goes out to his wife and family.

 Mr R W HARDINGHAM:

Mr Chairman, while it was not possible for me to know the late Dr Connie Mulder for any length of time, I can only just record our condolences on behalf of those ex-collegues of mine who knew him well and who had great respect for him as a man of integrity and as a man of great ability. In the short time I knew him those sentiments held by my ex-colleagues were soon passed on to me and I too wish to pay great respect to the late Dr Connie Mulder and to express my sympathies to his family.

Question agreed to unanimously, all the members standing.

 ADJOURNMENT OF HOUSE (Motion) *The LEADER OF THE HOUSE:

Mr Chairman, I move without notice:

That the House do now adjourn until Friday, 5 February. Mr H H SCHWARZ:

Mr Chairman, on a point of order: I am under the impression that we may still give notice of motions and I would like to do so. Secondly, I should like to take a point of order. [Interjections.] No, Sir, I am not waiting until Monday; I want to do so today.

 *The CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE:

Order! The hon the Leader of the House said that we would not follow the Order Paper, but the hon member is right; we did not vote on it. Therefore we have to follow the normal procedure. Notices of motion may now be given.

 Mr H H SCHWARZ:

Thank you, Mr Chairman. I give notice that I shall move tomorrow:

That this House calls upon the Government to take further urgent steps to deal with the serious crime position prevailing in South Africa, which not only endangers the person and property of ordinary citizens but also threatens the stability of the country.

I now wish to raise the following point of order: I listened to the hon the Leader of the House say that the purpose of calling this sitting today was to receive the reports which had been submitted by the President’s Council in respect of two measures. I have previously raised the issue of what is meant by tabling a report in this House and, when that announcement was made, I accordingly asked that I should be allowed to see where on the Table these reports were and that I should be allowed to see these reports. As a result I was shown a document which appeared to be a photostat of a report by the Chairman of the President’s Council to the hon the State President in respect of the Remuneration of Town Clerks Amendment Bill and nothing in respect of the other measure at all. I would like to raise with you this point of order: Where on the Table are these reports for which we are here? If we have come to have these reports tabled, we have come here for nothing because they are not on the Table.

Either they are on the Table or they are not on the Table. [Interjections.] According to the information I received… [Interjections.]

 *Mr J H VAN DER MERWE:

They are under wraps!

 Mr H H SCHWARZ:

Clearly, Sir, there is an hon member here who is under the table, but I do not want to deal with that for the moment.

May I therefore ask you, Sir, whether you would show me where on the Table these reports are and whether you will allow me to see them, as I have been called here today in order that these reports may be put on the Table.

 *The LEADER OF THE HOUSE:

Mr Chairman, exhaustive discussions were held during the preparation for today’s proceedings. I was satisfied—also on the basis of advice we received from the Secretariat of Parliament—that tabling, by way of convention, only occurs physically on a few exceptional occasions, for example in respect of the Budget and certain facets thereof. In the ordinary sense of the word however “tabling”, as numerous documents are tabled here, does not mean that a physical deed as such takes place. Since we convened here the tabling of the documents concerned has therefore been disposed of according to convention, and I have the assurance that, in that way, all the required formalities have been complied with.

 Mr H H SCHWARZ:

Mr Chairman, I should like to respond briefly to the hon the Leader of the House. Whatever happens outside of this House in any office cannot be called the tabling of documents in this House, because certain procedures could follow when documents have been tabled and certain steps have to be taken. It is actually impossible to table a document which hon members of this House cannot see. Either a document is able to be seen by hon members of the House, in which case it has been tabled or, alternatively, it has not been tabled.

I would therefore like to suggest to you, Sir, that, as we sit here the reality is that these reports have not been tabled. If that is so and the hon the Leader of the House moves the adjournment of the House and the motion is agreed to, we shall have come here for nothing because the documents have not been tabled.

What the hon Leader of the House is going to have to do, therefore, is to withdraw his motion for the adjournment of the House and we shall have to come back tomorrow so that the documents may be tabled.

 The CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE:

Order! I am informed that the Committee on Standing Rules and Orders took a decision on this point many years ago. I am also informed that usually the tabling of documents is not a physical act but is merely recorded in the Minutes of this House. That may not correspond to what the hon member defines as tabling but that is the convention as I understand it and as I am informed. I do not wish lightly to deviate from that convention. I will follow that convention but if there is any argument in this regard I suggest that the Committees on Standing Rules and Orders should perhaps look at the matter more fully. However, that is my ruling according to my information regarding the convention.

 Mr H H SCHWARZ:

Mr Chairman, on a further point of order: If that were the case—and with respect, Sir, I submit that that cannot be the case—when are hon members of this House who have come here today to receive the report, going to receive it? Are they going to receive it after we have adjourned? There are procedures that can follow when documents are tabled because hon members are entitled to ask to debate them. In this case, however, it is not possible to debate anything because we have not seen the report. With great respect, therefore, while I have to accept it when you say that we shall follow the convention, I wish to dispute it, as we do not have the opportunity of dealing with the document.

 The CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE:

Order! The hon member may dispute the convention. He is quite entitled to do. The fact of the matter is, however, that I will not lightly depart from the convention. That is my ruling. If I am misinformed, I shall look into this matter and then we can take it further.

As regards the question of when the hon member will be able to peruse the documents, it is for him to consult with the clerk of the papers and then take up the matter with his caucus. I cannot take it any further. I feel myself bound by the convention and therefore I cannot lightly depart from it. That is my ruling.

 *Mr F J LE ROUX:

Mr Chairman, the CP takes the strongest exception to this proposed adjournment. We heard for the first time today, officially, why we are assembled here. In December 1987 all hon members of Parliament received notification from Mr Speaker in which we were told to be present in Parliament today. The Government did not inform any of the hon members what matters were going to appear on the Order Paper; what the purpose of this meeting was. What is more, we communicated with the officials and subsequently with the hon Chief Whip of Parliament, but he was not available. We also approached the hon Chief Whip of the NP, but nowhere were we able to ascertain why he had to assemble here on 1 February 1988.

 *The CHIEF WHIP OF PARLIAMENT:

That is not true!

 *Mr F J LE ROUX:

That is another indication of the arrogance with which this Government treats the country. It is an indication of how they deal with orderly, meaningful administration and how frequently they act in an ad hoc manner. Now we do not know whether we are to proceed with the matters appearing on the Order Paper or whether the Government is once again sitting with its hands folded so that no one must know why we had to assemble here on 1 February.

This caused us to advance our caucus meeting to Thursday, 28 January 1988, whereas we would have held our caucus meeting on this coming Wednesday. We did so because we would have expected, in the normal course of business, that the programme of Parliament would have been proceeded with normally during these sittings. We expected that we would have known by 28 January why we were being called to meet on 1 February. I myself came to Cape Town on 19 January and once again tried to get in touch with the hon Chief Whip of Parliament, which I then succeeded in doing. I then got in touch with the hon Chief Whip of the NP as well. Yet no one was able to tell me why we were going to meet.

 *The CHIEF WHIP OF PARLIAMENT:

When was that?

 *Mr F J LE ROUX:

On 19 January in the lobbies.

 The CHIEF WHIP OF PARLIAMENT:

[Inaudible.]

 *Mr F J LE ROUX:

If the hon Chief Whip wants it that way, I shall tell him what he told me when I asked him why we had to meet. [Interjections.] Not one of them was able to give me an indication of what we could expect this week. We were not even able to establish whether we would hold the customary meeting with the hon Leader of the House on 28 January 1988. After all, it is the practice to meet on Thursday to discuss the next week’s programme.

 *The CHIEF WHIP OF PARLIAMENT:

That is not the practice.

 *Mr F J LE ROUX:

The hon Chief Whip says it is not the practice; but it is in fact the practice. Surely this is the continuation of last year’s session. [Interjections.] No one knew to what matters on the Order Paper precedence would be given or whether the amended Rules and Orders and the consequential amendment of the Constitution would be debated. We do not know whether boss Hendrickse has perhaps stated that it would be in order.

 *The CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE:

Order! The hon member must withdraw those words.

 *Mr F J LE ROUX:

I withdraw them, Sir.

We do not know whether the Leader of the Labour Party has perhaps consented to our now being able to meet in the large Chamber… [Interjections.]… or whether we would have been able to discuss the Bills that had been referred to the President’s Council. We were not even given an indication in confidence of what we were supposed to do this week. Only on 26 January, during a meeting convened by the hon Chief Whip of Parliament for the Whips of the various parties, did we ascertain that no discussion of legislation or normal business was being envisaged for this week.

 *The CHIEF WHIP OF PARLIAMENT:

Surely that is not true.

 *Mr F J LE ROUX:

The hon Chief Whip must tell me in what respect I am not telling the truth. I am speaking according to the notes I made in my own diary in connection with this matter. Wherever I have presented the facts incorrectly, he must set me straight.

The result of this late notification was that we in turn had to notify our caucus members that it was not necessary for them to return. Some had already departed, and could not be reached in time. This is just not good enough, Mr Chairman. Can you imagine what this ill-considered and thoughtless behaviour is costing the taxpayer in this overtaxed country?

These 308 hon members have once again assembled for the session. Only seven standing committees are sitting this week. Only 23 members serve on such a standing committee, and 161 hon members are therefore involved. The other hon members—slightly fewer than half of them—are sitting and waiting unproductively for the opening of Parliament on Friday, 5 February. [Interjections.] This is the behaviour of a Government that gives us to understand, in season and out of season, that it is governing this country in an orderly way and with vision. Could it not have foreseen that the President’s Council’s report would be tabled today during this session? Could it not have foreseen that we would have been able to stay on for a few days for the orderly business of this House? There are many Bills on the Order Paper and many hon Ministers tried last year to have some of these Bills piloted through Parliament. Here we have 308 hon members ready to proceed. But this is a Government which governs in an ad hoc way—as is the case with its entire political point of departure as well. This Government is without direction, seeking the ever-elusive consensus, without plan, without enthusiasm, without inspiration, worn by the tides of 40 years, punch-drunk and now, more than ever, resorting to autocratic methods and arrogant ways of governing this country. We oppose this proposed adjournment.

 *The CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE:

Order! I am not exactly sure whether the hon member for Brakpan is opposing this proposed adjournment by virtue of the fact that it was made without notice or whether he is opposing the adjournment until Friday.

 *Mr F J LE ROUX:

Mr Chairman, I am opposing the adjournment of the House at this moment, but not the fact that it occurred without notice.

 Mr D J N MALCOMESS:

Mr Chairman, when one listens to the hon the Chief Whip of the Official Opposition, it becomes exceptionally clear what has been going on in the background during the short recess. What basically happened was that a House of Parliament had refused to pass two Bills which were then handed to the President’s Council for apparent judgment as to whether these Bills should be passed or not. Our system—as I have said before—is one of deceit and dictatorship. It is deceitful in that it pretends to be a democracy. In what is happening here today we have a clear indication that it is in fact not democratic.

We have been called together to receive a President’s Council’s report on two Bills which will now go through and become laws of this land despite the fact that one of the Houses and hon members of the opposition in the other two Houses had voted against those particular Bills. They have therefore not been passed by Parliament. They had to go to the President’s Council.

Why has the Government not been able to tell us why we were called here today in regard to these Bills. They were not able to do so, because the President’s Council had not yet debated those Bills. They could not say we had to come together to have the Bills tabled when the President’s Council had not even met, so they could not tell us why we were being called to Parliament, because they would then be seen to be pre-empting or prejudging the decision that the President’s Council was going to make. They did not do it with words, but with deeds. They did it by advising us long before the President’s Council had debated these two Bills that we were going to be called together in this House today. By calling Parliament together in mid-December in order to receive the reports of the President’s Council, they were therefore taking the decision that they knew the way the President’s Council was going to vote.

Therefore it is absolutely clear that the hon the State President’s boys in the President’s Council had their instructions as to what action they had to take, which is why I go as far as to call this tricameral Parliament system with the President’s Council a dictatorship.

This is the clearest indication that we in this Parliament have ever had of the reality of the situation in South Africa and that is that the White majority party in the House of Assembly have total control of the legislative system in this country and will continue to force through the legislation that they believe should be passed, in spite of the objections of the other two Houses.

The hon member for Brakpan mentioned the question of cost. We must not forget that we had many adjournments towards the end of the last session to which both the opposition parties objected strongly, because of the tremendous cost to the electorate. At that stage I said in the House that it was costing the electorate some R6 million a week. Now we are going to be wasting the best part of another week. We shall be gathered here at great expense for perhaps an hour today and it is now proposed that we should only reconvene on Friday for the official opening of the new session.

