House of Assembly: Vol108 - FRIDAY 9 SEPTEMBER 1983

FRIDAY, 9 SEPTEMBER 1983 Prayers—09h00.

QUESTIONS (see “QUESTIONS AND REPLIES”)

ADJOURNMENT OF HOUSE (Motion) *The LEADER OF THE HOUSE:

Mr. Speaker, I move—

That this House at its rising adjourn until Friday, 27 January 1984: provided that during such adjournment—
  1. (1) Mr. Speaker may accelerate or postpone the date for the resumption of business;
  2. (2) Select Committees may sit without the unanimous concurrence of all their members;
  3. (3) Mr. Speaker may appoint and discharge members of Select Committees;
  4. (4) Mr. Speaker may refer papers to Select Committees;
  5. (5) the reports, proceedings and evidence of Select Committees be printed on presentation to Mr. Speaker; and
  6. (6) Mr. Speaker may on the recommendation of Ministers and with the concurrence of the Leaders of the Opposition parties refer matters to Select Committees for inquiry and report, the Committees to have powers as determined by Mr. Speaker.

Agreed to.

REPUBLIC OF SOUTH AFRICA CONSTITUTION BILL (Third Reading resumed) *The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:

Mr. Speaker, when the House adjourned last evening, I was dealing with the implications of the proposed new constitution, as well as the choices that will have to be made in the referendum on 2 November. Perhaps more than anyone else, I realize how fundamentally important the question, as well as the reply, are going to be to us. I shall therefore discuss the implications of a yes or no reply, as I see it, at the conclusion of my speech.

First and foremost, however, I want to turn to the hon. the Leader of the Opposition, as well as to the hon. the leader of the CP, who is not here at present.

*Mr. H. D. K. VAN DER MERWE:

He will be here in a moment.

*The MINISTER:

I also want to turn to the hon. member for I Lichtenburg, who is not here either.

*Mr. H. D. K. VAN DER MERWE:

He has apologized for his absence.

*The MINISTER:

He did not notify me that he would not be here, even though he attacked me in his speech earlier.

Right at the outset, I want to say that there are certain standpoints we share with one another. The first is that a society itself determines what the political structures look like in which people have to exercise their rights. Society itself determines the constitution which provides the framework within which the lives of the people living in a certain country have to be arranged. I do not think the hon. the Leader of the Opposition would disagree with me on that score.

A second statement I want to make in this regard, is that in a society like ours, where there are intense and deep divisions, there will, in fact, be different opinions on how political participation by peoples and groups should be ensured. Thirdly, there is the fact that there are vast differences in South African society as regards culture, traditions, exposure to forms of government, as well as in respect of economic and social stratifications; all elements which are difficult to accommodate in a model which is to be a First World model. No one can underestimate the enormity of the task of establishing a constitution for South Africa in which individual and group rights can be accommodated. Consequently, when we conduct a debate, it would seem to me that it is reasonable to expect that the debate be conducted with due recognition of the society that has to be served by that constitutional dispensation. No one can dispute that.

Fourthly, I want to say today that it is not possible to establish a constitutional model for South Africa based on the homogeneous developing countries. That is simply not possible. The hon. the Leader of the Opposition and the hon. the leader of the CP would agree with me that change and adjustment in the political sphere are inevitable. Firstly, they are inevitable because justice demands it. They are also inevitable because people who are excluded from the political processes demand inclusion on the mere basis of that consideration alone. They are also inevitable if the rights of the White people in this country are to be retained. Change is also necessary to ensure the rights of the Whites, and no one can dispute that. We in this House do not have a choice concerning the fact of change. We do not have a choice as to whether or not that change comes about. The only choice we have, is: How is it to come about? The only choice we have is one concerning the method that should be pursued to accomplish it, and there is not one hon. member in this House who would disagree with that.

Basically, there are only two ways in which constitutional or political change can come about in this country. The first is the constitutional method and the other is the violent method. We should not argue about that. The responsibility to decide on that does not rest with the Government, in the final instance. It is not only the responsibility of political leaders. It is the responsibility of every person that has to determine the pace, the method and direction of change by his vote. That is why I am saying in all earnestness that the responsibility of the Whites in this country is a tremendous responsibility, since if the method of change is to be the constitutional method, if it is to proceed in an orderly way, they are the people in whose hands the political power mainly lies today, they are the people who have to make that decision themselves, since the country’s constitution cannot be changed if it is not changed here, in the first instance, and secondly, if it is not changed by the people who put this Government in power.

The constitution cannot be changed if people’s attitudes or hearts do not change, since the one major condition for change, whether it be constitutional or otherwise, is that there must be a change in the attitudes and the hearts of people. If we in this country are not capable of displaying a change of heart and attitude towards one another, our effort to shape a constitution will be senseless and futile. That is why I am saying that before we can succeed here, we must succeed in making the noble objectives stated in the preamble to the constitution, part of our everyday lives, and if we are unable to do so, we are engaged in a futile exercise, and the discussions we have had with one another will have been equally futile.

There are few examples, if any, where in comparable circumstances the process of which I am speaking and which has to be given substance in the constitution we are discussing, has had a constitutional outcome. There are few examples where the outcome has been peaceful. We must not forget that when we participate in politics, our own view of the potential winner is fundamental. What is alarming, is that there are many people and many groups who think there can only be a White or a non-White winner. Is that not true?

*The LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION:

That is true.

*The MINISTER:

The hon. the Leader of the Opposition agrees with me. There can be no question of one potential winner, for if that is our philosophy of life, there is going to be no winner; our legacy will be violence, decadence, anarchy and chaos. If we do not succeed in allowing everyone to share, if we do not succeed in allowing everyone to win, no one will be able to remain loyal and help us to defend ourselves.

We may disagree on the methods today, but it is my contention that unless we can convince one another that it is in the interests of all of us that we should all win, we will not succeed either. This is the spirit in which the Government has approached its task.

The hon. member for Sea Point made the statement—if I understood him correctly, and I do not want to quarrel with him now—that separate development is being entrenched in the constitution for the first time. Surely those are not the true facts. The hon. member must go and read section 46(c) of the Republic of South Africa Constitution Act, 1961. The constitution does not entrench separate development. The present constitution only entrenches White rights, in the political sense of the word. It entrenches White political rights, since it provides that only Whites can be elected as members of Parliament. Surely that is a violation of the truth.

Mr. C. W. EGLIN:

You did not listen to what I said.

*The MINISTER:

The hon. member did, in fact, say that. It is not true that we are entrenching separate development in the constitution for the first time. The existing constitution also excludes those people. I want to ask the hon. member—and I am doing so in a spirit of goodwill—which constitutional changes that have taken place since 1910 have he and his party, or his party’s predecessors, supported? Yesterday he spoke about a tradition. I am asking him which constitutional changes that have taken place since 1910 have he or the parties to which he has belonged, supported? [Interjections.] Do not make a noise now. I am speaking to the hon. member. He spoke in elevated terms of a tradition for which he supposedly stood and for which the parties of which he was a member were supposed to have stood.

Mr. B. R. BAMFORD:

Ask him whether he supported the rebellion.

*The MINISTER:

As far as I know, that took place before, and not after, 1910.

*Mr. B. R. BAMFORD:

I am speaking about 1914.

*The MINISTER:

Sorry, I misunderstood the hon. member.

Mr. Speaker, I am asking the hon. member which constitutional changes he supported, since I want to make certain observations, viz. that the only party to have effected constitutional changes in this country since 1910—of course, we could argue about the merits of those changes—was the NP. [Interjections.]

Mr. B. R. BAMFORD:

What about District Six?

*The MINISTER:

Sir, the hon. the Chief Whip of the official Opposition … No, wait. I shall rather not say that.

The fact is that constitutional change has, in fact, taken place. I want to make an admission today, since I do not intend running away from the facts. Part of that process was to remove the qualified franchise of the Coloureds as regards Parliament; part of that process was to terminate their representation here. It was a painful process; it was painful for the people who were affected by it, and equally painful for the people who carried it out. [Interjections.]

Mr. M. A. TARR:

Why did you do it then?

*The MINISTER:

I shall come to that if that hon. member would only control his impatience. In retrospect, we must admit that many fine things are born out of pain.

Dr. A. L. BORAINE:

Shame.

*The MINISTER:

The hon. member for Pinelands need not be so disparaging. He need not be so arrogant and haughty. That is the only language he knows. His arrogance is very much in evidence when he speaks to other people. Mr. Speaker, I was saying that life is born out of pain. If we had not travelled that painful path, we would not be able to ask our people on 2 November whether they would be prepared to allow Coloureds and Asians into our country’s Parliament. [Interjections.]

*Mr. SPEAKER:

Order!

*The MINISTER:

If we had not travelled that painful path … [Interjections.]

*Mr. SPEAKER:

Order! I want to point out to the hon. members that there is a tendency in this House for hon. members to continue making interjections immediately after the Chair has called for order. This is not the kind of discipline I expect from hon. members. The hon. the Minister may proceed.

*The MINISTER:

Mr. Speaker, as limited as hon. members may think it is, is it not true, nevertheless, that if we succeed. Coloureds and Asians will enter the highest authority in the country for the first time in history? I want to ask the hon. the Leader of the Opposition directly whether he thinks that that would have been possible under his leadership and that of his party. The answer is “no”, and I want to enter into debate with the hon. the Leader of the Opposition about that, if I may. He quoted what I had to say at Kamieskroon. He quoted me correctly. I am not apologizing for what I said. The hon. the Leader of the PFP and the hon. the leader of the CP are like Siamese twins with their backs joined. They tell me it is difficult to distinguish them and that in any event, most cases of separation are fatal. One strains in one direction and the other in another direction, and in both cases political development in the country stagnates. I shall deal with that with the hon. the Leader of the Opposition if he likes. I listened to him carefully.

*The LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION:

You have just said that change is inevitable.

*The MINISTER:

Of course.

*The LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION:

Then how can it stagnate?

*The MINISTER:

I say that the hon. the Leader of the Opposition causes it to stagnate. I have not finished speaking yet. Because the hon. the Leader of the Opposition is marking time, the people who are not participating are becoming frustrated, and those who seek other methods of being accommodated in the decision-making process are encouraged. The path he is travelling indisputably leads to violence. Whether he marks time or whether he implements his own proposals, that path will lead to the same end goal and the same result. If he gives me a chance, I shall discuss that with him.

I now turn to the criticism advanced by the hon. the Leader of the Opposition. He says, in the first instance, that we did not conduct a proper debate on the constitution in this House. He says that in fact we made a farce of the debate, because an opportunity for full discussion was not provided. Let us consider the validity or otherwise of this argument. Did the hon. the Leader of the Opposition intend changing his standpoint in respect of the clauses had we discussed all 103 of them?

*The LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION:

That has nothing to do with it.

*The MINISTER:

It has a great deal to do with it. Apart from the fact that his statement is untrue—and I shall prove it—his participation in the debate was an exercise in futility.

*The LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION:

Why, then, bring the Bill to this House at all?

*The MINISTER:

Let me reply to that. Before his party’s motions of instruction had been considered and before the Committee Stage began, the hon. the Leader of the Opposition launched a campaign in this country against the proposals before they even knew what the proposals were going to be after we had finished with them.

*The LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION:

The principles had been laid down. [Interjections.]

*The MINISTER:

No, wait.

*Mr. P. A. MYBURGH:

All the principles had already been laid down.

*The MINISTER:

That is an interesting remark by the hon. member. What are the facts? He says that the principles had already been laid down. But surely there were motions to be moved by his party, instructions to the Committee, that still had to be discussed.

*An HON. MEMBER:

What about it?

*The MINISTER:

We cannot have it both ways. The instructions were moved with the intention that they be considered by this House, and if they had been accepted by the House, amendments affecting the principles of the constitution would have had to be effected. However, before the instructions could be considered, a country-wide campaign was launched to reject the constitution. And that was done under the leadership of the hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

I want to mention a very interesting aspect in this regard. One must always bear the former profession of the hon. member for Pine-lands in mind.

Dr. A. L. BORAINE:

Yes, don’t forget it.

*The MINISTER:

One must always bear his former profession in mind.

Mr. B. R. BAMFORD:

What do you mean by that?

*The MINISTER:

That he was a clergyman. Perhaps the hon. member for Groote Schuur would have fared better if he, too, had been one. The hon. member for Pine-lands issued a statement to the effect that they had taken a absolutely unanimous decision rejecting the constitutional proposals. On 7 September the hon. the Leader of the Opposition warned his public representatives that they may not deviate from that standpoint. Why was that warning at all necessary? Surely the hon. the Leader of the Opposition is not a person who makes statements for no reason. Surely he was addressing that warning to someone, and he could only have been addressing it to people who were unwilling to follow his lead. After all, there could be no other explanation for that. On the one hand, we have to accept the pious assurance that there is no difference of opinion, but on the other a warning along the lines of “toe the line or else” is issued. Perhaps the hon. the Leader of the Opposition will tell us who the people are

*An HON. MEMBER:

And where they are.

*The MINISTER:

… and where the people are whom he was speaking to. [Interjections.]

The hon. member for Sandton made an extremely interesting statement. He said that 96 amendments could not be discussed. Let us consider the validity of this statement. Surely it is not true. For the sake of the record it is necessary to state the facts. Of those 96 amendments referred to by the hon. member, 92 were moved in the Select Committee. They were voted on in the Select Committee as well.

Mr. D. J. N. MALCOMESS:

Behind closed doors.

Dr. A. L. BORAINE:

They were not debated in the House.

*The MINISTER:

That is very interesting. That explains the standpoints and the division in the standpoints of the official Opposition. They are the people who advocate that under the new dispensation, too, opposition parties must be given representation on the Standing Committees. I agree with that. We accepted an amendment to that effect. What are they saying now? They are saying that there is no merit in discussions in Select Committee because they take place behind closed doors. That explains their standpoint in the Select Committee and here. They are not seeking consensus. They are speaking to the gallery. When the hon. member speaks he always looks to see whether he is being attended to. What is more, the hon. member for Sandton gives his speeches to the Press in advance and then accuses them of letting me see them—as if I needed to read his speeches!

Let me proceed. Of the 96 amendments, five had already been declared out of order in the Select Committee because they were in conflict with the principles of the Bill. Of the 96, 28 were consequential amendments that arose from others or which lapsed when amendments to clauses 1 to 34 were negatived. Those amendments were debated in the Select Committee and in the Committee of the Whole House. Of the 96, 12 overlapped and a further 6 were either taken over by the Government when they lapsed or adopted in an amended form. After all, it is factually untrue that they were not discussed. What the hon. member said about the amendments is untrue, and I repeat: What is the motive behind the public announcement of such an untruth?

The hon. the Leader of the Opposition said that we had made of farce of the debate. In all piety towards the Chairman of the Committee, I wish to say that the fact is that 536 speeches on this Bill were delivered in the First Reading, the Second Reading, the Committee Stage and the Third Reading, and that we debated the Bill for 140 hours; according to hon. members opposite, however, instead of debating it we made a farce of it. Is it not a fact that in the Committee Stage it was the responsibility of the Chair to call the CP to order 278 times and the PFP 71 times? Why? Because they attempted to misuse the Committee Stage not to discuss the clauses, but to discuss the principles. I therefore say to the hon. the Leader of the Opposition that his complaints are unfounded and that, in any event, he and his party participated in the Committee Stage of the Bill, not in order to discuss and try to improve the clauses, but to place on record objections in principle that they could use outside.

The hon. the Leader of the Opposition also states that Black people are being excluded. I say to him that that is not true. [Interjections.] The new constitution does not address the position of Black people. [Interjections.] There is no point in laughing, because the fact is that the present constitution does not address the position of Black people either, except to specify, in one section, how they are to be dealt with. That provision on Black people is contained in the new constitution. It is pointless carrying on like a hyaena about this. The fact is that this constitution does not address the political rights of Black peoples. Because this constitution does not do so, it is a flagrant untruth to contend that Black people are being excluded. [Interjections.] One can hear the hollowness in hon. members’ laughter. I want to ask the hon. the Leader of the Opposition: Since when does the present constitution spell out Black rights in detail? Surely he knows that the constitution of this country has never established a comprehensive framework within which all population groups in the country can exercise their political rights. Surely he knows that there is a variety of laws concerned with the political expression of Black peoples and other people.

*The PRIME MINISTER:

He tries to gloss over that.

*The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:

If the hon. the Leader of the Opposition says that we are not making full provision for the participation of Black people, there may be some truth in his argument, but any hon. member who argues that this Constitution Bill excludes Black people, is wrong, because the Bill does not address the issue. The hon. the Leader of the Opposition becomes angry when one points out the facts to him. I say to him and to his party that through their statements they are fanning the flames of revolution. They are fanning the flames of revolution by arousing a spirit of rejection among Black people and peoples, whereas it is not true.

Mr. B. R. BAMFORD:

Mr. Speaker, on a point of order: Is the hon. the Minister permitted to say that the Opposition fuels the fires of revolution in this country?

*The MINISTER:

Mr. Speaker, may I address you on this point? What I am saying, is that due to their statements, the fires are being fuelled.

*Mr. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister must withdraw the word “revolution”.

*The MINISTER:

I withdraw the word “revolution”, Sir, but say that in consequence of the hon. members’ actions, a violent reaction is elicited.

Dr. A. L. BORAINE:

Mr. Speaker, on a point of order: You asked the hon. the Minister to withdraw the word “revolution”. He did so and then went on to say that members in this House are responsible, by their actions and their words, for violence.

Mr. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister said that that was the result of what they do and say, as he sees it.

Dr. A. L. BORAINE:

The hon. the Minister said that the words and actions of members in this House would lead to violence in South Africa.

Mr. SPEAKER:

What the hon. the Minister is actually saying, is that violence can occur on account of it. He does not say that it will be the result.

Dr. A. L. BORAINE:

Mr. Speaker, I think he is coming very close to it, and I suggest you ask him to withdraw it.

*Mr. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister must choose his words more carefully.

*The MINISTER:

The accusation levelled at us by the hon. member for Pinelands was that our standpoint and policy lead to violence. He says that the policy of apartheid leads to violence. Surely I cannot enter into a debate with the hon. member if he arrogates rights to himself that I am not given. What I am saying is that the results of what the hon. members want to do—and this also applies to their saying that people should vote “no”—must of necessity lead to frustration amongst the non-participants, and this must lead to violence too. There is no other option.

*The LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION:

That is surely the same thing.

Mr. H. E. J. VAN RENSBURG:

This constitution is designed to lead to violence in South Africa.

*The MINISTER:

Can we not simply record the facts as far as the Black people are concerned? I want to ask the hon. member: Is it not a fact that under this Government more Black people are to participate in the decision-making process than under any other Government? [Interjections.] Mr. Speaker, I am in all seriousness asking for your protection.

*Mr. SPEAKER:

Order!

*The MINISTER:

The hon. the Leader of the Opposition and his party must not pay lip-service to Black rights. Every piece of legislation that attempts to give Black people some participation in politics is opposed by them.

Mrs. H. SUZMAN:

We want them on the common roll.

*The MINISTER:

If we had listened to them, there would still not have been one single Black state. There would still not have been one single Black Legislative Assembly. Moreover the White people would have dominated Black peoples completely.

*Dr. A. L. BORAINE:

Tell us a little about Ciskei.

*The MINISTER:

The hon. member for Pinelands says I must tell him about Ciskei. Why does he not ask me to tell him about Lesotho? Why does he not ask me to tell him about Swaziland? And what about the countries that were granted independence by Great Britain? I can tell him about an Africa that is in the process of dying. I can tell him what those people did and what that hon. member wants to make of Africa. We are not prepared to do so. Anyone who says that the Black people have been excluded from the country’s process of constitutional development, is telling a lie, and whether he tells that lie here or outside this House, it is still a lie. Secondly, people who claim that the Black people are not participating in the process of negotiation are also telling a lie. The constitutional development of the Black peoples is one of the top priorities in the country. That has always been the case. Historically this is explained by the fact that, as the hon. the Prime Minister said earlier, Black peoples outside South Africa’s borders, and also inside its borders, have developed further, constitutionally and politically, than the Coloureds and the Asians. We are accused, however, of not regarding it as a priority and are not giving any attention to it. No one need convince me, or the Government, of the urgency of the position of the Black peoples in the country. No one on this side of the House has alleged that the constitutional and political avenues for the Black peoples have been completely explored. Hon. members opposite took part in a part of the process to make it possible for people outside the national States, outside the independent States, to participate in a specific sphere, not because these are the final rights to be granted, but because they are links in the chain of developing rights. So why must we fight one another politically, making the Coloureds and the Black people the victims?

*Dr. A. L. BORAINE:

What do the Black people themselves say?

*The MINISTER:

No one disputes the fact that the linking-up mechanisms between citizens of independent States, those living outside those States, and their Governments need urgent attention. No one disputes the fact that mechanisms for liaison must be established between us at local government level. No one disputes that fact. We do not. On the contrary, we are working on it every day.

The hon. the Leader of the Opposition who, together with certain others, are so vociferous about the exclusion of Black people from the process of negotiation and the decision-making process, must openly state his position on this. The Government and the CP agreed that working out a constitution for the country requires the co-operation of all the groups that are affected. Neither the CP, nor the official Opposition, can get away from that; we cannot either. We, however, have gone even further. We have proposed methods in terms of which that process of negotiation can be formalized. What did the hon. the Leader of the Opposition do on the other hand? Because he did not like the institution, he devoted himself to destroying the process. Because he did not like the method, he helped to destroy the substance.

*Mr. C. W. EGLIN:

That is untrue.

*The MINISTER:

It is true. I do not want to refer to what the hon. the Prime Minister said. I want to refer to another aspect of the same matter. The hon. the Leader of the Opposition surely knows that we had in-depth negotiations about these matters. Surely he knows that. Not only did he forbid his people to participate in the activities of the President’s Council, however—he did, of course, have every right to do so—but after he had finished with that, no Black leader could go to the Black council either.

*The MINISTER OF CO-OPERATION AND DEVELOPMENT:

He kept them away.

*The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:

Yes, he kept them away. [Interjections.] The hon. the Leader of the Opposition must not talk to me about negotiation. He must not come and tell me that we must enter into a debate with the Black peoples and with Black people. When the instruments are created, because he does not like the instruments, the principle of negotiation must be rejected because it does not tie in with his methods.

*Mr. S. S. VAN DER MERWE:

And when you do not like a recommendation, you give the man who made the recommendation an ambassadorial post. [Interjections.]

