House of Assembly: Vol13 - MONDAY 22 MAY 1989

MONDAY, 22 MAY 1989 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY QUESTIONS

†Indicates translated version.

For written reply:

General Affairs:

Internal Security Act: detainees since 12 February 1988 120. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) (a) What total number of persons had been detained in terms of the Internal Security Act, No 74 of 1982, (i) since 12 February 1988 as at the latest specified date for which information is available and (ii) in 1988 and (b) in terms of which section of the above-mentioned Act were they detained in each case;
  2. (2) whether any persons originally detained under one section of the above-mentioned Act were subsequently detained under another section of the Act; if so, (a) how many, and (b) under which section were they detained (i) originally and (ii) subsequently, in each case?

B273E

The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1)
    1. (a)
      1. (i) 323 persons up until 28 February 1989
      2. (ii) 315 persons
    2. (b) Section 29(1)
  2. (2) Yes
    1. (a) 9 persons
    2. (b)
      1. (i) Section 29(1)
      2. (ii) Section 31(1)
Aliens Act: persons arrested by SAP 292. Mr S S VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

(a) How many persons of all race groups were arrested by members of the South African Police in 1988 for contraventions in terms of the Aliens Act, No 1 of 1937, and (b) how many such persons were Blacks or is it estimated were Blacks?

B614E

The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

(a) and (b) 6 385 persons of all races.

Note:

The South African Police do not keep records of the race of persons charged with these offences, therefore the total number of persons that were arrested, is supplied. It is not possible to estimate how many of these persons were Blacks.

SAP: complaints and charges in 1988 301. Mr P C CRONJÉ

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether any complaints were received and charges were laid against members of the South African Police in 1988 in connection with their actions during unrest situations; if so, (a) when, (b) how many and (c) what were the circumstances surrounding these complaints and charges;
  2. (2) whether these complaints and charges have been investigated; if not, why not; if so, (a) when and (b) what were the findings in each case;
  3. (3) whether any action has been taken against members of the South African Police as a result; if not, why not; if so, (a) what action and (b) in respect of how many cases?

B641E

The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1) Yes.
    1. (a) On various dates during 1988.
    2. (b) and (c) A number of complaints and charges were received. However, separate records are not kept of those complaints and charges which are unrest-related. In addition, the complaints and charges are lodged at police stations country-wide.
      To gather and process this information country-wide is a time-consuming task. Members of the Force who would have carried out the task, already perform long hours of duty under difficult circumstances. They can only perform this task at the cost of other important police functions. Such a task can, in addition, not be accounted for economically. On these grounds the furnishing of the requested information can therefore not be justified.
  2. (2) and (3) Complaints and charges lodged against members of the South African Police are fully investigated. In the case of departmental investigations, the commanding officers of those members decide whether there is sufficient evidence available to institute departmental steps. In the case of criminal charges, the case dockets are referred to the various Attorneys-General for a decision.
    I wish to point out to the honourable member that the South African Police maintain strict discipline. Offences are not tolerated and suitable steps are taken without hesitation against members who commit departmental and/or criminal offences.
SAP: members suspended/dismissed 303. Mr P C CRONJÉ

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

Whether any members of the South African Police were (a) suspended and (b) dismissed in 1988 as a result of arrests, interrogations, detentions or other unrest-related activities; if so, how many in each case?

B643E

The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (a) 35 members
  2. (b) 25 members
Grey’s Hospital: non-Whites 346. Mr C J DERBY-LEWIS

asked the Minister of National Health and Population Development:

  1. (1) (a) How many non-Whites were admitted to Grey’s Hospital, Pietermaritzburg, in each of the latest specified three years for which figures are available, (b) what was the average length of their stay and (c) for what reasons were they admitted;
  2. (2) whether equivalent facilities were available to the non-Whites so admitted at hospitals allocated to their own race groups; if so, why were they not treated at these hospitals?