There are many Bills on the Order Paper that we could debate. No fewer than 41 Bills have been referred to committees before Second Reading. If the standing committees were doing their job in the recess surely a number of those Bills should have been passed by the standing committees. Could we not have debated them this week in order to get them out of the way? No, Sir, we are going to waste the taxpayers’ money by having an additional three days of adjournment this week.

When this tricameral Parliament was originally started it was mooted that the official opening should be on the Friday following 15 January. If we had gone ahead on that basis we should have been starting the second week of debate in the 1988 session of Parliament today. We have all had an additional holiday as members of Parliament and wasted several weeks because we could not be called together in January. The reason for that is that the Government were not ready for us to get together, because the legislation was not prepared and they had nothing for us to do.

I believe that this is one of the causes of the horrific inflation we have in this country today, because with a Government like this, one must expect double digit inflation in South Africa.

We know that the hon the State President has called a conference with the private sector leaders to be held later this week—I think on Thursday. I believe the hon the State President should have that conference with the public sector leaders such as the heads of departments, Cabinet Ministers and the heads of the State bodies such as the South African Transport Services.

 The CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE:

Order! Perhaps the hon member should return to the point under discussion.

 Mr D J N MALCOMESS:

With pleasure, Sir; I am talking about the inflation caused by the Government, brought about by the additional expense involved in this extra sitting, and I am indicating that it is the bureaucracy and the Government which are, in this manner, creating double digit inflation.

I therefore recommend that the hon the State President’s conference, which we understand will be largely concerned with inflation, should be held with Cabinet Ministers of this Government and the departments of this Government and with State bodies such as the SATS, because they are the people in whose hands inflation lies, and they are the people who can do the most to stop inflation in this country.

With all these things in mind, we have absolutely no intention to do anything other than voting against the proposed adjournment of this House.

 *The LEADER OF THE HOUSE:

Mr Chairman, a great deal of dust has been raised in regard to this matter. The entire case of both opposition parties falls flat if I refer them to a Press statement which the hon Chief Whip of Parliament issued on 11 January—because it was published—in which he gave the exact reason for our having convened here. They may therefore complain that the statement was rather late, but to create the impression that they were brought here under false pretences and that the reason for it was not made known, is simply not correct. The statement reads as follows:

The Speaker of Parliament has accelerated the resumption of business of the Houses of Parliament to Monday, 1 February 1988, in terms of resolutions adopted by the various Houses authorising him to do so. The report of the President’s Council in connection with the Remuneration of Town Clerks Amendment Bill and the Pension Benefits for Councillors of Local Authorities Bill referred to the President’s Council for a decision, can therefore be tabled during the current session. Leaders of the various Houses can, in consultation, have any other matter discussed or disposed of which is permitted by the rules. Thus far I have not received any such requests.

According to my information the statement was also made on television. Now these two responsible hon members are trying to imply that the hon Chief Whip of Parliament and this side kept everything under wraps, and that they only became aware of what was happening a few days ago. Sir, I think that that is absolutely shocking. [Interjections.]

Let us go a little further, Sir. It is being said that we are wasting vast amounts of taxpayers’ money. We could have convened the three Houses earlier, but we made arrangements closer to the time we would have had to be here in any case, in order to save money.

 *Mr J H VAN DER MERWE:

Why not Thursday?

 *The LEADER OF THE HOUSE:

The hon member wants to know why we did not arrange it for Thursday. The reason is that the day or two prior to the opening of Parliament are traditionally used by the parties for important caucus meetings, and if I look at the opposition, it would seem that they need more than a day or two for their caucus meetings. [Interjections.] Hon members of the Official Opposition must decide who the boss is in their party, and those hon members of the PFP must decide who is undermining who in their party. [Interjections.]

In this way hon members of the various parties are allowed plenty of time, according to their normal practices, to arrange their affairs. This date could have been tomorrow if we could have been sure, beforehand, that there would be no technical objection which might have meant sitting for two days. That is why we are sitting today. It was calculated to keep costs to a minimum and in compliance with the Constitution.

I now come to the Constitution. According to our legal advice, the legal validity of legislation considered by the President’s Council in this manner is not affected by our convening or not convening.

 Mr H H SCHWARZ:

[Inaudible.]

 *The LEADER OF THE HOUSE:

No, I had this advice confirmed by several sources. The fact is, however, that when the hon the State President took his official oath, he undertook to comply with the provisions of the Constitution and section 78(8), read in conjunction with sections 32(1) and 32(4), specifically requires that Parliament must be consulted in the manner in which we are now doing.

Therefore, whilst the tabling of the decision of the President’s Council that the Bill be submitted for consent can no longer influence the course of the legislation in question, it nevertheless represents a gesture of courtesy towards Parliament.

 *Mr H H SCHWARZ:

A gesture of courtesy? We are not even able to see the document! [Interjections.]

 *The LEADER OF THE HOUSE:

In the case of the decision of the President’s Council the legislative function of Parliament is transferred, for practical purposes, to the President’s Council and is fitting that this matter is again tabled, during the relevant session of Parliament, in the latter institution, as the place of origin of that legislation.

†The hon member for Port Elizabeth Central discerned in these procedures an effort to deceive, although he phrased it in such a manner that you, Sir, could not call him to order. Whether the President’s Council had approved of this legislation or not, we would in any event have had to meet here in terms of section 78 of the Constitution. The Constitution does not say “only if the President’s Council should approve”. There is also an option. The President’s Council need not approve. Instead of approving or disapproving they can formulate advice, in which event—that is if they should refrain from taking a decision—they could recommend either a reconsideration of or amendments to the legislation in question. It falls within their power to do so. If such advice had been given the necessity for such a debate here could have arisen. This would also be the right place to debate such advice.

 Mr H H SCHWARZ:

Mr Chairman, will the hon the Leader of the House please tell us how it is possible for anybody to discuss and debate any document if they do not know what its contents are? [Interjections.]

 The LEADER OF THE HOUSE:

Mr Chairman, if the President’s Council had refrained from taking a decision, I am sure the hon member would certainly have known about it. I am sure he knows what the President’s Council decided. His party has members on that council. Or do they not communicate with each other? [Interjections.] He must not come and argue here on the basis of being totally uninformed—unless, of course, he is the only hon member of the PFP who no longer communicates with his colleagues! [Interjections.] The hon member knows—he has known all along—what the President’s Council decided. What I am saying is that if the President’s Council had decided differently, if they had exercised their option rather to formulate advice, we would have had a totally different situation here today, which might have necessitated a debate in this House. Because, however, the President’s Council approved there is absolutely no need for a debate. [Interjections.]

*I wish to raise a final point, Mr Chairman. Hon members opposite maintain that they are sitting here now and that nothing is happening. On top of that the hon Chief Whip of the CP maintains that more than half of the hon members are occupied with committee affairs. However, that does not signify. The hon member acts as though those are not activities of Parliament. During the session last year we heard the argument ad nauseam that when the three Houses of Parliament were not sitting, it did not mean that Parliament was not engaged in its activities. When more than half the hon members are occupied with the committees in which they are active at the moment, what would these hon members have said if we had decided to continue to deal with legislation? They seem to want us to proceed to deal with legislation today. [Interjections.] Would they not then have objected strenuously? Would they not then have wished to know how we could then have proceeded to deal with legislation whilst the standing committees were in progress? [Interjections.]

No, Sir, this is petty politics in which they are engaging. We regret that we find ourselves in this situation. It is a result of the dispute which arose in connection with this legislation at the end of the session last year. Therefore it was not possible to consider it in the usual manner. If we were to defer to the Constitution—which we on this side should like to do—we had to find a way of complying with the requirements of the Constitution without wasting any money or time and with minimal disruption to hon members. I believe that this sitting today, as well as the manner in which it was organised, duly complies with all the requirements I have just mentioned. I believe that in this manner we have managed the taxpayers’ money with the utmost responsibility; that the convenience of hon members was duly taken into account, and that they should be grateful instead of kicking up a fuss. [Interjections.]

 *Mr J H VAN DER MERWE:

Mr Chairman…

 *The CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE:

Order! I cannot allow the hon member to speak now. The debate has already been concluded by the mover’s reply.

 *Mr F J LE ROUX:

Mr Chairman, on a point of order: To my mind there is no provision that prohibits the continuation of the debate owing to the fact that the hon the Leader of the House has stood up to reply to it.

 *The LEADER OF THE HOUSE:

Sir, I waited for an hon member to rise. [Interjections.]

 *The CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE:

Order! I put the question before I called upon the hon the Leader of the House to speak. I then waited to see whether an hon member would rise, and when no one addressed me…

 *Mr F J LE ROUX:

At that point the hon the Leader of the House rose…

 *The CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE:

Order! My ruling is that the debate is closed.

Question put,

Upon which the House divided:

Ayes—127: Alant, T G; Aucamp, J M; Badenhorst, C J W; Badenhorst, P J; Bartlett, G S; Bekker, H J; Bloomberg, S G; Bosman, J F; Botha, C J van R; Botha, J C G; Botma, M C; Brazelle, J A; Breytenbach, W N; Camerer, S M; Chait, E J; Christophers, D; Clase, P J; Coetsee, H J; Coetzer, P W; Cunningham, J H; De Beer, L; De Beer, S J; De Klerk, F W; Delport, J T; De Pontes, P; De Villiers, D J; Dilley, L H M; Du Plessis, B J; Du Plessis, PTC; Durr, K D S; Edwards, B V; Farrell, P J; Fick, L H; Fismer, C L; Fourie, A; Geldenhuys, B L; Golden, S G A; Graaff, D de V; Grobler, A C A C; Grobler, P G W; Hattingh, C P; Heine, W J; Heunis, J C; Heyns, J H; Hugo, P F; Hunter, J E L; Jooste, J A; King, T J; Koornhof, N J J v R; Kotzé, G J; Kriel, H J; Kritzinger, W T; Kruger, T A P; Lemmer, J J; Le Roux, D E T; Louw, E v d M; Louw, I; Louw, M H; Malan, M A de M; Malherbe, G J; Marais, G; Marais, P G; Maré, P L; Maree, J W; Maree, M D; Matthee, J C; Matthee, P A; Meiring, J W H; Mentz, J H W; Meyer, A T; Meyer, R P; Myburgh, G B; Nel, P J C; Niemann, J J; Odendaal, W A; Olivier, P J S; Oosthuizen, G C; Pretorius, J F; Pretorius, P H; Radue, R J; Redinger, R E; Retief, J L; Scheepers, J H L; Schoeman, R S; Schoeman, S J (Walmer); Schoeman, S J (Sunnyside); Schoeman, W J; Schutte, DP A; Smit, F P; Smith, H J; Snyman, A J J; Steenkamp, P J; Steyn, D W; Steyn, P T; Streicher, D M; Swanepoel, J J; Swanepoel, K D; Swanepoel, P J; Terblanche, A J W P S; Van Breda, A; Van der Merwe, A S; Van der Merwe, C J; Van der Walt, A T; Van Deventer, F J; Van de Vyver, J H; Van Gend, D P de K; Van Heerden, F J; Van Niekerk, A I; Van Niekerk, W A; Van Rensburg, H M J; Van Vuuren, L M J; Van Wyk, J A; Van Zyl, J G; Veldman, M H; Venter, A A; Viljoen, G v N; Vilonel, J J; Vlok, A J; Welgemoed, P J; Wentzel, J J G; Wessels, L.

Tellers: Blanché, J P I; Jordaan, A L; Ligthelm, C J; Meyer, W D; Smit, H A; Thompson, A G.

Noes—33: Andrew, K M; Barnard, M S; Burrows, R M; Coetzee, H J; Dalling, D J; De Jager, C D; Eglin, C W; Ellis, M J; Hulley, R R; Jacobs, S C; Le Roux, F J; Lorimer, R J; Malcomess, D J N; Mentz, M J; Nolte, D G H; Olivier, N J J; Paulus, P J; Pienaar, D S; Prinsloo, J J S; Schoeman, C B; Schwarz, H H; Soal, P G; Suzman, H; Swart, RAF; Treurnicht, A P; Uys, C; Van der Merwe, S S; Van Eck, J; Van Gend, J B de R; Van Wyk, W J D; Walsh, J J.