*The MINISTER:

Mr. Speaker, the hon. the Leader of the Opposition and his party must not speak about Black rights here. Let me advise him to make some inquiries amongst the Coloureds and the Asians to find out what they think about PFP institutions—if it should ever come into power—for dealing with their rights.

*Mr. H. E. J. VAN RENSBURG:

I challenge you people to ask them. You are too scared to do so. [Interjections.]

*Mr. A. VAN BREDA:

Mr. Speaker, on a point of order: May the hon. member for Bryanston say we are too scared?

*Mr. SPEAKER:

Order! The hon. member for Bryanston must withdraw that remark.

*Mr. H. E. J. VAN RENSBURG:

Mr. Speaker, I withdraw it. I do wish, however, that I had a better way of describing it. [Interjections.]

*The MINISTER:

Mr. Speaker, I shall tell the hon. the Leader of the Opposition what we are not planning for. I shall tell him so that he can know once and for all. We are not planning for White surrender. However before I am again accused of being a racist, let me repeat what I said previously. In comparable countries in Africa the position of the economy, of law and order and of stability are chiefly dependent on the security of the White man. Not for the sake of the White man alone, but also for the sake of the Coloureds, Asians and Black peoples, this is and must be so. I should like to put a question today. I want to do so in all seriousness. If there were no Whites in South Africa, in the absence of White capital, White expertise and exposure to White democratic forms of government, what would the position here have looked like? What would this country have looked like? What would the position of the Black peoples in this country have been?

*The DEPUTY MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT AFFAIRS AND FISHERIES:

Nothing but faction fights.

*The MINISTER:

What would things have look like then? When are we going to be prepared to stand up and acknowledge that Whites have made contributions to the development of this country?

*Mr. H. E. J. VAN RENSBURG:

Who is denying it?

*The MINISTER:

I am not prepared to argue with that hon. member. [Interjections.] We are not planning to have the Whites abdicate. Let me say today that the Black people and the Coloureds do not want that either. The only people planning the destruction of White rights are adherents of the PFP, and I shall prove that to them. [Interjections.] I do not apologize for saying that together with my hon. colleagues, and under the leadership of the hon. the Prime Minister, I, too, am devoting myself to the future of the Black peoples and Black people wherever they may be living. One thing is true, however, and that is that we have no intention of reaching a compromise with the PFP on this. We have no intention of doing so. Do you know why, Sir? It is for the sake of the protection of the Black peoples and the Black people and for the sake of the protection of the Coloureds and Asians. Let me put the following question to the hon. the Leader of the Opposition: Are the Black peoples in Zimbabwe better off now than they were previously? Are the people of Angola better off now than they were previously? Are the people of Mozambique better off now than they were previously? We are not prepared to reach a compromise with them or without anyone else if that is what the compromise is going to result in. [Interjections.] That certainly is interesting. This misjudged country, this country of oppression, must guard its borders at every point to keep people of colour out. When are we going to stop besmirching our own fatherland?

†The hon. the Leader of the Opposition and his party must not address us in regard to negotiation. Their attitude in this regard is, to put it mildly, contemptible. [Interjections.] I say this because every effort that we have made and are making to formalize institutions for consultation have been and are being decried by them.

*It is no use their trying to get away from the truth now. The fact remains that the hon. the Leader of the Opposition and the hon. members of his party, in discussions with Black people, are continually questioning the bona fides of the Government. [Interjections.] They are continually sowing suspicion in regard to the steps we want to take.

Mrs. H. SUZMAN:

You took the Coloureds off the roll, not we.

*The MINISTER:

Sir, I have indicated that this was what happened in the case of the Black Council. It happened in that case. After they had performed, they made it absolutely impossible for Black leaders to take part in such a council.

*Prof. N. J. J. OLIVIER:

They are doing it for themselves.

*The MINISTER:

Sir, the hon. member Prof. Olivier has made a very interesting interjection. If they are doing it for themselves, why do those hon. members speak for them here?

*Mr. H. E. J. VAN RENSBURG:

Because they are not represented here. [Interjections.]

The MINISTER:

They would have allowed their own councils to develop further than the hon. member for Bryanston could have done. [Interjections.] The point is, they are Prime Ministers, they are Chief Ministers and they are Ministers, and that is something that hon. member will never become.

The MINISTER OF CO-OPERATION AND DEVELOPMENT:

They do not trust him.

The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:

That is correct, Sir. They do not trust him, and for good and sound reasons.

*I come now to the hon. member for Pine-lands, because the hon. member for Pine-lands made some very interesting statements. The hon. the Leader of the Opposition said it was also his standpoint that minorities should be protected but he does not want to identify them.

The LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION:

I did not say that.

The MINISTER:

Then what does the hon. the Leader of the Opposition want to do?

*The LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION:

They themselves identify themselves.

*The MINISTER:

They themselves identify themselves.

*The LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION:

Of course!

*The MINISTER:

That is very interesting. [Interjections.] The legislation confirms the de facto position. I did not argue about that.

I do not want to quarrel with him about that.

*HON. MEMBERS:

You cannot.

*The MINISTER:

Of course I can. But what did the hon. member for Pinelands say? He said a very interesting thing. He said: They believe in a non-racial geographic federation.

†Let us analyse that statement because it has very serious implications for the hon. the Leader of the Opposition. The first observation on and implication of that is that if it is to be completely non-racial, it will have to be equal.

Dr. A. L. BORAINE:

Yes. [Interjections.]

*The MINISTER:

No, that is a malicious deduction. I do not say that and it is not true either. I cannot put it any stronger than that because you, Sir, will not allow me to do so.

I want to ask him in which state of the Federation the Whites will be in the majority. Nowhere! he confirmed that in that State which has to be a component of the federation, there should be no differentiation between people. The implication of that is surely not the protection of minority rights; it must be the destruction of minority rights. When the hon. member for Pinelands describes the policy of the PFP in that way, what does he have? He has the destruction of minority rights in every State.

*Mr. S. S. VAN DER MERWE:

Your argument is that if one does not have supremacy one does not have rights.

*The MINISTER:

No, all I am arguing now—I am prepared to argue the supremacy theory with the hon. member—is that the hon. the Leader of the Opposition need not hold a convention; his method destroys minority rights. His method will result in Black majority Government in every State and eventually in the federal State as well.

*Mr. P. C. CRONJÉ:

What about the White minority and the Coloured and Indian groups?

*Mr. H. E. J. VAN RENSBURG:

Do the Jews in South Africa have minority rights?

*The MINISTER:

The question of the hon. member for Bryanston is very interesting. He asked me whether the minority rights of the Jews in South Africa were protected. The rights of the Jews are protected along with those of the White group but what is he going to do about the rights of the Jews in his federation?

*Mr. P. C. CRONJÉ:

What about the Black Jews? [Interjections.]

*Mr. SPEAKER:

Order!

*The MINISTER:

I just wish that hon. member would keep quiet.

*Mr. H. E. J. VAN RENSBURG:

Mr. Speaker, on a point of order: The hon. the Minister of Foreign Affairs and Information has a poster there on which the word “anarchists” appears and from time to time he displays that poster. It is a bad habit he learned at the UN. I should like your ruling in that regard.

*Mr. SPEAKER:

Order! As far as I am concerned, it cannot refer to any hon. member of this House. The hon. the Minister may proceed. [Interjections.]

*The MINISTER:

Sir, you will allow me to say that I can understand the sensitivity of certain hon. members as far as that poster is concerned.

I want to say in all earnestness—the hon. member for Pinelands must deny this if it is not true—that the standpoint the hon. member adopted yesterday does not protect minority rights, neither those of the Whites, the Coloureds and Asians nor even those of the Blacks. He goes further than that.

†Strangely enough he came to Zimbabwe. It was the first time that I heard from that particular quarter that we are being blamed for doing what Smith did in Rhodesia. He said that Smith too said: “We are here to stay”. Is it not a fact that Smith did what the PFP wants to do in this country? [Interjections.]

*Can hon. members still remember what the hon. member for Pietermaritzburg North did last year? He held up Zimbabwe as the example we should follow in South Africa. It appears in his Hansard. [Interjections.] They still had high hopes for Zimbabwe at the time. After all, Smith did not do what we are now doing by establishing separate institutions for population groups.

Dr. A. L. BORAINE:

Why use his …

*The MINISTER:

I mention this in consequence of the remarks of the hon. member for Pinelands. Smith—and he had every right to do so—tried to include all the people in one and the same institution with the resultant conflict and the resultant eventual destruction of those people who were keeping Rhodesia going.

*The DEPUTY MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND INFORMATION:

Including the Blacks!

*The MINISTER:

Yes, including the Blacks. Then Lancaster had to save them. Mr. Smith did not get what he wanted then—a “moderate Black Government”. He got an “immoderate Black Government” on its way to a one-party State, on its way to a dictatorship. The hon. member for Pinelands cannot escape the fact that his formula can lead to nothing but a repetition of Africa and the consequences of Lancaster House. [Interjections.]

Now the hon. the Leader of the Opposition comes along and he says: “Sir, we say ‘no’ because it entrenches apartheid”. I want to ask him whether the protection he wants to give minority rights is going to be on a group basis. If he recognizes the existence of minority groups and he wants to protect their rights, he has to protect them as a group. After all, there is no other way. There, as soon as he does it on a group basis, he is doing it on the basis that people have to be identified.

*The LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION:

That is the point …

The MINISTER:

Whether or not it will be the same thing, is not the point now.

*The LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION:

That is the point.

*The MINISTER:

No, it is not the point. The point is that the hon. the Leader of the Opposition will have to give them their group representation … [Interjections.] … and he cannot do so without denying the physical existence of the group. If he does so, he is making separate provision for minority groups in his dispensation. There is no other logical deduction one can make. I want therefore to tell him that his methods are in conflict with his humanistic approach. What is the problem with the hon. member? Sir, do you know what is happening to the hon. the Leader of the Opposition? This idealistic humanist is in conflict with the reality of South Africa. In the process he is destroying it, he is destroying the people. I want to repeat and emphasize today—noone knows this better than I do—that the hon. the Leader of the official Opposition does not want to protect minority rights but that he wants other rights destroyed.

However, let me state the standpoint of the Government. The Government differentiates among people not to discriminate against them. Discrimination existed long before this Government came into power. The Government has tried, step by step, to ameliorate the consequences of discrimination and, if possible, to remove them. I want to ask him: Is it not as a result of the steps taken in the economic sphere, the instruments for assistance that have been created, that the participation of Coloureds in the business sphere in the country has increased? Is it not a fact that the Indians themselves asked for an Indian Development Corporation? Is it not a fact that on the basis of differentiation among groups it was possible to make the fundamental inequality which existed in society, less so? Surely that is true. The hon. the Leader of the official Opposition knows that had it not been for the efforts of this Government in the field of the identification of groups it would not have been possible to establish development corporations for the Black peoples. Sir, I am sick and tired of the sanctimonious speeches we hear from the hon. the Leader of the Opposition and his party. Everything they do is in conflict with what they say. The Government has undertaken to try to eliminate the disadvantages of groups, and that disadvantage did not start in 1948. It is, after all, the historic heritage of successive Governments, and not all of them were National Governments. The hon. member also knows how limited the means of the country are. No-one who values the truth can deny the fact that as a result of the concept of separate development, development possibilities were enhanced and became practicable. I admit—I have done so before—that it is not possible to bring about reform in one sphere today without its having a ripple effect on other spheres.

It is not possible to maintain this country without change. Even the opponents of change are merely choosing another means of change.

†The hon. the Leader of the Opposition talked about one-party domination, and also referred very glibly to the so-called dictatorial powers of the State President.

*Let us consider the position of the State President. There is virtually nothing the State President can do in the new dispensation which a Prime Minister worth his salt cannot do now. In the second place, there are more cross checks on the President than on the present Prime Minister. The position of the present Prime Minister is dependent on one party only. He is dependent on one House, the House of Assembly, for his legislation. The Prime Minister is dependent on the co-operation of one Cabinet for the executive functions he has to fulfil. What are the facts with regard to the new dispensation? The State President is dependent on a Cabinet in consultation with which he must act. He is dependent on three Ministers’ Councils whose advice he has to follow if he wants to govern. He is dependent on three Houses if he wants to govern. Why then are we distorting the truth so in this regard? It is because the political sands of time are running out for the hon. the Leader of the Opposition. He has to say “no”, not because he wants to but because the role he and his party are going to play in the future dispensation in the country is becoming less and less important.

†So the implications of the Constitution Bill for the official Opposition is that their role will be reduced. It will be reduced because they will not in future be able to pretend to talk on behalf of Coloured people, nor will they be able to pretend to talk on behalf of the Indian people.

Mr. M. A. TARR:

Nor will you be able to.

The MINISTER:

I do not want to talk on their behalf; that is why we are changing the system. I am being opposed by the people who say that they are reformists. I am being opposed by people who pay lip-service to reform. Every step we take is being obstructed by a cynical Opposition. [Interjections.] I wish I had the time to take that argument further.

The hon. the Leader of the Opposition said—

We are warned about the consequences of a “no” vote. I have heard so many stories of lunches being held between Cabinet Ministers and business people.

*I challenge the hon. the Leader of the Opposition to mention one businessman who I ostensibly asked to support us in order to keep the CP out. If he is not prepared to do so, he told an untruth.

*The LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION:

I am telling you what they told me.

*The MINISTER:

I say the hon. the Leader of the Opposition cannot mention one name of a person who told him that. [Interjections.] He does not have the courage to do it. He is merely spreading gossip.

*The LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION:

That is quite ridiculous.

*The MINISTER:

No, it is not ridiculous. I do not think it behoves him to conduct a debate in this House on the basis of a lot of gossip people have told him. [Interjections.]

*The LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION:

I said that they had said it.

*The MINISTER:

Why does the hon. the Leader of the Opposition repeat it?

*The LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION:

I mentioned what was being said.

*The MINISTER:

Why does he not tell us who said it so that I can take the matter up with whoever it was. If the hon. the Leader of the Opposition has the courage he will do it.

*The LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION:

Why cannot I say what they said?

*The MINISTER:

But I am asking who said it. If the hon. the Leader of the Opposition will not tell me that then surely it is gossip.

*The LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION:

I shall give you the whole list confidentially.

*The MINISTER:

No. The hon. the Leader of the Opposition must give it to us here. He must not give it to me confidentially. He must tell us here because he is slandering business people too.

*The LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION:

No, not at all.

*The MINISTER:

I come now to the hon. member for Waterberg. He addressed himself to me and I should like to address him if he will stop making noises. I want to tell him that every time we held a discussion in the Cabinet about varying points of view outside the Cabinet it had to do with the actions and statements of the hon. member for Waterberg. Those were the only occasions on which we had to do it. I want to give him three examples. He will remember the well-known Marble Hall speech about integration in the labour field.

*Dr. W. J. SNYMAN:

It was a fine speech.

*The MINISTER:

The hon. member for Pietersburg says it was a fine speech. I do not deny that. We discussed this among ourselves on 24 November 1981.

*Mr. H. E. J. VAN RENSBURG:

In the morning or in the evening?

*The PRIME MINISTER:

In the case of that hon. member it will always be at night.

*The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:

Sir, in the morning the hon. member for Bryanston looks the way many people do in the evening. He knows what I mean.

Dr. M. S. BARNARD:

That is the joke of the year.

*An HON. MEMBER:

You have the date wrong.

*The MINISTER:

No, I do not have it wrong. I checked it. On that day each member of the Cabinet was given the opportunity to state his point of view, everyone in turn. When I spoke—and I have the hon. the Prime Minister’s permission to say this—I said that I was very anxious to ensure whether I was in the team or out of the team. I said that if I were the man who was out of the team I knew my duty and would do it. My colleagues will confirm this. I said that the way I saw the party’s policy in respect of Coloureds and Asians was that they lived in the same country and that because they lived in the same country, in the final analysis there could be only one government in the country. I went on to say that implied that we would have to establish institutions for the various groups but that we would also have to establish institutions for the various groups where they could have co-responsibility and joint decision-making. That is a fact. When I asked whether I was in the team the hon. member for Waterberg did not utter a sound. He sat there like a sphinx.

That is not all. On the following occasion the issue was school sport. The hon. the Prime Minister had to issue a statement on school sport because of the different view of the matter of the hon. member for Waterberg.

*Dr. A. P. TREURNICHT:

That was a scandalous statement.

*The MINISTER:

It was a statement which dealt with the hon. member’s point of view and his attitude. The statement reflected that hon. member’s attitude towards other people exactly.

*The MINISTER OF CO-OPERATION AND DEVELOPMENT:

Subsequently he remained in office as a Minister under the Prime Minister for some months without saying a word.

*The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:

When the hon. the Prime Minister protected him he called him a soaring eagle … [Interjections.] He stayed. This man with his firm fundamental views stayed! The eagle soared and he stayed. The hon. leader of the CP addressed a meeting in Porterville in the constituency of my colleague the hon. the Minister of Industries, Commerce and Tourism.

*Dr. A. P. TREURNICHT:

Yes.

*The MINISTER:

He says “yes”. He made a statement at that meeting—I am not going to quote it—which was in direct conflict with the Government’s standpoint. When he spoke to the Prime Minister he said that he had misunderstood him and that he would rectify it on a later occasion.

*Dr. A. P. TREURNICHT:

Oh no, come on.

*The MINISTER:

That is the gospel truth.

*Dr. A. P. TREURNICHT:

I told you I differed with you.

*The MINISTER:

The hon. member said he would rectify it but he did not do so.

*Dr. A. P. TREURNICHT:

I repeated it at the Transvaal congress.

*The MINISTER:

No, the hon. member did not repeat it. The hon. member said that there had to be areas of co-responsibility. On 3 November 1981 the hon. member said at the Transvaal congress that there was no conflict of opinion between himself and the Prime Minister, that there was no disagreement between them. He said he stood by the Prime Minister.

*Dr. A. P. TREURNICHT:

No, that is not true.

*The MINISTER:

Then I apologize. The hon. member did not stand by the Prime Minister. [Interjections.]

The hon. member for Waterberg made a further important statement in this debate.

*The DEPUTY MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT AFFAIRS AND FISHERIES:

I wonder whether he stands by the CP.

*The MINISTER:

I do not know whether he stands by the CP but one thing I do know: They do not stand by him. The CP does not stand by him. They stand by Dr. Mulder.

I want to quote what the hon. member for Waterberg said, viz.—

’n Mens het mos nie selfbeskikking as jy nie soos Swart State jou eie grondwet en veiligheidsdienste het nie, as jy nie jou eie begroting kan opstel nie, as jy nie belastings kan hef nie en as jy nie jou eie regsgebied het waarbinne jy jou eie wette self kan toepas nie.

That is a fine philosophy. I do not differ with the hon. member that that is his philosophy. After all, it has always been his philosophy. Has that always been the hon. member’s philosophy? The hon. member is silent now. In the absence of any denial that has always been his philosophy, I say now that it has in fact always been his philosophy, and I ask him: What was he doing in the NP? What was he doing in Mr. Vorster’s Cabinet? What was he doing in the present Prime Minister’s Cabinet? No honourable person with such a philosophy could remain in that Cabinet. No man whose political loyalty was under suspicion could remain the leader of the NP in the Transvaal. What was the hon. member doing there?

Then the hon. member says that they did not hold a meeting before that important caucus meeting. The fact is that those hon. members met the evening before. He knows that. Why does the hon. member tell an untruth?

*Mr. F. J. LE ROUX:

Where did you draft the motion?

*The MINISTER:

That is not the point. The hon. member for Waterberg confirms it. He is the man who told me that they had met the previous night.

*Dr. A. P. TREURNICHT:

I did not say that.

*The MINISTER:

I am not dealing with a motion now but with a lie.

*Dr. A. P. TREURNICHT:

What lie are you speaking of now?

*The MINISTER:

The statement he made that they did not meet, because they had met the previous evening.

Mr. B. R. BAMFORD:

Are we going to have all this on TV?

*The MINISTER:

I should like the hon. member for Groote Schuur to appear on TV so that the people can see what he looks like. He can stand on his head.

Mr. B. R. BAMFORD:

Are you ashamed of this Parliament?

The MINISTER:

No, I am not ashamed of Parliament. I am ashamed of some hon. members and that hon. member is one of them.

*I do not want to elaborate on this.

*Mr. F. J. LE ROUX:

Shall I, too, start telling what was said in private?

*The MINISTER:

Yes, the hon. member can do so. All I said was that there was a meeting. I did not reveal the nature of the discussion.

*Mr. F. J. LE ROUX:

I ask you to tell hon. members what was said during that private discussion. [Interjections.]

*Mr. SPEAKER:

Order! Hon. members must give the hon. the Minister the opportunity to make his speech.

*The MINISTER:

I listened carefully to the hon. member for Rissik and I want to tell him that he did a terrible thing. I want to ask him whether he has seen the document entitled “Die Bolwerk agter P. W. Botha”. Has the hon. member seen it?

*Mr. H. D. K. VAN DER MERWE:

Who was the author?

*The MINISTER:

It was anonymous as usual. Did the hon. member see the document “Die Bolwerk agter P. W. Botha”? I am asking him a direct question.

*Mr. H. D. K. VAN DER MERWE:

Who wrote that document?

*The MINISTER:

It was anonymous, but have you never heard of the document “Die Bolwerk agter P. W. Botha”? Has the hon. member not yet seen a document with that title?

*Mr. H. D. K. VAN DER MERWE:

I have seen many documents.

*The MINISTER:

May I send you the document?

*Mr. H. D. K. VAN DER MERWE:

Yes.

*The MINISTER:

I shall ask a service officer to hand the document to you.

*Mr. H. D. K. VAN DER MERWE:

Yes, I have seen it. [Interjections.]

*The MINISTER:

Then I want to ask the hon. member a further question. Who gave it to the hon. member? Where did he get it?

*Mr. H. D. K. VAN DER MERWE:

From a service officer.

*An HON. MEMBER:

He wrote it himself.

*The MINISTER:

This is very interesting.

*Mr. H. D. K. VAN DER MERWE:

Who gave it to you?

*The MINISTER:

The secretary of my department.

*Mr. H. D. K. VAN DER MERWE:

Where did he get it?

*The MINISTER:

Go and ask him. However, that is not the point.

Mr. B. R. BAMFORD:

Mr. Speaker, on a point of order: Are you happy with the way that the debate has deteriorated into a cross-examination?

Mr. SPEAKER:

Order! I shall decide whether the debate is in order or not. The hon. the Minister may proceed.

*The MINISTER:

The hon. member does not want to reply; he does not want to say whether he has seen the document or not.

*Mr. H. D. K. VAN DER MERWE:

You must just tell me which document.