B703E

The MINISTER OF NATIONAL HEALTH AND POPULATION DEVELOPMENT:

(1) (a) and (b)

Patients

Average length of stay

1986/87

88

12,19 days

1987/88

645

5,11 days

1988/89

939

4,32 days

(c) The general admission policy of the Natal Provincial Administration is that emergency treatment is rendered at the nearest hospital irrespective of the race of the patient and, in regard to extremely expensive specialist treatment, such treatment is rendered at the hospital that has the facility, in this regard the race of the patient is not a consideration.

It is for this reason that there is an escalation in the number of non-white patients treated at Grey’s Hospital as this hospital has over recent years increased its capability of providing sophisticated expensive specialist treatment which is not readily available at the non-white hospitals from where the patients were referred;

(2) no.

Lung cancer 370. Mr M J ELLIS

asked the Minister of National Health and Population Development:

How many persons in each race group in each province died of lung cancer in 1988?

B772E

The MINISTER OF NATIONAL HEALTH AND POPULATION DEVELOPMENT:

Province

Population Group

Indian

Black

Col.

White

Total

CP

3

52

176

134

365

Natal

16

8

7

84

115

OFS

0

0

0

0

0

Transvaal

2

15

2

48

67

Total

21

75

185

266

547

Information in respect of the Self Governing National States is included.

SAP: colleges for training 380. Mrs H SUZMAN

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) (a) How many colleges for the training of (i) policemen and (ii) policewomen were there in the Republic, (b) where were they located in each case, and (c) how many (i) Whites, (ii) Coloureds, (iii) Asians and (iv) Blacks were on the teaching/instructor staff of each of these colleges, as at 31 December 1988 and the latest specified date for which figures are available, respectively;
  2. (2) how many (a) Whites, (b) Coloureds, (c) Asians and (d) Blacks were trained at each of these colleges in 1988?

B782E

The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) (i) and (ii) 4
    2. (b) Pretoria
      Bishop
      Lavis
      Wentworth
      Hammanskraal

(c)

31 December 1989

30 April 1989

(i) 193

193

(ii) 34

35

(iii) 13

14

(iv) 101

101

  1. (2)
    1. (a) 4 201 students
    2. (b) 905 students
    3. (c) 246 students
    4. (d) 2 522 students
Persons under 18: awaiting trial 383. Mr R A F SWART

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

How many persons under the age of 18 years were awaiting trial in police cells as at 31 December 1988?

B785E

The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

841 persons at 810 police stations countrywide.

Black spots 436. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Education and Development Aid:

  1. (1) (a) How many Black spots were removed in each (i) magisterial district and (ii) province in 1988, (b) what was the (i) name and (ii) population of each such Black spot and (c) where were the inhabitants of each such spot resettled;
  2. (2) what was the total (a) amount paid out in compensation for, and (b) cost of removing, each of these Black spots in that year?

B857E

The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND DEVELOPMENT AID:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) None.
    2. (b) and (c) Fall away.
  2. (2) Falls away.
Resettlement of persons 437. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Education and Development Aid:

Whether any officials attached to his Department helped to resettle any persons in 1988; if so, (a) on what dates, (b) from what specified areas were persons moved, (c) in what specified areas were they resettled, (d) why was it necessary to resettle them and (e) how many persons were resettled in each case?

B858E

The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND DEVELOPMENT AID:

Yes.

  1. (a) On a continuous basis.
  2. (b)
    1. (i) Zaaiplaats, District Groblersdal
    2. (ii) Cornfields, District Estcourt.
    3. (iii) Inanda Dam Basin, Ndwedwe, KwaZulu.
  3. (c)
    1. (i) Langkloof, District Witbank.
    2. (ii) Boschhoek/Craig, District Estcourt;
    3. (iii) Ntuzuma Town, Inanda and elsewhere in the tribal area, District Ndwedwe, and Waterfall/Langefontein, District Pinetown.
  4. (d)
    1. (i) On request of the Black Government concerned.
    2. (ii) On request of the residents concerned.
    3. (iii) As a result of the flooding of the land below the Inanda Dam.
  5. (e)
    1. (i) 43 families.
    2. (ii) 408 famihes
    3. (iii) 57 families, 219 families and 83 families.
Blacks moved from Black spots 438. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Education and Development Aid:

(a) How many Blacks were moved from Black spots to Black states in 1988 and (b) (i) from which Black spots, (ii) to which Black states and (iii) why were they moved in each case?