Tellers: Snyman, W J; Van der Merwe, J H.

Question agreed to.

The House adjourned at 15h16 until Friday, 5 February.

 APPENDIX INDEX TO SPEECHES

Abbreviations: (C) = Committee; (R) = Reading; (A) = Amendment; Sel Com = Select Committee; JC = Joint Committee; SC = Standing Committee; SSC = Standing Select Committee

ALANT, Dr T G (Pretoria East):

  • [Deputy Minister of Economic Affairs and Technology]
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Trade and Industry, 3541, 3572
    • Credit Agreements (A), (2R) 4857
    • Merchandise Marks (A), (2R) 4867
    • Protection of Businesses (A), (2R) 6308, 6314

ANDREW, K M (Cape Town Gardens):

  • Motions:
    • Censure, 283, 288
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Education and Training; Development Aid, 2492; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5588
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Education and Culture, 2919, 2948, 2957, 2960; Local Government, Housing and Works, 3094
    • Universities (Education and Training) (A), (2R) 3229
    • Education Laws (Education and Training) (A), (2R) 6780

AUCAMP, J M:

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Budgetary and Auxiliary Services; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 2074; Education and Culture, 3031
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5668

BADENHORST, C J W (East London North):

  • Bills:
    • Post Office Appropriation, (C) 713
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R) 977

BADENHORST, P J (Oudtshoorn):

  • [Deputy Minister of Development Planning]
  • Reports of Committees:
    • Discussion of report of Committee for Constitutional Affairs of President’s Council (motion), 6689
  • Bills:
    • Sorghum Beer (A), (2R) 753, 1013
    • Constitutional Laws (A), (2R) 1024, 2258, 2319
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5690
    • Housing (A), (2R) 6904, 6917
    • Fire Brigade Services, (2R) 6960, 6975
    • Remuneration of Town Clerks (A), (2R) 6985
    • Pension Benefits for Councillors of Local Authorities, (2R) 7000

BARNARD, Dr M S (Parktown):

  • Reports of Committees:
    • Consideration of first report of SSC on Pensions, 6325
  • Motions:
    • Population development in the rural areas of SA, 493
  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R) 943
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (2R) 1370; (C) Votes—Budgetary and Auxiliary Services; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 2086; Welfare, 2134, 2189; Health Services, 4060
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1929; (C) Votes—Environment Affairs; Water Affairs, 2685; National Health and Population Development, 5160, 5199; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5768; (3R) 6189
    • Mental Health (A), (2R) 4872
    • Nursing (A), (2R) 4875
    • Tweefontein Timber Company Ltd (A), (2R) 4898
    • Environment Conservation (A), (2R) 4913
    • Pension Laws (A), (2R) 6322
    • Pensions (Supplementary), (2R) 6328
    • Forest (2A), (2R) 6372

BARTLETT, G S (Amanzimtoti):

  • [Deputy Minister of Economic Affairs and Technology]
  • Motions:
    • Censure, 178, 189
  • Bills:
    • Mines and Works (A), (2R) 3403, 3469
    • Coal (A), (2R) 3481, 3485
    • Sugar (A), (2R) 3486, 3491
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Mineral and Energy Affairs, 3625
    • Gold Mines Assistance Act Repeal, (2R) 4193
    • Credit Agreements (A), (2R) 4865
    • Merchandise Marks (A), (2R) 4868

BEKKER, H J (Jeppe):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1853; (3R) 6171
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Budgetary and Auxiliary Services; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 2042
    • Credit Agreements (A), (2R) 4863

BEYERS, J M (Schweizer-Reneke):

  • Motions:
    • Population development in the rural areas of SA, 505
    • Financial position of agriculture, 1490
  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R) 967
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1716; (C) Votes—Agricultural Economics and Marketing, 4330; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5662
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Education and Culture, 2949

BLANCHÉ, J P I (Boksburg):

  • Bills:
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R) 609; (3R) 747
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C) 1137
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1799; (C) Votes—Defence, 5871
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Budgetary and Auxiliary Services; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 2058
    • Professional Land Surveyors’ and Technical Surveyors’ (A), (2R) 5005

BLOOMBERG, Col S G (Bezuidenhout):

  • Bills:
    • Criminal Procedure (A), (2R) 554
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Welfare, 2145; Health Services, 4095
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Police, 5074; National Health and Population Development, 5178

BOSMAN, Brig J F (Germiston District):

  • Motions:
    • Security Forces, 812
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Environment Affairs; Water Affairs, 2729; Commission for Administration; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 4478; Police, 5122; Foreign Affairs, 5397; Defence, 5915
    • Security Officers, (2R) 6400

BOTHA, C J van R (Umlazi):

  • Motions:
    • Censure, 79
  • Bills:
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R) 633
    • Constitutional Laws (A), (2R) 1065, 1070
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1847; (C) Votes—State President, 3847; Home Affairs, 4701; Foreign Affairs, 5385; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5776; Defence, 5860; (3R) 6274
    • State Land Disposal (A), (2R) 4195
    • Town and Regional Planners (A), (2R) 4198
    • Architects’ (A),(2R)4997

BOTHA, J C G (Port Natal):

  • [Minister of Home Affairs and of Communications]
  • Motions:
    • Censure, 394
  • Bills:
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R) 585, 663, 666; (C) 679, 722; (3R) 730, 751
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Home Affairs, 4673, 4699, 4750

BOTHA, P W, DMS:

  • [State President]
  • Opening Address, 17
  • Statements:
    • Security situation in SA, 1181
    • Religious freedom and protection of minorities in SA, 4492
  • Reports of Committees:
    • Discussion of report of Committee for Constitutional Affairs of President’s Council (motion), 6668
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—State President, 3743, 3822, 3930

BOTHA, R F, DMS (Westdene):

  • [Minister of Foreign Affairs]
  • Motions:
    • Censure, 269
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Foreign Affairs, 5423

BOTMA, M C (Walvis Bay):

  • Bills:
    • Abolition of the Fisheries Development Corporation of SA, Ltd, (2R) 2332
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Environment Affairs; Water Affairs, 2683; State President, 3907; Defence, 5854
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Local Government, Housing and Works, 3090

BRAZELLE, J A (Kimberley North):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (2R) 1348; (C) Votes—Education and Culture, 2916
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Environment Affairs; Water Affairs, 2724
    • Education Laws (Education and Culture) (A), (2R) 6810

BREYTENBACH, W N (Kroonstad):

  • [Deputy Minister of Defence]
  • Motions:
    • Censure, 130
  • Bills:
    • Defence (A), (2R) 1259, 1295
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Defence, 5874

BURROWS, R M (Pinetown):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (2R) 1409; (C) Votes—Budgetary and Auxiliary Services; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 2093; Welfare, 2174; Education and Culture, 2989, 3043; Health Services, 4099; (3R) 4815
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1829; (C) Votes—National Education, 2393; Education and Training; Development Aid, 2501; Commission for Administration; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 4420; National Health and Population Development, 5189
    • Constitutional Laws (A), (2R) 2244
    • Temporary Removal of Restrictions on Economic Activities (A), (2R) 4852
    • Natural Scientists’ (A), (2R) 4931
    • Education Laws (Education and Culture) (A), (2R) 6813

CAMERER, Mrs S M (Rosettenville):

  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R) 939
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Welfare, 2139; Local Government, Housing and Works, 3174
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Trade and Industry, 3579; Finance; Audit, 5255
    • Housing (A), (2R) 6914

CHAIT, Mrs E J:

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1807; (C) Votes—Defence, 5932

CHRISTOPHERS, D (Germiston):

  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R) 962
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Welfare, 2197
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Trade and Industry, 3560; Finance; Audit, 5298; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5608; (3R) 6137
    • Merchandise Marks (A), (2R) 4868
    • Fire Brigade Services, (2R) 6973

CLASE, P J (Virginia):

  • [Minister of Education and Culture]
  • Reports of Committees:
    • Discussion of report of Committee for Constitutional Affairs of President’s Council (motion), 6732
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (2R) 1376, 1846 (personal explanation); (C) Votes—Education and Culture, 2877, 2937, 2962, 3035, 3046

COETSEE, H J (Bloemfontein West):

  • [Minister of Justice]
  • Motions:
    • Censure, 149
    • Appointment of Sel Com on breach of privilege, 245
    • Appointment of Sel Com on the Criminal Law and the Criminal Procedure Act Amendment Bill, 5613
  • Bills:
    • Mediation in Certain Divorce Matters, (2R) 421, 447
    • Insolvency (A), (2R) 569, 579
    • Magistrates’ Courts (A), (2R) 458, 536, 539
    • Criminal Procedure (A), (2R) 545, 563
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Justice, 2740, 2770, 2796, 2832; Prisons, 2843, 2870
    • Extradition (A), (2R) 4160, 4166
    • Intestate Succession, (2R) 5997, 6008
    • Children’s Status, (2R) 6012, 6042
    • Judges’ Remuneration (2A), (2R) 6921, 6930
    • Supreme Court (A), (2R) 7004, 7006
    • Law of Evidence and the Criminal Procedure Act (A), (2R) 7025, 7031

COETZEE, H J (Middelburg):

  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R) 954
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Local Government, Housing and Works, 3128; Agriculture and Water Supply, 4636
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Trade and Industry, 3528
    • Pension Benefits for Councillors of Local Authorities, (2R) 6989

COETZER, P W (Springs):

  • Motions:
    • Calling of constitutional conference, 1107
    • Impoverishment of Whites, their ousting from employment opportunities, and integration in the labour sphere, 2279
  • Bills:
    • Post Office Appropriation, (C) 687
    • Sorghum Beer (A), (2R) 779
    • Mines and Works (A), (2R) 3454
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Mineral and Energy Affairs, 3651; State President, 3891; Bureau for Information, 3997; Commission for Administration; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 4417, 4487; (3R) 6217
    • Maintenance and Promotion of Competition (A), (2R) 6872

CRONJÉ, P C (Greytown):

  • Bills:
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R) 616; (C) 702; (3R) 738
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C) 1179, 1184
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1964; (C) Votes—Education and Training; Development Aid, 2520, 2561; Public Works and Land Affairs, 3360; Mineral and Energy Affairs, 3649
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Local Government, Housing and Works, 3152; Agriculture and Water Supply, 4572, 4762
    • Electricity, (2R) 3677
    • Co-operatives (A), (2R) 5989
    • Marketing (A), (C) 6052

CUNNINGHAM, J H (Stilfontein):

  • Motions:
    • Population development in the rural areas of SA, 500
    • Impoverishment of Whites, their ousting from employment opportunities, and integration in the labour sphere, 2266
  • Bills:
    • Workmen’s Compensation (A), (2R) 3263
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Manpower, 3276; Mineral and Energy Affairs, 3615; Home Affairs, 4749; National Health and Population Development, 5210
    • Unemployment Insurance (A), (2R) 3383
    • Mines and Works (A), (2R) 3415
    • Nuclear Energy (A), (2R) 3687
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Health Services, 4087
    • Gold Mines Assistance Act Repeal, (2R) 4192
    • Unemployment Insurance (2A), (2R) 7023

DALLING, D J (Sandton):

  • Motions:
    • Censure, 141
  • Bills:
    • Mediation in Certain Divorce Matters, (2R) 432
    • Insolvency (A), (2R) 576
    • Magistrates’ Courts (A), (2R) 467
    • Criminal Procedure (A), (2R) 553
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Justice, 2756; Commission for Administration; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 4494; Home Affairs, 4713; (3R) 6270
    • Intestate Succession, (2R) 6003
    • Children’s Status, (2R) 6023

DE BEER, L (Hillbrow):

  • Statements:
    • Personal Explanation, 3977
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Budgetary and Auxiliary Services; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 2068
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Police, 5125; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5606

DE BEER, S J (Geduld):

  • [Deputy Minister of Education]
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Education and Training; Development Aid, 2505

DE JAGER, C D (Bethal):

  • Reports of Committees:
    • Standing Rules and Orders and Schedules thereto, 6528, 6623, 6643
  • Bills:
    • Mediation in Certain Divorce Matters, (2R) 437
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R) 647; (C) 711
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1742; (C) Votes—Environment Affairs; Water Affairs, 2727; Justice, 2744; Mineral and Energy Affairs, 3635; Police, 5079
    • Constitutional Laws (A), (2R) 2249
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Local Government, Housing and Works, 3146; Agriculture and Water Supply, 4564
    • Credit Agreements (A), (2R) 4858
    • Deeds Registries (A), (2R) 4925
    • Agricultural Credit (House of Assembly) (A), (2R) 4944
    • Intestate Succession, (2R) 6000
    • Children’s Status, (2R) 6016, 6042, 6049
    • Judges’ Remuneration (2A), (2R) 6922
    • Supreme Court (A), (2R) 7005
    • Law of Evidence and the Criminal Procedure Act (A), (2R) 7028