*The MINISTER:

Let us finish off now. The fact is that the hon. member used the content of that document in a speech in this House. Does he agree with me? However, I take it that he was not the author of the document.

*Mr. H. D. K. VAN DER MERWE:

Why are you so interested in that?

*The MINISTER:

Because I want to get round to something else. The fact of the matter is that is as scandalous a document as the CP document under the auspices of Rev. Scheuer.

*Mr. H. D. K. VAN DER MERWE:

Refute it.

*The MINISTER:

I will. It is as scandalous a document. Hon. members must go and read the hon. member’s speech of 1 June. Do hon. members know what he did? He brought an unsigned document to this House, a document the origins of which he did not want to identify, and based a speech on that document, and what did he do in that speech? By way of innuendo, by way of association and by means of gossip-mongering, he accused Government members of being pawns in the hands of forces outside the country. That is scandalous conduct for which he is going to be called to book in the future. I also want to ask the hon. the leader of the CP whether he approves of that. Does he approve of the fact that unsigned documents, which are distributed with a view to besmirching people’s characters, are used in such a dubious way as in the speech of one of his hon. members in the House?

*Mr. H. D. K. VAN DER MERWE:

I challenge you to refute the arguments contained in that document. [Interjections.]

*The MINISTER:

The first point, Mr. Speaker … [Interjections.]

*Mr. SPEAKER:

Order!

*The MINISTER:

The first point, Mr. Speaker, is that the hon. member quoted that document completely out of context. I proved as much in my reply to that particular debate.

*Mr. H. D. K. VAN DER MERWE:

Prove it; you have not yet done so.

*The MINISTER:

But go and read my Hansard. [Interjections.] The second point is the allegation that Lijphart is prescribing to the President’s Council, and even after Prof. Lijphart had criticized the report of the President’s Council as a deviation from his own standpoint.

The hon. member goes even further and insinuates that someone had invited Huntington and that he prescribes to me how reform should take place. I say that anyone who says that inside or outside the House is telling a lie.

*Mr. H. D. K. VAN DER MERWE:

Say it again.

*The MINISTER:

What I am saying is that anyone that says that inside or outside the House is telling a lie. It is not true that Huntington is prescribing to me, Mr. Speaker.

*Dr. F. A. H. VAN STADEN:

Your actions slot in with what Huntington has said.

*The MINISTER:

Why did the hon. member for Rissik not—and I am asking this in all fairness—in accordance with traditional codes, as befitting colleagues, quote here my inaugural speech at that congress? Why did he not do so? He did, after all, have it at his disposal.

*Mr. H. D. K. VAN DER MERWE:

I make my own speeches and I formulate my own arguments.

*The MINISTER:

That is the very point I want to emphasize. The hon. member did not make his own speech; on the contrary, he was acting as the mouthpiece of some nameless individual, someone whose name he does not want to reveal.

*The MINISTER OF INTERNAL AFFAIRS:

He himself was the author of the document.

*The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:

Yes, either he himself is the author or he is acting as the mouthpiece for some nameless individual. [Interjections.]

*The MINISTER OF INTERNAL AFFAIRS:

He says he himself is the author.

*The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:

Well, if he himself is the author … [Interjections.]

*Mr. SPEAKER:

Order!

*The MINISTER:

Mr. Speaker, if he himself is the author, why has he not put his name to it? [Interjections.]

*The MINISTER OF CO-OPERATION AND DEVELOPMENT:

Daan, why are you nameless? [Interjections.]

*The MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING:

Why is the hon. member for Rissik ashamed to attach his name to it? [Interjections.] If he is indeed the author he must have known, of course, that if he attached his name to it, no one would believe him.

*Mr. H. D. K. VAN DER MERWE:

I wrote it myself.

*The MINISTER:

The hon. member says he himself drew it up, Mr. Speaker. [Interjections.] He now admits having drawn it up himself. All I can say to him, Mr. Speaker, is that by way of that document the hon. member has sent lies out into the world, without caring a whit above whether his country is besmirched by it or not. [Interjections.] In my view that makes his conduct even more scandalous than at any other point in time.

In conclusion I now want to turn to the hon. member for Lichtenburg. I am not going to focus on him for any length of time. [Interjections.] The hon. member for Lichtenburg made a whole series of statements here in the House. [Interjections.]

*Mr. SPEAKER:

Order!

*The MINISTER:

The hon. member for Lichtenburg … [Interjections.]

*Mr. A. FOURIE:

Mr. Speaker, on a point of order: Is the hon. member for Brakpan entitled to shout to the hon. member for Krugersdorp in this House: “You are lying”?

*Mr. SPEAKER:

Order! Did the hon. member for Brakpan say that?

*Mr. F. J. LE ROUX:

Yes, Mr. Speaker, I did, but I withdraw it. [Interjections.]

*The MINISTER:

I just want us to record the fact that the surname of the author of this shameless document—we must advertise the fact far and wide—is Van der Merwe.

*HON. MEMBER:

H. D. K.!

*The MINISTER:

Yes, H. D. K. van der Merwe. [Interjections.] He did say, after all, that this was his own document. [Interjections.]

Mr. Speaker, I want to say today that the alteration in the hon. member for Lichtenburg’s personality has been a painful and tragic thing to watch. Mr. Speaker, apart from the hon. the Prime Minister, whom I have known for many years now, there was no man in the Cabinet—and I want to put this on record today—with whom I had the measure of rapport that I had with the hon. member for Lichtenburg. It is with the utmost seriousness that I submit that his links with the CP have made the hon. member for Lichtenburg a tragic figure. [Interjections.] Just look at what the hon. member for Lichtenburg is doing. Just look at what he is doing. I just want to deal with that very briefly, Mr. Speaker.

The accusations the hon. member for Lichtenburg levels at us are, firstly, that this Bill will give rise to political integration, precisely what the PFP wants. He also says that democracy will thus be abolished. He has also said that it will destroy the self-determination of the Whites. He went on to motivate his standpoints. He alleges that the multiracial Cabinet would mean political integration. I just want to ask him whether a multiracial Council of Cabinets which, in terms of my erstwhile policy and his, would take decisions in regard to legislation in connection with having affairs of common concern carried out, was integration or not, because if, according to him, that is now the case, it must also have been the case at that stage. If the hon. member did not like what was happening, why did he stay? He says a tricameral Parliament means integration, but he does not say that people have their own institutions or their own voters’ rolls. He writes off own affairs. He says there is no self-determination. Surely that is not true. For the first time in the country’s history own affairs are being defined in the constitution.

*Mr. P. C. CRONJÉ:

Apartheid, yes.

*The MINISTER:

Yes, I concede as much. What I am saying, however, is that this is a survival mechanism, whilst theirs is a mechanism for destruction. [Interjections.] The hon. member says there will be a multiracial President’s Council, but the hon. member for Brakpan and the hon. member for Rissik recommended a multiracial President’s Council and they signed that recommendation.

*Mr. F. J. LE ROUX:

That was an advisory council.

*The MINISTER:

An advisory council, yes, but it was multiracial and was to have worked out a constitution for us. That, however, is not integration.

The hon. member says we are abolishing democracy, because he says that people who are not elected cannot make a final decision. Is he forgetting that he and the hon. members sitting there accepted the fact that with the agreement of one Parliament the President could promulgate a law? He himself said it could be done in that way. The erstwhile leader also said it. It could be done with the agreement of either the White Parliament, the Coloured Parliament or the Asian Parliament. That constitution therefore made provision for the President to promulgate legislation, involving general affairs, solely on the basis of agreement reached by the Coloured Parliament.

That hon. member also voted for an electoral college to elect the President, an electoral college comprised of Whites, Coloureds and Asians. That was a multiracial electoral college. If that was his standpoint, why did he stay? Such conduct surely clashes with the political codes which we have and which we have maintained.

What does the hon. member also do? On the basis of a smear pamphlet, he spreads a lie about facts that he himself could have checked. He did not check them, and we know why he did not do so. The reason was that he knew they could not achieve anything other than using dubious methods to fight their opponents.

The hon. member for Waterberg and the hon. member for Lichtenburg surely knew what their other colleagues did not know, because they were in the Cabinet. Every appointment that was announced at the time was discussed by the Cabinet and a joint decision was taken.

*Mr. H. D. K. VAN DER MERWE:

Eschel Rhoodie’s too?

*The MINISTER:

No, his appointment was not discussed by the Cabinet, because he was not a member of the President’s Council. [Interjections.] I assume, however, that the hon. member will concede that Dr. Connie Mulder trusted Dr. Rhoodie well enough to have appointed him.

*Mr. H. D. K. VAN DER MERWE:

And a court eventually exonerated him.

*The MINISTER:

I do not want to talk about any court. It is true that on technical grounds the courts did find him innocent, but I do not want to discuss that, because it is unfair. [Interjections.]

What did the hon. member for Lichtenburg also do? [Interjections.] Mr. Speaker, I would please like to ask you for your protection.

*Mr. SPEAKER:

Order! I am really sorry that such a step has become necessary, but I am now going to prohibit all further interjections while the hon. the Minister is speaking. There must now be order in the House. This is important legislation that the House is dealing with and we cannot go on in this way.

*The MINISTER:

Everyone is trying to formulate a specific standpoint, trying to propagate a specific policy, in the light of his own insight and ability, and we have every right to do so. If we regard the tradition of this institution as highly as we say we do, however, we do not have the right to use such methods to fight each other.

I am accusing those hon. members of making a caricature of the people I belong to. I am accusing them directly, because I contend that is not what the Afrikaners are like, those are not the methods they use; they do not use smear tactics to achieve their goal. What happens to a person who gets to be like that?

I want to run briefly to the hon. member for Brakpan and just make one remark. The hon. member accuses me of having steamrollered the debate like some bully. Surely he knows that it is not true. Why does he do it? He is the hon. member who congratulated me on the patience I had shown in the Select Committee. He said that I steam-rollered the debate like some bully. Why does he do that? He knows it is factually incorrect.

†I now turn to the hon. leader of the NRP. I should like to make just one comment. I understand that his going to the referendum and recommending to people to vote “yes” does not imply that the hon. member and his party have lost their political identity. It does not imply that the party has changed its political philosophy and policy. I know personally that it is not easy to reach beyond the political divisions in this country. Whatever may happen in future and whatever may happen at the referendum, it stands to the everlasting credit of that hon. leader and his party that they were prepared, at risk to themselves, to reach out beyond the division along party lines.

*I want to conclude. I know that on 2 November the decisions can be final. I know that in spite of our own standpoints in regard to the “yes” vote or “no” vote, 2 November can possibly put an end to the process of reform. If the people who vote “no” exceed in number those who vote “yes”, we shall not be going back to the drawing board; that would finish off any possibility of reform.

*Mr. A. SAVAGE:

Is that inevitable?

*Mr. SPEAKER:

Order! The hon. member for Walmer must withdraw from the Chamber for the remainder of the day’s sitting for having disregarded the authority of the Chair.

The hon. member thereupon withdrew.

*The MINISTER:

That would mean ending it all and telling one another in this country that the options, which are few at the moment, have become even fewer. It will mean telling one another, our fellow citizens, that we are not able to bring about orderly reform. We shall then be telling the generations to come that we did not have the strength to break free of our own small-minded positions. We would then be telling those who come after us that we could not get away from domination. We would then also be telling the people that we could not bring ourselves to give participation in government to those people who, together with us, form a nation. We would then be telling the people of today, and those of tomorrow, that it was not possible to build up national unity in the country across colour lines, and now they must not accuse me of advocating integration. Then we would be saying “no” to the possibility of orderly reform and to the methods for achieving this. We would then also be saying that the Coloureds and the Whites may not decide for themselves about own affairs. We would also be saying that the Asians are not entitled to participate in taking the decisions affecting their own lives in their own country. We would be saying “no” to the two concepts which brought us and the CP here. We would be saying “no” to self-determination, “no” to co-responsibility and, in the final instance, “no” to our country. There is nothing in this constitution that will prohibit those serving under it from changing it if they want to. There is nothing that precludes any reform process. That is a door that is opening onto a new vision for the country. It embodies new possibilities and is creating more living space for people; it is busy changing the fortunes of Africa. It will also create possibilities, not only for stabilizing our own country but also for exercising a stabilizing influence in Southern Africa. We are opening doors that could open up far-reaching horizons in people’s lives, opening up doors allowing us to serve our country in all its greatness.

Mr. B. R. BAMFORD:

Mr. Speaker, on a point of order: In view of the fact that the hon. member for Walmer was ordered to withdraw from the Chamber I wish to explain the circumstances in which the interjection was made. It was an interjection entirely on its own and it was not the culmination of a large number of interjections. Would you be prepared to reconsider your ruling and permit the hon. member to participate in the division?

Mr. SPEAKER:

I regret that I am unable to accede to the request of the hon. Chief Whip.

Question put,

Upon which the House divided:

Ayes—119: Alant, T. G.; Badenhorst, P. J.; Ballot, G. C.; Bartlett, G. S.; Blanche, J. P. I.; Botha, C. J. v. R.; Botha, P. W.; Botha, R. F.; Botha, S. P.; Botma, M. C.; Breytenbach, W. N.; Clase, P. J.; Coetsee, H. J.; Coetzer, H. S.; Conradie, F. D.; Cronjé, P.; Cunningham, J. H.; De Jager, A. M. v. A.; De Klerk, F. W.; Delport, W. H.; De Pontes, P.; De Villiers, D. J.; Du Plessis, B. J.; Du Plessis, G. C.; Durr, K. D. S.; Du Toit, J. P.; Fick, L. H.; Fouché, A. F.; Fourie, A.; Geldenhuys, A.; Geldenhuys, B. L.; Golden, S. G. A.; Grobler, J. P.; Hardingham, R. W.; Hayward, S. A. S.; Heine, W. J.; Heunis, J. C.; Heyns, J. H.; Hugo, P. B. B.; Jordaan, A. L.; Kleynhans, J. W.; Koornhof, P. G. J.; Kotzé, G. J.; Landman, W. J.; Le Grange, L.; Lemmer, W. A.; Le Roux, D. E. T.; Le Roux, Z. P.; Ligthelm, C. J.; Ligthelm, N. W.; Lloyd, J. J.; Louw, E. v. d. M.; Louw, M. H.; Malan, W. C.; Malherbe, G. J.; Marais, G.; Marais, P. G.; Mare, P. L.; Maree, M. D.; Meiring, J. W. H.; Mentz, J. H. W.; Meyer, W. D.; Munnik, L. A. P. A.; Nel, D. J. L.; Niemann, J. J.; Nothnagel, A. E.; Odendaal, W. A.; Olivier, P. J. S.; Page, B. W. B.; Poggenpoel, D. J.; Pretorius, N. J.; Pretorius, P. H.; Rabie, J.; Raw, W. V.; Rencken, C. R. E.; Rogers, P. R. C.; Schoeman, W. J.; Schutte, D. P. A.; Scott, D. B.; Simkin, C. H. W.; Steyn, D. W.; Streicher, D. M.; Swanepoel, K. D.; Tempel, H. J.; Terblanche, A. J. W. P. S.; Terblanche, G. P. D.; Thompson, A. G.; Ungerer, J. H. B.; Van Breda, A.; Van der Linde, G. J.; Van der Merwe, C. J.; Van der Merwe, G. J.; Van der Walt, H. J. D.; Van Eeden, D. S.; Van Niekerk, A. I.; Van Rensburg, H. M. J. (Mossel Bay); Van Rensburg, H. M. J. (Rosettenville); Van Staden, J. W.; Van Vuuren, L. M. J.; Van Wyk, J. A.; Van Zyl, J. G.; Venter, A. A.; Vermeulen, J. A. J.; Viljoen, G. v. N.; Vilonel, J. J.; Vlok, A. J.; Volker, V. A.; Watterson, D. W.; Weeber, A.; Welgemoed, P. J.; Wessels, L.; Wiley, J. W. E.; Wright, A. P.

Tellers: W. J. Cuyler, S. J. de Beer, W. T. Kritzinger, R. P. Meyer, L. van der Watt and M. H. Veldman.

Noes—35: Andrew, K. M.; Barnard, M. S.; Barnard, S. P.; Boraine, A. L.; Cronjé, P. C.; Dalling, D. J.; Eglin, C. W.; Gastrow, P. H. P.; Goodall, B. B.; Hoon, J. H.; Hulley, R. R.; Le Roux, F. J.; Malcomess, D. J. N.; Olivier, N. J. J.; Pitman, S. A.; Scholtz, E. M.; Slabbert, F. v. Z.; Snyman, W. J.; Soal, P. G.; Suzman, H.; Swart, R. A. F.; Tarr, M. A.; Treurnicht, A. P.; Uys, C.; Van der Merwe, H. D. K.; Van der Merwe, J. H.; Van der Merwe, S. S.; Van der Merwe, W. L.; Van Heerden, R. F.; Van Rensburg, H. E. J.; Van Staden, F. A. H.; Van Zyl, J. J. B.; Visagie, J. H.

Tellers: B. R. Bamford and P. A. Myburgh.

Question agreed to.

Bill read a Third Time.

ADJOURNMENT OF HOUSE (Motion) *The PRIME MINISTER:

Mr. Speaker, before moving the adjournment of the House, I want to inform this House that a proclamation will be issued to prorogue the House of Assembly on 26 January 1984 and to summon it to meet on 27 January 1984 for the dispatch of business.

I now move—

That the House do now adjourn.

Agreed to.

The House adjourned at 10h51 until Friday, 27 January 1984.

APPENDIX INDEX TO SPEECHES*

Abbreviations—(R.)—“Reading”; (C.)—“Committee”; (A.)—“Amendment; S.C.—“Select Committee”; (S.)—“Standing Committees” (Vol. 109).

ALANT, Dr. T. G. (Pretoria East)—

  • Bills—
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5205, 5206; Mineral and Energy Affairs, 5718; National Education, 6095, 6098; Foreign Affairs and Information, 6821; Defence, 7480; Environment Affairs, 707 (S.).
    • Universities (A.), (2R.) 9125; (C.) 9337.
    • Universities and Technikons Advisory Council, (2R.) 9677; (3R.) 10761.

ANDREW, Mr. K. M. (Cape Town Gardens)—

  • Motions—
    • Constitutional Ordering of the Republic, 798.
    • Development of Urban Blacks Outside Black States, 1354.
  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1468, 1471.
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2012, 2042-8.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C.) 2813.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3736.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—National Education, 6079, 6121; Transport, 6179; Defence, 7577; Internal Affairs, 7772; Co-operation and Development, 8683; Education and Training, 152 (S.); Environment Affairs, 694 (S.).
    • Universities (A.), (2R.) 9232; (C.) 9372-91.
    • Finance, (2R.) 10308; (C.) 10334-6.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 12676-98.
    • Referendum’s, (2R.) 13039; (C.) 13149, 13213-5, 13278-85.

ARONSON, Mr. T.—

  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1213.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4433; (C.) Votes—Finance and Audit, 6988; Industries, Commerce and Tourism, 494 (S.).
    • Alienation of Land (A.), (2R.) 4994; (C.) 5014.
    • Sales Tax (A.), (2R.) 10387.

BADENHORST, the Hon. P. J. (Oudtshoorn)—

  • [Deputy Minister of Internal Affairs]
  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1474.
    • Rural Coloured Areas (A.), (2R.) 4889, 4901.
    • Coloured Farmers Assistance (A.), (2R.) 4904, 4916.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Internal Affairs, 7792, 7905.
    • Indecent or Obscene Photographic Matter (A.), (2R.) 8231, 8237.
    • Coloured Persons Education (A.), (2R.) 9814, 9836; (C.) 9840-1.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (3R.) 13580.

BALLOT, Mr. G. C. (Overvaal)—

  • Bills—
    • Basic Conditions of Employment, (2R.) 501; (3R.) 697.
    • Additional Post Office Appropriation, (2R.) 1571.
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R.) 3169.
    • Alienation of Land (A.), (2R.) 5000.
    • S.A. Iron and Steel Industrial Corporation, Ltd. (A.), (2R.) 5905.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Finance and Audit, 7014; Police, 63 (S.).

BAMFORD, Mr. B. R. (Groote Schuur)—

  • Motions—
    • Tribute to Speaker, 890.
    • S.C. on conduct of Minister, 5612.
  • Bills—
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Parliament, 5053, 5065; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8472.
    • National Roads (2A.), (2R.) 6485.
    • University of Port Elizabeth (Private A.), (2R.) 7724.
    • University of Cape Town (Private A.), (2R.) 7739, 7748.

BARNARD, Dr. M. S. (Parktown)—

  • Bills—
    • Basic Conditions of Employment, (C.) 630-55; (3R.) 711.
    • Machinery and Occupational Safety, (C.) 675.
    • Pharmacy (A.), (2R.) 2171.
    • Health (A.), (2R.) 2192.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C.) 2738.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4741; (C.) Votes—National Education, 6065; Defence, 7585; Internal Affairs, 7913; Education and Training, 207 (S.); Health and Welfare, 249 (S.), 378 (S.); Environment Affairs, 712 (S.); (3R.) 10649.
    • Human Tissue, (2R.) 6351, 6380; (C.) 6432-43; (3R.) 6557.
    • Child Care, (2R.) 6564; (C.) 8149-231.
    • Occupational Diseases in Mines and Works (A.), (2R.) 10946; (C.) 11064; (3R.) 13110.
    • Prisons (A.), (C.) 11170.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 12402, 12435.
  • Select Committee—
    • First Report of S.C. on Pensions, 9735.

BARNARD, Mr. S. P. (Langlaagte)—

  • Motions—
    • Housing Strategy, 2913.
    • S.C. on conduct of Minister, 5646.
  • Bills—
    • Labour Relations (A.), (2R.) 480; (3R.) 614.
    • Basic Conditions of Employment, (2R.) 504; (C.) 647, 653.
    • Road Transportation (A.), (2R.) 769; (C.) 1017, 1023; (3R.) 1114.
    • Transport Services Additional Appropriation, (C.) 1097.
    • Conditions of Employment (S.A. Transport Services), (2R.) 1145, 1598; (C.) 1718-43; (3R.) 1978.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2564; (C.) 2706.
    • Abolition of the Fuel Research Institute, (2R.) 3496.
    • Coal, (2R.) 3526.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5255; Mineral and Energy Affairs, 5707, 5739; Finance and Audit, 6984, 7018; Manpower, 7684; Industries, Commerce and Tourism, 437 (S.); Community Development, 747 (S.), 878 (S.); (3R.) 10640.
    • Property Time-Sharing Control, (2R.) 5824; (C.) 6548-55.
    • Travel Agents and Travel Agencies, (2R.) 5871.
    • S.A. Iron and Steel Industrial Corporation, Ltd. (A.), (2R.) 5907; (C.) 6239-41; (3R.) 6245.
    • Liquor (A.), (2R.) 5940; (3R.) 6247.
    • Maintenance and Promotion of Competition (A.), (2R.) 5985; (3R.) 6256.
    • Housing (A.), (2R.) 6283.
    • Community Development (A.), (2R.) 6343.
    • Professional Engineers (A.), (2R.) 8243.
    • Sectional Titles (A.), (2R.) 8261.
    • Advanced Technical Education (A.), (2R.) 9528; (3R.) 9746.
    • S.A. Tourism Board, (2R.) 9792.
    • Laws on Co-operation and Development (A.), (C.) 11026.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 11581-97, 11639-96, 11717-26, 12325-51, 12486, 12706, 12771.