B859E

The MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND DEVELOPMENT AID:
  1. (a) None.
  2. (b) Falls away.
Illegal possession of fire-arms 444. Mr S S VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

(a) How many persons were arrested in each province of the Republic in 1988 for (i) illegal possession of fire-arms and (ii) being in possession of stolen fire-arms and (b) how many of the lawful owners of such fire-arms were traced in each category?

B866E

The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

(a)

(i)

(ii)

Cape Province

375

217

Transvaal

718

669

Natal

1 497

530

Orange Free State

75

51

(b)

(i)

(ii)

Cape Province

196

154

Transvaal

403

441

Natal

459

391

Orange Free State

31

50

Fire-arms licences 445. Mr S S VAN DER MERWE

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) (a) How many persons in the Republic were as at 31 December 1988 licensed to possess fire-arms and (b) what was the total number of licences issued as at that date;
  2. (2) how many applications for licences were (a) received and (b) granted in 1988;
  3. (3) how many fire-arms were reported lost or stolen in 1988;
  4. (4) whether, in 1988, any persons were declared unfit to possess fire-arms; if so, how many?

B867E

The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:
  1. (1)
    1. (a) 1 098 791
    2. (b) 2 756 635
  2. (2)
    1. (a) 130 856
    2. (b) 123 456
  3. (3) 7 524
  4. (4) Yes, 2 424
Military disability pensions 457. Mr M J ELLIS

asked the Minister of National Health and Population Development:

(a) How many persons are in receipt of military disability pensions and (b) what amount was paid out in such pensions in respect of the year ended 31 March 1988?

B892E

The MINISTER OF NATIONAL HEALTH AND POPULATION DEVELOPMENT:
  1. (a) 11 677
  2. (b) R43 390 593,02
Establishment of police force in specified areas 517. Mr P G SOAL

asked the Minister of Law and Order:

  1. (1) Whether, in terms of section 21 of the National States Constitution Act, No 21 of 1971, he has permitted the (a) establishment, (b) control, (c) organization and (d) administration of a police force in (i) Gazankulu, (ii) Lebowa, (iii) KaNgwane, (iv) KwaNdebele, (v) Qwaqwa and (vi) KwaZulu; if so, subject to what conditions in each case;
  2. (2) whether the (a) control, (b) organization and (c) administration of any personnel of the police force transferred to the government of each of the self-governing territories referred to above is subject to any conditions determined by him; if so, which such conditions has he determined?

B978E

The MINISTER OF LAW AND ORDER:

(1) and (2) No.

Robben Island: prisoners 521. Mr R A F SWART

asked the Minister of Justice:

How many prisoners were being held at the (a) maximum security and (b) medium security prison on Robben Island as at the latest specified date for which figures are available?

B982E

The MINISTER OF JUSTICE:

On 11 May 1989, the figures were as follows:

  1. (a) 325
  2. (b) 305
HOUSE OF DELEGATES QUESTIONS

†Indicates translated version.

For written reply:

General Affairs:

King Edward Hospital: Black/Indian infants died 17. Mr K CHETTY

asked the Minister of National Health and Population Development:

  1. (1) How many (a) Black and (b) Indian infants under the age of one month died at the King Edward Hospital during the latest specified period of five years for which figures are available;
  2. (2) whether he will make a statement on the matter?

D96E

The MINISTER OF NATIONAL HEALTH AND POPULATION DEVELOPMENT:

(1) (a) and (b)

Particulars of deaths at the hospital are not recorded according to race group;

Non-Whites

1984

598

1985

596

1986

546

1987/88

480

1988/89

460

(2) no.