DE KLERK, F W, DMS (Vereeniging):

  • [Minister of National Education, Chairman of the Ministers’ Council of the House of Assembly and Leader of the House]
  • Announcements:
    • Welcoming of Mr Speaker, 10
  • Reports of Committees:
    • Standing Rules and Orders and Schedule thereto, 6506-81, 6596-6647, 6649-51, 6655-7
    • Discussion of report of Committee for Constitutional Affairs of President’s Council (motion), 6707
  • Motions:
    • Election of Chairman of the House, 5
    • Adjournment and hours of sitting of House, 16, 2382, 5970, 5976, 6222, 6224, 6374, 6379, 7033, 7045, 7054
    • Condolence:
      • Wiley, the late Mr J W E, 27
      • Mulder, the late Dr the Hon C P, 7041
    • Resumption of proceedings on Bills, 32, 35
    • Appointment of Sel Com on breach of privilege, 247
    • Censure, 303
  • Statements:
    • Office and secretarial allowances and salary increases for members of Parliament, 1303
    • Report of President’s Council on Remuneration of Town Clerks Bill and Pension Benefits for Councillors of Local Authorities Bill, 7040
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (2R) 1429; (3R) 4786
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—National Education, 2383, 2440; Parliament, 4887; (3R) 6235
    • Natural Scientists’ (A), (2R) 4928, 4931
    • Constitution (2A), (motion for non-reference to SC), 6657, 6658

DE LA CRUZ, D T (Ottery):

  • [Leader of the Official Opposition in the House of Representatives until 25 May 1987]
  • Announcements:
    • Welcoming of Mr Speaker, 13

DELPORT, Dr J T (Sundays River):

  • Bills:
    • Criminal Procedure (A), (2R) 560
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—National Education, 2421; Justice, 2829; Police 5108; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5446
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Education and Culture, 3027; Agriculture and Water Supply, 4596
    • Children’s Status, (2R) 6038

DE PONTES, P (East London City):

  • Bills:
    • Criminal Procedure (A), (2R) 551
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Justice, 2763; Trade and Industry, 3512, 5964; State President, 3814
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Local Government, Housing and Works, 3138
    • Temporary Removal of Restrictions on Economic Activities (A), (2R) 4854

DERBY-LEWIS, Comdt C J:

  • Motions:
    • Population development in the rural areas of SA, 511
    • Impoverishment of Whites, their ousting from employment opportunities, and integration in the labour sphere, 2294
  • Bills:
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R) 631; (C) 719; (3R) 744
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1670; (C) Votes—Trade and Industry, 3503; Commission for Administration; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 4444; Home Affairs, 4723; Finance; Audit, 5269; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5761, 5773; Defence, 5868
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Local Government, Housing and Works, 3178
    • Universities (Education and Training) (A), (2R) 3240
    • Mines and Works (A), (2R) 3427
    • Liquor (A), (2R) 4033
    • Temporary Removal of Restrictions on Economic Activities (A), (2R) 4849
    • Merchandise Marks (A), (2R) 4867
    • Architects’ (A), (2R) 4996
    • Protection of Businesses (A), (2R) 6310
    • Maintenance and Promotion of Competition (A), (2R) 6868

DE VILLE, J R (Standerton):

  • Bills:
    • Magistrates’ Courts (A), (2R) 477, 533

DE VILLIERS, Dr D J (Piketberg):

  • [Minister of the Budget and Welfare]
  • Motions:
    • Censure, 98
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (2R) 1235, 1448; (C) Votes—Budgetary and Auxiliary Services; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 2106, 2117; Welfare, 2121, 2199; Agriculture and Water Supply, 4760; (3R) 4764, 4831

DILLEY, L H M (Simon’s Town):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1738
    • Environment Conservation (A), (2R) 4907

DU PLESSIS, B J (Florida):

  • [Minister of Finance]
  • Statements:
    • Levies for Regional Service Councils, 1520
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1521, 1969; (C) Votes—Finance, Audit 5276, 5332; Administration: House of Assembly, 5952; (3R) 6090, 6277

DU PLESSIS, PTC (Lydenburg):

  • [Minister of Manpower and of Public Works and Land Affairs]
  • Motions:
    • Censure, 53
    • Impoverishment of Whites, their ousting from employment opportunities, and integration in the labour sphere, 2311
  • Bills:
    • Workmen’s Compensation (A), (2R) 3260, 3267
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Manpower, 3336; Public Works and Land Affairs, 3371
    • Unemployment Insurance (A), (2R) 3380, 3385
    • Cape Town Foreshore (A), (2R) 3387, 3396
    • State Land Disposal (A), (2R) 4193, 4196
    • Town and Regional Planners (A), (2R) 4196, 4198
    • Architects’ (A), (2R) 4995, 4999
    • Quantity Surveyors’ (A), (2R) 4999, 5003
    • Professional Land Surveyors’ and Technical Surveyors’ (A), (2R) 5003, 5005
    • Valuers’ (A), (2R) 5006, 5008
    • Unemployment Insurance (2A), (2R) 7019, 7024

DURR, K D S (Maitland):

  • [Deputy Minister of Finance]
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1602; (C) Votes—Finance; Audit 5317
    • Sales Tax (A), (2R) 2213, 2224; (3R) 2226
    • Customs and Excise (A), (2R) 6056, 6081
    • Income Tax, (2R) 6408, 6432
    • Taxation Laws (A), (2R) 6439, 6452
    • Finance, (2R) 6457, 6471

EDWARDS, B V (Pietermaritzburg South):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1871; (C) Votes—Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5757
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Education and Culture, 2996; Local Government, Housing and Works, 3125; Health Services, 4115; (3R) 4817, 4819
    • Merchandise Marks (A), (2R) 4867
    • Income Tax, (2R) 6420
    • Taxation Laws (A), (2R) 6446

EGLIN, C W (Sea Point):

  • Reports of Committees:
    • Standing Rules and Orders and Schedule thereto, 6486-6542, 6587-6640, 6655
    • Discussion of report of Committee for Constitutional Affairs of President’s Council (motion), 6754
  • Motions:
    • Election of Chairman of the House, 6
    • Coldolence:
      • Wiley, the late Mr J W E, 30
      • Mulder, the late Dr the Hon C P, 7043
    • Censure, 67
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1776; (C) Votes—Justice, 2785; State President, 3710, 3783; Foreign Affairs, 5381; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5526; (3R) 6227
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Education and Culture, 2975; (3R) 4797
    • Local Councils (House of Assembly), (2R) 6947

ELLIS, M J (Durban North):

  • Motions:
    • Population development in the rural areas of SA, 518
  • Bills:
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R) 637
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Welfare, 2156; Education and Culture, 2899, 3041; Health Services, 4108; Agriculture and Water Supply, 4592
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—National Education, 2418, 2432; Education and Training; Development Aid, 2532; Agricultural Economics and Marketing, 4336; Commission for Administration; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 4435; National Health and Population Development, 5171
    • Education Laws (Education and Training) (A), (2R) 6797

FARRELL, P J (Bethlehem):

  • Motions:
    • Financial position of agriculture, 1501
  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R) 982; (C) 1192
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—State President, 3732; Transport, 4222; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5679
    • International Convention relating to Intervention on the High Seas in Cases of Oil Pollution Casualties, (2R) 4991

FICK, L H (Caledon):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (2R) 1315; (C) Votes—Budgetary and Auxiliary Services; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 2018; Agriculture and Water Supply, 4762, (3R) 4768
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1836, 1839; (C) Votes—Environment Affairs; Water Affairs, 2678; Agricultural Economics and Marketing, 4310; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5471
    • Abolition of the Fisheries Development Corporation of SA, Ltd, (2R) 2348
    • Marketing (A), (2R) 4953; (C) 6052
    • Land Affairs, (2R) 7012

FISMER, C L (Rissik):

  • Bills:
    • Magistrates’ Courts (A), (2R) 475
    • Usury (A), (2R) 4027
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (3R) 4826
    • Finance, (2R) 6462

FOURIE, A (Turffontein):

  • Motions:
    • Censure, 200
    • Consideration of first report of SSC on Foreign Affairs and Development Aid, 4134
  • Statements:
    • Unparliamentary language, 6771
  • Reports of Committees:
    • Discussion of report of Committee for Constitutional Affairs of President’s Council (motion), 6745
    • Second report of SSC on Foreign Affairs and Development Aid, 6840
  • Bills:
    • Constitutional Laws (A), (2R) 1054
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1785; (C) Votes—Education and Training; Development Aid, 2586, 2633; State President, 3720; Foreign Affairs, 5354; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5620; (3R) 6252

GASTROW, P H P (Durban Central):

  • Motions:
    • Censure, 108
    • Calling of constitutional conference, 1109
    • Impoverishment of Whites, their ousting from employment opportunities, and integration in the labour sphere, 2273
  • Reports of Committees:
    • Discussion of report of Committee for Constitutional Affairs of President’s Council (motion), 6723
  • Bills:
    • Defence (A), (2R) 1264
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1810; (C) Votes—Education and Training; Development Aid, 2547; Manpower, 3285; State President, 3854; Police 5105; Defence, 5832, 5937
    • Unemployment Insurance (A), (2R) 3384
    • Cape Town Foreshore (A), (2R) 3395
    • Mines and Works (A), (2R) 3441
    • Architects’ (A), (2R)4998
    • Professional Land Surveyors’ and Technical Surveyors’ (A), (2R) 5005
    • Valuers’ (A), (2R) 5008
    • SA Transport Services (A), (Motion for House to go into Committee), 6366

GELDENHUYS, Dr B L:

  • Motions:
    • Security Forces, 825
  • Bills:
    • Defence (A), (2R) 1262
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1866; (C) Votes—Mineral and Energy Affairs, 3632; State President, 3724; Police 5039; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5478; Defence, 5826; (3R) 6204
    • Mines and Works (A), (2R) 3433

GERBER, A (Brits):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (2R) 1362; (C) Votes—Welfare, 2149; Education and Culture, 2885; Agriculture and Water Supply, 4622
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—National Education, 2384; Commission for Administration; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 4482; National Health and Population Development, 5181; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5481
    • Natural Scientists’ (A), (2R) 4929
    • Commission for Fresh Produce Markets (A), (2R) 4969
    • Quantity Surveyors’ (A), (2R) 5002
    • Professional Land Surveyors’ and Technical Surveyors’ (A), (2R) 5005
    • Valuers’ (A), (2R) 5007
    • Education Laws (Education and Training) (A), (2R) 6774

GOLDEN, Dr S G A:

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—National Education, 2405; Education and Training; Development Aid, 2521; State President, 3850; Bureau for Information, 3982; Commission for Administration; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 4455; Foreign Affairs, 5378
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Agriculture and Water Supply, 4575

GRAAFF, D de V (Wynberg):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1895; (C) Votes—Finance; Audit, 5266; Foreign Affairs, 5406; (3R)6116
    • Sales Tax (A), (2R) 2221
    • Income Tax, (2R) 6425

GROBLER, A C A C (North Rand):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1833; (C) Votes—Education and Training; Development Aid, 2636; Police, 5083
    • Security Officers, (2R) 6395
    • Law of Evidence and the Criminal Procedure Act (A), (2R) 7028

GROBLER, P G W (Roodeplaat):

  • Bills:
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R) 656
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Justice, 2823; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5687

HARDINGHAM, R W (Mooi River):

  • Announcements:
    • Welcoming of Mr Speaker, 13
  • Reports of Committees:
    • Discussion of report of Committee for Constitutional Affairs of President’s Council (motion), 6687
  • Motions:
    • Condolence:
      • Wiley, the late Mr J WE, 30
      • Mulder, the late Dr the Hon C P, 7044
    • Censure, 158
    • Financial position of agriculture, 1495
    • Adjournment and hours of sitting of House, 5975, 6224
  • Bills:
    • Post Office Appropriation, (C) 697
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1820; (C) Votes—Education and Training; Development Aid, 2515, 2599; Environment Affairs; Water Affairs, 2680; State President, 3881; Agricultural Economics and Marketing, 4312; Foreign Affairs, 5388; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5754; (3R) 6234
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Welfare, 2143; Agriculture and Water Supply, 4540
    • Co-operatives (A), (2R) 5991