BARTLETT, Mr. G. S. (Amanzimtoti)—

  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 180.
    • Transport Services of the RSA, 1814.
    • Control of Inflation, 1839, 1892.
  • Bills—
    • Compulsory Motor Vehicle Insurance (A.), (2R.) 744.
    • Road Transportation (A.), (2R.) 776, 901; (C.) 1009-60; (3R.) 1115.
    • National Roads (A.), (2R.) 945; (C.) 1066, 1072; (3R.) 1549.
    • Perishable Products Export Control, (2R.) 976.
    • Marine Traffic (A.), (2R.) 986.
    • Transport Services Additional Appropriation, (2R.) 1086; (C.) 1103, 1110.
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1204; (3R.) 1922.
    • S.A. Transport Services (A.), (2R.) 1657; (C.) 1758.
    • S.A. Transport Services Finances and Accounts, (2R.) 1678; (C.) 1761-74; (3R.) 2095.
    • Public Accountants and Auditors (A.), (2R.) 1691.
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2018-9.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2453; (C.) 2713, 2730; (3R.) 2974.
    • Land Bank (A.) (2R.) 4349.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4423; (C.) Votes—Transport, 6167; Finance and Audit, 6964; Agriculture, 8081; Industries, Commerce and Tourism, 425 (S.), 445 (S.); (3R.) 10704.
    • Alienation of Land (A.), (2R.) 4998.
    • Property Time-Sharing Control, (2R.) 5832; (C.) 6523-32; (3R.) 8618.
    • S.A. Iron and Steel Industrial Corporation, Ltd. (A.), (2R.) 5913; (C.) 6239-42; (3R.) 6244.
    • Liquor (A.), (2R.) 5949.
    • Maintenance and Promotion of Competition (A.), (2R.) 5994; (3R.) 6259.
    • Copyright (A.), (2R.) 6659; (C.) 6678; (3R.) 6685.
    • Patents (A.), (2R.) 6693.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7156.
    • Customs and Excise (A.), (2R.) 10052.
    • Revenue Laws (A.), (2R.) 10238. Finance, (2R.) 10304.
    • Income Tax, (2R.) 10350.
    • Sales Tax (A.), (2R.) 10398; (C.) 10415.
    • Occupational Diseases in Mines and Works (A.), (3R.) 13114.

BLANCHÉ, Mr. J. P. I. (Boksburg)—

  • Bills—
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R.) 3156; (3R.) 3364.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4663.
    • Copyright (A.), (2R.) 6655.
    • Patents (A.), (2R.) 6690.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7180; (C.) 12262, 12774.
    • Professional Engineers (A.), (2R.) 8240.
    • S.A. Tourism Board, (2R.) 9718.
    • Promotion of Local Government Affairs, (2R.) 9907; (3R.) 10201.

BORAINE, Dr. A. L. (Pinelands)—

  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 150.
    • Repeal of Prohibition of Political Interference Act, 2309.
    • Manpower Training, 2840.
  • Bills—
    • Manpower Training (A.), (2R.) 439.
    • Labour Relations (A.), (2R.) 453; (3R.) 610.
    • Basic Conditions of Employment, (3R.) 729.
    • Conditions of Employment (S.A. Transport Services), (2R.) 1628. Defence (A.), (C.) 3936-56. Appropriation, (2R.) 4619; (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5349; Foreign Affairs and Information, 6768, 6897; Manpower, 7608, 7705; Education and Training, 235 (S.); (3R.) 10513.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7276; (Instruction) 11291; (C.) 11573, 11601, 12199, 12285, 12348, 12385, 12451-62; (3R.) 13503.
    • Universities (A.), (2R.) 9144; (C.) 9338-55, 9394-402, 9421; (3R.) 9579.

BOTHA, Mr. C. J. van R. (Umlazi)—

  • Motion—
    • RSA’s role in developing Southern Africa, 2406.
  • Bills—
    • Additional Post Office Appropriation, (2R.) 1565; (C.) 1595.
    • Conditions of Employment (S.A. Transport Services), (2R.) 1625.
    • Part Appropriation, (3R.) 1928.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2462.
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R.) 3145.
    • Post Office (A.), (2R.) 3402.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4604; (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5103; Foreign Affairs and Information, 6874; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8399.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7158.
    • University of Durban-Westville, (2R.) 8980; (C.) 9071.
    • Advanced Technical Education (A.), (C.) 9640; (3R.) 9749.
    • Referendum’s, (2R.) 13004; (C.) 13191.

BOTHA, the Hon. P. W., D.M.S. (George)—

  • [Prime Minister]
  • Motions—
    • Condolence (the late State President C. R. Swart), 13.
    • No Confidence, 106, 109.
    • Tribute to Speaker, 890.
    • Election of Speaker, 897.
  • Statements—
    • Referendum on Constitution, 4284.
    • Adjournment of House, 8901.
    • Price of Fuel, 11100.
    • Date and Question for the Referendum on the Constitution Bill, 11949.
  • Bills—
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5126, 5269, 5353; (3R.) 10673.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (3R.) 13508, 13512.

BOTHA, the Hon. R. F., D.M.S. (Westdene)—

  • [Minister of Foreign Affairs and Information]
  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 293.
    • RSA’s role in developing Southern Africa, 2413.
  • Bill—
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5311; Foreign Affairs and Information, 6706, 6746, 6783, 6849, 6926.

BOTHA, the Hon. S. P., D.M.S. (Soutpansberg)—

  • [Minister of Manpower and Leader of the House]
  • Motions—
    • Manpower Training, 2876, 2877.
    • S.C. on conduct of Minister, 5591.
    • Sittings of the House, 11863, 12097, 12118.
    • Adjournment of House, 13596.
  • Bills—
    • Manpower Training (A.), (2R.) 437, 448.
    • Labour Relations (A.), (2R.) 450, 483; (C.) 576; (3R.) 624.
    • Basic Conditions of Employment, (2R.) 491, 521, 526; (C.) 630-55; (3R.) 691, 731.
    • Machinery and Occupational Safety, (2R.) 533, 567; (C.) 659-90, 736-8; (3R.) 1004.
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2006-8.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Manpower, 7655, 7712.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (3R.) 13421.

BOTMA, Mr. M. C. (Walvis Bay)—

  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1509.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3626.
    • Sea Fisheries (A.), (2R.) 3872.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Internal Affairs, 7779; Environment Affairs, 698 (S.).
    • Referendum’s, (C.) 13140.

BREYTENBACH, Mr. W. N. (Kroonstad)—

  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1250, 1373.
    • Conditions of Employment (S.A. Transport Services), (2R.) 1602; (3R.) 1984.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2484; (C.) 2772.
    • Defence (A.), (3R.) 4117.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Justice and Prisons, 5559; Transport, 6200; Defence, 7450; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8389.
    • Transport Services Unauthorized Expenditure, (2R.) 9027.
    • Prisons (A.), (2R.) 11164; (C.) 11169.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 12438, 12767, 12769.

CLASE, Mr. P. J. (Virginia)—

  • Motion—
    • No Confidence, 271.
  • Bills—
    • Culture Promotion, (2R.) 2280; (3R.) 4154.
    • National Parks (A.), (2R.) 3015.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4597; (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5327; National Education, 6017, 6130; Foreign Affairs and Information, 6894; Co-operation and Development, 8721, 8857; Education and Training, 169 (S.); (3R.) 10644.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7284; (C.) 12274.
    • University of Port Elizabeth (Private A.), (2R.) 7725.
    • Universities (A.), (2R.) 9049; (C.) 9328, 9369-75, 9414; (3R.) 9554.
    • Occupational Diseases in Mines and Works (A.), (2R.) 10952; (C.) 11058.
    • Laws on Co-operation and Development (A.), (C.) 11019.

COETSEE, the Hon. H. J. (Bloemfontein West)—

  • [Minister of Justice]
  • Bills—
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4722; (C.) Votes—Justice and Prisons, 5478, 5521, 5564.
    • Inquests (A.), (2R.) 5368, 5372.
    • Criminal Law (A.), (2R.) 5374, 5420; (C.) 5802, 5811-4; (3R.) 5894.
    • Courts of Justice (A.), (2R.) 5430, 5435.
    • Animals Protection (A.), (2R.) 5435, 5441.
    • Advocate-General (A.), (2R.) 5443, 5448.
    • Attorneys (A.), (2R.) 5449, 5452; (C.) 5774.
    • Computer Evidence, (2R.) 5775, 5789.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7355; (C.) 12493.
    • Administration of Estates (A.), (2R.) 9841, 9859; (C.)9864.
    • Insolvency (A.), (2R.) 11068, 11076; (C.) 11079.
    • Attorneys (2A.), (2R.) 11079, 11092; (C.) 11157; (3R.) 11162.
    • Prisons (A.), (2R.) 11096, 11167; (C.) 11169; (3R.) 11170.
    • Admiralty Jurisdiction Regulation, (2R.) 11171, 13103; (C.) 13108-9.

COETZER, Mr. H. S. (East London North)—

  • Bills—
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C.) 2726, 2734.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Foreign Affairs and Information, 6810; Defence, 7545; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8414; Environment Affairs, 673 (S.).

CONRADIE, Mr. F. D. (Sundays River)—

  • Bills—
    • S.A. Transport Services Finances and Accounts, (2R.) 1683; (3R.) 2093.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2543; (C.) 2782.
    • Environment Conservation (A.), (C.) 4250.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—National Education, 6111; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8505; Industries, Commerce and Tourism, 481 (S.); Environment Affairs, 587 (S.).
    • Property Time-Sharing Control, (C.) 6504, 6513, 6529; (3R.) 8611.
    • Administration of Estates (A.), (2R.) 9847.
    • Physical Planning (A.), (2R.) 10022.
    • Provincial Affairs, (2R.) 10032.

CRONJÉ, the Hon. P. (Port Natal)—

  • [Deputy Minister of Welfare and of Community Development]
  • Motion—
    • Housing Strategy, 2940.
  • Bills—
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4533.
    • Professional Engineers (A.), (2R.) 8237, 8246.
    • Sectional Titles (A.), (2R.) 8247, 8285; (C.) 8593-607; (3R.) 8945.
    • Pension Laws (A.), (2R.) 10418, 10424; (C.) 10425-7.
    • Pensions (Supplementary), (2R.) 10427. Pensions (Second Supplementary), (2R.) 13595.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Health and Welfare, 361 (S.); Community Development, 857 (S.), 897 (S.).

CRONJÉ, Mr. P. C. (Greytown)—

  • Motions—
    • Transport Services of the RSA, 1825. Housing Strategy, 2931.
  • Bills—
    • Machinery and Occupational Safety, (C.) 665-90; (3R.) 1001.
    • Road Transportation (A.), (C.) 1043-58.
    • Perishable Products Export Control, (C.) 1125-8.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2490; (C.) 2806.
    • Sea Fisheries (A.), (2R.) 3868.
    • Defence (A.), (C.) 3977.
    • Mining Rights (A.), (2R.) 4967.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Transport, 6197; Manpower, 7674; Internal Affairs, 7884; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8418; Environment Affairs, 615 (S.); Community Development, 891 (S.).
    • National Roads (2A.), (2R.) 6476.
    • University of Durban-Westville, (2R.) 8973.
    • Universities (A.), (C.) 9429.
    • Advanced Technical Education (A.), (2R.) 9535.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 12270-93, 12380.
    • Referendum’s, (3R.) 13307.

CUNNINGHAM, Mr. J. H. (Stilfontein)—

  • Motion—
    • S.C. on conduct of Minister, 5642.
  • Bills—
    • Manpower Training (A.), (2R.) 444.
    • Coal, (2R.) 3528.
    • Electoral (A.), (2R.) 4372.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Mineral and Energy Affairs, 5741; Manpower, 7699; Commission for Administration, 7954; Health and Welfare, 382 (S.).
    • Referendum’s, (2R.) 13062.

CUYLER, Mr. W. J. (Roodepoort)—

  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (3R.) 1947.
    • Police (A.), (2R.) 2103; (C.) 2216; (3R.) 3086.
    • Explosives (A.), (2R.) 2147.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Internal Affairs, 7853; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8378, 8381; Police, 89 (S.).
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (Instruction) 11408; (C.) 12142-55.
    • Referendum’s, (C.) 13261.

DALLING, Mr. D. J. (Sandton)—

  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 278.
    • Sittings of the House, 11898.
  • Personal Explanation—
    • Withdrawal of Questions, 3810.
  • Bills—
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4526; (C.) Votes—Justice and Prisons, 5455, 5536; National Education, 6115; Foreign Affairs and Information, 6867, 6869; Internal Affairs, 7835; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8501; (3R.) 10562.
    • Inquests (A.), (2R.) 5368.
    • Criminal Law (A.), (2R.) 5377, 5383; (C.) 5793, 5804, 5809, 5814; (3R.) 5888.
    • Courts of Justice (A.), (2R.) 5431.
    • Animals Protection (A.), (2R.) 5437; (3R.) 5442.
    • Advocate-General (A.), (2R.) 5445.
    • Attorneys (A.), (2R.), 5450; (C.) 5774.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7126; (Instruction) 11372; (C.) 11690, 12469, 12507, 12887-909; (3R.) 13460.
    • Attorneys (2A.), (2R.) 11080.
    • Admiralty Jurisdiction Regulation, (2R.) 11174; (C.) 13109-10.

DE BEER, Mr. S. J. (Geduld)—

  • Bill—
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5306; Mineral and Energy Affairs, 5580, 5704.

DE JAGER, Mr. A. M. van A. (Kimberley North)—

  • Bills—
    • Marine Traffic (A.), (2R.) 983.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C.) 2789.
    • Culture Promotion, (2R.) 3273, 3412, 3413; (C.) 3808, 3820, 3835.
    • Education and Culture Laws (A.), (2R.) 3437.
    • Technikons (Education and Training), (A.), (2R.) 4924.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—National Education, 6030; Transport, 6173; Education and Training, 177 (S.); Environment Affairs, 585 (S.).
    • University of the Western Cape, (C.) 8990.
    • Universities (A.), (2R.) 9106.
    • Advanced Technical Education (A.), (2R.) 9473; (3R.) 9764.

DE KLERK, the Hon. F. W., D.M.S. (Vereeniging)—

  • [Minister of Internal Affairs]
  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 398.
    • Repeal of Prohibition of Political Interference Act, 2357.
    • Crude Oil Supplies for the RSA, 2626.
    • S.C. on conduct of Minister, 5591.
  • Bills—
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2027-32.
    • Electoral (A.), (2R.) 4365, 4374.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4551, 4552; (C.) Votes—Internal Affairs, 7802, 7863, 7916, 7931; Commission for Administration, 7957; (3R.) 10519.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7096; (C.) 12196, 12281; (3R.) 13556.
    • University of the Western Cape, (2R.) 8951, 8967; (C.) 8985-95.
    • University of Durban-Westville, (2R.) 8971, 8999; (C.) 9073-84.
    • Referendum’s, (2R.) 12965, 13069; (C.) 13150-286; (3R.) 13312.

DELPORT, Mr. W. H. (Newton Park)—

  • Motion—
    • Development of Urban Blacks Outside Black States, 1350.
  • Bills—
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (A.), (2R.) 2211, 2224.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2497.
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R.) 3186.
    • Attorneys (A.), (2R.) 5451.
    • Travel Agents and Travel Agencies, (2R.) 5874.
    • University of Port Elizabeth (Private A.), (2R.) 7721, 7730.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Co-operation and Development, 8714; Community Development, 789 (S.).
    • Attorneys (2A.), (2R.) 11087; (C.) 11161.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 12014.
  • Select Committee—
    • Third Report of S.C. on Co-operation and Development, 13360.

DE PONTES, Mr. P. (East London City)—

  • Bills—
    • Additional Post Office Appropriation, (2R.) 1576.
    • Police (A.), (2R.) 2109.
    • Post Office Appropriation, (3R.) 3378.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5334; Justice and Prisons, 5472, 5562; Police, 99 (S.); Community Development, 882 (S.).
    • Rhodes University (Private A.), (2R.) 7732.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 12039.

DE VILLIERS, Dr. the Hon. D. J. (Piketberg)—

  • [Minister of Industries, Commerce and Tourism]
  • Motion—
    • No confidence, 223.
  • Statement—
    • Rationalization of Tourism, 3135.
  • Bills—
    • Abolition of the Fuel Research Institute, (2R.) 3489, 3500.
    • Scientific Research Council (A.) (2R.) 3503, 3515.
    • S.A. Iron and Steel Industrial Corporation, Ltd. (A.), (2R.) 5902, 5915; (C.) 6235-42; (3R.) 6246.
    • Liquor (A.), (2R.) 5927, 5963; (3R.) 6251.
    • Maintenance and Promotion of Competition (A.), (2R.) 5976, 5999; (C.) 6253-5; (3R.) 6261.
    • S.A. Tourism Board, (2R.) 9692, 9796; (C.) 10782-818; (3R.) 10821.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Industries, Commerce and Tourism, 449 (S.), 534 (S.).

DU PLESSIS, the Hon. B. J. (Florida)—

  • [Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs and Information]
  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1382.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Foreign Affairs and Information, 6914.

DU PLESSIS, Mr. G. C. (Kempton Park)—

  • Motion—
    • Transport Services of the RSA, 1799.
  • Bills—
    • National Roads (A.), (2R.) 937; (C.) 1068; (3R.) 1547.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2446; (C.) 2710.
    • Post Office Appropriation, (C.) 3342.
    • Travel Agents and Travel Agencies, (2R.) 5868.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Transport, 6159; Industries, Commerce and Tourism, 527 (S.).
    • National Roads (2A.), (2R.) 6228.

DU PLESSIS, the Hon. P. T. C. (Lydenburg)—

  • [Minister of Mineral and Energy Affairs]
  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 359.
    • Crude Oil Supplies for the RSA, 2598, 2659.
  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1489; (3R.) 1894.
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2034-5.
    • Coal, (2R.) 3518, 3533; (C.) 3538-45.
    • Mining Rights (A.), (2R.) 4964, 4975; (3R.) 4977.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Mineral and Energy Affairs, 5680, 5756; (3R.) 10599, 10602.
    • Occupational Diseases in Mines and Works (A.), (2R.) 10942, 10964; (C.) 11062-8; (3R.) 13117.

DURR, Mr. K. D. S. (Maitland)—

  • Motion—
    • RSA’s Role in Developing Southern Africa, 2392.
  • Bills—
    • National Parks (A.), (2R.) 3001.
    • Environment Conservation (A.), (C.) 4259, 4265; (3R.) 4871.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5229; Foreign Affairs and Information, 6796; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8526; Environment Affairs, 650 (S.); Community Development, 875 (S.).
    • Housing (A.), (2R.) 6312.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7175; (Instruction) 11286; (C.) 11524-38.
    • Sectional Titles (A.), (2R.) 8281.

DU TOIT, the Hon. J. P. (Vryburg)—

  • [Speaker up to 14.2.83]
  • Announcements—
    • Illuminated Manuscript of the Words of Die Stem, 108.
    • Resignation as Speaker, 609.

EGLIN, Mr. C. W. (Sea Point)—

  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 283.
    • Promotion of Sound Relations Among Peoples, 1275.
    • RSA’s Role in Developing Southern Africa, 2376.
    • Housing Strategy, 2890.
    • Sittings of the House, 11923.
  • Bills—
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C.) 2821, 2832.
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (A.), (3R.) 3252.
    • Defence (A.), (C.) 4063-6.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4469; (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5285; National Education, 6135; Foreign Affairs and Information, 6696, 6828; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8464; Community Development, 809 (S.).
    • Housing (A.), (2R.) 6265.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (Introduction) 6366; (2R.) 7346; (C.) 11495, 11566, 11741-8, 11828, 12025, 12041, 12077, 12238, 12337-70, 12425, 12514-86, 12644-746, 12826, 12910; (3R.) 13586.
    • Sectional Titles (A.), (2R.) 8249.
    • Promotion of Local Government Affairs, (2R.) 8298; (C.) 10088, 10123, 10157.
    • Provincial Affairs, (2R.) 10031.

FICK, Mr. L. H. (Caledon)—

  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1527.
    • Plant Improvement (A.), (2R.) 4315.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4615; (C.) Votes—Internal Affairs, 7838; Agriculture, 8119; Environment Affairs, 692 (S.).
    • S.A. Tourism Board, (2R.) 9726.

FOUCHÉ, Mr. A. F. (Witbank)—

  • Bills—
    • Basic Conditions of Employment, (2R.) 509; (3R.) 707.
    • Transport Services Additional Appropriation, (C.) 1105.
    • Health (A.), (2R.)2202.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2572; (C.) 2824.
    • Rural Coloured Areas (A.), (2R.) 4897.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5167; Mineral and Energy Affairs, 5586, 5736; Internal Affairs, 7821; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8405; Health and Welfare, 352 (S.); Community Development, 750 (S.).
    • Housing (A.), (2R.) 6276.
    • Human Tissue, (2R.) 6412; (C.) 6437.
    • Indecent or Obscene Photographic Matter (A.), (2R.) 8235.
    • Sectional Titles (A.), (2R.) 8267; (C.) 8591-4; (3R.) 8933.
    • Promotion of Local Government Affairs, (2R.) 9893.
    • Pension Laws (A.), (2R.) 10421.
    • Referendum’s, (3R.) 13302.