HARTZENBERG, Dr the Hon F (Lichtenburg):

  • Motions:
    • Censure, 347
    • Financial position of agriculture, 1468
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (2R) 1335; (C) Votes—Agriculture and Water Supply, 4521
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1614; (C) Votes—Education and Training; Development Aid, 2478, 2571; State President, 3772; Agricultural Economics and Marketing, 4289, 5958; Administration: House of Assembly, 5953; (3R) 6118
    • Universities (Education and Training) (A), (2R) 3222
    • Water (A), (2R) 4278
    • Co-operatives (A), (2R) 5983

HATTINGH, C P:

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1927; (C) Votes—Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5596
    • Agricultural Produce Agency Sales (A), (2R) 4961
    • Maintenance and Promotion of Competition (A), (2R) 6877

HEINE, W J (Umfolozi):

  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R) 932
    • Constitutional Laws (A), (2R) 2239
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Education and Training; Development Aid, 2596
    • Universities (Education and Training) (A), (2R) 3227

HENDRICKSE, Rev H J (Swartkops):

  • [Chairman of the Ministers’ Council of the House of Representatives; Resign as Member of the Cabinet wef 24 August 1987]
  • Announcements:
    • Welcoming of Mr Speaker, 11

HEUNIS, J C, DMS (Helderberg):

  • [Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning]
  • Reports of Committees:
    • Discussion of report of Committee for Constitutional Affairs of President’s Council (motion), 6667, 6757
  • Motions:
    • Censure, 359
    • Calling of constitutional conference, 1119
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5489, 5492, 5549, 5632, 5782
    • Remuneration of Town Clerks (A), (2R) 6978
    • Pension Benefits for Councillors of Local Authorities, (2R) 6986

HEYNS, J H (Vasco):

  • Bills:
    • Insolvency (A), (2R) 576
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1578; (C) Votes—Justice, 2789; State President, 3818; Finance; Audit, 5230, 5242; (3R) 6128

HUGO, P F (Beaufort West):

  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R) 972
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Local Government, Housing and Works, 3142
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Agricultural Economics and Marketing, 4378
    • Local Councils (House of Assembly), (2R) 6938

HULLEY, R R (Constantia):

  • Bills:
    • Defence (A), (2R) 1288
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1707; (C) Votes—Environment Affairs; Water Affairs, 2698; Trade and Industry, 3519, 3570; Mineral and Energy Affairs, 3611, 3660; State President, 3736; Finance; Audit, 5290; Foreign Affairs, 5402; Defence, 5889; (3R) 6276
    • Abolition of the Fisheries Development Corporation of SA, Ltd, (2R) 2336
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Local Government, Housing and Works, 3135
    • Mines and Works (A), (2R) 3421
    • Coal (A), (2R) 3484
    • Sugar (A), (2R) 3490
    • Eskom, (2R) 3671
    • Energy, (2R) 3681
    • Nuclear Energy (A), (2R) 3688
    • Protection of Businesses (A), (2R) 6312
    • Maintenance and Promotion of Competition (A), (2R) 6874
    • Local Councils (House of Assembly), (2R) 6940

HUNTER, Mrs J E L (Edenvale):

  • Bills:
    • Post Office Appropriation, (C) 694
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Welfare, 2171; Local Government, Housing and Works, 3182; Health Services, 4067
    • Environment Conservation (A), (2R) 4910
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Police, 5114; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5714

JACOBS, Prof S C (Losberg):

  • Statements:
    • Unparliamentary language, 6771
  • Reports of Committees:
    • Discussion of report of Committee for Constitutional Affairs of President’s Council (motion), 6740
  • Bills:
    • Magistrates’ Courts (A), (2R) 471
    • Criminal Procedure (A), (2R) 548
    • Sorghum Beer (A), (2R) 784
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R) 928
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (2R) 1392; (C) Votes—Budgetary and Auxiliary Services; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 2064; Education and Culture, 2907; Local Government, Housing and Works, 3115
    • Constitutional Laws (A), (2R) 2228, 2235
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—National Education, 2423, 2461; Justice, 2767; State President, 3863; Bureau for Information, 4007; Commission for Administration; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 4414, 4463; Home Affairs, 4705; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5555, 5616
    • Mines and Works (A), (2R) 3456
    • Prevention and Combating of Pollution of the Sea by Oil (A), (2R) 4974
    • International Convention relating to Intervention on the High Seas in Cases of Oil Pollution Casualties, (2R) 4990
    • Children’s Status, (2R) 6036

JOOSTE, J A (De Aar):

  • Bills:
    • Post Office Appropriation, (C) 716
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Agriculture and Water Supply, 4582
    • SA Transport Services (A), (2R) 6355

JORDAAN, A L (False Bay):

  • Bills:
    • Defence (A), (2R) 1272
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1814; (C) Votes—Police, 5057; Defence, 5835
    • Pension Benefits for Councillors of Local Authorities, (2R) 7000

KING, Dr T J (Kempton Park):

  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C) 1202
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—National Education, 2434; Education and Training; Development Aid, 2527; National Health and Population Development, 5168
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Health Services, 4101

KOORNHOF, N J J v R (Swellendam):

  • Bills:
    • Sorghum Beer (A), (2R) 793
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Agriculture and Water Supply, 4632
    • Supreme Court (A), (2R) 7005

KOTZÉ, G J (Malmesbury):

  • [Minister of Environment Affairs and of Water Affairs]
  • Bills:
    • Abolition of the Fisheries Development Corporation of SA, Ltd, (2R) 2328, 2356
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Environment Affairs; Water Affairs, 2660, 2706, 2737
    • Forest (A), (2R) 4843, 4846
    • Tweefontein Timber Company Ltd (A), (2R), 4896, 4898
    • National Parks (A), (2R) 4899, 4903
    • Environment Conservation (A), (2R) 4915
    • Forest (2A), (2R) 6372

KRIEL, H J (Parow):

  • Motions:
    • Censure, 289
    • Calling of constitutional conference, 1094
  • Reports of Committees:
    • Consideration of third report of SSC on Constitutional Development (motion), 6895
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Local Government, Housing and Works, 3084
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—State President, 3707; Bureau for Information, 4004; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5457, 5747
    • Pension Benefits for Councillors of Local Authorities, (2R) 6990

KRITZINGER, W T:

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Home Affairs, 4727

KRUGER, TAP (Koedoespoort):

  • Bills:
    • Sorghum Beer (A), (2R) 1004
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—National Education, 2438; Manpower, 3302
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Local Government, Housing and Works, 3171

LANDERS, L T (Mitchells Plain):

  • [Deputy Minister of Population Development]
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—National Health and Population Development, 5202

LANGLEY, T (Soutpansberg):

  • Reports of Committees:
    • Standing Rules and Orders and Schedule thereto, 6500, 6603-48
    • Second report of SSC on Foreign Affairs and Development Aid, 6840
    • Consideration of report of SSC on the Accounts of the SATS (motion), 6841
  • Motions:
    • Censure, 207
    • Financial position of agriculture, 1498
    • Consideration of first report of SSC on Foreign Affairs and Development Aid, 4131
  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R) 863; (C) 1133, 1204; (3R) 1215
    • Constitutional Laws (A), (2R) 1060
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Education and Training; Development Aid, 2610; State President, 3902; Bureau for Information, 3967; Transport, 4200; Parliament, 4884; Foreign Affairs, 5350, 5413; Defence, 5918
    • Water (A), (2R) 4400
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Agriculture and Water Supply, 4598, 4654
    • SA Transport Services, (A), (2R) 6330

LE GRANGE, L, DMS (Potchefstroom):

  • [Speaker of Parliament]
  • Announcements:
    • Welcoming of Mr Speaker, 13
    • Visit by parliamentary delegation to parliamentary institutions abroad, 2381
  • Question of Privilege, 244, 252
  • Statements:
    • Motion for adjournment of House under half-hour adjournment rule, 2465
    • Speaker’s ruling on wording of motion, 2468
    • Suspension of press gallery facilities, 4199, 4283, 4818
    • Unparliamentary language, 6771
  • Motions:
    • Adjournment and hours of sitting of House, 7036

LEMMER, J J (Benoni):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1748; (C) Votes—Manpower, 3308

LE ROUX, D E T (Uitenhage):

  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R) 906; (C) 1152
    • Abolition of the Fisheries Development Corporation of SA, Ltd, (2R) 2343
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Environment Affairs; Water Affairs, 2670; Justice, 2803; Trade and Industry, 3530; State President, 3788
    • Forest (A), (2R) 4844
    • Deeds Registries (A), (2R) 4925

LE ROUX, F J (Brakpan):

  • Reports of Committees:
    • Standing Rules and Orders and Schedule thereto, 6477-6581, 6615-28, 6653
  • Motions:
    • Resumption of proceedings on Bills, 34, 35
    • Security Forces, 804
    • Adjournment and hours of sitting of House, 5970, 6222, 7048
    • Condolence (The late Dr the Hon C P Mulder), 7042
  • Bills:
    • Mediation in Certain Divorce Matters, (2R) 424
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (2R) 1422
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Prisons, 2843; Manpower, 3269; Mineral and Energy Affairs, 3602; State President, 3919; Parliament, 4877; Police, 5110; Foreign Affairs, 5394; (3R) 6155
    • Cape Town Foreshore (A), (2R) 3388
    • Mines and Works (A), (2R) 3448
    • Sugar (A), (2R) 3488
    • Electricity, (2R) 3676
    • Nuclear Energy (A), (2R) 3686

LE ROUX, Z P (Pretoria West):

  • [Chairman of the House]
  • Motions:
    • Election of Chairman of the House, 4, 6
  • Statements:
    • Availability of Appropriation Bills at commencement of Second Reading debate, 1306

LIGTHELM, C J (Alberton):

  • Bills:
    • Post Office Appropriation, (C) 683; (3R) 745
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Manpower, 3291; Mineral and Energy Affairs, 3608
    • Valuers’ (A), (2R) 5007

LORIMER, R J (Bryanston):

  • Motions:
    • Financial position of agriculture, 1479
  • Reports of Committees:
    • Consideration of second report of SSC on Agriculture and Water Affairs, 5141
    • Consideration of fifth report of SSC on Agriculture and Water Affairs, 5141
  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R) 912; (C) 1156
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1686; (C) Votes—Education and Training; Development Aid, 2618; Environment Affairs; Water Affairs, 2674, 2719; Transport, 4226; Agricultural Economics and Marketing, 4305, 4369
    • Water (A), (2R) 4396
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Agriculture and Water Supply, 4532, 4604
    • Forest (A), (2R) 4845
    • National Parks (A), (2R) 4902
    • Environment Conservation (A), (2R) 4908
    • Land Titles Adjustment (A), (2R) 4920
    • Deeds Registries (A), (2R) 4927
    • Agricultural Credit (House of Assembly) (A), (2R) 4942; (C) 4951
    • Marketing (A), (2R) 4954
    • Agricultural Produce Agency Sales (A), (2R) 4964
    • Commission for Fresh Produce Markets (A), (2R) 4971
    • Quantity Surveyors’ (A), (2R) 5003
    • Land Affairs, (2R) 7016

LOUW, E v d M (Namakwaland):

  • [Minister of Transport Affairs]
  • Motions:
    • Censure, 113
  • Reports of Committees:
    • Consideration of report of SSC on the Accounts of the SATS (motion), 6840, 6857
  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R) 852, 986, 989; (C) 1132, 1168, 1208; (3R) 1215, 1253
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Transport, 4261
    • SA Transport Services (A), (2R) 6328, 6358; (Motion for House to go into Committee) 6366

LOUW, I (Newton Park):

  • Bills:
    • Post Office Appropriation, (C) 707
    • Cape Town Foreshore (A), (2R) 3391
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—State President, 3867; Defence, 5926
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (3R) 4829

LOUW, M H (Queenstown):

  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C) 1166

MALAN, Gen M A de M, OMSG (Modder fontein):

  • [Minister of Defence]
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Defence, 5892, 5907,5943

MALAN, W C (Randburg):