FOURIE, Mr. A. (Turffontein)—

  • Motions—
    • Repeal of Prohibition of Political Interference Act, 2319.
    • Sittings of the House, 11893.
  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1402.
    • National Roads (A.), (3R.) 1552.
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (A.), (2R.) 2234.
    • Abolition of the Fuel Research Institute, (2R.) 3494.
    • Electoral (A.), (2R.) 4369.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4643; (C.) Votes—Foreign Affairs and Information, 6844; Internal Affairs, 7768; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8491; Co-operation and Development, 8759; Industries, Commerce and Tourism, 490 (S.); (3R.) 10458.
    • Indecent or Obscene Photographic Matter (A.), (2R.) 8233.
    • Advanced Technical Education (A.), (2R.) 9509.
    • S. A. Tourism Board, (2R.) 9705.
    • Promotion of Local Government Affairs, (2R.) 9930.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (Instruction) 11226; (C.) 11776, 12001, 12048, 12353, 12453, 12679-99.
    • Referendum’s, (2R.) 13015; (C.) 13197.

GASTROW, Mr. P. H. P. (Durban Central)—

  • Bills—
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2033-4.
    • Police (A.), (2R.) 2104; (C.) 2212, 2222.
    • Arms and Ammunition (A.), (2R.) 2152.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3775; (C.) 3909-19, 3963, 4075.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4656; (C.) Votes—Justice and Prisons, 5500; Mineral and Energy Affairs, 5746; Foreign Affairs and Information, 6839; Police, 117 (S.); Health and Welfare, 373 (S.); (3R.) 10503.
    • Inquests (A.), (2R.) 5371.
    • Criminal Law (A.), (2R.) 5416.
    • Computer Evidence, (2R.) 5777.
    • Child Care, (2R.) 6587; (C.) 8151-229.
    • Insolvency (A.), (2R.) 11069; (C.) 11078.
    • Prisons (A.), (2R.) 11097.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (Instruction) 11449; (C.) 12490, 12693-736.

GELDENHUYS, Mr. A. (Swellendam)—

  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1542.
    • Pharmacy (A.), (2R.) 2181.
    • National Parks (A.), (3R.) 3080.
    • Child Care, (2R.) 6593; (3R.) 8582.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7227.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Defence, 7497; Health and Welfare, 308 (S.); Environment Affairs, 659 (S.).
    • Referendum’s, (C.) 13201; (3R.) 13290.

GELDENHUYS, Dr. B. L. (Randfontein)—

  • Bills—
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3743; (3R.) 4125.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4689; (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5189; Defence, 7532; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8375; Health and Welfare, 283 (S.).
    • Child Care, (2R.) 6611; (3R.) 8581.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7162; (Instruction) 11254; (C.) 11604, 11688, 11989.
    • Occupational Diseases in Mines and Works (A.), (3R.) 13111.

GOLDEN, Dr. S. G. A. (Potgietersrus)—

  • Bill—
    • Post Office Appropriation, (C.) 3321.

GOODALL, Mr. B. B. (Edenvale)—

  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1522.
    • Public Accountants and Auditors (A.), (2R.) 1689.
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2021-50.
    • National Parks (A.), (C.) 3070; (3R.) 3073.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3593; (C.) 4044, 4065; (3R.) 4128.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4455; (C.) Votes—Finance and Audit, 6993, 7033; Defence, 7483; Health and Welfare, 321 (S.), 349 (S.); Industries, Commerce and Tourism, 501 (S.).
    • Income Tax, (2R.) 10359.
    • Pension Laws (A.), (2R.) 10421; (C.) 10426.
    • Pensions (Supplementary), (2R.) 10427.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (Instruction) 11230.

GREEFF, the Hon. J. W. (Aliwal)—

  • [Speaker w.e.f. 14.2.83]
  • Motion—
    • Election of Speaker, 895, 899.
  • Statement—
    • Answering of Questions on Behalf of Absent Ministers, 3810.
  • Announcement—
    • Presentation of Portrait of President Paul Kruger to Parliament by Boland Bank, 5675.

GROBLER, Dr. J. P. (Brits)—

  • Motion—
    • Housing Strategy, 2928.
  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (3R.) 1918.
    • Health (A.), (2R.) 2197.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4726; (C.) Votes—Foreign Affairs and Information, 6902; Defence, 7526; Manpower, 7643; Education and Training, 224 (S.); Health and Welfare, 256 (S.); Community Development, 894 (S.).
    • Housing (A.), (3R.) 6335.
    • Human Tissue, (2R.) 6382; (C.) 6444.
    • Child Care, (2R.) 6573; (3R.) 8571.
    • University of Durban-Westville, (C.) 9072.
    • Fund-Raising (A.), (2R.) 9179.
  • Select Committee—
    • First Report of S.C. on Pensions, 9733-5.

HARDINGHAM, Mr. R. W. (Mooi River)—

  • Motion—
    • Control of Inflation, 1861.
  • Bills—
    • Machinery and Occupational Safety, (2R.) 565; (C.) 664.
    • Additional Appropriation, (2R.) 2001; (C.) 2050.
    • National Parks (A.), (2R.) 3017; (C.) 3069; (3R.) 3079.
    • Forest (A.), (2R.)3452.
    • Environment Conservation (A.), (2R.) 3482; (C.) 4263.
    • Sea Fisheries (A.), (2R.) 3881.
    • Agricultural Pests, (2R.) 3899, 4267.
    • Dairy Industry (A.), (2R.) 4292; (C.) 4300.
    • Plant Breeders’ Rights (A.), (2R.) 4310.
    • Plant Improvement (A.), (2R.) 4318.
    • Agricultural Credit (A.), (2R.) 4333, 4801.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4670; (C.) Votes—Co-operation and Development, 8709, 8743; Environment Affairs, 564 (S.).
    • Conservation of Agricultural Resources, (2R.) 4828; (C.) 4853.

HARTZENBERG, Dr. the Hon. F. (Lichtenburg)—

  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 377.
    • Tribute to Speaker, 891.
    • Sittings of the House, 11909.
  • Statement—
    • Referendum on Constitution, 4285.
  • Bills—
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (A.), (C.) 3104-16; (3R.) 3220, 3222.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4488; (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5089, 5345; Agriculture, 8077; Co-operation and Development, 8659; Education and Training, 165 (S.); (3R.) 10693.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7290; (C.) 11526-54; (3R.) 13427.

HAYWARD, the Hon. S. A. S. (Graaff-Reinet)—

  • [Minister of Environment Affairs and Fisheries]
  • Motion—
    • S.C. on conduct of Minister, 5605.
  • Statement—
    • Current drought situation, 4335.
  • Bills—
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2049-50.
    • National Parks (A.), (2R.) 2575, 3021; (C.) 3066; 3071; (3R.) 3082.
    • Forest (A.), (2R.) 3448, 3455; (C.) 3457.
    • Environment Conservation (A.), (2R.) 3458.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5263; Environment Affairs, 568 (S.), 622 (S.), 668 (S.), 705 (S.); (3R.) 10556.
    • Rand Water Board Statutes (Private A.), (2R.) 10067, 10077; (C.) 10082.
  • Select Committee—
    • Report of S.C. on State-Owned Land, 13366.

HEFER, Mr. W. J. (Standerton)—

  • Bills—
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (A.), (2R.) 593.
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1451.
    • Culture Promotion, (2R.) 2302; (C.) 3837.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3565, 3574; (C.) 3907; (3R.) 4111.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5221; Defence, 7429; Agriculture, 8007; Co-operation and Development, 8756; Education and Training, 183 (S.).
    • University of Cape Town (Private A.), (2R.) 7743.
    • University of the Western Cape, (G.) 8993.
    • Universities (A.), (2R.) 9206; (C.) 9332, 9366.
    • Advanced Technical Education (A.), (2R.) 9440; (C.) 9624; (3R.) 9744.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (3R.) 13455.

HEINE, Mr. W. J. (Umfolozi)—

  • Bills—
    • Perishable Products Export Control, (2R.) 977.
    • Defence (A.), (C.) 4071.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5341; Defence, 7573.
    • Criminal Law (A.), (2R.) 5404.

HEUNIS the Hon. J. C., D.M.S. (Helderberg)—

  • [Minister of Constitutional Development and Planning]
  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 197, 199.
    • Constitutional Ordering of the Republic, 822.
    • Promotion of Sound Relations among Peoples, 1299.
    • Crude Oil Supplies for the RSA, 2610.
  • Bills—
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4781, 4783; (C.) Votes—Constitutional Development and Planning, 8428, 8433, 8468, 8540.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (Introduction) 6363, 6377; (2R.) 7045, 7361, 7365; (Instructions) 11349, 11472; (C.) 11505, 11520, 11550-96, 11613-700, 11716-48, 11810, 11858, 11952-12087, 12127-62, 12210, 12298-372, 12415-66, 12499, 12550-612, 12624-753, 12780-909, 12912-56; (3R.) 13594, 13597.
    • Promotion of Local Government Affairs, (2R.) 8288, 9965; (C.) 10096-10165; (3R.) 10204, 10212.
    • Physical Planning (A.), (2R.) 10013, 10026.
    • Provincial Affairs, (2R.) 10028, 10034.

HEYNS, Mr. J. H. (Vasco)—

  • Bills—
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4415; (C.) Votes—Transport, 6180; Foreign Affairs and Information, 6836; Finance and Audit, 6961; Industries, Commerce and Tourism, 408 (S.); Community Development, 797 (S.).
    • Paarl Mountain (A.), (2R.) 4953.
    • Property Time-Sharing Control, (2R.) 5835.
    • Maintenance and Promotion of Competition (A.), (3R.) 6260.
    • Revenue Laws (A.), (2R.) 10251.
    • Income Tax, (2R.) 10355.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 12760.

HOON, Mr. J. H. (Kuruman)—

  • Motions—
    • RSA’s role in developing Southern Africa, 2385.
    • Sittings of the House, 11883, 12103.
  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1495.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2523; (3R.) 2981.
    • Post Office Appropriation, (C.) 3348.
    • Forest (A.), (2R.) 3451.
    • Environment Conservation (A.), (2R.) 3467; (C.) 4252; (3R.) 4874.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3750.
    • Culture Promotion, (C.) 3849; (3R.) 4160.
    • Sea Fisheries (A.), (2R.) 3871.
    • Dairy Industry (A.), (2R.) 4282.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4633, 4641; (C.) Votes—Parliament, 5058; Prime Minister, 5307; National Education, 6106; Transport, 6190; Foreign Affairs and Information, 6799; Manpower, 7694, 7695; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8519; Co-operation and Development, 8699.
    • Wine and Spirit Control (A.), (2R.) 4864.
    • Rural Coloured Areas (A.), (2R.) 4895.
    • Coloured Farmers Assistance (A.), (2R.) 4910.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (Introduction) 6369; (C.) 11575-83, 11608, 12011-9, 12908; (3R.) 13472.
    • Universities (A.), (2R.) 9212; (C.) 9431.
    • Promotion of Local Government Affairs, (2R.) 9943, 9950.
    • Physical Planning (A.), (2R.) 10021. Universities and Technikons Advisory Council, (3R.) 10764.
    • Laws on Co-operation and Development (A.), (2R.) 10888; (C.) 11002.
    • Occupational Diseases in Mines and Works (A.), (2R.) 10954.
    • Referendum’s, (C.) 13129-266; (3R.) 13295.

HORWOOD, Prof, the Hon. O. P. F., D.M.S.—

  • [Minister of Finance]
  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1151, 1693; (3R.) 1893, 1962.
    • Public Accountants and Auditors (A.), (2R.) 1689.
    • Additional Appropriation, (2R.) 1987, 2002; (C.) 2004-5, 2021-6, 2042, 2051.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4184, 4798, 5033; (C.) Votes—Finance and Audit, 6929, 6996, 7038; (3R.) 10428, 10706.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7269; (3R.) 13407.
    • Finance, (2R.) 10282, 10319; (C.) 10325-34.

HUGO, Mr. P. B. B. (Ceres)—

  • Bills—
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4629; (C.) Votes—Agriculture, 8000; Industries, Commerce and Tourism, 434 (S.); Environment Affairs, 604 (S.).
    • Wine and Spirit Control (A.), (2R.) 4860.
    • Liquor (A.), (2R.) 5947.
    • Maintenance and Promotion of Competition (A.), (2R.) 5988.

HULLEY, Mr. R. R. (Constantia)—

  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1456.
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2048.
    • National Parks (A.), (2R.) 2577, 2999; (C.) 3063, 3070.
    • Post Office Appropriation, (C.) 3324.
    • Environment Conservation (A.), (2R.) 3458; (C.) 4256.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3756.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5247; Mineral and Energy Affairs, 5713, 5732; Industries, Commerce and Tourism, 485 (S.); Environment Affairs, 549 (S.), 639 (S.).
    • Rand Water Board Statutes (Private A.), (2R.) 10068; (C.) 10082.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 11796, 11852, 12034-5, 12089, 12565-93, 12639-59.
    • Referendum’s, (C.) 13285.

JORDAAN, Mr. A. L. (False Bay)—

  • Bills—
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2504, 2507; (C.) 2818.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Co-operation and Development, 8696.

KLEYNHANS, Mr. J. W. (Algoa)—

  • Bills—
    • Bethelsdorp Settlement (A.), (2R.) 4937.
    • S.A. Iron and Steel Industrial Corporation, Ltd. (A.), (3R.) 6244.
    • Promotion of Local Government Affairs, (2R.) 8307.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 12686.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Police, 26 (S.); Community Development, 888 (S.).

KOORNHOF, Dr. the Hon. P. G. J., D.M.S. (Primrose)—

  • [Minister of Co-operation and Development]
  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 158.
    • Uprooting of Black Communities, 838.
    • Development of Urban Blacks Outside Black States, 1361.
  • Bills—
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2009-17.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Parliament, 5064; Co-operation and Development, 8625, 8763, 8773, 8837, 8875.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7075; (3R.) 13390.
    • Laws on Co-operation and Development (A.), (2R.) 10730, 10918; (C.) 10971-11052; (3R.) 11147.

KOTZÉ, the Hon. G. J. (Malmesbury)—

  • [Deputy Minister of Agriculture]
  • Bills—
    • Agricultural Credit (A.), (2R.) 4321, 4802; (3R.) 4809.
    • Conservation of Agricultural Resources, (2R.) 4811, 4839; (C.) 4844, 4851; (3R.) 4856.
    • Wine and Spirit Control (A.), (2R.) 4857, 4867; (C.) 4869.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Agriculture, 8044, 8045, 8074, 8121.

KOTZÉ, the Hon. S. F. (Parow)—

  • [Minister of Community Development]
  • Bills—
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4501; (C.) Votes—Community Development, 731 (S.), 766 (S.), 836 (S.), 839 (S.), 900 (S.).
    • Housing (A.), (2R.) 6263, 6321; (3R.) 6336.
    • Community Development (A.), (2R.) 6337, 6347.

KRITZINGER, Mr. W. T.—

  • Bills—
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Internal Affairs, 7776.
    • Referendum’s, (C.) 13187.

LANDMAN, Mr. W. J. (Carletonville)—

  • Bills—
    • Manpower Training (A.), (2R.) 447.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Manpower, 7692; Co-operation and Development, 8725.
    • Occupational Diseases in Mines and Works (A.), (2R.) 10959; (C.) 11061; (3R.) 13116.

LANGLEY, Mr. T. (Waterkloof)—

  • Motion—
    • Promotion of Sound Relations among Peoples, 1291, 1298.

LE GRANGE, the Hon. L., D.M.S. (Potchefstroom)—

  • [Minister of Law and Order]
  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 344.
    • Fatal Shooting by S. A. Police, 2592.
  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1418.
    • Police (A.), (2R.) 1692, 2121; (C.) 2220-3; (3R.) 3090.
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2035-6.
    • Explosives (A.), (2R.) 2142, 2148.
    • Arms and Ammunition (A.), (2R.) 2149, 2165.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Justice and Prisons, 5493; Police, 1 (S.), 37 (S.), 76 (S.), 134 (S.); (3R.) 10699.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7302; (3R.) 13433.

LEMMER, Mr. W. A. (Schweizer-Reneke)—

  • Bills—
    • Post Office Appropriation, (C.) 3334.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4675; (C.) Votes—Agriculture, 8027.
    • Conservation of Agricultural Resources, (2R.) 4824.
    • Criminal Law (A.), (2R.) 5395.
    • Animals Protection (A.), (2R.) 5440.

LE ROUX, Mr. D. E. T. (Uitenhage)—

  • Motion—
    • S.C. on Conduct of Minister, 5627.
  • Bills—
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C.) 2810.
    • National Parks (A.), (3R.) 3075.
    • Sea Fisheries (A.), (2R.) 3869.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5290; National Education, 6059, 6117; Environment Affairs, 682 (S.).
    • University of the Western Cape, (2R.) 8961.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (Instruction) 11428; (C.) 12795.

LE ROUX, Mr. F. J. (Brakpan)—

  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 167.
    • Crude Oil Supplies for the RSA, 2619.
    • Manpower Training, 2852.
    • S.C. on Conduct of Minister, 5590, 5662.
    • Sittings of the House, 11944.
  • Bills—
    • Labour Relations (A.), (2R.) 465; (C.) 575.
    • Machinery and Occupational Safety, (2R.) 542; (C.) 655-90, 735-9.
    • Basic Conditions of Employment, (C.) 648-53; (3R.) 698.
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2007, 2034.
    • Post Office (A.), (2R.) 3403.
    • Education and Culture Laws (A.), (2R.) 3437.
    • Environment Conservation (A.), (C.) 4182, 4248, 4263.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4714; (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5192, 5294; Justice and Prisons, 5551; Mineral and Energy Affairs, 5583; Foreign Affairs and Information, 6738, 6878; Manpower, 7623; Co-operation and Development, 8864; Environment Affairs, 701 (S.).
    • Paarl Mountain (A.), (2R.) 4949.
    • Mining Rights (A.), (2R.) 4971.
    • Inquests (A.), (2R.) 5369.
    • Criminal Law (A.), (2R.) 5392.
    • Courts of Justice (A.), (2R.) 5431.
    • Animals Protection (A.), (2R.) 5439.
    • Advocate-General (A.), (2R.) 5446.
    • Attorneys (A.), (2R.) 5452.
    • Patents (A.), (2R.) 6692.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7246; (Instruction) 11388; (C.) 11498, 11558-63, 11728-57, 11848, 11985-12016, 12057-88, 12156, 12172, 12277, 12326-95, 12454, 12497-520, 12595, 12631-758, 12770-823, 12883-906; (3R.) 13384.
    • Universities (A.), (2R.) 9132.
    • Promotion of Local Government Affairs, (2R.) 9885; (C.) 10153.
    • Laws on Co-operation and Development (A.), (C.) 10993, 11031.
    • Occupational Diseases in Mines and Works (A.), (C.) 11054-67.
    • Referendum’s, (C.) 13275.

LE ROUX, Mr. Z. P. (Pretoria West)—

  • Motion—
    • Development of Urban Blacks Outside Black States, 1342.
  • Bills—
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (A.), (3R.) 3231.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3644; (C.) 3932, 3994, 4050.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Justice and Prisons, 5504; Co-operation and Development, 8650, 8809; Education and Training, 210 (S.).
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7203; (Instruction) 11239; (C.) 11529, 12234.
    • Laws on Co-operation and Development (A.), (2R.) 10832, 10833; (C.) 10975, 11034; (3R.) 11114.
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (2A.), (2R.) 13331.
  • Select Committee—
    • Third Report of S.C. on Co-operation and Development, 13354, 13363.

LIGTHELM, Mr. C. J. (Alberton)—

  • Motion—
    • Manpower Training, 2834.
  • Bills—
    • Manpower Training (A.), (2R.) 441.
    • Abolition of the Fuel Research Institute, (2R.) 3496.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Manpower, 7649.

LIGTHELM, Mr. N. W. (Middelburg)—

  • Bills—
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3753.
    • Agricultural Pests, (2R.) 3891.
    • Plant Breeders’ Rights (A.), (2R.) 4306.
    • Plant Improvement (A.), (2R.) 4317.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Defence, 7488; Health and Welfare, 327 (S.).
    • Fund-Raising (A.), (2R.) 9190.
    • Income Tax, (2R.) 10345.

LLOYD, Mr. J. J. (Roodeplaat)—

  • Motion—
    • Transport Services of the RSA, 1788.
  • Bills—
    • Labour Relations (A.), (2R.) 458; (3R.) 612.
    • Basic Conditions of Employment, (C.) 650; (3R.) 724.
    • Machinery and Occupational Safety, (C.) 666-81; (3R.) 998.
    • Road Transportation (A.), (2R.) 916; (C.) 1021-61.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Transport, 6164; Foreign Affairs and Information, 6832; Manpower, 7617.
    • National Roads (2A.), (2R.) 6457; (C.) 9015.
    • Laws on Co-operation and Development (A.), (C.) 11032.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 12017, 12724.
    • Admiralty Jurisdiction Regulation, (2R.) 13100.

LOUW, the Hon. E. van der M. (Namakwaland)—

  • [Deputy Minister of Finance]
  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 43.
    • Control of Inflation, 1881.
  • Bills—
    • Public Accountants and Auditors (A.), (2R.) 1691.
    • Land Bank (A.), (2R.) 4338, 4363.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4477; (C.) Votes—Finance and Audit, 6975; Amendments, 8898.
    • Customs and Excise (A.), (2R.) 10034, 10055; (C.) 10060-7.
    • Revenue Laws (A.), (2R.) 10082, 10257.
    • Income Tax, (2R.), 10266, 10367.
    • Sales Tax (A.), (2R.) 10374, 10410; (C.) 10414-7; (3R.) 10418.

LOUW, Mr. M. H. (Queenstown)—

  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1531.
    • Agricultural Credit (A.), (2R.) 4332.
    • Conservation of Agricultural Resources, (3R.) 4855.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Agriculture, 8011; Police, 132 (S.); Environment Affairs, 612 (S.).

MALAN, Gen. the Hon. M. A. de M. (Modderfontein)—

  • [Minister of Defence]
  • Motion—
    • No Confidence, 312.
  • Statement—
    • Bomb Explosion in Pretoria and Air Attack on ANC Targets in Maputo, 7605.
  • Bills—
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3545, 3788; (C.) 3904-5, 4006-13, 4033-86; (3R.) 4102, 4143.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Defence, 7409, 7436, 7535, 7556, 7602.

MALAN, Mr. W. C. (Randburg)—

  • Motion—
    • No Confidence, 98.
  • Bills—
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (A.), (3R.) 3215.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3763.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7239; (Instruction) 11330; (C.) 11846, 11994, 12024, 12055, 12530, 12667-739, 12839-50; (3R.) 13538.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Manpower, 7677; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8475; (3R.) 10569.
    • Laws on Co-operation and Development (A.), (2R.) 10883; (C.) 10981.
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (2A.), (2R.) 13340.

MALCOMESS, Mr. D. J. N. (Port Elizabeth Central)—

  • Motions—
    • Transport Services of the RSA, 1792.
    • Crude Oil Supplies for the RSA, 2601.
  • Bills—
    • Road Transportation (A.), (2R.) 911.
    • National Roads (A.), (2R.) 932; (C.) 1062, 1073, 1118, 1120; (3R.) 1546.
    • Transport Services Additional Appropriation, (C.) 1098.
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1513.
    • S.A. Transport Services Finances and Accounts, (C.) 1770-8.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2511; (C.) 2756.
    • Abolition of the Fuel Research Institute, (2R.) 3491.
    • Scientific Research Council (A.), (2R.) 3504.
    • Coal, (2R.) 3520; (C.) 3537-43.
    • Dairy Industry (A.), (2R.) 4275; (C.) 4299-301.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5225; Mineral and Energy Affairs, 5576, 5697; Internal Affairs, 7828, 7830; Police, 110 (S.); Industries, Commerce and Tourism, 429 (S.); Environment Affairs, 600 (S.);(3R.) 10593.
    • Universities (A.), (C.) 9356, 9426-32.
    • Revenue Laws (A.), (2R.) 10245.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 11520.

MALHERBE, Mr. G. J. (Wellington)—

  • Bills—
    • Plant Breeders’ Rights (A.), (2R.) 4308.
    • Wine and Spirit Control (A.), (2R.) 4864.
    • Liquor (A.), (2R.) 5957.
    • Maintenance and Promotion of Competition (A.), (3R.) 6257.
    • National Roads (2A.), (2R.) 6473, 6475.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Internal Affairs, 7789; Agriculture, 8100; Health and Welfare, 376 (S.); Industries, Commerce and Tourism, 516 (S.); Environment Affairs, 598 (S.).

MARAIS, Dr. G. (Waterkloof)—

  • Motion—
    • Control of Inflation, 1870.
  • Bills—
    • Machinery and Occupational Safety, (2R.) 546.
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R.) 3173.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Industries, Commerce and Tourism, 421 (S).

MARAIS, Mr. P. G. (Stellenbosch)—

  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1429.
    • Explosives (A.), (2R.) 2144.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4777; (C.) Votes—National Education, 6082; Police, 120 (S.).
    • Property Time-Sharing Control, (2R.) 5829.
    • Liquor (A.), (2R.) 5934.
    • Universities (A.), (2R.) 9137; (3R.) 9575.
    • Revenue Laws (A.), (2R.) 10235.

MARÉ, Mr. P. L. (Nelspruit)—

  • Bills—
    • Forest (A.), (2R.) 3454.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Justice and Prisons, 5498; Agriculture, 8094; Health and Welfare, 371 (S.).
    • Property Time-Sharing Control, (C.) 6534; (3R.) 8616.
    • Child Care, (2R.) 6622.
    • Insolvency (A.), (2R.) 11073.
    • Admiralty Jurisdiction Regulation, (2R.) 11178; (C.) 13109.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (Instruction) 11395, 11398.

MAREE, Mr. M. D. (Parys)—

  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1441.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3785; (C.) 3913.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Defence, 7600; Agriculture, 8031.

McINTOSH, Mr. G. B. D. (Pietermaritzburg North)—

  • Bills—
    • Conditions of Employment (S.A. Transport Services), (2R.) 989, 1130; (C.) 1730-49; (3R) 1972.
    • Transport Services Additional Appropriation, (C.) 1109.
    • S.A. Transport Services (A.), (C.) 1755, 1756; (3R.) 1759.
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2014-9.
    • S.A. Transport Services Finances and Accounts, (3R.) 2089.
    • Police (A.), (2R.) 2112.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2550; (C.) 2717.
    • Defence (A.), (C.) 3917, 3985, 3997, 4079.
    • Agricultural Credit (A.), (3R.) 4807.
    • Paarl Mountain (A.), (2R.) 4943.
    • Community Development (A.), (2R.) 6338.
    • Child Care, (2R.) 6619.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Agriculture, 8097; Community Development, 735 (S.).
    • Disposal of Common Pasturage Areas, (2R.) 8903; (C.) 8924-5.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 12466.

MEIRING, Mr. J. W. H. (Paarl)—

  • Motion—
    • Control of Inflation, 1847.
  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1199.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4460, 4464; (C.) Votes—National Education, 6074; Foreign Affairs and Information, 6824; Finance and Audit, 7021; Agriculture, 8104; Health and Welfare, 315 (S.); Industries, Commerce and Tourism, 509 (S.).
    • Paarl Mountain (A.), (2R.) 4945.
    • Property Time-Sharing Control, (2R.) 5818; (C.) 6522-9; (3R.) 8619.
    • Copyright (A.), (2R.) 6650; (C.) 6674; (3R.) 6684.
    • University of the Western Cape, (2R.) 8955.
    • Coloured Persons Education (A.), (2R.) 9828.
    • Customs and Excise (A.), (2R.) 10049.
    • Finance, (2R.) 10313; (C.) 10332.

MENTZ, Mr. J. H. W. (Vryheid)—

  • Bills—
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (A.), (2R.) 601; (C.) 3121.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3677.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4651; (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5251; Foreign Affairs and Information, 6814; Defence, 7469; Agriculture, 8017; Co-operation and Development, 8711, 8850; Education and Training, 217 (S.); (3R.) 10653.
    • Laws on Co-operation and Development (A.), (2R.) 10899.

MEYER, Mr. R. P. (Johannesburg West)—

  • Motion—
    • Housing Strategy, 2921.
  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (3R.) 1937.
    • Culture Promotion, (2R.) 2287.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—National Education, 6068; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8386; Education and Training, 231 (S.).
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7253; (C.) 12058, 12518-48, 12606, 12646, 12762, 12777, 12831, 12899-903.
    • Universities (A.), (2R.) 9224.
    • Universities and Technikons Advisory Council, (2R.) 9618.
    • Rand Afrikaans University (Private A.), (2R.) 13121, 13124.

MEYER, Mr. W. D. (Humansdorp)—

  • Bills—
    • Forest (A.), (2R.) 3450.
    • Defence (A.), (C.) 4025.
    • Dairy Industry (A.), (2R.) 4283, 4286.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Agriculture, 8085.

MILLER, Mr. R. B. (Durban North)—

  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 390.
    • Promotion of Sound Relations among Peoples, 1283.
    • Crude Oil Supplies for the RSA, 2633.
    • Manpower Training, 2865.
  • Bills—
    • Manpower Training (A.), (2R.) 445; (C.) 574.
    • Labour Relations (A.), (2R.) 472; (C.) 574; (3R.) 620.
    • Basic Conditions of Employment, (2R.) 512; (C.) 632-43.
    • Machinery and Occupational Safety, (2R.) 550; (3R.) 997.
    • Conditions of Employment (S.A. Transport Services), (2R.) 1607; (C.) 1732-47; (3R.) 2052.
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2005-8.
    • Culture Promotion, (2R.) 2292; (C.) 3833-6.
    • Education and Culture Laws (A.), (2R.) 3438.
    • Abolition of the Fuel Research Institute, (2R.) 3498.
    • Scientific Research Council (A.), (2R.) 3512.
    • Coal, (2R.) 3531.
    • Defence (A.), (C.) 3965, 4076.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4512; (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5209; Mineral and Energy Affairs, 5589, 5675, 5724; National Education, 6032, 6123; Manpower, 7635; Community Development, 825 (S.); (3R.) 10624.
    • Mining Rights (A.), (2R.) 4973; (3R.) 4976.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7313; (Instruction) 11274; (C.) 12344.
    • University of Port Elizabeth (Private A.), (2R.) 7726.
    • University of Cape Town (Private A.), (2R.) 7745.
    • University of Natal (Private A.), (2R.) 8147.
    • National Roads (2A.), (C.) 9009.
    • S.A. Transport Services Unauthorized Expenditure, (2R.) 9026.
    • Universities (A.), (2R.) 9096; (C.) 9334, 9365, 9404, 9406; (3R.) 9560.
    • Advanced Technical Education (A.), (2R.) 9462; (C.) 9627-35; (3R.) 9754.
    • Universities and Technikons Advisory Council, (2R.) 9656, 9658; (C.) 9787; (3R.) 10758.
    • S.A. Tourism Board, (2R.) 9722. Promotion of Local Government Affairs, (2R.) 9900.
    • Occupational Diseases in Mines and Works (A.), (2R.) 10961; (C.) 11060.

MOORCROFT, Mr. E. K. (Albany)—

  • Motion—
    • Uprooting of Black Communities, 874.
  • Bills—
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (A.), (2R.) 605, 2209; (3R.) 3237.
    • Additional Appropriation, (2R.) 2001.
    • Forest (A.), (2R.) 3449.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4772; (C.) Votes—Agriculture, 7981; Cooperation and Development, 8819; Education and Training, 202 (S.); Environment Affairs, 591 (S.), 676 (S.).
    • Conservation of Agricultural Resources, (2R.) 4813; (3R.) 4855.
    • Rhodes University (Private A.), (2R.) 7731, 7739.

MORRISON, Dr. the Hon. G. de V. (Cradock)—

  • [Deputy Minister of Co-operation]
  • Motion—
    • Development of Urban Blacks Outside Black States, 1327.
  • Bill—
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Co-operation and Development, 8686, 8861.
  • Select Committee—
    • First Report of S.C. on Co-operation and Development, 10727.

MUNNIK, Dr. the Hon. L. A. P. A., D.M.S. (Durbanville)—

  • [Minister of Posts and Telecommunications]
  • Bills—
    • Additional Post Office Appropriation, (2R.) 1557, 1581; (3R.) 1596.
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R.) 3042, 3203, 3277; (C.) 3353; (3R.) 3383.
    • Post Office (A.), (2R.) 3396, 3409.

MYBURGH, Mr. P. A. (Wynberg)—

  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 362.
    • RSA’s role in Developing Southern Africa, 2401.
  • Bills—
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2052.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3550; (Instruction) 3901; (C.) 3902-12, 3972, 4021, 4050-8; (3R.) 4106.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Defence, 7420, 7542, 7603; Agriculture, 8053.

NEL, Mr. D. J. L. (Pretoria Central)—

  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 63.
    • RSA’s role in Developing Southern Africa, 2368.
    • Crude Oil Supplies for the RSA, 2648.
    • Sittings of the House, 11873.
  • Bills—
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7215; (Instruction) 11197; (C.) 11794.
    • Appropriation, (3R.) 10543.
    • Laws on Co-operation and Development (A.), (C.) 10995, 11029; (3R.) 11133.

NIEMANN, Mr. J. J. (Kimberley South)—

  • Bills—
    • Compulsory Motor Vehicle Insurance (A.), (2R.) 742.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (3R.) 2984.
    • National Parks (A.), (2R.) 3020.
    • Post Office Appropriation, (C.) 3352.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Mineral and Energy Affairs, 5710; Internal Affairs, 7897.
    • Referendum’s, (2R.) 13046; (C.) 13147, 13219.

NOTHNAGEL, Mr. A. E. (Innesdal)—

  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 172.
    • Development of Urban Blacks Outside Black States, 1309.
    • Repeal of Prohibition of Political Interference Act, 2340.
    • Housing Strategy, 2936.
  • Bills—
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4572; (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5122; Foreign Affairs and Information, 6803; Internal Affairs, 7754; Commission for Administration, 7939, 7950; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8367; Co-operation and Development, 8802; Industries, Commerce and Tourism, 441 (S.); (3R.) 10472.
    • Coloured Farmers Assistance (A.), (2R.) 4906.
    • S.A. Iron and Steel Industrial Corporation, Ltd. (A.), (2R.) 5910.
    • Maintenance and Promotion of Competition (A.), (2R.) 5983.
    • University of Durban-Westville, (C.) 9065-77.
    • Laws on Co-operation and Development (A.), (2R.) 10907; (C.) 11000.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 11836, 11970.
    • Referendum’s, (2R.) 12994; (C.) 13134-65, 13233.

ODENDAAL, Dr. W. A.—

  • Bills—
    • Environment Conservation (A.), (2R.) 3463; (C.) 4255.
    • Scientific Research Council (A.), (2R.) 3508.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4757; (C.) Votes—Agriculture, 8037; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8498; Industries, Commerce and Tourism, 498 (S.); Environment Affairs, 607 (S.).
    • Conservation of Agricultural Resources, (2R.) 4831; (C.) 4850-1

OLIVIER, Prof. N. J. J.—

  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 251.
    • Constitutional Ordering of the Republic, 785.
    • Repeal of Prohibition of Political Interference Act, 2326.
  • Bills―
    • Basic Conditions of Employment, (2R.) 495; (C.) 628-49; (3R.) 693.
    • Part Appropriation, (3R.) 1934.
    • Culture Promotion, (2R.) 2305, 3123; (C.) 3809-11, 3826, 3851; (3R.) 4087.
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (A.), (3R.) 3208.
    • Defence (A.), (C.) 4017, 4028, 4036; (3R.) 4140.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4761; (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5201; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8392; Co-operation and Development, 8752; Education and Training, 180 (S.).
    • Bethelsdorp Settlement (A.), (2R.) 4932; (3R.) 4941.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7231; (C.) 11973, 12051-62, 12536, 12665-95, 12754-63, 12797; (3R.) 13532.
    • Universities (A.), (2R.) 9115; (C.) 9335, 9360-88; (3R.) 9566.
    • Advanced Technical Education (A.), (2R.) 9481, 9485; (C.) 9636-42; (3R.) 9767.
    • Universities and Technikons Advisory Council, (2R.) 9662; (C.) 9781-4; (3R.) 10737.
    • Physical Planning (A.), (2R.) 10018.
    • Laws on Co-operation and Development (A.), (2R.) 10871; (C.) 10978, 10995, 11040-51; (3R.) 11104.
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (2A.) (2R.) 13343.
  • Select Committee—
    • Third Report of S.C. on Co-operation and Development, 13351.

OLIVIER, Mr. P. J. S. (Fauresmith)—

  • Bills—
    • National Roads (A.), (3R.) 1551.
    • Environment Conservation (A.), (2R.) 3487, 3854.
    • Agricultural Pests, (2R.) 3897.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Agriculture, 8070; Environment Affairs, 594 (S.).

PAGE, Mr. B. W. B. (Umhlanga)—

  • Motions—
    • RSA’s role in Developing Southern Africa, 2397.
    • Fatal Shooting by S.A. Police, 2591.
    • S.C. on Conduct of Minister, 5624.
    • Sittings of the House, 11890, 12116.
  • Bills—
    • Additional Post Office Appropriation, (2R.) 1573.
    • Police (A.), (2R.) 2098; (C.) 2217; (3R.) 3039, 3084.
    • Explosives (A.), (2R.) 2148.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2538; (C.) 2763.
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R.) 3161; (C.) 3345; (3R.) 3374.
    • Post Office (A.), (2R.) 3405.
    • Defence (A.), (C.) 3941, 4013.
    • Electoral (A.), (2R.) 4373.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Parliament, 5063; Transport, 6182; Foreign Affairs and Information, 6756, 6890; Police, 22 (S.).
    • Travel Agents and Travel Agencies, (2R.) 5877.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (Introduction) 6375; (C.) 12664; (3R.) 13569.
    • National Roads (2A.), (2R.) 6449.
    • Rhodes University (Private A.), (2R.) 7734.
    • Fund-Raising (A.), (2R.) 9189.
    • Referendum’s, (2R.) 13000; (C.) 13128-46, 13193-287; (3R.) 13299.
    • Admiralty Jurisdiction Regulation, (2R.) 13099.
    • Rand Afrikaans University (Private A.), (2R.) 13124.

PITMAN, Mr. S. A. (Pinetown)—

  • Motion—
    • Fatal Shooting by S.A. Police, 2585.
  • Bills—
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2035-6.
    • Police (A.), (2R.) 2058.
    • Explosives (A.), (2R.) 2144.
    • Land Bank (A.), (2R.) 4361.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Police, 3 (S.), 130 (S.); (3R.) 10576.

POGGENPOEL, Mr. D. J. (Beaufort West)—

  • Bills—
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2547.
    • Defence (A.), (C.) 4032.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Defence, 7520; Agriculture, 8049; Police, 114 (S.).
    • Disposal of Common Pasturage Areas, (2R.) 8913.

PRETORIUS, Mr. N. J. (Umhlatuzana)—

  • Bills—
    • S.A. Transport Services (A.), (2R.) 1656.
    • Police (A.), (2R.) 2073, 2097.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Police, 106 (S.).

PRETORIUS, Mr. P. H. (Maraisburg)—

  • Bills—
    • Perishable Products Export Control, (2R.) 972.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—National Education, 6103; Transport, 6187; Defence, 7581; Co-operation and Development, 8705.

RAW, Mr. W. V. (Durban Point)—

  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 74.
    • Election of Speaker, 899.
    • Repeal of Prohibition of Political Interference Act, 2347, 2349.
    • Sittings of the House, 11941.
  • Statements—
    • Referendum on Constitution, 4286.
    • Bomb explosion in Pretoria and air attack on ANC targets in Maputo, 7607.
    • Price of Fuel, 11103.
    • Date and Question for the Referendum on the Constitution Bill, 11951.
  • Bills—
    • Transport Services Additional Appropriation, (C.) 1095.
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1482.
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2004, 2037-40.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C.) 2774.
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (A.), (3R.) 3244.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3615; (C.) 3910-4, 3990, 4054, 4072; (3R.) 4121.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5113, 5179, 5302, 5331; Foreign Affairs and Information, 6807; Defence, 7457, 7511, 7570, 7604; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8360, 8480, 8530; (3R.) 10465.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7108; (Instructions) 11217, 11399; (C.) 11494-502, 11541, 11608, 11747-69, 11806, 12038-46, 12145-57, 12181-202, 12331, 12390, 12450-60, 12483, 12527, 12573-81, 12631, 12734, 12780-808; (3R.) 13399.
    • Promotion of Local Government Affairs, (2R.) 9954; (C.) 10125.
    • Rand Water Board Statutes (Private A.), (2R.) 10076.

RENCKEN, Mr. C. R. E. (Benoni)—

  • Motion—
    • Manpower Training, 2847.
  • Bills—
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3604; (C.) 3949, 3970, 4026, 4052.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4578; (C.) Votes—Mineral and Energy Affairs, 5752; Foreign Affairs and Information, 6883; Defence, 7597; Manpower, 7688; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8397.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7115; (C.) 12400.

ROGERS, Mr. P. R. C. (King William’s Town)—

  • Motion—
    • No Confidence, 326.
    • Uprooting of Black Communities, 861.
    • Development of Urban Blacks Outside Black States, 1346.
  • Bills—
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (A.), (2R.) 597; (3R.) 3226.
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2012.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3770; (C.) 3980.
    • Conservation of Agricultural Resources, (C.) 4846-53; (3R.) 4856.
    • Wine and Spirit Control (A.), (2R.) 4867.
    • Technikons (Education and Training) (A.), (2R.) 4927.
    • Bethelsdorp Settlement (A.), (2R.) 4940.
    • Paarl Mountain (A.), (2R.) 4953.
    • Inquests (A.), (2R.) 5370.
    • Criminal Law (A.), (2R.) 5398; (C.) 5798.
    • Courts of Justice (A.), (2R.) 5434.
    • Animals Protection (A.), (2R.) 5440.
    • Advocate-General (A.), (2R.) 5447.
    • Attorneys (A.), (2R.) 5452.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Justice and Prisons, 5475, 5557; Defence, 7529; Internal Affairs, 7893; Agriculture, 8004; Co-operation and Development, 8671, 8814; Police, 123 (S.); Education and Training, 174 (S.); Environment Affairs, 688 (S.).
    • Computer Evidence, (2R.) 5782.
    • Disposal of Common Pasturage Areas, (2R.) 8916; (C.) 8926.
    • Advanced Technical Education (A.), (2R.) 9516.
    • Universities and Technikons Advisory Council (C.) 9786-9.
    • Administration of Estates (A.), (2R.) 9855.
    • Laws on Co-operation and Development (A.), (2R.) 10857; (C.) 10984, 11043;(3R.) 11138.
    • Insolvency (A.), (2R.) 11075.
    • Attorneys (2A.), (2R.) 11091.
    • Prisons (A.), (2R.) 11165.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 12752.
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (2A.), (2R.) 13338.
  • Select Committees—
    • First Report of S.C. on Co-operation and Development, 10727.
    • Third Report of S.C. on Co-operation and Development, 13361.

SAVAGE, Mr. A. (Walmer)—

  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 370.
    • Control of Inflation, 1855.
    • Housing Strategy, 2907.
  • Bills—
    • Machinery and Occupational Safety, (2R.) 536; (C.) 669-87; (3R.) 990.
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1221.
    • Additional Appropriation, (2R.) 1991; (C.) 2024.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2466; (C.) 2785.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4444; (C.) Votes—Finance and Audit, 6971, 6974; Co-operation and Development, 8846; Industries, Commerce and Tourism, 401 (S.); (3R.) 10636.
    • Technikons (Education and Training) (A.), (2R.) 4920.
    • S.A. Iron and Steel Industrial Corporation, Ltd. (A.), (2R.) 5903; (3R.) 6243.
    • Liquor (A.), (2R.) 5931.
    • Maintenance and Promotion of Competition (A.), (2R.) 5979; (C.) 6253-5; (3R.) 6255.
    • National Roads (2A.), (2R.) 6463; (C.) 9011.
    • Finance, (2R.) 10298; (C.) 10332.
    • Income Tax, (2R.) 10365.
    • Sales Tax (A.), (2R.) 10406.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (Instruction) 11259, 11266.

SCHOEMAN, the Hon. H., D.M.S. (Delmas)—

  • [Minister of Transport Affairs]
  • Motion—
    • Transport Services of the RSA, 1832.
  • Bills—
    • Compulsory Motor Vehicle Insurance (A.), (2R.) 739, 745.
    • Road Transportation (A.), (2R.) 748, 922; (C.) 1013-60; (3R.) 1117.
    • National Roads (A.), (2R.) 929, 954; (C.) 1069, 1074, 1120; (3R.) 1554.
    • Perishable Products Export Control, (2R.) 960, 978; (C.) 1122-8; (3R.) 1129.
    • Marine Traffic (A.), (2R.) 980, 987.
    • Conditions of Employment (S.A. Transport Services), (2R.) 987, 1641; (C.) 1720-48; (3R.) 2054.
    • Transport Services Additional Appropriation, (2R.) 1076, 1090; (C.) 1093-111.
    • S.A. Transport Services (A.), (2R.) 1652, 1663; (C.) 1750-8.
    • S.A. Transport Services Finances and Accounts, (2R.) 1667, 1685; (C.) 1761-86; (3R.) 2096.
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2018-21.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2076, 2575, 2670, 2689; (C.) 2743, 2949; (3R.) 2997.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Transport, 6203.
    • National Roads (2A.), (2R.) 6217, 6492; (C.) 9018.
    • Transport Services Unauthorized Expenditure, (2R.) 9020, 9027.
    • Finance, (2R.) 10307.