  • Motions:
    • Condolence:
      • Wiley, the late Mr J W E, 30
      • Mulder, the late Dr the Hon C P, 7044
    • Censure, 195
    • Calling of constitutional conference, 1114
    • Adjournment and hours of sitting of House, 5975
  • Reports of Committees:
    • Discussion of report of Committee for Constitutional Affairs of President’s Council (motion), 6705
  • Bills:
    • Sorghum Beer (A), (2R) 1007
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1875; (C) Votes—Justice, 2792; State President, 3802; Commission for Administration; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 4476; Police, 5128; Finance; Audit, 5309; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5627
    • Intestate Succession, (2R) 6007
    • Children’s Status, (2R) 6034

MALCOMESS, D J N (Port Elizabeth Central):

  • Question of Privilege, 245
  • Motions:
    • Appointment of Sel Com on breach of privilege, 245, 255
    • Adjournment and hours of sitting of House, 5973, 6223, 6377, 7051
    • Designation of member of President’s Council, 6387
  • Reports of Committees:
    • Standing Rules and Orders and Schedule thereto, 6493-6550, 6625-30, 6652
    • Consideration of report of SSC on the Accounts of the SATS (motion), 6847
  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R) 883; (C) 1141; (3R) 1224
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1857; (C) Votes—Transport, 4210, 4255, 4268; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5467; (3R) 6144
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Budgetary and Auxiliary Services and Improvement of Conditions of Service, 2069
    • Transport Advisory Council, (2R) 4169, (C) 4189
    • Prevention and Combating of Pollution of the Sea by Oil (A), (2R) 4981
    • International Convention relating to Intervention on the High Seas in Cases of Oil Pollution Casualties, (2R) 4992
    • SA Transport Services (A), (2R) 6342; (Motion for House to go into Committee) 6366
    • Constitution (2A), (motion of nonreference to SC), 6657

MALHERBE, G J (Wellington):

  • Reports of Committees:
    • Consideration of first report of SSC on Pensions, 6326
  • Motions:
    • Population development in the rural areas of SA, 490
    • Financial position of agriculture, 1476
  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C) 1145
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Budgetary and Auxiliary Services; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 2029; Agriculture and Water Supply, 4526
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Trade and Industry, 3585; National Health and Population Development, 5196
    • Liquor (A), (2R) 4031
    • Pensions (Supplementary), (2R) 6327

MARAIS, Dr G (Waterkloof):

  • [Deputy Minister of Finance]
  • Motions:
    • Censure, 326
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1664; (C) Votes—Finance; Audit, 5248; (3R) 6106
    • Usury (A), (2R) 4025, 4029

MARAIS, P G (Stellenbosch):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1881; (C) Votes—National Education, 2389; Education and Training; Development Aid, 2488; Trade and Industry, 3525; State President, 3915; Commission for Administration; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 4438; Finance; Audit, 5313; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5531
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Education and Culture, 3007
    • Rand Afrikaans University (Private A), (2R) 4040
    • Education Laws (Education and Training) (A), (2R) 6791

MARÉ, P L (Nelspruit):

  • Bills:
    • Sorghum Beer (A), (2R) 773
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Education and Training; Development Aid, 2517; Environment Affairs; Water Affairs, 2689; State President, 3740; Transport, 4259; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5722
    • Forest (A), (2R) 4846
    • Tweefontein Timber Company Ltd (A), (2R) 4897
    • Land Titles Adjustment (A), (2R) 4919
    • Forest (2A), (2R) 6371

MAREE, M D (Parys):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1701; (C) Votes—State President, 3898, 3901; Agricultural Economics and Marketing, 4359
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Local Government, Housing and Works, 3132

MAREE, J W (Klip River):

  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C) 1161
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (2R) 1357; (C) Votes—Budgetary and Auxiliary Services; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 2067, 2098; Local Government, Housing and Works, 3118
    • Local Councils (House of Assembly), (2R) 6944

MATTHEE, J C (Durban Point):

  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C) 1186
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Environment Affairs; Water Affairs, 2704
    • National Parks (A), (2R) 4900

MATTHEE, P A (Umbilo):

  • Bills:
    • Mediation in Certain Divorce Matters, (2R) 440
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Welfare, 2178
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Prisons, 2866; Trade and Industry, 3553; Police, 5048
    • Mental Health (A), (2R) 4871

MEIRING, J W H (Paarl):

  • [Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs]
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1639; (C) Votes—Foreign Affairs, 5345, 5415

MENTZ, J H W (Vryheid):

  • Motions:
    • Consideration of first report of SSC on Foreign Affairs and Development Aid, 4144
  • Bills:
    • Constitutional Laws (A), (2R) 1075, 2226
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1921; (C) Votes—Education and Training; Development Aid, 2576, 2625; State President, 3957; Agricultural Economics and Marketing, 4333; Police, 5042

MENTZ, M J (Ermelo):

  • Reports of Committees:
    • Standing Rules and Orders and Schedule thereto, 6614-40
    • Discussion of report of Committee for Constitutional Affairs of President’s Council (motion), 6677
  • Motions:
    • Security Forces, 838
    • Calling of constitutional conference, 1091, 1130
  • Bills:
    • Criminal Procedure (A), (2R) 558
    • Sorghum Beer (A), (2R) 775
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1841; (C) Votes—State President, 3795; Police, 5015; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5460, 5600, 5744; (3R) 6264
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Local Government, Housing and Works, 3088
    • Forest (A), (2R) 4843
    • Agricultural Produce Agency Sales (A), (2R) 4960
    • Children’s Status, (2R) 6026, 6046

MEYER, A T (Cradock):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1826; (C) Votes—Education and Training; Development Aid, 2606; Agricultural Economics and Marketing, 4381; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5585
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Education and Culture, 2954

MEYER, R P (Johannesburg West):

  • [Deputy Minister of Law and Order]
  • Motions:
    • Security Forces, 843
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Police, 5065

MEYER, W D (Humansdorp):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Local Government, Housing and Works, 3148; Agriculture and Water Supply, 4589
    • Commission for Fresh Produce Markets (A), (2R) 4971
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—National Health and Population Development, 5174

MULDER, Dr the Hon C P (Randfontein):

  • Motions:
    • Censure, 256
  • Bills:
    • Post Office Appropriation, (C) 690
    • Sorghum Beer (A), (2R) 756

MYBURGH, G B (Port Elizabeth North):

  • Bills:
    • Mediation in Certain Divorce Matters, (2R) 434
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Justice, 2810; Foreign Affairs, 5369; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5726
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Education and Culture, 2922
    • Credit Agreements (A), (2R) 4861
    • Children’s Status, (2R) 6028
    • Protection of Businesses (A), (2R) 6311
    • Judges’ Remuneration (2A), (2R) 6928
    • Pension Benefits for Councillors of Local Authorities, (2R) 6998

NEL, Dr P J C (Welkom):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Welfare, 2165; Local Government, Housing and Works, 3186; Health Services, 4070
    • Nursing (A), (2R) 4874
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—National Health and Population Development, 5191

NIEMANN, J J (Kimberley South):

  • Motions:
    • Election of Chairman of the House, 3
    • Designation of member of President’s Council, 6385

NOLTE, D G H (Delmas):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1795; (C) Votes—Education and Training; Development Aid, 2525; Agricultural Economics and Marketing, 4319
    • Sales Tax (A), (2R) 2222
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Education and Culture, 3000
    • Water (A), (2R) 4398

NOTHNAGEL, A E (Innesdal):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1768; (C) Votes—Public Works and Land Affairs, 3366; State President, 3806; Commission for Administration; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 4431; Home Affairs, 4691; Finance; Audit, 5329
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Welfare, 2160; (3R) 4803

ODENDAAL, Dr W A (Sasolburg):

  • Motions:
    • Censure, 214
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1750; (C) Votes—Education and Training; Development Aid, 2614; Manpower, 3319; State President, 3871; Home Affairs, 4710; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5464; (3R) 6193
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Agriculture and Water Supply, 4534

OLIVIER, Prof NJJ:

  • Motions:
    • Censure, 370
    • Calling of constitutional conference, 1077, 1129
  • Reports of Committees:
    • Consideration of third report of SSC on Constitutional Development (motion), 6897
  • Bills:
    • Sorghum Beer (A), (2R) 765
    • Constitutional Laws (A), (2R) 1043
    • Defence (A), (2R) 1275
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1658; (C) Votes—Manpower, 3326; State President, 3961; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5449, 5711; Defence, 5857
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Education and Culture, 2933
    • Housing (A), (2R) 6911
    • Fire Brigade Services, (2R) 6970
    • Remuneration of Town Clerks (A), (2R) 6983
    • Pension Benefits for Councillors of Local Authorities, (2R) 6993

OLIVIER, P J S (Fauresmith):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (2R) 1327; (C) Votes—Budgetary and Auxiliary Services; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 2090; Agriculture and Water Supply, 4658, 4761
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Agricultural Economics and Marketing, 4299; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5673
    • Water (A), (2R) 4392
    • Agricultural Credit (House of Assembly) (A), (2R) 4941

OOSTHUIZEN, G C (Pretoria Central):

  • Motions:
    • Security Forces, 820
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Education and Training; Development Aid, 2621; Prisons, 2862

PACHAI, S (Natal Midlands):

  • [Deputy Minister of Environment Affairs]
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Environment Affairs; Water Affairs, 2692
    • Environment Conservation (A), (2R) 4905
    • Forest (2A), (2R) 6367

PAULUS, P J (Carletonville):

  • Motions:
    • Impoverishment of Whites, their ousting from employment opportunities, and integration in the labour sphere, 2259
  • Bills:
    • Mediation in Certain Divorce Matters, (2R) 446
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C) 1163
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1915; (C) Votes—Manpower, 3311; Mineral and Energy Affairs, 3641; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5675; (3R) 6200
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Welfare, 2182; (3R) 4782
    • Workmen’s Compensation (A), (2R) 3262
    • Unemployment Insurance (A), (2R) 3382
    • Mines and Works (A), (2R) 3409
    • Coal (A), (2R) 3483
    • Eskom, (2R) 3670
    • Energy, (2R) 3680
    • Pension Laws (A), (2R) 6316
    • Unemployment Insurance (2A), (2R) 7021

PIENAAR, D S (Potgietersrus):

  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C) 1148
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—National Education, 2408; Environment Affairs; Water Affairs, 2666; Transport, 4236; Agricultural Economics and Marketing, 4357; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5576
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Education and Culture, 2981, 3022; Local Government, Housing and Works, 3188; Agriculture and Water Supply, 4644
    • Town and Regional Planners (A), (2R) 4198
    • Tweefontein Timber Company Ltd (A), (2R) 4897
    • National Parks (A), (2R) 4900
    • Environment Conservation (A), (2R) 4906
    • Land Titles Adjustment (A), (2R) 4919
    • SA Transport Services (A), (2R) 6351
    • Forest (2A), (2R) 6368
    • Land Affairs, (2R) 7010

POOVALINGAM, P T (Reservoir Hills):

  • Announcements:
    • Welcoming of Mr Speaker, 12

PRETORIUS, J F (Aliwal):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1695; (C) Votes—Environment Affairs; Water Affairs, 2722

PRETORIUS, P H (Maraisburg):

  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R) 958
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Welfare, 2131
    • Universities (Education and Training) (A), (2R) 3239
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Manpower, 3330; Police, 5087
    • Electricity, (2R) 3676

PRINSLOO, J J S (Roodepoort):

  • Motions:
    • Security Forces, 823
    • Calling of constitutional conference, 1103
  • Reports of Committees:
    • Discussion of report of Committee for Constitutional Affairs of President’s Council (motion), 6719
    • Consideration of third report of SSC on Constitutional Development (motion), 6892
  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C) 1189
    • Transport Advisory Council, (2R) 2368
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Budgetary and Auxiliary Services; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 2079; Education and Culture, 2926
    • Constitutional Laws (A), (2R) 2254
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Prisons, 2858; State President, 3887; Transport, 4220; Commission for Administration; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 4427; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5474, 5729
    • Rand Afrikaans University (Private A), (2R) 4038
    • Temporary Removal of Restrictions on Economic Activities (A), (2R) 4850
    • Credit Agreements (A), (2R) 4864
    • Housing (A), (2R) 6907
    • Fire Brigade Services, (2R) 6964
    • Remuneration of Town Clerks (A), (2R) 6981

RABIE, J (Worcester):

  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R) 949
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Welfare, 2186; Health Services, 4105; Agriculture and Water Supply, 4601
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Environment Affairs; Water Affairs, 2716; Transport, 4240