SCHOEMAN, Mr. J. C. B. (North Rand)—

  • Motion—
    • No Confidence, 353.
  • Bills—
    • Perishable Products Export Control, (2R.) 974.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5240; Justice and Prisons, 5511; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8509; (3R.) 10492.
    • Rand Afrikaans University (Private A.), (2R.) 13123.

SCHOEMAN, Mr. W. J. (Newcastle)—

  • Bills—
    • Labour Relations (A.), (2R.) 477.
    • Scientific Research Council (A.), (2R.) 3510.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Manpower, 7681; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8516.
    • Promotion of Local Government Affairs, (2R.) 8331, 9865.

SCHOLTZ, Mrs. E. M. (Germiston District)—

  • Bills—
    • Basic Conditions of Employment, (2R.) 519.
    • Culture Promotion, (2R.) 2286.
    • Technikons (Education and Training) (A.), (2R.) 4926.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Manpower, 7652; Health and Welfare, 343 (S.); Community Development, 847 (S.).
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 11716.

SCHUTTE, Mr. D. P. A.—

  • Bills—
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4625; (C.) Votes—Justice and Prisons, 5519, 5554; Finance and Audit, 7034; Internal Affairs, 7825.
    • Alienation of Land (A.), (2R.) 4998.
    • Inquests (A.), (2R.) 5369.
    • Criminal Law (A.), (2R.) 5414.
    • Courts of Justice (A.), (2R.) 5433.
    • Animals Protection (A.), (2R.) 5439.
    • Computer Evidence, (2R.) 5782.
    • University of Natal (Private A.), (2R.) 8146.
    • Administration of Estates (A.), (2R.) 9854; (C.) 9863.
    • Sales Tax (A.), (2R.) 10395.
    • Prisons (A.), (2R.) 11098.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (Instruction) 11383; (C.) 11729.
    • Admiralty Jurisdiction Regulation, (2R.) 13095.

SCHWARZ, Mr. H. H. (Yeoville)—

  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 215.
    • Crude Oil Supplies for the RSA, 2641.
    • S.C. on conduct of Minister, 5632.
  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1165; (3R.) 1898.
    • S.A. Transport Services (A.), (C.) 1750-4.
    • S.A. Transport Services Finances and Accounts, (C.) 1760-86.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3633.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4243, 4377; (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5185; Foreign Affairs and Information, 6791; Finance and Audit, 6938, 7024; Defence 7467, 7495; Manpower, 7639; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8487; Police, 73 (S.); Industries, Commerce and Tourism, 466 (S.); Amendments, 8901; (3R.) 10438.
    • Land Bank (A.), (2R.) 4340.
    • Alienation of Land (A.), (C.) 5009-17; (3R.) 5020.
    • Property Time-sharing Control, (2R.) 5025, 5815; (C.) 6501-54.
    • Computer Evidence, (2R.) 5784.
    • Copyright (A.), (2R.) 6641-2; (C.) 6670-81; (3R.) 6682.
    • Patents (A.), (2R.) 6688.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (Instruction to S.C.) 9173; (Instruction) 11181; (C.) 12163, 12168, 12230, 12846.
    • Fund-Raising (A.), (2R.) 9191.
    • Administration of Estates (A.), (2R.) 9844.
    • Customs and Excise (A.), (2R.) 10037; (C.) 10059-65.
    • Revenue Laws (A.), (2R.) 10085, 10166, 10217; (C.) 10265.
    • Income Tax, (2R.) 10276, 10339.
    • Finance, (2R.) 10282; (C.) 10323-35.
    • Sales Tax (A.), (2R.) 10378; (C.) 10414-6; (3R.) 10417.

SCOTT, Mr. D. B. (Winburg)—

  • Bill—
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Defence, 7514; Education and Training, 205 (S.).

SIMKIN, Mr. C. H. W. (Smithfield)—

  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1177.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C.) 2777.
    • Land Bank (A.), (2R.) 4344.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4397; (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5175; Finance and Audit, 6950; Agriculture, 8112; Co-operation and Development, 8746; Industries, Commerce and Tourism, 473 (S.); (3R.) 10446.
    • Finance, (2R.) 10292; (C.) 10330-8.
    • Sales Tax (A.), (2R.) 10403.

SIVE, Maj. R., J.C.M. (Bezuidenhout)—

  • Bills—
    • Perishable Products Export Control, (2R.) 963; (C.) 1121-4; (3R.) 1129.
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1537.
    • Additional Post Office Appropriation, (2R.) 1561; (C.) 1594.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (3R.) 2988.
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R.) 3179; (3R.) 3382.
    • Post Office (A.), (2R.) 3407.
    • Culture Promotion, (2R.) 3415.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3671; (C.) 3999, 4053-60.
    • Agricultural Credit (A.), (2R.) 4323.
    • Land Bank (A.), (2R.) 4356.
    • Travel Agents and Travel Agencies, (2R.) 5859; (C.) 5883-5; (3R.) 5885.
    • Human Tissue, (2R.) 6404; (C.) 6439-42.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Defence, 7517; Commission for Administration, 7932; Health and Welfare, 305 (S.); Industries, Commerce and Tourism, 519 (S.); Community Development, 785 (S.).
    • S.A. Tourism Board, (2R.) 9698; (C.) 10779-88, 10801-12.
    • Laws on Co-operation and Development (A.), (C.) 11020, 11039.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (Instruction) 11310; (C.) 12842.
    • Referendum’s, (2R.) 13051, 13053; (C.) 13192-269.
  • Select Committee—
    • Report of S.C. on State-Owned Land, 13365.

SLABBERT, Dr. F. van Z. (Claremont)—

  • [Leader of the Opposition]
  • Motions—
    • Condolence (the late State President C. R. Swart), 13.
    • No Confidence, 16, 408.
    • Election of Speaker, 897.
  • Statements—
    • Referendum on Constitution, 4285.
    • Bomb explosion in Pretoria and air attack on ANC targets in Maputo, 7606.
    • Price of Fuel, 11102.
    • Date and Question for the Referendum on the Constitution Bill, 11950.
  • Bills—
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5067, 5159, Constitutional Development and Planning, 8336, 8536; (3R.) 10661.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7065; (C.) 11553, 11695, 11763, 11808, 12163, 12184, 12244, 12414, 12816, 12871; (3R.) 13367.

SNYMAN, Dr. W. J. (Pietersburg)—

  • Motions—
    • Development of Urban Blacks Outside Black States, 1333.
    • RSA’s role in Developing Southern Africa, 2411.
  • Bills—
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (A.), (2R.) 588; (C.) 3118.
    • Pharmacy (A.), (2R.) 2178.
    • Health (A.), (2R.) 2200.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C.) 2769.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3656; (C.) 3902; (3R.) 4135.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4541; (C.) Votes—Defence, 7476; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8382; Co-operation and Development, 8728; Health and Welfare, 263 (S.).
    • Promotion of Local Government Affairs, (2R.) 8311; (C.) 10092-106, 10122, 10159; (3R.) 10186.
    • Universities (A.), (C.) 9367; (3R.) 9550.
    • Advanced Technical Education (A.), (3R.) 9760.
    • Coloured Persons Education (A.), (2R.) 9824.
    • Provincial Affairs, (2R.) 10032.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 11574, 11635-56, 11713-32, 11832, 11968, 12250-65, 12334, 12405, 12406, 12626, 12750.
    • Referendum’s, (C.) 13282; (3R.) 13311.
  • Select Committee—
    • First Report of S.C. on Pensions, 9735-6.

SOAL, Mr. P. G. (Johannesburg North)—

  • Bills—
    • Machinery and Occupational Safety, (2R.) 555.
    • Additional Post Office Appropriation, (2R.) 1579; (3R.) 1596.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C.) 2794.
    • Post Office Appropriation, (C.) 3306.
    • Liquor (A.), (2R.) 5960.
    • Housing (A.), (2R.) 6319.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Co-operation and Development, 8718.
    • S.A. Tourism Board, (2R.) 9729; (C.) 10803-16.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 12709-13.
    • Referendum’s, (2R.) 13007, 13012; (C.) 13189, 13264-87.

STEYN, the Hon. D. W. (Wonderboom)—

  • [Minister of Education and Training]
  • Bills—
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2045-8.
    • Technikons (Education and Training) (A.), (2R.) 4919, 4928.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Education and Training, 147 (S.), 187 (S.), 239 (S.).

STREICHER, Mr. D. M. (De Kuilen)—

  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 83.
    • Uprooting of Black Communities, 865.
  • Bills—
    • Transport Services Additional Appropriation, (2R.) 1082.
    • Conditions of Employment (S.A. Transport Services), (2R.) 1141; (C.) 1729.
    • S.A. Transport Services Finances and Accounts, (3R.) 2090.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2432; (C.) 2703.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5214; Internal Affairs, 7889; Co-operation and Development, 8843; Community Development, 870 (S.); (3R.) 10487.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7322; (C.) 11782.
    • Sectional Titles (A.), (2R.) 8274.
    • Transport Services Unauthorized Expenditure, (2R.) 9023.
    • Coloured Persons Education (A.), (2R.) 9821.

SUZMAN, Mrs. H. (Houghton)—

  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 332.
    • Uprooting of Black Communities, 848.
    • Development of Urban Blacks Outside Black States, 1318.
    • Manpower Training, 2857.
  • Bills—
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2009, 2017.
    • Transport Services Appropriation (3R.) 2978.
    • Police (A.), (3R.) 3027.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4792; (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5323; Justice and Prisons, 5543; Foreign Affairs and Information, 6817; Co-operation and Development, 8639, 8683, 8871; Police, 28 (S.); Health and Welfare, 286 (S.), 358 (S.); (3R.) 10617.
    • Criminal Law (A.), (2R.) 5406.
    • Child Care, (2R.) 6604.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7260; (Instruction) 11338; (3R.) 13416.
    • Laws on Co-operation and Development (A.), (2R.) 10822; (C.) 10969, 10998.
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (2A.), (2R.) 13328.
  • Select Committee—
    • First Report of S.C. on Co-operation and Development, 10725.

SWANEPOEL, Mr. K. D. (Gezina)—

  • Bills—
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C.) 2720, 2765.
    • Culture Promotion, (3R.) 4090.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4520; (C.) Votes—Commission for Administration, 7944; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8534; Education and Training, 160 (S.); Community Development, 822 (S.).
    • Universities (A.), (2R.) 9154.
    • Advanced Technical Education (A.), (2R.) 9456; (C.) 9637-48; (3R.) 9757.
    • Customs and Excise (A.), (2R.) 10045.
    • Income Tax, (2R.) 10363.

SWART, Mr. R. A. F. (Berea)—

  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 188.
    • Uprooting of Black Communities, 830.
  • Bills—
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (A.), (2R.) 580; (C.) 3103.
    • Compulsory Motor Vehicle Insurance (A.), (2R.) 741.
    • Road Transportation (A.), (2R.) 753; (C.) 1007-60; (3R.) 1112.
    • National Roads (A.), (2R.) 951.
    • Marine Traffic (A.), (2R.) 982.
    • Transport Services Additional Appropriation, (2R.) 1078; (C.) 1092.
    • Conditions of Employment (S.A. Transport Services), (2R.) 1620.
    • S.A. Transport Services (A.), (2R.) 1653.
    • S.A. Transport Services Finances and Accounts, (2R.) 1669.
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2011-7.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2086, 2425; (C.) 2698; (3R.) 2963.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3708; (C.) 3922, 4009, 4085.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4564; (C.) Votes—Transport, 6155; Co-operation and Development, 8797, 8859.
    • National Roads (2A.), (2R.) 6221; (C.) 9003.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7167; (C.) 11780, 11838, 12258, 12392, 12549-80; (3R.) 13493.
    • Transport Services Unauthorized Expenditure, (2R.) 9022.
    • Universities (A.), (2R.) 9169, 9198.
    • Promotion of Local Government Affairs, (2R.) 9870; (C.) 10114-9, 10148.

TARR, Mr. M. A. (Pietermaritzburg South)—

  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1432.
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (A.), (2R.) 2241.
    • Post Office Appropriation, (C.) 3338.
    • Environment Conservation (A.), (2R.) 3484; (3R.) 4870.
    • Agricultural Pests, (2R.) 3889.
    • Plant Breeders’ Rights (A.), (2R.) 4304.
    • Plant Improvement (A.), (2R.) 4314.
    • Conservation of Agricultural Resources, (2R.) 4835; (C.) 4846.
    • Wine and Spirit Control (A.), (2R.) 4858.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—National Education, 6100; Internal Affairs, 7901; Agriculture, 8023; Education and Training, 221 (S.); (3R.) 10656.
    • University of Natal (Private A.), (2R.) 8143, 8148.
    • Universities (A.), (2R.) 9264, 9265.
    • Laws on Co-operation and Development (A.), (C.) 11013.
    • Referendum’s, (C.) 13184.

TEMPEL, Mr. H. J. (Ermelo)—

  • Motion—
    • S.C. on conduct of Minister, 5651.
  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1491.
    • Public Accountants and Auditors (A.), (2R.) 1690.
    • Land Bank (A.), (2R.) 4359.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4449; (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5082; Finance and Audit, 6968; Defence, 7588; Environment Affairs, 555 (S.).
    • Environment Conservation (A.), (3R.) 4833.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution (Introduction) 6373; (Instruction) 11305; (C.) 11590-3, 12890.
    • National Roads (2A.), (2R.) 6480; (C.) 9006.
    • Rand Water Board Statutes (Private A.), (2R.) 10074.

TERBLANCHE, Mr. A. J. W. P. S. (Heilbron)—

  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1519.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C.) 2802.
    • Agricultural Credit (A.), (2R.) 4328; (3R.) 4808.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Mineral and Energy Affairs, 5749; Agriculture, 8020; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8425; Co-operation and Development, 8748.
    • University of Durban-Westville, (C.) 9082.

TERBLANCHE, Mr. G. P. D. (Bloemfontein North)—

  • Motion—
    • Constitutional Ordering of the Republic, 778.
  • Bills—
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2570.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3693.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4747; (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5182; Foreign Affairs and Information, 6762; Finance and Audit, 7007; Defence, 7491, 7493; Co-operation and Development, 8679, 8817; (3R.) 10497.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 11738.

THEUNISSEN, Mr. L. M.—

  • Motion—
    • Fatal Shooting by S.A. Police, 2589.
  • Bills—
    • Machinery and Occupational Safety, (2R.) 562; (3R.) 992.
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1395.
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2036.
    • Police (A.), (2R.) 2069; (3R.) 3038.
    • Explosives (A.), (2R.) 2146.
    • National Parks (A.), (2R.) 3008; (C.) 3069.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3723.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Justice and Prisons, 5469, 5516; Defence, 7503; Agriculture, 8033; Police, 16 (S.), 66 (S.), 103 (S.); Environment Affairs, 609 (S.); (3R.) 10612.
    • Computer Evidence, (2R.) 5780.
    • Disposal of Common Pasturage Areas, (2R.) 8910.
    • Administration of Estates (A.), (2R.) 9851.
    • Insolvency (A.), (2R.) 11071.
    • Attorneys (2A.), (2R.) 11089.
    • Prisons (A.), (2R.) 11099, 11162.
    • Admiralty Jurisdiction Regulation, (2R.) 11180.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 11803-4, 11964, 12000, 12533-47.

THOMPSON, Mr. A. G. (South Coast)—

  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1410.
    • Arms and Ammunition (A.), (2R.) 2162.
    • Pharmacy (A.), (2R.) 2186.
    • Health (A.), (2R.) 2204.
    • Post Office Appropriation, (C.) 3317.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4732; (C.) Votes—Agriculture, 8107; Health and Welfare, 269 (S.), 333 (S.).
    • Alienation of Land (A.), (C.) 5016.
    • Human Tissue, (2R.) 6397; (C.) 6439-46.
    • Child Care, (2R.) 6600; (C.) 8196-9; (3R.) 8579.
    • Pension Laws (A.), (2R.) 10423.
    • Pensions (Supplementary), (2R.) 10427.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 11659, 11698.

TREURNICHT, Dr. the Hon. A. P., D.M.S. (Waterberg)—

  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 51.
    • Election of Speaker, 898.
    • Promotion of Sound Relations among Peoples, 1253.
  • Statements—
    • Bomb explosion in Pretoria and air attack on ANC targets in Maputo, 7607.
    • Price of Fuel, 11130.
    • Date and Question for the Referendum on the Constitution Bill, 11951.
  • Bills—
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7086; (C.) 12191, 12308-20; (3R.) 13544.
    • Appropriation, (3R.) 10530.

UNGERER, Mr. J. H. B. (Sasolburg)—

  • Bills—
    • Labour Relations (A.), (2R.) 468; (3R.) 618.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3663, 3670; (C.) 3926.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Manpower, 7630.

UYS, Mr. C. (Barberton)—

  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 231.
    • Uprooting of Black Communities, 869.
  • Bills—
    • Road Transportation (A.), (2R.) 921.
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1444.
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2014.
    • Arms and Ammunition (A.), (2R.) 2157.
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (A.), (2R.) 2228; (C.) 3109, 3120.
    • Agricultural Credit (A.), (2R.) 4332.
    • Land Bank (A.), (2R.) 4347.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4586; (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5217, 5337; Agriculture, 7995; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8472; Co-operation and Development, 8805; Environment Affairs, 665 (S.).
    • Alienation of Land (A.), (2R.) 4997.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7210; (Instruction) 11433; (C.) 11856, 11991, 12145, 12175, 12289, 12430, 12478, 12740, 12900-4.
    • Laws on Co-operation and Development (A.), (C.) 10972, 11009, 11017; (3R.) 11144.
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (2A.), (2R.) 13333.
  • Select Committees—
    • First Report of S.C. on Co-operation and Development, 10725.
    • Third Report of S.C. on Co-operation and Development, 13357.

VAN BREDA, Mr. A. (Tygervallei)—

  • Motions—
    • Election of Speaker, 893.
    • Sittings of the House, 12107.
  • Bills—
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Internal Affairs, 7761; Co-operation and Development, 8867; Community Development, 762 (S.).
    • Promotion of Local Government Affairs, (2R.) 9963.
    • Referendum’s, (2R) 12980; (C.) 13227-42.

VAN DEN BERG, Mr. J. C. (Ladybrand)—

  • Bills—
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3728.
    • Dairy Industry (A.), (2R.) 4279.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Defence, 7508.

VAN DER LINDE, Mr. G. J. (Port Elizabeth North)—

  • Bills—
    • Machinery and Occupational Safety, (2R.) 557; (3R.) 995.
    • Advocate-General (A.), (2R.) 5447.
    • Attorneys (A.), (2R.) 5452.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Justice and Prisons, 5549; Manpower, 7671; Health and Welfare, 337 (S.), 360 (S.); Community Development, 832 (S.).
    • Computer Evidence, (2R.) 5778.
    • Community Development (A.), (2R.) 6340.
    • Administration of Estates (A.), (2R.) 9857.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 12720.

VAN DER MERWE, Dr. C. J. (Helderkruin)—

  • Motion—
    • Promotion of Sound Relations among Peoples, 1287.
  • Bills—
    • Arms and Ammunition (A.), (2R.) 2164.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3715; (C.) 3961, 4003, 4060; (3R.) 4132.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5085; Defence, 7552; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8422.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7335; (Instruction) 11442; (C.) 11546, 11576, 11611, 11659-84, 11756-8, 11800, 12020-31, 12092, 12126, 12147, 12177, 12402, 12480. 12541, 12642, 12733, 12820-45.
    • University of Durban-Westville, (C.) 9081.
    • Universities (A.), (2R.) 9163.
    • Promotion of Local Government Affairs, (2R.) 9877; (3R.) 10195.

VAN DER MERWE, Dr. the Hon. C. V. (Bethlehem)—

  • [Minister of Health and Welfare]
  • Motion—
    • No Confidence, 236.
  • Bills—
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2037-42.
    • Pharmacy (A.), (2R.) 2170, 2186.
    • Health (A.), (2R.) 2191, 2206.
    • Human Tissue, (2R.) 6349, 6425; (C.) 6434-47; (3R.) 6559.
    • Child Care, (2R.) 6559, 6625; (C.) 8152-230; (3R.) 8584.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7186.
    • Fund-Raising (A.), (2R.) 9174, 9195.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Health and Welfare, 247 (S.), 290 (S.), 319 (S.), 385 (S.).
  • Select Committee—
    • First Report of S.C. on Pensions, 9734-6.

VAN DER MERWE, Mr. G. J. (Springs)—

  • Motion—
    • Manpower Training, 2869.
  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (3R.) 1955.
    • Post Office Appropriation, (C.) 3311.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5236.
    • Revenue Laws (A.), (2R.) 10223.

VAN DER MERWE, Mr. H. D. K. (Rissik)—

  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 307.
    • Repeal of Prohibition of Political Interference Act, 2332.
    • Crude Oil Supplies for the RSA, 2655.
    • S.C. on conduct of Minister, 5601.
    • Sittings of the House, 11932.
  • Bills—
    • Basic Conditions of Employment, (3R.) 716.
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2027-32.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C.) 2760.
    • Culture Promotion, (C.) 3806-54; (3R.) 4092, 4152.
    • Electoral (A.), (2R.) 4371.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4752; (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5170; Foreign Affairs and Information, 6776, 6905; Internal Affairs, 7758, 7848; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8348; Co-operation and Development, 8852; Education and Training, 227 (S.).
    • Bethelsdorp Settlement (A.), (2R.) 4939; (3R.) 4941.
    • Paarl Mountain (A.), (2R.) 4956.
    • Advocate-General (A.), (2R.) 5448.
    • Child Care, (2R.) 6581.
    • Copyright (A.), (2R.) 6655; (3R.) 6684.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7328; (Instruction) 11204; (C.) 11569-80, 11622-7, 11671, 11718-31, 11772-84, 11996, 12294, 12356, 12581-608, 12634-765, 12800-10; (3R.) 13573.
    • Sectional Titles (A.), (3R.) 8937.
    • University of the Western Cape, (C.) 8986-90.
    • University of Durban-Westville, (C.) 9064-75.
    • Universities (A.), (2R.) 9247; (C.) 9338, 9370-89, 9411; (3R.) 9569.
    • Advanced Technical Education (A.), (2R.) 9500; (C.) 9634.
    • Universities and Technikons Advisory Council, (2R.) 9673; (C.) 9781-91; (3R.) 10747.
    • Laws on Co-operation and Development (A.), (2R.) 10840; (C.) 10980, 11043; (3R.) 11125.
    • Referendum’s, (2R) 13021; (C.) 13162-77.