RADUE, R J (King William’s Town):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1726; (C) Votes—Education and Training; Development Aid, 2602; Commission for Administration; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 4460; Foreign Affairs, 5390
    • Local Councils (House of Assembly), (2R) 6953

RAJBANSI, A (Arena Park):

  • [Chairman of the Ministers’ Council of the House of Delegates and Member of the Cabinet]
  • Announcements:
    • Welcoming of Mr Speaker, 12

REDINGER, R E:

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1912; (C) Votes—Agricultural Economics and Marketing, 4371
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Agriculture and Water Supply, 4543
    • Agricultural Credit (House of Assembly) (A), (2R) 4943

RETIEF, J L (Graaff-Reinet):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1940
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Agriculture and Water Supply, 4650

SCHEEPERS, J H L (Vryburg):

  • Motions:
    • Security Forces, 835
  • Bills:
    • Magistrates’ Courts (A), (2R) 469
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Justice, 2781; Prisons, 2855; State President, 3798
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Agriculture and Water Supply, 4568; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5732

SCHLEBUSCH, the Hon A L, DMS:

  • [Minister in the State President’s Office entrusted with Administration and Broadcasting Services]
  • Announcements:
    • Increase in television licence fees, 2535
    • Salary Parity in the Public Service, 5700
  • Motions:
    • Censure, 341
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Commission for Administration; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 4409,4448, 4498
    • Temporary Removal of Restrictions on Economic Activities (A), (2R) 4848, 4856

SCHOEMAN, C B (Nigel):

  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R) 903
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Budgetary and Auxiliary Services; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 2031
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Environment Affairs; Water Affairs, 2712; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5703

SCHOEMAN, R S (Umhlanga):

  • Bills:
    • Sorghum Beer (A), (2R) 762
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (2R) 1417
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Environment Affairs; Water Affairs, 2701; Bureau for Information, 3990; Commission for Administration; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 4450; Finance; Audit, 5294; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5563, 5592
    • Sugar (A), (2R) 3489

SCHOEMAN, S J (Sunnyside):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1823; (C) Votes—National Education, 2425; Trade and Industry, 3546; State President, 3965; Bureau for Information, 3973; Commission for Administration; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 4424, 4468
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Education and Culture, 2912
    • Temporary Removal of Restrictions on Economic Activities (A), (2R) 4850

SCHOEMAN, Dr S J (Walmer):

  • Bills:
    • Post Office Appropriation, (C) 699
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Education and Training; Development Aid, 2535
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Education and Culture, 2978
    • Education Laws (Education and Culture) (A), (2R) 6801

SCHOEMAN, W J (Newcastle):

  • Motions:
    • Impoverishment of Whites, their ousting from employment opportunities, and integration in the labour sphere, 2300
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1654; (C) Votes—Manpower, 3299; State President, 3776; Finance; Audit, 5263; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5751; (3R) 6159
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Budgetary and Auxiliary Services; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 2035

SCHUTTE, D P A (Pietermaritzburg North):

  • Reports of Committees:
    • Discussion of report of Committee for Constitutional Affairs of President’s Council (motion), 6726
  • Bills:
    • Mediation in Certain Divorce Matters, (2R) 428
    • Magistrates’ Courts (A), (2R) 466
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1733; (C) Votes—Justice, 2748; Prisons, 2847; State President, 3884
    • Children’s Status, (2R) 6020
    • Judges’ Remuneration (2A), (2R) 6923

SCHWARZ, H H (Yeoville):

  • Reports of Committees:
    • Standing Rules and Orders and Schedule thereto, 6567-73, 6622-48, 6650-1
  • Motions:
    • Appointment of Sel Com on breach of privilege, 249, 254
    • Censure, 316
    • Appointment of Sel Com on alleged breach of privilege, 2005
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (2R) 1320; (C) Votes—Budgetary and Auxiliary Services; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 2022, 2054; (3R) 4772
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1590; (C) Votes—Justice, 2806; Trade and Industry, 3556, 5962; Mineral and Energy Affairs, 3622; State President, 3874; Police, 5060; Finance; Audit, 5237, 5325; Defence, 5928; (3R) 6100
    • Customs and Excise (A), (2R) 6072
    • Maintenance and Promotion of Competition (A), (2R) 6879

SMIT, F P (Algoa):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1899
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Local Government, Housing and Works, 3195

SMIT, H A (George):

  • Motions:
    • Security Forces, 840
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Welfare, 2192
    • Abolition of the Fisheries Development Corporation of SA, Ltd, (2R) 2350
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Environment Affairs; Water Affairs, 2695; Police, 5029; Defence, 5922
    • National Parks (A), (2R) 4904

SMITH, HJ(Smithfield):

  • Motions:
    • Population development in the rural areas of SA, 509
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Education and Training; Development Aid, 2540
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Education and Culture, 3019
    • Co-operatives (A), (2R) 5989

SNYMAN, A J J (Meyerton):

  • Bills:
    • Sorghum Beer (A), (2R) 796
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C) 1176
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Local Government, Housing and Works, 3165; Agriculture and Water Supply, 4626
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5707

SNYMAN, Dr W J (Pietersburg):

  • Reports of Committees:
    • Consideration of first report of SSC on Pensions, 6325
    • Standing Rules and Orders and Schedule thereto, 6490-6580, 6624
    • Discussion of report of Committee for Constitutional Affairs of President’s Council (motion), 6697
  • Motions:
    • Censure, 89
    • Population development in the rural areas of SA, 486
    • Adjournment and hours of sitting of House, 6375
  • Bills:
    • Constitutional Laws (A), (2R) 1030
    • Defence (A), (2R) 1294
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1945; (C) Votes—Education and Training; Development Aid, 2590; State President, 3728; Police, 5086; National Health and Population Development, 5150; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5535; Defence, 5845; (3R) 6175
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Budgetary and Auxiliary Services; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 2045; Welfare, 2127; Education and Culture, 3060; Local Government, Housing and Works, 3064; Health Services, 4049; (3R) 4808
    • Universities (Education and Training) (A), (2R) 3233, 3250
    • Mental Health (A), (2R) 4870
    • Nursing (A), (2R) 4874
    • Pensions (Supplementary), (2R) 6327
    • Local Councils (House of Assembly), (2R) 6935

SOAL, P G (Johannesburg North):

  • Motions:
    • Censure, 336
    • Consideration of first report of SSC on Foreign Affairs and Development Aid, 4142
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Education and Training; Development Aid, 2580; Bureau for Information, 3978, 3994; Transport, 4244; Commission for Administration, Improvement of Conditions of Service, 4458; Home Affairs, 4731; Police, 5118; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5736
    • Rand Afrikaans University (Private A), (2R) 4041
    • Income Tax, (2R) 6429
    • Finance, (2R) 6470

STEENKAMP, Dr P J (Umhlatuzana):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (2R) 1406; (C) Votes—Education and Culture, 3014
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—National Education, 2400; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5571

STEYN, D W (Wonderboom):

  • [Minister of Economic Affairs and Technology]
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Trade and Industry, 3494, 3587, 5966; Mineral and Energy Affairs, 3601, 3654
    • Eskom, (2R) 3668, 3671
    • Electricity, (2R) 3672, 3678
    • Energy, (2R) 3679, 3682
    • Nuclear Energy (A), (2R) 3682, 3690
    • Liquor (A), (2R) 4031, 4034
    • Gold Mines Assistance Act Repeal (2R), 4190
    • Maintenance and Promotion of Competition (A), (2R) 6866, 6886

STEYN, P T (Winburg):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1958; (C) Votes—Agricultural Economics and Marketing, 4365
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Education and Culture, 2930

STREICHER, DM(De Kuilen):

  • [Deputy Minister of Transport Affairs]
  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R) 893; (3R) 1229
    • Transport Advisory Council, (2R) 2365, 4183; (C) 4189
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Transport, 4230
    • Prevention and Combating of Pollution of the Sea by Oil (A), (2R) 4973, 4983
    • International Convention relating to Intervention on the High Seas in Cases of Oil Pollution Casualties, (2R) 4988, 4993

SUZMAN, Mrs H (Houghton):

  • Motions:
    • Censure, 223
    • Security Forces, 814
  • Reports of Committees:
    • Discussion of report of Committee for Constitutional Affairs of President’s Council (motion), 6702
  • Bills:
    • Post Office Appropriation, (C) 685
    • Constitutional Laws (A), (2R) 1073
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1901; (C) Votes—National Education, 2429; State President, 3811; Police, 5033; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5718; (3R) 6257
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Health Services, 4084

SWANEPOEL, Dr J J (Bloemfontein East):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (2R) 1359; (C) Votes—Education and Culture, 2985
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—National Education, 2429; Bureau for Information, 4011; Commission for Administration; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 4473
    • Natural Scientists’ (A), (2R) 4929

SWANEPOEL, K D (Gezina):

  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C) 1206
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1625; (C) Votes—State President, 3792; Home Affairs, 4721; Finance; Audit, 5245; (3R) 6096
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Budgetary and Auxiliary Services; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 2061; Education and Culture, 2904; (3R) 4812
    • Sales Tax (A), (2R) 2218
    • Customs and Excise (A), (2R) 6069

SWANEPOEL, the Hon P J (Kuruman):

  • Motions:
    • Impoverishment of Whites, their ousting from employment opportunities, and integration in the labour sphere, 2286
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (2R) 1390; (C) Votes—Budgetary and Auxiliary Services; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 2052, (3R) 4778
    • Constitutional Laws (A), (2R) 2246
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Manpower, 3322; State President, 3857; Finance; Audit, 5305; (3R) 6147
    • Mines and Works (A), (2R) 3444
    • Coal (A), (2R) 3484
    • Finance, (2R) 6465

SWART, R A F (Berea):

  • Reports of Committees:
    • Standing Rules and Orders and Schedule thereto, 6504-63, 6620
  • Motions:
    • Censure, 388
    • Calling of constitutional conference, 1097
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—State President, 3911; Foreign Affairs, 5359, 5409; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5567; (3R) 6167

TERBLANCHE, A J W P S (Heilbron):

  • Motions:
    • Financial position of agriculture, 1486
  • Bills:
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R) 659; (3R) 733
    • Sorghum Beer (A), (2R) 789
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Public Works and Land Affairs, 3355; Mineral and Energy Affairs, 3646; Agricultural Economics and Marketing, 4315; National Health and Population Development, 5165; Finance; Audit, 5272
    • Co-operatives (A), (2R) 5986
    • Customs and Excise (A), (2R) 6078
    • Taxation Laws (A), (2R) 6449

THOMPSON, A G (South Coast):

  • Motions:
    • Censure, 162
  • Bills:
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R) 641
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R) 921; (C) 1195
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Local Government, Housing and Works, 3108
    • Transport Advisory Council, (2R) 4174
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Transport, 4216; Development Planning, and Schedules’ 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5764
    • SA Transport Services (A), (2R) 6348

TREURNICHT, Dr the Hon A P, DMS (Waterberg):

  • [Leader of the Official Opposition]
  • Announcements:
    • Welcoming of Mr Speaker, 11
  • Motions:
    • Election of Chairman of the House, 5
    • Condolence (The late Mr J W E Wiley), 29
    • Censure, 36, 403
    • Adjournment and hours of sitting of House, 7034
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1756; (C) Votes—State President, 3693; National Health and Population Development, 5147; Foreign Affairs, 5373; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5435; (3R) 6242
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Education and Culture, 3059

UYS, C (Barberton):

  • Motions:
    • Censure, 297
    • Financial position of agriculture, 1506
  • Reports of Committees:
    • Consideration of second report of SSC on Agriculture and Water Affairs, 5141
    • Consideration of fifth report of SSC on Agriculture and Water Affairs, 5141
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (2R) 1309; (C) Votes—Budgetary and Auxiliary Services; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 2009; Agriculture and Water Supply, 4760; (3R) 4764
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1569; (C) Votes—Education and Training; Development Aid, 2629; State President, 3954; Agricultural Economics and Marketing, 4375; Finance; Audit, 5225, 5232; (3R) 6090
    • Sales Tax (A), (2R) 2216; (3R) 2226
    • Usury (A), (2R) 4027
    • Agricultural Credit (House of Assembly) (A), (2R) 4937
    • Marketing (A), (2R) 4952; (C) 6052
    • Customs and Excise (A), (2R) 6063
    • Income Tax, (2R) 6416
    • Taxation Laws (A), (2R) 6444
    • Finance, (2R) 6459