VAN DER MERWE, Mr. J. H. (Jeppe)—

  • Motion—
    • No Confidence, 264.
  • Bills—
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3577; (C.) 3905-28, 4053, 4075, 4086-7; (3R.) 4113.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7141; (Instruction) 11462, 11469; (C.) 11542-95, 11661-706, 11725-53, 11842, 11967, 12022, 12205, 12329-82, 12442, 12539-68, 12633, 12752, 12777, 12834.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Defence, 7442, 7503, 7603; Internal Affairs, 7782; Community Development, 794 (S.).
    • Referendum’s, (2R.) 13057.
    • Admiralty Jurisdiction Regulation, (2R.) 13102.
    • Occupational Diseases in Mines and Works (A.) (3R.) 13114.

VAN DER MERWE, Mr. S. S. (Green Point)—

  • Motion—
    • Repeal of Prohibition of Political Interference Act, 2351.
  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (3R.) 1951.
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2028-31.
    • Defence (A.), (C.) 4040.
    • Electoral (A.), (2R.) 4366.
    • Rural Coloured Areas (A.), (2R.) 4891.
    • Coloured Farmers Assistance (A.), (2R.) 4905.
    • Housing (A.), (2R.) 6307.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Internal Affairs, 7749, 7856, 7929; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8371; Health and Welfare, 340 (S.); Community Development, 883 (S.).
    • Indecent or Obscene Photographic Matter (A.), (2R.) 8233.
    • University of the Western Cape, (2R.) 8953; (C.) 8985-91.
    • Coloured Persons Education (A.), (2R.) 9816, 9817; (C.) 9840.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 12581.
    • Referendum’s, (2R.) 12970; (C.) 13125-43, 13195, 13283; (3R.) 13288.

VAN DER MERWE, Mr. W. L. (Meyerton)—

  • Motion—
    • Constitutional Ordering of the Republic, 813, 817.
  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (3R.) 1941.
    • National Parks (A.), (3R.) 3078.
    • Agricultural Pests, (2R.) 3893.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Agriculture, 8091; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8494; Environment Affairs, 559 (S.); (3R.) 10582.
    • Property Time-Sharing Control, (3R.) 8615.
    • Rand Water Board Statutes (Private A.), (2R.) 10072.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 11709.
    • Referendum’s, (2R.) 12987; (C.) 13169, 13238, 13270.

VAN DER WALT, Mr. A. T. (Bellville)—

  • Motion―
    • Housing Strategy, 2904.
  • Bills—
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2518.
    • Housing (A.), (2R.) 6297.
    • Sectional Titles (A.), (2R.) 8257; (C.) 8598-606.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Co-operation and Development, 8702; Community Development, 742 (S.).
    • University of the Western Cape, (C.) 8992.

VAN DER WALT, the Hon. H. J. D.—

  • [Deputy Minister of Development and of Land Affairs]
  • Motion—
    • Uprooting of Black Communities, 881.
  • Bills—
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (A.), (2R.) 578, 2247; (C.) 3107-19; (3R.) 3255.
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1226.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4701; (C.) Votes—Co-operation and Development, 8732, 8823; Community Development, 802 (S.).
    • Bethelsdorp Settlement (A.), (2R.) 4931, 4940.
    • Paarl Mountain (A.), (2R.) 4942, 4961.
    • Disposal of Common Pasturage Areas, (2R.) 8902, 8920; (C.) 8925-8.
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (2A.), (2R.) 13326, 13346; (C.) 13350.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (3R.) 13477.
  • Select Committee—
    • Third Report of S.C. on Co-operation and Development, 13363.

VAN DER WATT, Dr. L. (Bloemfontein East)—

  • Bills—
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2472.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Justice and Prisons, 5513; Co-operation and Development, 8739.
    • Insolvency (A.), (2R.) 11071.
    • Attorneys (2A.), (2R.) 11091.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (Instruction) 11456.

VAN EEDEN, Mr. D. S. (Germiston)—

  • Bill—
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Police, 127 (S.).

VAN HEERDEN, Mr. R. F. (De Aar)—

  • Bills—
    • Compulsory Motor Vehicle Insurance (A.), (2R.), 743.
    • Transport Services Additional Appropriation, (2R.) 1084.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2440; (C.) 2791; (3R.) 2969.
    • Plant Breeders’ Rights (A.), (2R.) 4307.
    • Plant Improvement (A.), (2R.) 4316.
    • Conservation of Agricultural Resources, (2R.) 4821, 4822.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—National Education, 6056; Transport, 6162; Defence, 7549; Agriculture, 8014; Environment Affairs, 656 (S.).
    • Transport Services Unauthorized Expenditure, (2R.) 9026.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 12241.

VAN NIEKERK, Dr. A. I. (Prieska)—

  • Bills—
    • Conservation of Agricultural Resources, (2R.) 4816; (C.) 4849.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5244; Agriculture, 8040.
    • Disposal of Common Pasturage Areas, (2R.) 8904; (C.) 8927.

VAN RENSBURG, Mr. H. E. J. (Bryanston)—

  • Motion—
    • No Confidence, 91.
  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1375.
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2051.
    • Culture Promotion, (2R.) 2268; (C.) 3804, 3829, 3842.
    • Education and Culture Laws (A.), (2R.) 3437.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4695; (C.) Votes—National Education, 6005; Health and Welfare, 279 (S.); (3R.) 10482.
    • Universities (A.), (2R.) 9035; (C.) 9324, 9355-69, 9407, 9434; (3R.) 9539.
    • Advanced Technical Education (A.), (2R.) 9316, 9434; (C.) 9621-38; (3R.) 9737.
    • Universities and Technikons Advisory Council, (2R.) 9614; (C.) 9779-90.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 12137-59, 12792-813; (3R.) 13449.
    • Rand Afrikaans University (Private A.), (2R.) 13122.

VAN RENSBURG, Dr. H. M. J. (Mossel Bay)—

  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 367.
    • Constitutional Ordering of the Republic, 809.
    • Election of Speaker, 895.
    • Promotion of Sound Relations among Peoples, 1270.
    • S.C. on conduct of Minister, 5620.
    • Sittings of the House, 11916.
  • Bills—
    • S.A. Transport Services (A.), (2R.) 1654.
    • S.A. Transport Services Finances and Accounts, (2R.) 1673.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (3R.) 2972.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4547; (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5299; Justice and Prisons, 5464, 5540; Internal Affairs, 7860; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8469.
    • Inquests (A.), (2R.) 5369.
    • Criminal Law (A.), (2R.) 5387; (C.) 5796; (3R.) 5891.
    • Advocate-General (A.), (2R.) 5446.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7149; (Instruction) 11267; (C.) 11571, 12431, 12471, 12524, 12571, 12727; (3R.) 13498.
    • Child Care, (C.) 8175-8, 8214-6.

VAN RENSBURG, Mr. H. M. J. (Rosettenville)—

  • Motion—
    • Transport Services of the RSA, 1810.
  • Bills—
    • Conditions of Employment (S.A. Transport Services), (2R.) 1613; (3R.) 1975.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2557; (C.) 2828.
    • Post Office Appropriation, (C.) 3327.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4768; (C.) Votes—Mineral and Energy Affairs, 5728; Internal Affairs, 7785; Community Development, 854 (S.).
    • Mining Rights (A.), (2R.) 4967.
    • Sectional Titles (A.), (3R.) 8938.
    • Advanced Technical Education (A.), (2R.) 9522.
    • Universities and Technikons Advisory Council, (2R.) 9652; (3R.) 10752.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 11624, 11711.

VAN STADEN, Dr. F. A. H. (Koedoespoort)—

  • Motion—
    • Transport Services of the RSA, 1804.
  • Bills—
    • National Roads (A.), (2R.) 942; (C.) 1068.
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1242.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C.) 2723, 2780.
    • Culture Promotion, (2R.) 3132, 3268.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3685.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4684; (C.) Votes—National Education, 6023, 6128; Defence, 7523; Commission for Administration, 7947; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8408; Cooperation and Development, 8833; Education and Training, 214 (S.); Health and Welfare, 355 (S.).
    • National Roads (2A.), (2R.) 6232, 6447.
    • Human Tissue, (2R.) 6390; (C.) 6440-2.
    • University of Port Elizabeth (Private A.), (2R.) 7726.
    • Rhodes University (Private A.), (2R.) 7733.
    • University of Cape Town (Private A.), (2R.) 7744.
    • University of Natal (Private A.), (2R.) 8147.
    • Child Care, (C.) 8164-95; (3R.) 8575.
    • Indecent or Obscene Photographic Matter (A.), (2R.) 8234.
    • University of the Western Cape, (2R.) 8959; (C.) 8984.
    • University of Durban-Westville, (2R.) 8978.
    • Universities (A.), (2R.) 9057, 9084; (C.) 9330.
    • Fund-Raising (A.), (2R.) 9184.
    • Advanced Technical Education (A.), (2R.) 9446; (C.) 9626-49.
    • Universities and Technikons Advisory Council, (2R.) 9649.
    • Pension Laws (A.), (2R.) 10423.
    • Pensions (Supplementary), (2R.) 10427.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (Instruction) 11246; (C.) 11576, 11599, 11653-77, 12126, 12159-63, 12435, 12683-711.

VAN STADEN, Mr. J. W.—

  • Bills—
    • Machinery and Occupational Safety, (2R.) 539; (3R.) 991.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3732; (3R.) 4138.
    • Rural Coloured Areas (A.), (2R.) 4893.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5197; Manpower, 7646; Internal Affairs, 7846; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8357.

VAN VUUREN, Mr. L. M. J. (Hercules)—

  • Bills—
    • Basic Conditions of Employment, (2R.) 517; (3R.) 714.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C.) 2816.
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R.) 3195.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Finance and Audit, 7031; Manpower, 7703; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8411; Health and Welfare, 346 (S.), 359 (S.); Community Development, 829 (S.).

VAN WYK, Mr. J. A. (Gordonia)—

  • Bills—
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (C.) 2797.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4680; (C.) Votes—Agriculture, 8088; Environment Affairs, 618 (S.).
    • Coloured Farmers Assistance (A.), (2R.) 4914.

VAN ZYL, Mr. J. G. (Brentwood)—

  • Bills—
    • Education and Culture Laws (A.), (2R.) 3444.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3702.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—National Education, 6071; Foreign Affairs and Information, 6909.
    • Community Development (A.), (2R.) 6345.
    • Universities (A.), (2R.) 9240; (3R.) 9563.
    • Advanced Technical Education (A.), (2R.) 9491; (C.) 9629.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 12160.

VAN ZYL, Mr. J. J. B. (Sunnyside)—

  • Motion—
    • Control of Inflation, 1866.
  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1188; (3R.) 1912.
    • Additional Post Office Appropriation, (2R.) 1568.
    • S.A. Transport Services Finances and Accounts, (2R.) 1675; (C.) 1782, 1785; (3R.) 2091.
    • Public Accountants and Auditors (A.), (2R.) 1691.
    • Additional Appropriation, (2R.) 1994; (C.) 2005, 2020-7.
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R.) 3190; (C.) 3331.
    • Scientific Research Council (A.), (2R.) 3509.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4406; (C.) Votes—Finance and Audit, 6956; Industries, Commerce and Tourism, 417 (S.), 530 (S.); Amendments, 8901; (3R.) 10452.
    • S.A. Tourism Board, (2R.) 9711; (C.) 10779-819; (3R.) 10820.
    • Customs and Excise (A.), (2R.) 10047.
    • Revenue Laws (A.), (2R.) 10228.
    • Finance, (2R.) 10295.
    • Income Tax, (2R.) 10347.
    • Sales Tax (A.), (2R.) 10393; (C.) 10415.
    • Laws on Co-operation and Development (A.), (C.) 11038.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 11560-81, 11732.
    • Referendum’s, (C.) 13261.

VELDMAN, Dr. M. H. (Rustenburg)—

  • Bills—
    • Pharmacy (A.), (2R.) 2175.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5119; Manpower, 7708; Health and Welfare, 276 (S.); Community Development, 819 (S.); (3R.) 10507.
    • Child Care, (C.) 8152-6, 8212-26.
    • Fund-Raising (A.), (2R.) 9186.
    • Universities (A.), (2R.) 9259; (3R.) 9546.
    • Pensions (Supplementary), (2R.) 10427.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 12247.

VENTER, the Hon. A. A. (Klerksdorp)—

  • [Deputy Minister of Industries, Commerce and Tourism]
  • Bills—
    • Alienation of Land (A.), (2R.) 4978, 5001; (C.) 5003-19; (3R.) 5019-20.
    • Property Time-sharing Control, (2R.) 5020, 5844; (C.) 6505-56; (3R.) 8621.
    • Travel Agents and Travel Agencies, (2R.) 5852, 5881; (C.) 5883-4; (3R.) 5886.
    • Copyright (A.), (2R.) 6637, 6666; (C.) 6675-82; (3R.) 6686.
    • Patents (A.), (2R.) 6687, 6694; (C.) 6695.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Industries, Commerce and Tourism, 477 (S.), 505 (S.).

VERMEULEN, Mr. J. A. J.—

  • Bills—
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R.) 3198.
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3586; (C.) 4081.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Defence, 7460.
    • Referendum’s, (2R.) 13030.

VILJOEN, Dr. the Hon. G. van N. (Vanderbiljpark)—

  • [Minister of National Education]
  • Bills—
    • Additional Appropriation, (C.) 2051.
    • Culture Promotion, (2R.) 2264, 3422; (C.) 3813-46; (3R.) 4171.
    • Education and Culture Laws (A.), (2R.) 3435, 3444.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—National Education, 6035, 6085, 6137.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7132; (C.) 12188, 12253, 12377, 12409; (3R.) 13376.
    • University of Port Elizabeth (Private A.), (2R.) 7727.
    • Rhodes University (Private A.), (2R.) 7735.
    • University of Cape Town (Private A.), (2R.) 7747.
    • Universities (A.), (2R.) 9028, 9270; (C.) 9341-99, 9417-34; (3R.) 9583.
    • Advanced Technical Education (A.), (2R.) 9311, 9598; (C.) 9631-48; (3R.) 9771.
    • Universities and Technikons Advisory Council, (2R.) 9610, 9682; (C.) 9782-7; (3R.) 10768.

VILONEL, Dr. J. J.—

  • Bills—
    • Appropriation, (3R.) 10588.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 11631-3, 11699.

VISAGIE, Mr. J. H. (Nigel)—

  • Bills—
    • Manpower Training (A.), (2R.) 443.
    • Marine Traffic (A.), (2R.) 984.
    • S.A. Transport Services (A.), (2R.) 1655; (C.) 1750.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2478; (C.) 2801.
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R.) 3150; (C.) 3315; (3R.) 3370, 3371.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Agriculture, 8115; Health and Welfare, 330 (S.).
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (C.) 11795.

VLOK, Mr. A. J. (Verwoerdburg)—

  • [Deputy Speaker and Chairman of Committees]
  • Bills—
    • Arms and Ammunition (A.), (2R.) 2153.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Justice and Prisons, 5495; Defence, 7473; Police, 19 (S.).

VOLKER, Mr. V. A. (Klip River)—

  • [Deputy Chairman of Committees]
  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 259.
    • Constitutional Ordering of the Republic, 794.
    • Uprooting of Black Communities, 857.
  • Bills—
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4736; (C.) Votes—Foreign Affairs and Information, 6772; Internal Affairs, 7832; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8345, 8483; Co-operation and Development, 8676.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7120; (3R.) 13488.
    • University of Durban-Westville, (2R.) 8974.
    • Laws on Co-operation and Development (A.), (2R.) 10851.
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (2A.), (2R.) 13335.

WATTERSON, Mr. D. W. (Umbilo)—

  • Motions—
    • No Confidence, 246.
    • Constitutional Ordering of the Republic, 806.
    • Control of Inflation, 1875.
    • Housing Strategy, 2925.
  • Bills—
    • Defence (A.), (2R.) 3698; (C.) 3953.
    • Appropriation, (2R.) 4609; (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5233; Internal Affairs, 7765, 7799, 7842; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8402; Community Development, 755 (S.), 872 (S.); (3R.) 10551.
    • Rural Coloured Areas (A.), (2R.) 4899.
    • Coloured Farmers Assistance (A.), (2R.) 4915.
    • Housing (A.), (2R.) 6302.
    • Community Development (A.), (2R.) 6347.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7222; (Instruction) 11319, 11322; (C.) 11532, 12903; (3R.) 13485.
    • Indecent or Obscene Photographic Mater (A.), (2R.) 8236.
    • Professional Engineers (A.), (2R.) 8244.
    • Sectional Titles (A.), (2R.) 8271; (3R.) 8943.
    • Promotion of Local Government Affairs, (2R.) 8325; (C.) 10086-98, 10118-56; (3R.) 10198.
    • University of the Western Cape, (2R.) 8965.
    • University of Durban-Westville, (2R.) 8995.
    • Universities (A.), (2R.) 9158.
    • Coloured Persons Education (A.), (2R.) 9833; (C.) 9841.
    • Physical Planning (A.), (2R.) 10025.
    • Provincial Affairs, (2R.) 10033.
    • Referendum’s, (2R.) 13035; (C.) 13230.

WEEBER, Mr. A. (Welkom)—

  • Bills—
    • Road Transportation (A.), (2R.) 773; (C.) 1028, 1042.
    • Conditions of Employment (S.A. Transport Services), (2R.) 1636, 1638.
    • Post Office Appropriation, (C.) 3347.
    • Coal, (2R.) 3524.
    • Mining Rights (A.), (2R.) 4972.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5259; Mineral and Energy Affairs, 5678; Transport, 6176; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8512; Health and Welfare, 266 (S.).
    • Promotion of Local Government Affairs, (2R.) 8320; (3R.) 10180.
    • Physical Planning (A.), (2R.) 10019.
    • Rand Water Board Statutes (Private A.), (2R.) 10069.

WELGEMOED, Dr. P. J.—

  • Motion—
    • Transport Services of the RSA, 1818.
  • Bills—
    • Road Transportation (A.), (2R.) 761; (C.) 1011-57; (3R.) 1112.
    • Transport Services Appropriation, (2R.) 2529.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—National Education, 6062; Transport, 6193; Constitutional Development and Planning, 8523; Industries, Commerce and Tourism, 513 (S.).
    • Universities (A.), (2R.) 9086.
    • Universities and Technikons Advisory Council, (2R.) 9669; (3R.) 10743.
    • Finance, (2R.) 10296.
    • Rand Afrikaans University (Private A.), (2R.) 13122.

WENTZEL, the Hon. J. J. G. (Bethal)—

  • [Minister of Agriculture]
  • Bills—
    • Additional Appropriation, (2R.) 1996.
    • Agricultural Pests, (2R.) 3887, 4269.
    • Dairy Industry (A.), (2R.) 4274, 4295; (C.) 4300-2.
    • Plant Breeders’ Rights (A.), (2R.) 4303, 4310.
    • Plant Improvement (A.), (2R.) 4312, 4320.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Agriculture, 7970, 8056, 8127.
    • Finance, (C.) 10328.

WESSELS, Mr. L. (Krugersdorp)—

  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1437.
    • Police (A.), (2R.) 2066; (3R.) 3034.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Prime Minister, 5108; Foreign Affairs and Information, 6779; Police, 10 (S.).
    • Liquor (A.), (3R.) 6249.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (Instruction) 11211; (C.) 12876.

WIDMAN, Mr. A. B. (Hillbrow)—

  • Motions—
    • S.C. on conduct of Minister, 5657.
    • Sittings of the House, 11864, 12098.
  • Bills—
    • Post Office Appropriation, (2R.) 3060, 3136; (3R.) 3361.
    • Post Office (A.), (2R.) 3399.
    • Defence (A.), (C.) 3988, 4055.
    • Paarl Mountain (A.), (2R.) 4959.
    • Alienation of Land (A.), (2R.) 4983; (C.) 5004-19.
    • Criminal Law (A.), (C.) 5800, 5807.
    • Property Time-Sharing Control, (2R.) 5836; (C.) 6514-32, 6546-56; (3R.) 8607.
    • Housing (A.), (2R.) 6288; (3R.) 6332.
    • Human Tissue, (2R.) 6418; (C.) 6433-6, 6446.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Finance and Audit, 7010; Defence, 7593; Police, 92 (S.); Health and Welfare, 310 (S.); Community Development, 863 (S.).
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7195; (Instruction) 11416; (C.) 12474, 12602, 12620-33, 12711, 12879-908.
    • Child Care, (C.) 8153-226; (3R.) 8564.
    • Professional Engineers (A.), (2R.) 8239.
    • Sectional Titles (A.), (2R.) 8276; (C.) 8591-606; (3R.) 8928.
    • Fund-raising (A.), (2R.) 9176.
    • Promotion of Local Government Affairs, (2R.) 9916; (C.) 10108-148; (3R.) 10169.
    • Attorneys (2A.) (C.) 11159.

WILEY, the Hon. J. W. E. (Simon’s Town)—

  • [Deputy Minister of Environment Affairs and Fisheries]
  • Bills—
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1462; (3R.) 1906.
    • Environment Conservation (A.), (2R.) 3863; (C.) 4266; (3R.) 4887.
    • Sea Fisheries (A.), (2R.) 3868, 3883.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Defence, 7463; Environment Affairs, 680 (S.), 714 (S.); (3R.) 10630.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (3R.) 13465.

WILKENS, Mr. B. H. (Ventersdorp)—

  • Bills—
    • Borders of Particular States Extension (A.), (2R.) 584.
    • Part Appropriation, (2R.) 1503.
    • Defence (A.), (C.) 3975.
    • Land Bank (A.), (2R.) 4352.
    • Republic of South Africa Constitution, (2R.) 7340; (C.) 12359.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Agriculture, 7987; Co-operation and Development, 8668.
    • Laws on Co-operation and Development (A.), (2R.) 10865.

WRIGHT, Mr. A. P. (Losberg)—

  • Bills—
    • Arms and Ammunition (A.), (2R.) 2157.
    • Disposal of Common Pasturage Areas, (2R.) 8917.
    • Appropriation, (C.) Votes—Police, 69 (S.); Community Development, 850 (S.).

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