VAN BREDA, A (Tygervallei):

  • [Chief Whip of Parliament]
  • Reports of Committees:
    • Standing Rules and Orders and Schedule thereto, 6484-6571, 6585-6625, 6653
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Parliament, 4880

VAN DER MERWE, A S (Ladybrand):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1890

VAN DER MERWE, Dr C J (Helderkruin):

  • [Deputy Minister of Information and of Constitutional Planning]
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Bureau for Information, 3967, 4014; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5539

VAN DER MERWE, J H (Overvaal):

  • Reports of Committees:
    • Standing Rules and Orders and Schedule thereto, 6496-6572, 6591-6631
  • Motions:
    • Censure, 122
    • Impoverishment of Whites, their ousting from employment opportunities, and integration in the labour sphere, 2304
    • Consideration of first report of SSC on Foreign Affairs and Development Aid, 4147
  • Bills:
    • Magistrates’ Courts (A), (2R) 461
    • Insolvency (A), (2R) 571
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R) 602; (C) 679; (3R) 730
    • Defence (A), (2R) 1260
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1646; (C) Votes—National Education, 2455; Justice, 2813; State President, 3842; Bureau for Information 3986; Transport 4249; Home Affairs, 4684, 4739; Police, 5045; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5518; Defence, 5820, 5939
    • Abolition of the Fisheries Development Corporation of SA, Ltd, (2R) 2346
    • Extradition (A), (2R) 4163
    • Gold Mines Assistance Act Repeal, (2R) 4192
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (3R) 4823

VAN DER MERWE, S S (Green Point):

  • Reports of Committees:
    • Discussion of report of Committee for Constitutional Affairs of President’s Council (motion), 6682
  • Motions:
    • Censure, 172
    • Security Forces, 830
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Justice, 2827; Prisons, 2851; State President, 3927; Home Affairs, 4696, 4743; Police, 5050, 5099; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5624
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Local Government, Housing and Works, 3191
    • Security Officers, (2R) 6397

VAN DER WALT, A T (Bellville):

  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C) 1159
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Local Government Housing and Works, 3070, 3197
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5580

VAN DEVENTER, F J (Durbanville):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1712; (C) Votes—Trade and Industry, 3564, 3566; State President, 3860; Home Affairs, 4745; (3R) 6267

VAN DE VYVER, J H (Albany):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1817; (C) Votes—Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5740
    • Energy, (2R) 3681
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Agriculture and Water Supply, 4545

VAN ECK, J (Claremont):

  • Reports of Committees:
    • Discussion of report of Committee for Constitutional Affairs of President’s Council (motion), 6731
  • Bills:
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C) 1198
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1729; (C) Votes—Education and Training; Development Aid, 2538; Police, 5054; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5583; Defence, 5881
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Budgetary and Auxiliary Services; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 2101; Education and Culture, 3011; Local Government, Housing and Works, 3075, 3122, 3164
    • Education Laws (Education and Culture) (A), (2R) 6805

VAN GEND, D P de K:

  • Bills:
    • Insolvency (A), (2R) 573
    • Defence (A), (2R) 1290
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1722; (C) Votes—Defence, 5885
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Local Government, Housing and Works, 3112
    • Extradition (A), (2R) 4163
    • Intestate Succession, (2R) 6004

VAN GEND, J B de R (Groote Schuur):

  • Motions:
    • Impoverishment of Whites, their ousting from employment opportunities, and integration in the labour sphere, 2290
    • Designation of member of President’s Council, 6386
  • Bills:
    • Mediation in Certain Divorce Matters, (2R) 443
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Justice, 2820; Manpower, 3304; National Health and Population Development, 5194; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5684
    • Workmen’s Compensation (A), (2R) 3265
    • Extradition (A), (2R) 4165
    • State Land Disposal (A), (2R) 4195
    • Town and Regional Planners (A), (2R) 4198
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Agriculture and Water Supply, 4629
    • Judges’ Remuneration (2A), (2R) 6925
    • Supreme Court (A), (2R) 7006
    • Unemployment Insurance (2A), (2R) 7023
    • Law of Evidence and the Criminal Procedure Act (A), (2R) 7030

VAN HEERDEN, Dr F J (Bloemfontein North):

  • Bills:
    • Insolvency (A), (2R) 577
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C) 1188
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Justice, 2817; Manpower, 3333; Foreign Affairs, 5410; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5485; Defence, 5935
    • Eskom, (2R) 3670
    • Children’s Status, (2R) 6025

VAN NIEKERK, Dr A I (Prieska):

  • [Deputy Minister of Agriculture]
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (2R) 1437, 1445; (C) Votes—Agriculture and Water Supply, 4514, 4606, 4762
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Agricultural Economics and Marketing 4284, 4322
    • Agricultural Credit (House of Assembly) (A), (2R) 4932, 4946; (C) 4951
    • Agricultural Produce Agency Sales (A), (2R) 4958, 4964; (C) 4966
    • Commission for Fresh Produce Markets (A), (2R) 4967, 4971; (C) 4972

VAN NIEKERK, Dr W A (Ceres):

  • [Minister of National Health and Population Development and of Health Services]
  • Reports of Committees:
    • Consideration of first report of SSC on Pensions, 6325, 6326
  • Motions:
    • Population development in the rural areas of SA, 522
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (2R) 1344; (C) Votes-Health Services, 4043, 4118
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1935; (C) Votes—National Health and Population Development, 5142, 5213
    • Mental Health (A), (2R) 4869
    • Pension Laws (A), (2R) 6316, 6323
    • Pensions (Supplementary), (2R) 6327, 6328

VAN RENSBURG, Dr H M J (Mossel Bay):

  • [Chairman of Committees]
  • Motions:
    • Calling of constitutional conference, 1087
  • Reports of Committees:
    • Consideration of third report of SSC on Constitutional Development (motion), 6892, 6899
  • Bills:
    • Constitutional Laws (A), (2R) 1040
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Mineral and Energy Affairs, 3638; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5443, 5559
    • Housing (A), (2R) 6907
    • Remuneration of Town Clerks (A), (2R) 6981

VAN VUUREN, L M J (Hercules):

  • Bills:
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R) 651; (3R) 741
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1954; (C) Votes—Public Works and Land Affairs, 3364; Transport, 4253; Home Affairs, 4741; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5701
    • Quantity Surveyors’ (A), (2R) 5001

VAN VUUREN, S P (Ventersdorp):

  • Motions:
    • Impoverishment of Whites, their ousting from employment opportunities, and integration in the labour sphere, 2282
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1893; (C) Votes—Manpower, 3296
    • Abolition of the Fisheries Development Corporation of SA, Ltd, (2R) 2330
    • Mines and Works (A), (2R) 3436
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Health Services, 4092; Agriculture and Water Supply, 4579
    • Security Officers, (2R) 6393

VAN WYK, J A (Gordonia):

  • [Deputy Minister of Water Affairs and of Land Affairs and of Water Supply]
  • Reports of Committees:
    • Consideration of second report of SSC on Agriculture and Water Affairs, 5141
    • Consideration of fifth report of SSC on Agriculture and Water Affairs, 5141
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Environment Affairs; Water Affairs, 2732; Public Works and Land Affairs, 3358
    • Water (A), (2R) 4273, 4404
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Agriculture and Water Supply, 4547, 4640, 4662
    • Land Titles Adjustment (A), (2R) 4917, 4920
    • Deeds Registries (A), (2R) 4921, 4928
    • Land Affairs, (2R) 7008, 7017

VAN WYK, W J D (Witbank):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1698; (C) Votes—Public Works and Land Affairs, 3353; Trade and Industry, 3550; Mineral and Energy Affairs, 3619; Agricultural Economics and Marketing, 4362; National Health and Population Development, 5207; Finance; Audit, 5301, 5340
    • Appropriation (House Assembly), (C) Votes—Welfare, 2168; Local Government, Housing and Works, 3168; Health Services, 4073; Agriculture and Water Supply, 4586
    • Transport Advisory Council, (2R) 4180
    • State Land Disposal (A), (2R) 4194

VAN ZYL, J G (Brentwood):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—National Education, 2414; Education and Training; Development Aid, 2498; State President, 3923; Home Affairs, 4737
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Education and Culture, 2893
    • Universities (Education and Training) (A), (2R) 3231
    • Education Laws (Education and Training) (A), (2R) 6777

VELDMAN, Dr M H (Rustenburg):

  • [Deputy Minister of National Health and of Health Services]
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Health Services, 4077
    • Mental Health (A), (2R) 4872
    • Nursing (A), (2R) 4873, 4876
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—National Health and Population Development, 5184

VENTER, A A (Klerksdorp):

  • [Minister of Local Government, Housing and Works]
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (2R) 1397; (C) Votes—Local Government, Housing and Works, 3097, 3155, 3199
    • Local Councils (House of Assembly), (2R) 6933, 6955

VILJOEN, Dr G van N, DMS (Vanderbijl park):

  • [Minister of Education and Development Aid]
  • Motions:
    • Censure, 375
    • Consideration of first report of SSC on Foreign Affairs and Development Aid, 4131, 4153
  • Reports of Committees:
    • Second report of SSC on Foreign Affairs and Development Aid, 6840
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Education and Training; Development Aid, 2469, 2543, 2640
    • Universities (Education and Training) (A), (2R) 3220, 3243
    • Education Laws (Education and Training) (A), (2R) 6771, 6824

VILONEL, Dr J J (Langlaagte):

  • Motions:
    • Population development in the rural areas of SA, 478, 532
  • Bills:
    • Defence (A), (2R) 1281
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1677; (C) Votes—State President, 3779; Home Affairs, 4717; National Health and Population Development, 5157; Defence, 5849; (3R) 6214
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Welfare, 2152; Education and Culture, 3003; Health Services, 4056, 4111
    • Mines and Works (A), (2R) 3463
    • Pension Laws (A), (2R) 6317

VLOK, A J (Verwoerdburg):

  • [Minister of Law and Order]
  • Motions:
    • Censure, 231
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1691; (C) Votes—Police, 5009, 5092, 5132
    • Security Officers, (2R) 6388, 6401

WALSH, J J (Pinelands):

  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (2R) 1352; (C) Votes—Budgetary and Auxiliary Services; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 2038
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1630, 1635; (C) Votes—Trade and Industry, 3533, 3582; Commission for Administration; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 4442; Finance; Audit, 5259; (3R) 6210
    • Sales Tax (A), (2R) 2219
    • Usury (A), (2R) 4029
    • Liquor (A), (2R) 4034
    • Gold Mines Assistance Act Repeal, (2R) 4193
    • Credit Agreements (A), (2R) 4863
    • Merchandise Marks (A), (2R) 4868
    • Income Tax, (2R) 6421
    • Taxation Laws (A), (2R) 6447
    • Finance, (2R) 6463

WELGEMOED, Dr P J (Primrose):

  • Reports of Committees:
    • Consideration of report of SSC on the Accounts of the SATS (motion), 6844
  • Bills:
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R) 624
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R) 871; (3R) 1220
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (C) Votes—Budgetary and Auxiliary Services; Improvement of Conditions of Service, 2082
    • Transport Advisory Council, (2R) 2372, 4167
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Trade and Industry, 3537; State President, 3877; Transport, 4204; Defence, 5865; (3R) 6179
    • Rand Afrikaans University (Private A), (2R) 4036, 4041
    • Prevention and Combating of Pollution of the Sea by Oil (A), (2R) 4978
    • SA Transport Services (A), (2R) 6337

WENTZEL, J J G:

  • [Minister of Agriculture and of Agriculture and Water Supply]
  • Motions:
    • Financial position of agriculture, 1511
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation (House of Assembly), (2R) 1365; (C) Votes—Agriculture and Water Supply, 4552, 4665
    • Appropriation, (C) Votes—Agricultural Economics and Marketing, 4340, 4384, 5960; Administration: House of Assembly, 5957
    • Marketing (A), (2R) 4951, 4956; (C) 6051, 6052
    • Co-operatives (A), (2R) 5980, 5993

WESSELS, L (Krugersdorp):

  • Motions:
    • Security Forces, 799
  • Bills:
    • Appropriation, (2R) 1906; (C) Votes—State President, 3703; Police, 5022; Foreign Affairs, 5366; Development Planning, and Schedules 2 to 5—Provincial Accounts, 5523; Defence, 5842; (3R) 6262
    • Fire Brigade Services, (2R) 6968

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